:00:00. > :00:00.Yet another extraordinary day in British politics.
:00:00. > :00:09.The Labour Party divided, relying on lawyers to help determine
:00:10. > :00:20.whether the leader can stand in a leadership election.
:00:21. > :00:26.I'm delighted to say that the Labour Party National executive has decided
:00:27. > :00:28.that an incumbent is automatically on the ballot paper. CHEERING
:00:29. > :00:32.It's alleged that at one point, as the party's
:00:33. > :00:34.National Executive Committee deliberated, Mr Corbyn
:00:35. > :00:37.was asked to leave the room, and refused to go.
:00:38. > :00:40.And the fight in the party saw a brick thrown through the window of
:00:41. > :00:49.We'll ask Angela Eagle whether a split is now inevitable.
:00:50. > :00:51.As the ceremonial removal van enters Downing Street,
:00:52. > :00:53.the Conservatives say farewell to their leader.
:00:54. > :01:01.His biggest error was winning the 2015 general election
:01:02. > :01:04.because had it still been a coalition, then of course
:01:05. > :01:06.the referendum, I suspect, would never have been allowed
:01:07. > :01:23.The black Americans who are arming themselves with guns,
:01:24. > :01:25.to protect themselves from the police.
:01:26. > :01:32.When the Civil War was fought, did the North go to war
:01:33. > :01:43.Don't the battlefield need to be even?
:01:44. > :01:46.A champion of the radical left, a man who challenges
:01:47. > :01:50.conventional politics, for months he fights hard,
:01:51. > :01:53.infuriates his opponents and inspires a new band of supporters.
:01:54. > :01:56.But finally, he concedes his campaign is not going to get him
:01:57. > :01:59.into power, and he offers support to the woman challenging him,
:02:00. > :02:06.It was in the US, where Bernie Sanders endorsed Hillary Clinton.
:02:07. > :02:10.For the Labour Party, in contrast, the split
:02:11. > :02:12.between the radical left and establishment left leaves
:02:13. > :02:15.the party in the grimmest of predicaments.
:02:16. > :02:19.We knew there would be a leadership election,
:02:20. > :02:22.and now we know Jeremy Corbyn will be on the ballot, after a long
:02:23. > :02:24.National Executive Committee meeting this afternoon.
:02:25. > :02:26.Our political editor Nick Watt is here.
:02:27. > :02:35.It was the mother of all NEC meetings. This is one of the big
:02:36. > :02:42.meetings in two moments in Labour's post-war history. Corbyn has lost
:02:43. > :02:45.80% of the support of his MPs but he will be on the ballot in the
:02:46. > :02:48.leadership contest and what is significant is that the visual
:02:49. > :02:54.Labour machinery had some legal advice saying he should be treated
:02:55. > :02:59.like any other candidate, but he is automatically on the ballot. When I
:03:00. > :03:00.caught up with him, he was delighted.
:03:01. > :03:02.Is that a really historic day, Jeremy?
:03:03. > :03:07.It's about people, it's about political engagement
:03:08. > :03:13.And our campaign is going to be about bringing people
:03:14. > :03:22.Members have elected me ten months ago, we now look
:03:23. > :03:25.like having another election, that's fine, let's take part in that
:03:26. > :03:30.It will be done with respect, it will be done with decency,
:03:31. > :03:41.He seemed very happy and perhaps feistier than we've seen him for a
:03:42. > :03:45.few months. It is like a life or death struggle for both factions in
:03:46. > :03:48.the party. Let's think about the left, why is this issue so
:03:49. > :03:53.important? It was make or break for the left, their view is that if
:03:54. > :03:56.Jeremy Corbyn was not automatically on the paper they couldn't be sure
:03:57. > :04:01.of getting the 51 nominations to get him on. I understand that ten days
:04:02. > :04:05.ago, Corbyn was thinking of throwing in the towel but his key allies,
:04:06. > :04:10.John O'Donnell and his strategy chief said, don't do that because
:04:11. > :04:14.there is nobody is with his appeal and that why Seamus Milne looked
:04:15. > :04:14.very happy when I caught up with him.
:04:15. > :04:23.Are you being interviewed for Newsnight?
:04:24. > :04:37.OK. Not particularly revealing exchanges! OK, the Labour plotters,
:04:38. > :04:44.the antique Corbyn people, they lost the big issue, Corbyn is in the
:04:45. > :04:48.ballot, but there is more news for them. They say that he is beatable
:04:49. > :04:53.because the rules are different. If you are a full-time member, you can
:04:54. > :05:01.only vote if you signed up since February. So those who signed up
:05:02. > :05:05.since, they can't vote. If you are a so-called edited supporter, you have
:05:06. > :05:09.to pay ?23 and there is a brief window in July for you to sign up.
:05:10. > :05:14.The idea is to create a different contest last year when you could pay
:05:15. > :05:19.just ?3 and sign up on the EE of the ballot. Some Labour Party sources
:05:20. > :05:22.close to Jeremy Corbyn say that this sounds like the ballot is being
:05:23. > :05:29.rigged, and they want to challenge these very strict rules at the next
:05:30. > :05:33.meeting of the NEC. Frankly it is so bitter and unpleasant, the lawyers
:05:34. > :05:37.are going over the words in order to get interpretations of the rules.
:05:38. > :05:41.One might take the view that they'll be on a point at which a split is
:05:42. > :05:47.inevitable. There is a feeling that if Angela Eagle or if it is Owen
:05:48. > :05:51.Smith, the unity candidate to take on Corbyn, if they don't defeat him,
:05:52. > :05:57.you have a feeling that at the very least you may get a kind of
:05:58. > :06:01.unilateral declaration of independence from the Parliamentary
:06:02. > :06:04.Labour Party. 176 of the 231 voted against him and they could become
:06:05. > :06:08.the official opposition. Whether they can setup a party in the
:06:09. > :06:13.country without the support of the trade union movement, that's a
:06:14. > :06:15.different one. Thank you for joining us.
:06:16. > :06:18.Well, who knows what is going on at the local level?
:06:19. > :06:20.My Newsnight colleagues, Jake Morris and Hannah Barnes have
:06:21. > :06:22.been ringing around today, to local Labour councillors
:06:23. > :06:25.It's not a poll obviously, not scientific, but they've been
:06:26. > :06:27.telling us that party membership has gone up
:06:28. > :06:30.considerably in the last year, and that there's been a surge
:06:31. > :06:38.The majority gave us the impression that they thought the latest
:06:39. > :06:42.people to join the party were in the pro-Corbyn camp.
:06:43. > :06:47."If Corbyn's on the ballot, he'll win" said one,
:06:48. > :06:50."and there will be a split in the party.
:06:51. > :06:55.I don't see how the PLP can continue," they continued.
:06:56. > :06:57.Most striking were the views on the conduct of politics
:06:58. > :07:23.One area where the vitriol has descended into the criminal
:07:24. > :07:27.is Wallasey on Merseyside, the constituency of Angela Eagle.
:07:28. > :07:32.Lewis Goodall went to see what has been going on there today,
:07:33. > :07:34.and found echoes of struggles in that area, reported
:07:35. > :07:51.You wouldn't know it, but the Wirral on wordy side -- Merseyside is
:07:52. > :07:54.ground zero in the battle for the soul of the Labour Party and from
:07:55. > :07:58.any old hands in Labour in this part of the world and may be many
:07:59. > :08:04.Newsnight viewers, this may feel all too familiar. Newsnight was here in
:08:05. > :08:11.Wallasey 25 years ago covering an emboldened local Labour Party who
:08:12. > :08:14.were trying to deselect their local Labour MP. Well it's happening all
:08:15. > :08:19.over again but this time it isn't a local backbencher who can't
:08:20. > :08:24.guarantee the support of their party members, like Angela Eagle, who,
:08:25. > :08:31.theoretically at least, could be the Labour delayed -- could be the
:08:32. > :08:36.Labour Party leader. Angela Eagle has incest many of her Labour Party
:08:37. > :08:41.activists including her constituency chair. She has done some strange
:08:42. > :08:46.things recently. For months she has been telling us what she is doing
:08:47. > :08:53.and what the party is doing and she has always shown support for Jeremy.
:08:54. > :08:59.She says he is doing a good job, when asked about the referendum,
:09:00. > :09:02.saying he is running up and down the country like a 25-year-old, but a
:09:03. > :09:08.week later he has shown no leadership qualities, what a load of
:09:09. > :09:12.rubbish. She would work with any elected leader and get behind him
:09:13. > :09:17.for the democratic right of our members. And on that basis, we
:09:18. > :09:22.supported her. So now she is contesting and saying that Jeremy
:09:23. > :09:26.isn't a good leader and she is contesting that leadership and we
:09:27. > :09:33.feel very let down by Angela. Cathy Jo into -- join the party with
:09:34. > :09:37.Jeremy Corbyn and less than a year later she is the chair of the CLP,
:09:38. > :09:44.numbering 1200. With many of those involved this is part of eight
:09:45. > :09:47.strategy, building up in the local party and consolidating across
:09:48. > :09:55.Labour nationally. We have a meeting on the 22nd of this month and there
:09:56. > :10:01.will be motions debated at a meeting in which there will be a decision
:10:02. > :10:04.taken about who gets the CLP support in the leadership contest. Caffeine
:10:05. > :10:09.may be new but this man certainly isn't. -- Cathy may be new.
:10:10. > :10:11.A quarter of a century ago that Newsnight
:10:12. > :10:12.investigation focused on
:10:13. > :10:14.the attempts to deselect Birkenhead MP Frank Field.
:10:15. > :10:19.He's back in the party and vice-chair of Wallasey
:10:20. > :10:26.There will be a move to punish MPs, I accept that, by some
:10:27. > :10:29.I don't think we should punish people.
:10:30. > :10:34.I think they should be prepared to take the same route
:10:35. > :10:36.they thought was fit for Jeremy Corbyn.
:10:37. > :10:39.He faced a vote of no confidence, they said he should
:10:40. > :10:43.They then denigrated him for not resigning.
:10:44. > :10:46.If an MP gets the vote of no-confidence in their
:10:47. > :10:48.constituency, having said that, they should resign.
:10:49. > :10:51.Today the action against Angela Eagle went beyond
:10:52. > :10:54.Sometime this morning a brick was thrown into the window
:10:55. > :10:57.The response on Facebook wasn't exactly
:10:58. > :11:02.We didn't expect anything where they were going to start
:11:03. > :11:06.throwing things through the window, but we did
:11:07. > :11:13.which we were working was becoming increasingly hostile.
:11:14. > :11:15.My son made sure I had a little alarm thing on
:11:16. > :11:18.my keys now because he's worried about me, especially with the
:11:19. > :11:25.In the wake of the murder of Jo Cox, many spoke
:11:26. > :11:27.of a kind of politics and a new respect for MPs.
:11:28. > :11:31.Clearly the author of this e-mail obtained by Newsnight
:11:32. > :11:46.sent only today to Angela Eagle's office didn't take it to heart.
:11:47. > :11:49.Some members of the local party say a
:11:50. > :11:52.culture of intimidation has gripped Labour across the Wirral.
:11:53. > :11:54.Councillor Moira MacLachlan is a veteran of the
:11:55. > :11:58.On the basis of what's happening at the moment
:11:59. > :12:01.and what happened in Birkenhead 30 years ago, almost certainly there
:12:02. > :12:06.will be an attempt to get rid of Angela and some
:12:07. > :12:09.of the councillors who support her, I would fully expect that to happen.
:12:10. > :12:13.In Wallasey the tone of the meetings has been appalling, we've had
:12:14. > :12:15.threats of violence, homophobia, arguments between grown men and
:12:16. > :12:19.Most recently today we've had an actual act of violence, a brick
:12:20. > :12:25.Homophobic comments aimed at Angela Eagle, who
:12:26. > :12:32.Homophobic gestures at the mention of Angela's name.
:12:33. > :12:34.One lady even threatening to punch somebody.
:12:35. > :12:36.What really angers me is that this is a
:12:37. > :12:38.blatant contradiction of our own laws, our
:12:39. > :12:39.own values as members of
:12:40. > :12:44.We should work together in the spirit of
:12:45. > :12:50.Some say this is simply robust debate.
:12:51. > :12:53.We are being asked to believe that amongst the councillors
:12:54. > :12:58.there, the trade union officials there, the people who support Angela
:12:59. > :13:03.and the people who don't support Angela, not one person stood up to
:13:04. > :13:06.object to intimidation, or worse, to object to homophobia.
:13:07. > :13:12.Now I would criticise anyone, anyone who heard
:13:13. > :13:15.homophobic comments or saw homophobic gestures at a meeting who
:13:16. > :13:27.I couldn't speak about intimidation because I was
:13:28. > :13:31.Many would never have thought that the battles of the
:13:32. > :13:37.A vote of no-confidence will take place in Angela Eagle's
:13:38. > :13:43.One source on the CLP told me the momentum for that motion
:13:44. > :13:46.If she's still a candidate to lead, what happens
:13:47. > :13:48.then, like much else in the Labour Party right
:13:49. > :13:56.Well, with me now is Angela Eagle, the former Shadow Business Secretary
:13:57. > :14:00.who is standing against Jeremy Corbyn for the leadership.
:14:01. > :14:09.Good evening. Watching that, are you sure you are in the right party with
:14:10. > :14:15.those people? I've been a Labour Party member for 40 years. I've
:14:16. > :14:20.dedicated my life to the Labour Party and I will stay in the Labour
:14:21. > :14:25.Party whatever happens. What my leadership challenge is about is
:14:26. > :14:30.saving and reuniting the Labour Party so that it can be an effective
:14:31. > :14:36.opposition in Parliament so that we can make our democracy work and I
:14:37. > :14:40.hope he'll our country and save it from perpetual Conservative
:14:41. > :14:43.dominance. You said a lot in that answer. Firstly, you will stay in
:14:44. > :14:49.the Labour Party. There are those who say that it's over and that you
:14:50. > :14:53.can't. It is my party, I was born into it. There are people who have
:14:54. > :14:58.come back into it recently. You saw and heard from some of them in that
:14:59. > :15:03.piece. They were thrown out in the 1990s. They are back in and you can
:15:04. > :15:09.see what they are doing. I have to stand up to that kind of bullying
:15:10. > :15:12.and I will continue to. If there's a motion of no confidence in you by
:15:13. > :15:20.your local party, you heard what the gentleman said, failing the motion
:15:21. > :15:21.of no-confidence, get out. Would you stand aside from that seat, what
:15:22. > :15:31.will you do if they deselect you? There's no question of me being
:15:32. > :15:37.deselected at the moment. What I'm doing is trying to say that the
:15:38. > :15:42.Labour Party was created to be the voice of working people in
:15:43. > :15:44.Parliament, to make certain that those who create the wealth in our
:15:45. > :15:48.country actually get a fair share of the opportunities and the income
:15:49. > :15:54.that comes from that well. That is the historic role of the Labour
:15:55. > :15:58.Party. To do that you have to be effective in Parliament. I have
:15:59. > :16:02.tried to work with Jeremy from nine months. He has lost the confidence
:16:03. > :16:07.of his parliamentary colleagues and cannot lead in Parliament. He is
:16:08. > :16:11.also failing to lead on the doorstep because he's not communicating or
:16:12. > :16:15.connecting with the 9 million people who voted Labour at the last
:16:16. > :16:19.election. And we have a duty as Labour Party members of Parliament
:16:20. > :16:24.to put that case to him. And I will get to all of that. We saw a brick
:16:25. > :16:29.thrown through your constituency office window. Do you think it is
:16:30. > :16:33.the Labour Party members of any kind who are responsible for the
:16:34. > :16:37.violence, death threats, hate that we've seen? There's a lot of hate,
:16:38. > :16:43.there were death threats, I've been told, tonight. There's a lot of
:16:44. > :16:46.vitriol. I have to say that my office workers have to work in that
:16:47. > :16:50.environment, and you heard from one of them to night. They are just
:16:51. > :16:54.trying to do their job. They should not be subjected to this kind of
:16:55. > :16:59.approach. It's happening up and down the country. Is it Jeremy Corbyn's
:17:00. > :17:03.fold? It is bullying and it should stop, and Jeremy should tell his
:17:04. > :17:08.supporters who are orchestrating this on social media to stop. And
:17:09. > :17:14.you don't think he's done enough so far? I don't think he's shown
:17:15. > :17:18.leadership there, either. You've said the Labour Party is your party,
:17:19. > :17:21.but we just have to face the possibility that you are not going
:17:22. > :17:27.to win the leadership election, and Jeremy Corbyn will be there, and
:17:28. > :17:32.what is going to be happen... I'm not going to speculate about what
:17:33. > :17:37.will happen if I lose. I'm in this leadership election to win it. We
:17:38. > :17:39.need to be an effective Labour Party going forward which puts a
:17:40. > :17:44.compelling case to the British people that is an anti-Tory case.
:17:45. > :17:48.There are huge challenges following the Brexit vote, we've got to make
:17:49. > :17:51.certain that the effects of that Brexit vote aren't visited upon
:17:52. > :17:56.communities that have already suffered from Tory cuts and
:17:57. > :18:04.austerity. I understand. We've got to be effective. Of course you do. I
:18:05. > :18:08.understand. And that is the argument we are having in the party at the
:18:09. > :18:12.moment. I understand but let's suppose Theresa May calls the
:18:13. > :18:16.general election next break, perfectly possible. I expect there
:18:17. > :18:21.will be. Will you be able to look in the eyes of the public and say, vote
:18:22. > :18:24.for Jeremy Corbyn to be Prime Minister, even everything you've
:18:25. > :18:28.said about him? We are having a leadership election and I have
:18:29. > :18:32.joined in that leadership election to win it. Jeremy has opened up the
:18:33. > :18:36.party to new ideas and changed the direction of the party. He now needs
:18:37. > :18:40.to stand aside so other people can take this forward and communicate
:18:41. > :18:44.properly with Labour voters. I would say to the 9 million Labour voters
:18:45. > :18:49.out there, there are two days next week when you campaign ?25, help
:18:50. > :18:53.save the Labour Party, make our democracy work, and help me here our
:18:54. > :18:57.country. Join as a registered supporter. So you are literally
:18:58. > :19:02.urging the country to join to get Corbyn out? That is precisely what I
:19:03. > :19:07.think should happen. Join us in this battle and let us win the Labour
:19:08. > :19:10.Party back for parliamentary democracy. We need people to
:19:11. > :19:16.persuade the country and not just protest. ?25 is quite expensive to
:19:17. > :19:21.get the vote. It's a good investment for the whole of democracy. If there
:19:22. > :19:27.was an election next spring or sooner and Jeremy Corbyn was leader,
:19:28. > :19:31.how do you think Labour would do? I think the evidence, unfortunately,
:19:32. > :19:37.is clear. We are 8% behind in the polls now when we should be ahead.
:19:38. > :19:41.We lost seats in the local elections despite all our efforts. We lost a
:19:42. > :19:45.referendum because voters saw the ambiguity that Jeremy had during
:19:46. > :19:52.that referendum and that is going to cause enormous damage. In the
:19:53. > :19:57.marginals we are 14% behind. So we have to do something and we have to
:19:58. > :20:01.do it quickly if we are going to prevent perpetual conservative rule,
:20:02. > :20:04.which will damage our areas and damage the interests of Labour
:20:05. > :20:08.voters. In the campaign so far you have tried to downplay policy
:20:09. > :20:15.differences between you and Jeremy Corbyn, you say it is not a left
:20:16. > :20:18.right thing. Well, I'm on the left. Well people might debate that. I did
:20:19. > :20:23.not walk away when Jeremy was elected, I try to serve until it was
:20:24. > :20:28.impossible to carry on. Why do you think, then, that the party under
:20:29. > :20:32.you, will win, when it will lose so badly under Jeremy Corbyn? Well,
:20:33. > :20:37.look, I think you need a more effective communicator and somebody
:20:38. > :20:41.that reaches out to voters. Jeremy talks to people who don't really
:20:42. > :20:45.believe in Parliamentary democracy. He is a protest, he is not a
:20:46. > :20:49.persuader of people. He has done a good thing by switching the way that
:20:50. > :20:55.the Labour Party works. Now we need something else to take it forward.
:20:56. > :20:59.Owen Smith, another candidate, potentially, we think he will throw
:21:00. > :21:03.his hat into the ring tomorrow or soon thereafter, it's not going to
:21:04. > :21:07.work so well for the Corbyn Challenger as if there are two of
:21:08. > :21:11.you fighting. Will you stand aside if he looks like the stronger of the
:21:12. > :21:16.two of you? I think it's about time we had a woman leader of the Labour
:21:17. > :21:19.Party elected. We now have the Conservatives on the second woman
:21:20. > :21:24.Prime Minister. We are the party of a quality that has always worked in
:21:25. > :21:29.this agenda. It's about time that we had a woman leader. So you won't
:21:30. > :21:34.stand aside? Basically you will have two splits in the party? I don't
:21:35. > :21:38.know whether Owen is going to stand, but I'm willing to have this debate
:21:39. > :21:43.in full view of the party members. We are going to have a contest, I'm
:21:44. > :21:47.looking forward to it. Which is more important to you? Is it more
:21:48. > :21:51.important to you that you become the leader or that Jeremy Corbyn ceases
:21:52. > :21:56.to be the leader? Is it about stopping Corbyn or you leading? Well
:21:57. > :22:00.I think I've got good experience and leadership capabilities to take us
:22:01. > :22:06.forward into this very different and challenging era. And that's the
:22:07. > :22:11.debate we are going to be having. But let's be honest, it is about
:22:12. > :22:14.Corbyn, isn't it? I think it's a most impossible for somebody who's
:22:15. > :22:18.lost the support of the vast majority of their Parliamentary
:22:19. > :22:22.party to carry on as leader of the Parliamentary party, which is the
:22:23. > :22:27.first part of the job description of the Labour Party. It is in clause
:22:28. > :22:36.one of our Constitution. There was a moment when I wondered whether you
:22:37. > :22:41.would make a pitch to the grief stricken Remainers, the 16 million
:22:42. > :22:46.people who voted, there must be at least 1 million, 2 million. At maybe
:22:47. > :22:51.they are feeling like they were not paid ?25 to vote for you. One of the
:22:52. > :22:55.policy differences between me and Jeremy, on the day after the
:22:56. > :22:59.referendum Jeremy came out and said article 50 should be triggered
:23:00. > :23:03.straightaway. I think that would be a profound mistake. I think we have
:23:04. > :23:06.to be very careful in the way we begin to disentangle from the
:23:07. > :23:09.European Union and we have to do it in a way which is least likely to
:23:10. > :23:13.hurt those communities I'm particularly concerned about, those
:23:14. > :23:20.poorer communities who have already been badly hit by Tory cuts. Some
:23:21. > :23:23.who are more sympathetic to your side of the argument have looked at
:23:24. > :23:27.the results of the NEC and set Corbyn is going to win, this is the
:23:28. > :23:32.death of the Labour Party as we know it. I wonder whether you look at
:23:33. > :23:36.these members who are going to try to get you deselected, confidence
:23:37. > :23:39.motion in you, you look at the violence internally, the vitriol and
:23:40. > :23:42.the debate, and don't you wonder whether the marriage between this
:23:43. > :23:48.radical left and establishment left is over, do you never wonder that? I
:23:49. > :23:52.think it's important that we take the broad base of the Labour Party
:23:53. > :23:55.with us. I don't think that some of the people have joined and the way
:23:56. > :23:59.they are behaving is acceptable behaviour in British politics. It
:24:00. > :24:03.course and is our democracy and it needs to be called out for the
:24:04. > :24:07.bullying it is. I'm standing up to it and everybody else needs to stand
:24:08. > :24:10.up to it. And I think Jeremy Corbyn leads to condemn it and stop it
:24:11. > :24:12.happening. Angela Eagle, thank you very much.
:24:13. > :24:14.The killing of five policeman in Dallas last Thursday,
:24:15. > :24:17.an insane revenge for the killing of black citizens by
:24:18. > :24:19.the police, has left America shocked and divided.
:24:20. > :24:21.And so today, there was an attempt at healing.
:24:22. > :24:23.President Obama and George W Bush attended a memorial
:24:24. > :24:27.service in the city, for the dead policemen.
:24:28. > :24:34.But those of us who love Dallas and call it home have had five
:24:35. > :24:44.We are here to honour the memory and mourn the loss
:24:45. > :25:04.To pray for the wounded and to try and find some meaning
:25:05. > :25:12.You have to go back decades to find a time when the politics of race
:25:13. > :25:15.in the US, were as fraught as they are now.
:25:16. > :25:17.But if you do go back decades, you might remember
:25:18. > :25:22.the Black Panther movement - a party of gun-toting
:25:23. > :25:23.political radicals challenging police brutality.
:25:24. > :25:28.the Black Panther movement - a party of gun-toting
:25:29. > :25:29.political radicals challenging police brutality.
:25:30. > :25:31.Back then, believe it or not, the National Rifle Association
:25:32. > :25:35.The Panthers fizzled out in acrimony and scandal in the seventies,
:25:36. > :25:38.but in its time, the movement inspired more than a few activists.
:25:39. > :25:41.Well, there is a new Black Panther party and a new move among black
:25:42. > :25:44.Americans to carry guns; getting into a kind of arms
:25:45. > :25:50.Gabriel Gatehouse has been in Dallas to talk to some of those involved.
:25:51. > :26:01.My biggest threat is the police department.
:26:02. > :26:06.They are the biggest gang in our country.
:26:07. > :26:22.We are already at war, we already have casualties in war.
:26:23. > :26:26.We're just sitting there and then IMITATES GUNFIRE.
:26:27. > :26:28.They're shooting right now and there's an officer down.
:26:29. > :26:41.It began as a peaceful protest against the killing
:26:42. > :26:52.It ended with Micah Johnson, a black man, shooting five
:26:53. > :26:59.But I also felt hurt because we had to march for those four
:27:00. > :27:01.brothers who had been killed by the police.
:27:02. > :27:05.He say, we saw Alton Sterling being assassinated.
:27:06. > :27:09.Alinca Green was one of the organisers of the protest
:27:10. > :27:15.which marched under the banner, Black Lives Matter.
:27:16. > :27:17.The killer told police he was not affiliated with any organisation,
:27:18. > :27:20.but he has shown an interest in social media in various black
:27:21. > :27:27.I don't know the guy, I don't know the shooter but I can tell you,
:27:28. > :27:29.if you oppress the people for so long, the revolt
:27:30. > :27:32.Can I just be clear, you aren't advocating
:27:33. > :27:37.Not at all, I mean, we aren't advocating shooting
:27:38. > :27:43.We're advocating survival, the survival of our people.
:27:44. > :27:49.Thursday's shooting was the deadliest day for US law
:27:50. > :27:56.It's hard to overstate the effect that has an some sections
:27:57. > :27:59.Here in Dallas, people really are coming together around
:28:00. > :28:02.the police force and it's worth just taking a look at the numbers.
:28:03. > :28:05.26 police officers have been shot dead in the line of duty
:28:06. > :28:14.The number of people killed, shot dead by police officers so far
:28:15. > :28:27.When you dig into the demographics, you find a stark truth and that is,
:28:28. > :28:31.if you are black in America, you are two and a half times more
:28:32. > :28:34.likely to be shot dead by the police than if you are white.
:28:35. > :28:49.A group called the Huey P Newton Gun Club is calling on black
:28:50. > :28:55.Huey P Newton was was one of the founders of the Black Panthers.
:28:56. > :28:57.The gun club is affiliated with the new Black Panther Party
:28:58. > :29:00.which has chapters across the United States.
:29:01. > :29:10.They hold occasional demonstrations in the Dallas area
:29:11. > :29:12.where they parade in public, guns on display,
:29:13. > :29:15.La'Shadion Anthony is affiliated with the gun club.
:29:16. > :29:21.One in the chamber at all times.
:29:22. > :29:28.So that means if I need to, I just aim and squeeze.
:29:29. > :29:39.My biggest threat is the police department, they are the biggest
:29:40. > :29:42.Like the killing of Philando Castile, one of the deaths that
:29:43. > :29:44.sparked the demonstration in Dallas on Thursday,
:29:45. > :29:47.many fatal shootings by police begin as a simple traffic stop,
:29:48. > :29:55.for something as innocuous as a broken tail light.
:29:56. > :29:57.We can't even see past tomorrow because tomorrow is not
:29:58. > :30:05.I can leave here right now and be pulled over for a traffic stop
:30:06. > :30:07.like the young man did, Philando Castile and end up dead
:30:08. > :30:11.In front of your wife and your child.
:30:12. > :30:13.Against this backdrop, Dallas waited for a visit from
:30:14. > :30:22.Among the congregation at Friendship West Baptist Church,
:30:23. > :30:24.many have mixed feelings about Obama's record on standing up
:30:25. > :30:30.Don't put all this on police, you put this on America.
:30:31. > :30:34.Can we hurt for the families of the slain police
:30:35. > :30:38.officers and the families of Alton and Philando?
:30:39. > :30:42.All I'm trying to say, Mr President, if you come to Dallas,
:30:43. > :30:45.you need to come to Baton Rouge, you need to go to Minnesota,
:30:46. > :30:51.you need to go to Staten Island, you need to go down to Prairie View,
:30:52. > :30:54.you need to go to every place with an unnecessary
:30:55. > :31:03.This was a mixed audience including representatives from mothers groups,
:31:04. > :31:05.members of the Nation of Islam and supporters
:31:06. > :31:12.There's a lot of talk here about local democracy,
:31:13. > :31:14.about making the law work for the black community,
:31:15. > :31:18.about building bridges with other communities.
:31:19. > :31:22.But there are also some people here who are re-examining
:31:23. > :31:26.the founding principles of American democracy.
:31:27. > :31:30.There are some, not all, but some in this room who say
:31:31. > :31:34.the Second Amendment, the right to bear arms,
:31:35. > :31:37.written into the Constitution so that Americans could defend
:31:38. > :31:41.themselves from an oppressive government that didn't
:31:42. > :31:47.And here, in the 21st-century, they are taking inspiration from that.
:31:48. > :31:50.The liberal idea that the solution to America's gun violence is gun
:31:51. > :31:58.Guns don't kill people, police with guns kill people.
:31:59. > :32:02.We see this every day in our country.
:32:03. > :32:04.They kill people and they go home without any consequence.
:32:05. > :32:07.But don't police with guns kill people because they are worried
:32:08. > :32:13.That's the rhetoric that they use, the propaganda that they use.
:32:14. > :32:15.But they've been killing us even before guns.
:32:16. > :32:17.They don't even have to have guns to kill us,
:32:18. > :32:20.they killed Eric Garner by choking him to death.
:32:21. > :32:22.The guns are the only sanctuary we have to keep
:32:23. > :32:31.But the implication of what you are saying, it is very
:32:32. > :32:34.scary because if you are saying the only defence you have
:32:35. > :32:36.from your own police is your own weapon, then down that
:32:37. > :32:45.When the Civil War was fought, did the North go to war
:32:46. > :32:50.Doesn't the battlefield needs to be even?
:32:51. > :33:00.We have tried prayer and everything else, we've tried dialogue,
:33:01. > :33:06.I don't want to see it go to war but what do we have left?
:33:07. > :33:07.I'm not advocating this, but it's happening.
:33:08. > :33:15.What is happening to our country where you turn on your TV,
:33:16. > :33:18.within two days, two black men who did nothing
:33:19. > :33:26.There are plenty of people who feel deeply uneasy about the idea
:33:27. > :33:28.that their best protection against their own police
:33:29. > :33:35.But advocates of arming the black community are not
:33:36. > :33:40.And the killing of five officers here last week seems certain
:33:41. > :33:48.to deepen America's already deadly racial divide.
:33:49. > :33:50.David Cameron steps off his Prime Ministerial perch tomorrow,
:33:51. > :33:54.having spent over six years in Downing Street.
:33:55. > :34:01.In terms of length of tenure, he's somewhere in the middle
:34:02. > :34:04.of the league of post-war prime ministers, but let's face it,
:34:05. > :34:08.Among other objectives, he had three: he wanted to hold
:34:09. > :34:10.the Conservative Party together, to stop it banging on about Europe,
:34:11. > :34:15.In the end, he could achieve one of those, in that the party has
:34:16. > :34:19.And even that may not be a secure legacy.
:34:20. > :34:21.Because we will probably not be talking about David Cameron much
:34:22. > :34:27.tomorrow, we asked David Grossman to reflect on his record.
:34:28. > :34:30.David the chameleon burst out into the big wide world.
:34:31. > :34:33.When Labour was first trying to deal with the fresh young
:34:34. > :34:36.challenge from David Cameron, they came up with this,
:34:37. > :34:39.Dave the Chameleon, the ultimate non-conviction politician who led
:34:40. > :34:41.Dave the Chameleon, the ultimate non-conviction politician who let
:34:42. > :34:45.From now on he would only tell people whatever he thought
:34:46. > :34:48.they wanted to hear, whether he and the blue
:34:49. > :34:55.No better example of this chameleon-like tendency,
:34:56. > :34:57.say Mr Cameron's critics, than his attitude over
:34:58. > :35:04.Say whatever is necessary or expedient to get out
:35:05. > :35:07.of a difficult news cycle or party rebellion and then count
:35:08. > :35:09.on your ability as a brilliant salesman to get you out
:35:10. > :35:11.of difficulty before disaster strikes.
:35:12. > :35:19.David Cameron secured the Conservative Party leadership
:35:20. > :35:24.in 2005, partly by appealing to the Eurosceptic right of his party.
:35:25. > :35:28.A promise to take the Conservatives out of the European People's Party
:35:29. > :35:31.grouping in the European Parliament was essentially meaningless to most
:35:32. > :35:36.voters but acted like catnip to a certain type of Conservative MP.
:35:37. > :35:44.The caricature that he made these noises to try to win around
:35:45. > :35:46.the right of the party really isn't true because I discussed
:35:47. > :35:48.these issues with him in private company
:35:49. > :35:52.in public and there was no disconnect, he genuinely believed
:35:53. > :35:54.that the European Union needed fundamental reform.
:35:55. > :35:56.He was committed to trying to do that.
:35:57. > :35:59.That's why he took the tough decision to leave the EPP,
:36:00. > :36:04.It's why he vetoed the treaty when he became Prime Minister
:36:05. > :36:08.with all of the flak that he got on that.
:36:09. > :36:11.But in the end it just wasn't possible to get the kind of reform
:36:12. > :36:18.But the by-product of those decisions was to cut David Cameron
:36:19. > :36:20.off from like-minded centre-right EU leaders like Angela Merkel
:36:21. > :36:28.And it made it impossible for him to block the rise
:36:29. > :36:31.The Eurosceptics wanted more and more but David Cameron,
:36:32. > :36:32.having raised expectations during his leadership contest,
:36:33. > :36:39.Instead of talking the things that most people care about,
:36:40. > :36:42.we talked about what we cared about most.
:36:43. > :36:45.While parents worried about childcare, getting their kids
:36:46. > :36:48.to school, the balance between work and family life,
:36:49. > :36:52.we were sometimes banging on about Europe.
:36:53. > :36:56.I think when you are leader of the Conservative Party that has
:36:57. > :37:01.such a clear part that is dedicated to being Eurosceptic,
:37:02. > :37:04.and really very difficult to get a decision that would have
:37:05. > :37:13.What always impressed me about David as Prime Minister was that he did
:37:14. > :37:15.try and deliver for that group as well as deliver for
:37:16. > :37:23.I'm not entirely sure that when it came down to it at the 2005 and 2010
:37:24. > :37:26.general elections that Europe was the top agenda item for voters
:37:27. > :37:33.Like a brilliant but mercurial batsman, David Cameron tried
:37:34. > :37:36.to knock the ball out of the park to win the match on Europe
:37:37. > :37:38.when perhaps a more cautious politician would have
:37:39. > :37:43.But his approach worked, until it didn't.
:37:44. > :37:46.He was convinced he could win fundamental reform of the EU.
:37:47. > :37:50.He promised his party and the country.
:37:51. > :37:54.I will go to Brussels, I will not take no for an answer
:37:55. > :37:59.and when it comes to free movement, I will get what Britain needs.
:38:00. > :38:02.This promise and the referendum pledge itself were designed
:38:03. > :38:06.to neutralise the increasing threat that Mr Cameron saw from Ukip.
:38:07. > :38:09.Do you accept or not that in your renegotiation,
:38:10. > :38:10.free movement is not up for discussion?
:38:11. > :38:21.Nigel is basically saying give up before you've begun.
:38:22. > :38:22.In that election, the Ukip threat was contained,
:38:23. > :38:26.The unexpected victory gave Mr Cameron a huge problem.
:38:27. > :38:28.He didn't have to offer the referendum but the reality
:38:29. > :38:31.was that once he gave that promise, he had to deliver on it.
:38:32. > :38:35.There is no way that the Conservative Party
:38:36. > :38:37.at Westminster would allow that promise not to be delivered.
:38:38. > :38:43.Funnily enough I suppose one can say that his biggest error was winning
:38:44. > :38:47.the 2015 general election because had it still been
:38:48. > :38:49.a coalition, then of course the referendum, I suspect,
:38:50. > :38:51.would never have been allowed by the Liberal Democrats.
:38:52. > :38:55.What happened next in the negotiations
:38:56. > :39:00.and the referendum has, of course, been well documented.
:39:01. > :39:03.David Cameron was unable to deliver, unable to satisfy large
:39:04. > :39:05.sections of his party, unable to persuade
:39:06. > :39:10.I think the truth is, leaving the European Union is not
:39:11. > :39:17.When I worked for him as an adviser, we were discussing his approach
:39:18. > :39:19.on the Lisbon Treaty, he once joked that if we left
:39:20. > :39:22.the EU, at least he wouldn't have to worry about his legacy.
:39:23. > :39:26.Tony Blair worried about his legacy in those days.
:39:27. > :39:30.On his last full day as Prime Minister, Mr Cameron tried
:39:31. > :39:34.to point us towards an alternative legacy, visiting one of the more
:39:35. > :39:37.than 300 free schools that opened since he entered Downing Street.
:39:38. > :39:41.He looked relaxed, happy, even, as if savouring the moment
:39:42. > :39:55.A quick look at the papers, the Daily Telegraph on the legacy,
:39:56. > :40:02.saying that he hopes that people see a stronger country as he leaves, he
:40:03. > :40:10.said. The times refers to a possible Labour Party split. May's women on
:40:11. > :40:15.the march in the Daily Mail. That's all we have time for. I will be back
:40:16. > :40:18.tomorrow. Something is happening, what is it? Oh yes, Theresa May will
:40:19. > :40:37.be visiting the Palace! Sunshine sunshine and showers
:40:38. > :40:38.tomorrow. There will be more across