:00:14. > :00:15.You probably don't know him like they do, but you soon will.
:00:16. > :00:20.Michel Barnier is the new European Commission's enforcer
:00:21. > :00:25.Meanwhile, our new International Trade Secretary has already
:00:26. > :00:27.been rebuffed by Canada, and didn't fare much
:00:28. > :00:34.I'll be asking a former US Trade Representative what chance
:00:35. > :00:37.a quick trade deal with North America.
:00:38. > :00:43.Also tonight, Emily's in Philidelphia.
:00:44. > :00:54.As the Democrats Mark a historic milestone, Donald Trump calls on
:00:55. > :00:56.Russia about the missing e-mails. Is it a defining issue or is he trying
:00:57. > :00:58.to dominate her day? And Labour's internecine
:00:59. > :01:00.war goes on. Owen Smith, Jeremy Corbyn's
:01:01. > :01:11.challenger, woos the party's left. Ladies and gentlemen, Owen Smith.
:01:12. > :01:18.The public sector pay freeze would end. We'll be spending an extra 4%
:01:19. > :01:21.per annum on the NHS, and equality busting wealth tax.
:01:22. > :01:23.We've been to Burnley, where it's all too little, too late.
:01:24. > :01:31.I'll be asking Kate Green, who quit the Shadow Cabinet,
:01:32. > :01:36.They are showing themselves for what they are, which is just career.
:01:37. > :01:38.I'll be asking Kate Green, who quit the Shadow Cabinet,
:01:39. > :01:49.if the Smith pitch can reach beyond the membership to the voters.
:01:50. > :01:53.Today we had the first evidence that the EU isn't going to sit back
:01:54. > :01:56.and let Britain have the whip hand in the Brexit negotiations -
:01:57. > :01:59.The EU President, Jean Claude Juncker,
:02:00. > :02:02.politician for this difficult job," and Michel Barnier, the former
:02:03. > :02:03.French Foreign Minister, Agriculture Minister,
:02:04. > :02:06.and former EU Commisioner, who led the EU banking
:02:07. > :02:10.He starts his new job on October 1st, ahead of Britain formally
:02:11. > :02:13.notifying the EU of its intent to withdraw using the
:02:14. > :02:20.But should any deal fail even the final default position -
:02:21. > :02:24.resting on the WTO, the World Trade Organisation,
:02:25. > :02:28.Former Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg has told Newsnight
:02:29. > :02:32.that he fears that Britain could be at the mercy of unfriendly nations.
:02:33. > :02:40.Our political editor, Nick Watt, reports.
:02:41. > :02:43.As Europe heads off on its summer holidays, Theresa May has been
:02:44. > :02:49.on something of a charm offensive around the EU.
:02:50. > :02:51.But today, we started to get the first
:02:52. > :02:57.negotiations that will take us out of the European Union, the silver
:02:58. > :03:00.haired former French Foreign Minister, Michel Barnier, was
:03:01. > :03:01.appointed as the European Commission's chief Brexit
:03:02. > :03:05.This raised eyebrows in some circles.
:03:06. > :03:08.Like a lot of people of his generation and his
:03:09. > :03:15.ideological background in France, they feel like the crisis in 2008
:03:16. > :03:20.showed the limits of what they regard as excessive Anglo-Saxon
:03:21. > :03:26.It shows he will not be a pushover when it comes
:03:27. > :03:29.to the Brexit negotiations, not only for the City
:03:30. > :03:38.of London itself, but the UK economy as a whole.
:03:39. > :03:47.Others thought he would be more friendly to the UK. He does not
:03:48. > :03:51.dislike the Brits. He is a good-natured chap, easy going bust
:03:52. > :03:55.up in some ways he will be similar to David Davis, focusing on the big
:03:56. > :04:00.picture, ignoring the details are known what he wants at the start of
:04:01. > :04:04.the negotiation. The appointment showed there was something of a turf
:04:05. > :04:08.war in Brussels over who should take the lead in negotiating Brexit. The
:04:09. > :04:13.commission who appointed him believes it should be in charge of
:04:14. > :04:17.the negotiations in its role as EU Executive and guardian of the
:04:18. > :04:21.treaty. The European Council, representing European heads of state
:04:22. > :04:26.and government believes it should be in the lead. While they were
:04:27. > :04:31.jostling for position in Brussels, in the US, Liam Fox was putting
:04:32. > :04:36.flesh on the bones of the UK's Brexit plan. Britain would leave the
:04:37. > :04:40.EU customs union to allow it to negotiate free-trade deals across
:04:41. > :04:45.the world. Theresa May cautiously endorsed this plan, though she did
:04:46. > :04:51.make it clear she wants to keep her options open on British access to
:04:52. > :04:55.the separate EU single market. We need to ensure we get the best
:04:56. > :05:00.possible deal in relation to trade in goods and services. I am looking
:05:01. > :05:04.at this with an open mind. I think we should be developing a model that
:05:05. > :05:08.suits United Kingdom and the European Union. Not adopting a model
:05:09. > :05:13.that is on the shelf already but saying, what will work for the UK
:05:14. > :05:17.and what will work best for the European Union? Being in the customs
:05:18. > :05:23.union could stop you from negotiating the sort of free trail
:05:24. > :05:30.to use mooted by Liam Fox in the U S. -- free trade deals. Retaining
:05:31. > :05:34.access to the single market would avoid nontariff barriers. The
:05:35. > :05:39.unilateral imposition of regulations. No one has been allowed
:05:40. > :05:43.access to the single market without accepting free movement of people.
:05:44. > :05:51.One leading Brexiteer said the UK must leave both the customs union
:05:52. > :05:56.and the single market to respect the will of the British people. I am on
:05:57. > :06:02.the side of Liam Fox. I think we need to leave the customs union and
:06:03. > :06:07.the single market. We are more than capable of standing on our own two
:06:08. > :06:13.feet. We need to be able to make our own trade deals. That means out must
:06:14. > :06:18.mean out. One former EU trade ingratiating fears if the UK adopts
:06:19. > :06:22.hardball tactics it could face a hard Brexit, where we would fall
:06:23. > :06:29.back on World Trade Organisation rules. He believes a change in UK
:06:30. > :06:33.status could leave us at the mercy of unfriendly countries. Just to
:06:34. > :06:37.show how ferociously complex all of this series, if the United Kingdom
:06:38. > :06:44.to say they want to reset or change the terms of our commitments in the
:06:45. > :06:49.world trade system within the WTO, there are 126 other countries. The
:06:50. > :06:53.whole thing operates by consensus. One of which could basically block
:06:54. > :06:57.the UK's new commitments within the World Trade Organisation if we pull
:06:58. > :07:03.out of the EU. It is now working on a series of papers to highlight the
:07:04. > :07:07.challenge of negotiations. We are moving, I feel, from the initial
:07:08. > :07:12.panic, shock and surprise of the referendum decision to several weeks
:07:13. > :07:17.of almost phoney peace, almost denial, about the consequences of
:07:18. > :07:23.that decision. What we will move to after the holiday break and in
:07:24. > :07:27.September, October, November, when we get the resumption of the season,
:07:28. > :07:33.we will get into a lot of the nitty-gritty. The choice in the
:07:34. > :07:37.referendum had seemed so straightforward. Leave to take back
:07:38. > :07:41.control or remain to avoid economic risk. Making our way in the world
:07:42. > :07:44.now all seems a lot more complicated.
:07:45. > :07:46.I'm joined now in the studio by former Foreign Secretary
:07:47. > :07:49.Malcolm Rifkind and from Philadelphia by Miriam Sapiro, who
:07:50. > :07:51.served as a US Trade Representative and Director of European Affairs
:07:52. > :07:58.on the US National Security Council.
:07:59. > :08:14.Good evening to both of you. First of all, Malcolm Rifkind, let's talk
:08:15. > :08:18.about Michelle -- Michel Bernier. He was the Europe Minister for France
:08:19. > :08:23.when I was Foreign Secretary. He is a tough guy, European federalist by
:08:24. > :08:27.background. Being French he also has a strong protectionist streak. He's
:08:28. > :08:31.not keen on free trade and open borders. However, there is a very
:08:32. > :08:36.important however. The real decisions are not going to be taken
:08:37. > :08:40.either by him or by Liam Fox or David Davis. In our case, you'll be
:08:41. > :08:46.taken by the Cabinet committee, chaired by Theresa May. She will lay
:08:47. > :08:49.down and have more influence anyone else. In the European case, Angela
:08:50. > :08:57.Merkel, President Francois Hollande, they will have a comparable role.
:08:58. > :09:00.The commission does have the responsibility to find the right
:09:01. > :09:05.individual but I'm sure that will have been discussed with others as
:09:06. > :09:11.well. It is a marvellous parallels. Just as Theresa May decided it was
:09:12. > :09:16.good to have three hardline Brexiteers to argue from the UK
:09:17. > :09:20.point of view. They will have to compromise at some stage. From the
:09:21. > :09:23.EU ends, they are perhaps deliberately appointing a pretty
:09:24. > :09:27.strong European and sending a message by saying we're not going to
:09:28. > :09:35.be a soft touch but he will have to compromise as well. You also,
:09:36. > :09:41.extraordinarily, no Michel Bernier as well. What is your impression of
:09:42. > :09:49.him? That's right. We did some negotiations together. Both sides
:09:50. > :09:53.are no doubt trying to figure out how to portray the strongest
:09:54. > :09:56.possible positions. I do not think that will be adopted here. I hope
:09:57. > :10:02.they will each listen to the other side and tried to figure out a win -
:10:03. > :10:08.win scenario for the UK and the rest of the world. I know you are having
:10:09. > :10:11.to fight against the noise of the very excited democratic convention
:10:12. > :10:17.with Barack Obama coming soon. Maybe I will get you to put your
:10:18. > :10:23.microphone quite high up. You are also very much on Hillary Clinton's
:10:24. > :10:29.economic team if she were to become US president. What do you think the
:10:30. > :10:35.attitude would be to Britain? We know there has been an early rebus
:10:36. > :10:39.for Liam Fox. What is the attitude towards doing a deal with the UK,
:10:40. > :10:44.given that there is tough negotiations going on with the whole
:10:45. > :10:47.of the US at the moment? The secretary is so focused right now on
:10:48. > :10:54.the election. I do not know if you can hear me with the background
:10:55. > :10:57.noise. She is totally focused on the campaign and winning the election
:10:58. > :11:01.because the stakes are so high for the United States. We saw what brand
:11:02. > :11:06.recently with Brexit when many voters woke up the next morning and
:11:07. > :11:10.were not quite sure what was going on and what had happened. We are
:11:11. > :11:15.hoping that will not be the situation here and voters will pay
:11:16. > :11:21.attention now to what is at stake. You will remember that during the EU
:11:22. > :11:26.referendum campaign, Barack Obama was enlisted as it were up by David
:11:27. > :11:31.Cameron and came over to the UK and said, if there were a vote to leave,
:11:32. > :11:37.Britain would go to the back of a cube in terms of a trade deal. Is
:11:38. > :11:43.that just part of the US contribution to project fear? --
:11:44. > :11:46.back of the queue. I think he was pointing out the difficulties
:11:47. > :11:54.inherent with a vote to leave. He has been a strong Atlanticist, as
:11:55. > :11:59.has the secretary, when she served as his representative. I think he
:12:00. > :12:04.was honest in suggesting that the UK voters think twice about the
:12:05. > :12:09.importance of this decision. I think now that the decision has been made,
:12:10. > :12:14.and the Prime Minister has reiterated she is determined to see
:12:15. > :12:21.what she can do to ensure there will be a strong UK no matter what, I
:12:22. > :12:26.think it has changed in that there will have to be discussions between
:12:27. > :12:29.the US and the UK as to what their future trade relationship could look
:12:30. > :12:35.like. To think it could be a positive outcome for the UK in terms
:12:36. > :12:39.of trade relationship with the US? I do think so. The whole issue is
:12:40. > :12:46.terribly, but hated. It wouldn't be that hard to engage in -- envision a
:12:47. > :12:52.trade agreement win the US and the UK done relatively quickly given
:12:53. > :13:02.that both economies are already barely open. They both take an open
:13:03. > :13:07.perspective on the lies a. They both have a strong advantage in services.
:13:08. > :13:13.Malcolm Rifkind, it is all about the negotiation now. Do you agree that
:13:14. > :13:20.actually Britain could have an advantageous position regarding the
:13:21. > :13:24.US? It could. That is not the ultimate question at this stage. A
:13:25. > :13:27.decision as we taken by the British government as to whether it wants to
:13:28. > :13:32.have some kind of customs union because, if you have a customs
:13:33. > :13:38.union, that means you have a common external tariff. Neither Britain nor
:13:39. > :13:44.the EU can have separate trade deals with other countries. What does that
:13:45. > :13:48.mean in terms of Liam Fox's hardline position coming like a greyhound out
:13:49. > :13:55.of the tracks today? It is premature. The first decision that
:13:56. > :13:58.have to be made is what with the United Kingdom government ideally
:13:59. > :14:02.like? It is not just up to them. They then have to consider, is it at
:14:03. > :14:09.all likely that the EU will give subversion compromises to make that
:14:10. > :14:15.possible? You trigger Article 50 in 18 months, and in that 18 month
:14:16. > :14:20.period, two years, we are trading our way and getting our position
:14:21. > :14:26.out. At the same time, the UK is preparing to do the deals under FTA
:14:27. > :14:31.or whatever it is. A lot of work has to be done on working not just on
:14:32. > :14:35.what we would ideally like but one of the most probable outcomes of a
:14:36. > :14:39.negotiation with the United States, for example, or with China or India,
:14:40. > :14:43.and how that would compare with what we might get from the European
:14:44. > :14:53.Union, given half our traders with them. You have Liam Fox and David
:14:54. > :14:55.Davis, strong characters. Can Theresa May exert discipline?
:14:56. > :15:00.Absolutely. Boris Johnson will not be as hardline as the other two. His
:15:01. > :15:05.views are more nuanced as to whether we could have some sort of movement
:15:06. > :15:09.of people into the UK from other European countries. The other two
:15:10. > :15:14.will be more hardline. A decision on other taken by any individual but by
:15:15. > :15:17.the Kavanagh and Theresa May will have the main influence.
:15:18. > :15:20.Labour's summer civil war is being fought by two men trying
:15:21. > :15:22.to out-left each other on the left of the party.
:15:23. > :15:24.But today the challenger, Owen Smith, delivered
:15:25. > :15:27.a speech in which he tried to steal a march on Jeremy Corbyn
:15:28. > :15:29.by actually coming up with policies -
:15:30. > :15:31.tax the rich, end the public sector pay freeze,
:15:32. > :15:33.scrap the Department of Work and Pensions and pour
:15:34. > :15:36.But wouldn't Jeremy Corbyn say the same?
:15:37. > :15:42.Our Political Editor, Nick Watt, is here.
:15:43. > :15:51.So he makes this speech today, and what happens? Owen Smith was here on
:15:52. > :16:00.Monday night, and we asked him to put flesh on his ideas, so then he
:16:01. > :16:06.went away and then his message was, I can be as radical as Jeremy
:16:07. > :16:11.Corbyn, but more radical possibly, because I can actually deliver. So
:16:12. > :16:17.you heard about those tax increases and a tax on wealth. He was casting
:16:18. > :16:18.himself as a realistic revolutionary, unlike Jeremy Corbyn.
:16:19. > :16:22.This is what he had to say. We need a revolution
:16:23. > :16:24.but not some misty-eyed, romantic notion of a revolution,
:16:25. > :16:26.where we are going to overthrow capitalism and return
:16:27. > :16:30.to a socialist nirvana. But a cold-eyed, practical,
:16:31. > :16:50.Socialist revolution. How did that go down? At one level,
:16:51. > :16:54.Owen Smith is pursuing a sensible strategy. Jeremy Corbyn is admired
:16:55. > :16:58.by the Labour grassroots, and Owen Smith knows that if he's going to
:16:59. > :17:05.win, he's got to show that he's tacking to the left. But he has two
:17:06. > :17:10.challenges - has he consistently been radical, and he was here the
:17:11. > :17:16.other night talking about being in favour of choice in the NHS. And if
:17:17. > :17:22.he has been radical since the day he was born in Wales, people might say,
:17:23. > :17:28.why don't I vote for the real radical thing, Jeremy Corbyn? And he
:17:29. > :17:33.did make a slip up today. He did. He was trying to say that he was the
:17:34. > :17:35.true guardian and representative of workers' rights, and not Theresa
:17:36. > :17:38.May. This is what he said. Theresa May even had the temerity,
:17:39. > :17:42.I don't know if you saw it, at PMQs ten days ago, a week ago today
:17:43. > :17:45.in fact, to lecture Labour. Lecturing Labour on social injustice
:17:46. > :17:47.or insecurity at work. I'll be honest with you,
:17:48. > :17:50.it pains me that we didn't have the strength, the power
:17:51. > :17:53.and the vitality, to smash her back on her heels and argue that these
:17:54. > :17:58.are our values. Well, as Labour fight amongst
:17:59. > :18:03.themselves, what about the people who used to be regarded
:18:04. > :18:05.as their core support? At the time of the Brexit vote,
:18:06. > :18:08.Nicolas Blakemore went to Burnley to talk to people there about how
:18:09. > :18:11.they view the political revolution Mr Corbyn has refused to step down
:18:12. > :18:22.since losing the support of most Len McCluskey accused those trying
:18:23. > :18:27.to remove Jeremy Corbyn I voted Labour because
:18:28. > :18:37.my parents voted Labour, And I think they did used to be
:18:38. > :18:41.for the working class. Nigel Farage wants what's best
:18:42. > :18:56.for this country first, We have to take so many in,
:18:57. > :19:02.refugees. I feel sorry for them,
:19:03. > :19:04.I really, honestly do, but what about when you go
:19:05. > :19:07.to Manchester on a night out and all them people
:19:08. > :19:09.sat there homeless? They've got tents, haven't they,
:19:10. > :19:17.not far from Piccadilly? I think there's some foreign people
:19:18. > :19:22.who have come to this country These foreign people come in,
:19:23. > :19:31.because they've been let in. They get shopping vouchers
:19:32. > :19:34.to get their shopping. They get priority over anything
:19:35. > :19:42.that we get, and even when they're working,
:19:43. > :19:44.they still get benefits If you've put that
:19:45. > :19:59.through on the 10th, The Tories have really,
:20:00. > :20:07.really gone to town. We've actually got food banks around
:20:08. > :20:09.here, and people who What do you think about
:20:10. > :20:19.Jeremy Corbyn? So he is the current Leader
:20:20. > :20:28.of the Labour Party. To be honest, I don't know
:20:29. > :20:32.much about him at all. Since he was in power,
:20:33. > :20:39.I've absolutely taken no notice of the Labour Party whatsoever,
:20:40. > :20:44.because he were just a joke, really. He did numerous things,
:20:45. > :20:47.that there was the issue and he was calling the woman
:20:48. > :21:02.bigoted and whatnot. And I think that lost Labour
:21:03. > :21:08.a lot of votes. I always voted Labour
:21:09. > :21:10.because my mum and dad did, and my grandparents did,
:21:11. > :21:13.so I just followed suit. I feel like Labour are just
:21:14. > :21:19.bothered about Labour. So the council are all happy
:21:20. > :21:24.and well paid and looked after, I think they are just
:21:25. > :21:29.like the rest of the parties now. They don't seem to bother
:21:30. > :21:44.about the working class. I've just been watching
:21:45. > :21:48.the news, just now, talking about Jeremy Corbyn not even,
:21:49. > :21:51.possibly not even being able I don't actually listen to them
:21:52. > :21:59.any more, to be honest. I don't support Jeremy Corbyn,
:22:00. > :22:01.but, to me, it looks a bit like a stitch up,
:22:02. > :22:04.rather than a Parliamentary party. Who's going to be the Leader
:22:05. > :22:07.of the Labour Party? And when will they
:22:08. > :22:09.find out? It will probably be on the news
:22:10. > :22:14.tomorrow, and then we will see When I was young, we had
:22:15. > :22:23.mining and cotton mills and everything around here,
:22:24. > :22:26.loads of factories. You've spoken about what jobs used
:22:27. > :22:35.to be available in Burnley, but now anybody around my age who's
:22:36. > :22:40.not gone through the education system basically
:22:41. > :22:47.is looking at agency work. It's like the modern day lining up
:22:48. > :22:53.at the Liverpool Docks to get picked for a day's work,
:22:54. > :22:56.is agency work. When I left school, I was 15,
:22:57. > :23:03.and I had a job at a sewing place And I were only there for a morning
:23:04. > :23:10.and they were asking me, And I walked out of there,
:23:11. > :23:19.went and had an interview somewhere else, and started
:23:20. > :23:22.another job the day after. Now, you're struggling to get a job,
:23:23. > :23:34.and if you do get one, you've to stick at it
:23:35. > :23:39.whether you like it or you don't. The Labour Party say
:23:40. > :23:42.that they want to address this These people don't live
:23:43. > :23:47.in the real world. These people are in a career
:23:48. > :23:50.of politics. And you're seeing the game now
:23:51. > :23:54.with the Labour Party, They're just showing theirself
:23:55. > :23:58.for what they actually are, Well, joining me now is Kate Green,
:23:59. > :24:28.the Labour MP who is chairing Good evening. You heard that view
:24:29. > :24:33.from Burnley. People don't know who Jeremy Corbyn is, much less Owen
:24:34. > :24:37.Smith. And that goes back a decade. Isn't the problem that you've taken
:24:38. > :24:43.people for granted so long, they are just going to go to Ukip? I think
:24:44. > :24:48.people are very angry, very fearful, very worried about the future for
:24:49. > :24:53.themselves and their families. That over very powerfully in the
:24:54. > :24:57.conversations we've just been listening to. But it's also
:24:58. > :25:02.important to realise that we've got to be honest about what can be done,
:25:03. > :25:06.and the lies that people were being told during the referendum campaign
:25:07. > :25:13.about money being available for the NHS, for example, that were not
:25:14. > :25:17.true, and the proven not to be true, are going to make them further
:25:18. > :25:25.disillusioned and disbelieving in politics. Today, Owen Smith made 20
:25:26. > :25:31.policy pledges. They were on the economy, on taxation... What are
:25:32. > :25:36.they going to cost? More money for the NHS, ending public sector pay
:25:37. > :25:41.freeze... Where is the cost? It's important to understand not just how
:25:42. > :25:46.much they're going to cost, but how they will be paid for. That goes to
:25:47. > :25:51.the heart of what Owen was saying this morning, about our country
:25:52. > :25:55.having become very an equal. We are one of the richest countries in the
:25:56. > :26:00.world, but the money is concentrated in the hands of the very small
:26:01. > :26:06.number of people. Owen talk today about a wealth tax that would enable
:26:07. > :26:14.us to put money into the NHS. 20 billion. You will get that from a
:26:15. > :26:18.wealth tax? I don't think we are saying it is possible to put our
:26:19. > :26:23.country back on its feet and regenerate the communities we just
:26:24. > :26:27.been seeing in Burnley without understanding the money that is
:26:28. > :26:32.concentrated in the hands of wealthier people and organisations
:26:33. > :26:37.needs to be distributed, but also, Owen has talked about an investment
:26:38. > :26:41.programme, funded by borrowing, buy government bonds, to get our
:26:42. > :26:46.communities back on their feet. Listening to people in Burnley
:26:47. > :26:49.there, one of the big issues for people was immigration. Owen was
:26:50. > :26:55.very critical of Jeremy Corbyn, saying he did not address
:26:56. > :27:01.immigration properly. This was his first policy speech, and not a word
:27:02. > :27:05.about immigration. Why not? Different communities have different
:27:06. > :27:09.experiences of immigration. But this was a speech to the nation saying
:27:10. > :27:12.why people should vote for him on the left and not Jeremy Corbyn, and
:27:13. > :27:18.he didn't mention immigration, having criticised Jeremy Corbyn for
:27:19. > :27:22.not doing it. People in Burnley are feeling about the pressure on their
:27:23. > :27:28.public services. They are worried about immigration! They are talking
:27:29. > :27:33.about immigration, but they are worried about a deeper sense of
:27:34. > :27:37.insecurity for themselves, about jobs not being available. We heard
:27:38. > :27:42.them talking about the council not looking after the local area. So
:27:43. > :27:47.people do talk about immigration, at the deeper worry they feel is
:27:48. > :27:51.because of the inequality in this country, which leaves them feeling
:27:52. > :27:56.shut out of our prosperity. You've heard them saying what they think,
:27:57. > :28:02.and you say, what they really feel is. Isn't that the problems? People
:28:03. > :28:07.are saying that Labour are not listening to them and feeling their
:28:08. > :28:12.pain, they are career politicians. You didn't talk about welfare, just
:28:13. > :28:16.lots more money for the economy, and yet nothing chimes with people
:28:17. > :28:22.because they don't believe you. I am sure Owen will talk about more
:28:23. > :28:26.issues during this campaign. If an communities have different
:28:27. > :28:30.experiences of immigration. Some communities are accustomed to many
:28:31. > :28:37.new arrivals coming in among them, hats seasonal work, hats over many
:28:38. > :28:42.decades where there have been new communities arriving. Others do not
:28:43. > :28:47.have that experience. It is very important that we listen to what
:28:48. > :28:51.people are saying... This is not about the 600,000. It is the 11
:28:52. > :28:57.million you will have two attractive the ballot box. You will have to
:28:58. > :29:05.attract people who are voting Tory now. The single thing that separates
:29:06. > :29:11.Owen Smith from Jeremy Corbyn that people would actually vote for.
:29:12. > :29:15.People are frightened and worried in my constituency, feeling insecure
:29:16. > :29:21.about jobs, public services and the NHS. Owen talked about those things
:29:22. > :29:26.today. But the prospectus that Owen Smith is putting out today is no
:29:27. > :29:31.different from Jeremy Corbyn's it was regarded as being toxic a year
:29:32. > :29:37.ago. It looks like Owen Smith wants to out left Jeremy Corbyn. Why did
:29:38. > :29:41.he not vote for Jeremy Corbyn a year ago? It is not a question of whether
:29:42. > :29:47.they share values, because I think they do. It is about whether they
:29:48. > :29:51.have tangible solutions and concrete proposals to put these ideas and
:29:52. > :29:55.values into practice. It's important to say that this country isn't at
:29:56. > :30:01.ease with itself. People are worried. They feel divided. They
:30:02. > :30:07.feel a lack of confidence in the future. Owen's belief to address
:30:08. > :30:08.that is to invest in our communities and our people, and that is what
:30:09. > :30:12.voters want to hear. Thank you. Now to the Democrat convention
:30:13. > :30:14.in Philadelpia, where a pumped-up crowd are waiting for
:30:15. > :30:16.President Obama. The milestone marked
:30:17. > :30:23.by Hillary Clinton in this hall last night is a moment of history -
:30:24. > :30:29.albeit one that seems - to many in the rest of the world -
:30:30. > :30:32.to have taken a long time coming. She reached her delegate
:30:33. > :30:34.count when South Dakota But the jaw-dropping moment
:30:35. > :30:43.of the night came when her arch-rival Bernie Sanders appeared
:30:44. > :30:46.in the hall to declare the end of the counting
:30:47. > :30:48.and nominate her himself - a move that matched her own
:30:49. > :30:51.concession eight years Words, then and now,
:30:52. > :30:53.which speak volumes The convention here has been
:30:54. > :31:12.a tightly choreographed affair - with little mention
:31:13. > :31:14.of her Republican rival. But today, Trump himself muscled in,
:31:15. > :31:20.calling on Russia to hack Clinton's e-mails - a controversy
:31:21. > :31:22.which still raises questions This is the sound that Hillary's
:31:23. > :31:27.oft-quoted glass ceiling makes I am sensing this is
:31:28. > :31:32.the greatest thing that has Each state taking a lyrical
:31:33. > :31:49.moment in the sun to offer Their bigotry is tired,
:31:50. > :31:51.their attacks are uninspired. So, Mike Pence and Donald Trump,
:31:52. > :31:54.you are officially fired. I moved that the convention suspend
:31:55. > :31:59.the procedural rules... In the end, the counting though
:32:00. > :32:02.was brought to a swift close This is the moment we've all been
:32:03. > :32:09.waiting for at convention. Bernie Sanders hinted earlier today
:32:10. > :32:12.he wouldn't be the one nominating He's taken to the floor as a show
:32:13. > :32:21.of endorsement to encourage all his supporters to fall
:32:22. > :32:25.in line behind him. Governor of New York Andrew Cuomo
:32:26. > :32:28.had spent time earlier with Sanders, I had him with me this morning
:32:29. > :32:36.and we were chatting. I knew he was working very hard
:32:37. > :32:40.to unify the convention. He had to get his delegates
:32:41. > :32:45.to agree. Sometimes, the delegates can get
:32:46. > :32:48.so fired up about something that even when the leader says,
:32:49. > :32:51.we're going left, That evening, her husband,
:32:52. > :33:04.Bill Clinton, tried to show the Hillary he'd long known,
:33:05. > :33:07.talking of challenges she'd faced without explicitly stating his part
:33:08. > :33:11.in creating some of them. One of her oldest friends,
:33:12. > :33:13.Lanny Davis, knew her I first met Hillary when her last
:33:14. > :33:19.name was Rodham, before So, over all those yeras,
:33:20. > :33:24.there have been ups and downs. She has always struggled and fought
:33:25. > :33:27.and never given up, been knocked As a woman, women are accustomed to
:33:28. > :33:36.that a lot. She's never given up as long
:33:37. > :33:40.as I've known her. Did you ever doubt she would get to
:33:41. > :33:44.this point? The first five minutes I met her,
:33:45. > :33:48.I thought to myself, after saying goodbye,
:33:49. > :33:50.it was the first day I've just met the first female
:33:51. > :33:57.President of the United States. Make no mistake, this electoral
:33:58. > :34:04.circus has only just begun. Today, Donald Trump endeavoured
:34:05. > :34:08.to exploit Clinton's electoral vulnerability,
:34:09. > :34:11.encouraging Russia to What does Jerry Springer,
:34:12. > :34:16.a man who's made a day job This is the first time in American
:34:17. > :34:25.history we've ever had someone running for president who is opposed
:34:26. > :34:29.to the idea of America. The whole concept of America
:34:30. > :34:34.is the Statue of Liberty. Now, all of a sudden,
:34:35. > :34:37.we have someone who wants, in a sense, to replace
:34:38. > :34:39.it by building a wall, That is so un-American,
:34:40. > :34:44.it's embarrassing. He won the Republican Primaries,
:34:45. > :34:48.he did not yet face Now, if I'm wrong, he'll run this
:34:49. > :34:57.state come November but I think in November the American people
:34:58. > :34:59.won't vote for Donald Well, joining me is Xavier Becerra,
:35:00. > :35:19.Chair of the Democratic Caucus Very nice of you to join us. I want
:35:20. > :35:25.to start with those comments by Donald Trump, calling on Russia to
:35:26. > :35:31.expose -- expose Hillary Clinton's thing e-mails. I have never seen a
:35:32. > :35:41.candidate or nominee for president engaging in criminal activity,
:35:42. > :35:48.hacking cyber crimes and do it for an American company. It is another
:35:49. > :35:51.sign how Donald Trump is not fit to be president or commander-in-chief.
:35:52. > :35:56.That message was not really to Putin, it was to the American
:35:57. > :36:00.people. He knows this carries weight, the whole issue of
:36:01. > :36:03.trustworthiness will be hard. If you want to communicate something, do it
:36:04. > :36:12.the right way. Do not break the laws. It is very dangerous. He has
:36:13. > :36:17.made many dangerous statements. This is just another. The recent action
:36:18. > :36:25.of abandoning Nato was another reckless thing done by Donald Trump.
:36:26. > :36:32.There have been another of other dangerous statements made. At some
:36:33. > :36:41.point, one should become president, you are going to be shooting with
:36:42. > :36:48.live bullets. The worry for people now is, people may just decide to
:36:49. > :36:55.stay at home. If they do not like what they are hearing from either
:36:56. > :37:03.side. You look at this crowd you look at the energy which has been
:37:04. > :37:07.here. That is not this crowd. It will be the start of the actual
:37:08. > :37:15.election campaign. This is where it begins. You always have the forward
:37:16. > :37:19.guard. They are the events team. They are die-hard supporters. They
:37:20. > :37:26.get out there and others start to pay attention. Before you know it,
:37:27. > :37:32.people realise this is real. We have a guy who is telling Russia to
:37:33. > :37:39.engage in cyber crimes in the US. It is real. I was a little worried
:37:40. > :37:44.about what was happening in Great Britain recently with the Brexit
:37:45. > :37:49.vote, I have confidence in America. People will vote for the best
:37:50. > :37:55.interests of this country. What do you do to reach people, for example,
:37:56. > :38:03.the Hispanic vote, he might choose not to bother? Let them realise you
:38:04. > :38:09.are not just an image on the street. It is important because there is
:38:10. > :38:16.cynicism to the end. We get it back and we do not understand. We do not
:38:17. > :38:29.understand how people would hack our system. We have to connect again.
:38:30. > :38:39.Thank you very much indeed. Hillary Clinton is a very clever operator.
:38:40. > :38:43.Clearly working out the people she needs to breach now are Hispanics,
:38:44. > :38:47.rather than appointing Bernie Sanders. She knows in the end you
:38:48. > :38:52.will probably get their support anyway. Probably.
:38:53. > :39:03.Thank you, Amelie. The Daily Telegraph, working in an office is
:39:04. > :39:11.as bad as smoking. Daily Express puts a picture of Michel Barnier on
:39:12. > :39:19.the front page. The UK economy begins to feel the Brexit tremors.
:39:20. > :39:24.An attack about Clinton e-mails in the Guardian. The serious business
:39:25. > :39:31.Brexit and two recent may joins a light moment with the counterpart.
:39:32. > :39:41.The big story in the Times. Scientists create the first drug to
:39:42. > :39:46.halt Alzheimer's disease. That is almost it for tonight. If you have
:39:47. > :39:53.had not enough disturbing news for this month, look away now. The
:39:54. > :40:00.Siberian Times reports that scientists are finding jelly holes,
:40:01. > :40:03.large bubbles containing the greenhouse super gas, methane. They
:40:04. > :40:08.are performing above the Arctic tundra. It is not known if climate
:40:09. > :40:16.change is the cause but hundreds, if not thousands of gigatons of the gas
:40:17. > :40:55.light frozen in the permafrost. Look at this and sleep well.
:40:56. > :41:04.Some rain and sunshine. A bright start across eastern counties. That
:41:05. > :41:09.rain will arrive later on in the day. It will stay damp for much of
:41:10. > :41:15.the day across Northern Ireland and southern Scotland and it will
:41:16. > :41:19.consequently be quite cool. Chance of showers in the far north. Damp
:41:20. > :41:21.and dreary in the north of England.