:00:00. > :00:11.The Games of the 30th Olympiad in 2012 are awarded
:00:12. > :00:17.Our principle is to deliver a lasting, sporting legacy.
:00:18. > :00:21.Our Olympics will give the East End of London the huge regenerative
:00:22. > :00:30.It's a job creator, it's a growth generator.
:00:31. > :00:33.Our aim is to inspire young people across Britain
:00:34. > :00:34.and the world to take up sport.
:00:35. > :00:43.The stadium will be a purpose-built home for athletics
:00:44. > :00:58.I would say the legacy is a success on every level.
:00:59. > :01:09.Two days to go until the Rio Olympics opens.
:01:10. > :01:15.This time four years ago, the excitement and the trepidation and
:01:16. > :01:24.the Yanks at that things would go well. It did. Was the economics
:01:25. > :01:29.worth it and why are fewer cities coming forward to offer to host. We
:01:30. > :01:37.will hear from Dame Kelly Holmes, Dame Tessa Jarrell when we ask if
:01:38. > :01:48.London 2012 succeeded in inspiring a new generation into sport.
:01:49. > :01:57.Inspire a generation became an mantra of the London 2012 Olympics.
:01:58. > :02:03.Go back to 2005 and the promise lake at the heart of London's pitch to
:02:04. > :02:10.host The Games. And it worked. With London overhauling its main rival,
:02:11. > :02:13.Paris in the final vote. The 2012 organisers and the Coalition
:02:14. > :02:20.Government made two specific promises. The first centred on
:02:21. > :02:22.harnessing Britain's passion for sport to increase grassroots
:02:23. > :02:27.participation and to encourage the whole population to be more
:02:28. > :02:31.physically active. The other focused on promoting community engagement
:02:32. > :02:37.and achieving participation across all groups in society through The
:02:38. > :02:44.Games. Has the legacy been achieved? Keep your hand up higher. In 2011 in
:02:45. > :02:49.Tower Hamlets, surrounded by Olympic venues, there was a sense of
:02:50. > :02:54.optimism. In terms of Olympic legacy, it is here, we are
:02:55. > :02:59.delivering it. In terms of the promises about youth and
:03:00. > :03:02.participation, we are here doing it. That was christened Willits speaking
:03:03. > :03:08.a year before London hosted The Games. Five years on, I went back to
:03:09. > :03:13.ask him if the legacy had lived on. We had everything in place to be
:03:14. > :03:22.able to deliver probably the best legacy there had been to any Olympic
:03:23. > :03:24.Games ever. But since pretty much when the Olympics came into town,
:03:25. > :03:27.we've just been fighting for survival. That sense of lost
:03:28. > :03:32.opportunity is rooted in the scrapping of the school sports
:03:33. > :03:36.partnership. ?162 million of annual government funding, which was
:03:37. > :03:42.withdrawn shortly before The Games began. It has been partially
:03:43. > :03:46.replaced, but critics point to the inconsistencies in house School
:03:47. > :03:51.sport is now provided. In Tower Hamlets, there is pride access to
:03:52. > :03:55.sport that the children is continuing and achieving tangible
:03:56. > :04:04.success, despite the cuts. What is it about sport you like? I adore it,
:04:05. > :04:10.it is my favourite thing in my life. I do sport a lot and this is the
:04:11. > :04:13.best sports I have ever done. When you watched some of the Olympics on
:04:14. > :04:17.TV, did it make you think you could definitely do that? Yes. When Tom
:04:18. > :04:22.Daley did the dive and he landed on his back. That's not a recollection
:04:23. > :04:26.Tom Daley would share, having won a bronze medal. These kids are
:04:27. > :04:32.enjoying their school summer sports, but it is this kind of activity that
:04:33. > :04:36.convinced the IOC in 2005 to give London the 2012 games. They were
:04:37. > :04:42.convinced by the organisers' claims of creating a fitter, healthier
:04:43. > :04:50.nation. But when you look back to when the bid was one, and then to
:04:51. > :04:56.2012 when The Games took place. 15.8 million adults play sport or
:04:57. > :05:00.exercise once a week. An extra 1.7 million to 2005. Since 2012, the
:05:01. > :05:05.numbers have fallen by just under half of 1%. The biggest decline
:05:06. > :05:10.among ethnic minorities and economically deprived groups. The
:05:11. > :05:15.overall Olympic budget was ?9.3 billion. The huge proportion going
:05:16. > :05:20.towards regenerating a large area of east London. Money was diverted
:05:21. > :05:25.towards building a sporting legacy however, with 100 35mm pounds of
:05:26. > :05:28.lottery funding spent on facilities, protecting playing fields and
:05:29. > :05:33.volunteering programmes and extending access to Olympic sports.
:05:34. > :05:37.Our ambition was sky-high, and so it should have been. The recession did
:05:38. > :05:44.have an effect, but if you look at the picture across the piece, you
:05:45. > :05:48.can't do anything but agree that the London Olympics was a huge success
:05:49. > :05:51.for sport in this country. It transformed our reputation
:05:52. > :05:56.internationally. The point of this was the future generations and it
:05:57. > :05:59.was going to cost a lot of money, no doubt about that. It was going to be
:06:00. > :06:05.quite disruptive in many ways. But the point was it would improve us as
:06:06. > :06:14.a country. It provided a very nice summer party, and that is it. A ?9
:06:15. > :06:20.billion party? At least. Persuading adults to take up sport is a
:06:21. > :06:23.continuing process. Sport England's campaign has one post-Olympic
:06:24. > :06:30.effort, said to have convinced around 1.6 million women to start
:06:31. > :06:35.exercising. The lead sport is yielding significant results, Team
:06:36. > :06:41.GB helps to win 48 medals at the Rio games. With 64% of over 16 is doing
:06:42. > :06:45.no sport or exercise, it seems changing mindsets and delivering
:06:46. > :06:51.London's promise for all, is still a long way off. But, there is always
:06:52. > :06:56.hope. What do you watch and think, I can definitely do that? Going round
:06:57. > :06:58.the track. I saw the great British runners running round and I thought,
:06:59. > :07:02.I can definitely do that. Let's talk to Dame Tessa Jowell,
:07:03. > :07:21.Dame Kelly Holmes and Debbie Jevans, Dame Kelly, this tag line was about
:07:22. > :07:26.inspiring a new generation, did it do that? Is it too early to look
:07:27. > :07:30.back and see if it has been achieved? I have always come to the
:07:31. > :07:34.assumption that legacy is a long-term effect. Having been
:07:35. > :07:40.interactive with lots of people in my years and especially in previous
:07:41. > :07:45.years, I have seen a big impact over that time. I am somebody now who
:07:46. > :07:50.isn't in elite sport, but wants to keep fit and active and I am trying
:07:51. > :07:54.to engage with communities to do that. So the mass participation
:07:55. > :07:59.events I have seen improve and get more people into sport, have been
:08:00. > :08:05.something I have seen as an ongoing effect of what legacy is. So the
:08:06. > :08:11.visibility is there of these high impact events, but what is your
:08:12. > :08:14.sense, Tessa Jowell, we had from Hugh Robertson who said it is
:08:15. > :08:23.impossible to disagree it was a huge success for sport in this country,
:08:24. > :08:25.do you share that? I do in part. 19 major World Championships between
:08:26. > :08:36.now and 2020 will be hosted in London. What we failed to do, what
:08:37. > :08:40.the Coalition Government did, was to destroy the school sports programme
:08:41. > :08:44.that was on course to seeing the majority of children playing at
:08:45. > :08:52.least five hours of sport every week. Choosing from 14 different
:08:53. > :09:00.sports, renewed facilities and proper coaching. So, we started in
:09:01. > :09:07.2002, 20 5% of children playing two hours of sport a week. By the time
:09:08. > :09:13.we got to 2010 and the change of government, 60% of children were
:09:14. > :09:18.playing five hours or more and 98% of children were playing at least
:09:19. > :09:21.two hours of sport. And that was the infrastructure to drive this
:09:22. > :09:25.transformation of a generation through sport and the Coalition
:09:26. > :09:30.Government dismantled it. When you look at the numbers, as sports
:09:31. > :09:36.director of London 2012, we have plateaued and even fallen as a
:09:37. > :09:49.nation and participation in sport, it is
:09:50. > :09:53.incredible, isn't it? It is incredible, but it is good. If you
:09:54. > :09:55.look at Athens, and what has happened in Sydney, the fact we have
:09:56. > :09:59.maintained the levels we had in 2012 is a positive thing. Is that right,
:10:00. > :10:03.no city in specs to increase their participation and our benchmark is
:10:04. > :10:07.Athens? Our benchmark is 14 million. That is when the change of
:10:08. > :10:11.investment started and Tessa was a part of that as well. We are up to
:10:12. > :10:16.maintaining the levels we had in 2012. Tessa makes the point of what
:10:17. > :10:21.happened in schools. That is vital we do continue to invest in those
:10:22. > :10:27.and that is what is happening in line to the school games, which is
:10:28. > :10:33.another thing that is important. If you dedicate the money, it is not
:10:34. > :10:39.spent on sport, so you have to ring fenced it in schools and beyond. I
:10:40. > :10:46.was a national school sport champion for three years 2005 to 2008 and I
:10:47. > :10:53.saw how schools were empowering young people into sport. But with
:10:54. > :10:57.2012, what happened for me, was the enormity of what school brought. The
:10:58. > :11:01.set of it just being athletics, football and those high profile
:11:02. > :11:06.sports, what happened from 2012 is it encourage people to see that
:11:07. > :11:11.sport is for anybody. What you have seen the likes of handball, an
:11:12. > :11:18.unknown sport has been rising out of the water because of 2012. Cycling,
:11:19. > :11:22.as a sports. If you look back at 2008, it wasn't really well-known,
:11:23. > :11:28.now you get a three days festival, which I have just done, ride London.
:11:29. > :11:31.Shouldn't it worry you we are seeing a decline in economically deprived
:11:32. > :11:39.groups, ethnic minority groups? It is also part of the legacy? I agree
:11:40. > :11:45.with that, and there are barriers to entry in some communities. My trust
:11:46. > :11:49.works with a lot of areas of depravation and they want to do it,
:11:50. > :11:54.but they haven't got the resources or the funding. In some areas they
:11:55. > :11:59.don't have the infrastructure. London is very lucky and privileged
:12:00. > :12:03.as a city. We see other cities hosting big games, very privileged.
:12:04. > :12:08.You go to other areas and they are not feeling it. Was the ambition too
:12:09. > :12:18.high? It was sky-high, maybe RIBA unrealistic? The ambition was not
:12:19. > :12:22.too high. Until 2010 everybody showed working together across
:12:23. > :12:27.party, the ambition was achievable. Would it have been different under a
:12:28. > :12:30.Labour government? I think it would have been different had the
:12:31. > :12:37.Coalition Government been misguided. I don't want to make this too
:12:38. > :12:40.partisan, had they not been so misguided and said, we will remove
:12:41. > :12:47.the ring fence, the dedicated funding that goes into schools. I
:12:48. > :12:52.accept the work being done at sport England, which I clearly believe is
:12:53. > :12:56.excellent and we will not get into a debate. I was delivering The Games
:12:57. > :13:02.when it was happening. But ?9,000 was going into every primary school,
:13:03. > :13:06.there is still funding. What is important, if we look to an active
:13:07. > :13:11.nation, which is what the ambition is now, it is also the way that
:13:12. > :13:17.sport is being coached in schools. Kelly, you are a talented athlete,
:13:18. > :13:22.you enjoyed it. A lot of children are put off. It is not just about
:13:23. > :13:27.the money, it is about the way it is coached. It is an emphasis of the
:13:28. > :13:32.child thinks that I can do it. It is a big part of what is being rolled
:13:33. > :13:36.out now. We are going to talk about the money next.
:13:37. > :13:39.A newly-reinvigorated sporting nation was not the only
:13:40. > :13:42.There was also the promise of an East London renaissance.
:13:43. > :13:43.The facilities, the housing, the regeneration.
:13:44. > :13:46.The Olympic Park itself is well used and well liked -
:13:47. > :13:51.Nor is it Montreal, the byword for post-Olympic financial disaster.
:13:52. > :13:54.But a lot of the long-term plans for the area - West Ham moving
:13:55. > :13:58.into the Olympic Stadium or UCL opening a new site in East London,
:13:59. > :14:02.Chris Cook has been piecing together what we can say right now
:14:03. > :14:09.about London 2012's long-term economic legacy.
:14:10. > :14:18.7,000 pigeons circle the stadium before carrying the news
:14:19. > :14:26.The Olympics can be a very expensive enterprise.
:14:27. > :14:29.The Russian Sochi Winter Games in 2014, according
:14:30. > :14:32.to official estimates, cost 51 billion US dollars.
:14:33. > :14:42.The Beijing Summer Games in 2008, cost around 40 billion US dollars.
:14:43. > :14:45.Compared to them, the cost of the London 2012 Games
:14:46. > :14:59.The building of new offices and a higher education
:15:00. > :15:03.campus in Stratford, for example, are still not complete.
:15:04. > :15:07.One argument for the economic benefits of the Olympics
:15:08. > :15:10.is they give political cover to do things that people
:15:11. > :15:18.The Barcelona Games in 1992 were considered successful,
:15:19. > :15:21.but they were used as a pretext to implant parts of an urban
:15:22. > :15:25.redevelopment plan first drawn up in 1976.
:15:26. > :15:30.In London's case though, we built some useful
:15:31. > :15:33.things, like housing, but the Olympics where
:15:34. > :15:34.things, like housing, but the Olympics were
:15:35. > :15:38.the aim of much of our investment, not a pretext.
:15:39. > :15:40.That might help explain why earnings are not improving fast
:15:41. > :15:44.enough in the Olympic area to catch up with the rest of London.
:15:45. > :15:45.Nor the employment rate, nor adult skill levels,
:15:46. > :15:51.Barcelona had another economic advantage -
:15:52. > :15:54.after years of being forgotten under Franco, Barcelona was a relatively
:15:55. > :16:03.There were only 3.8 million tourist nights spent there in 1990.
:16:04. > :16:04.20 years later, that stood at 15 million,
:16:05. > :16:14.But by then, London was already a world city with 49 million tourist
:16:15. > :16:22.Olympic marketing offered smaller opportunities to London than it
:16:23. > :16:28.Indeed, the difficulty of emulating Barcelona may explain why a lot
:16:29. > :16:39.of cities are now sceptical about hosting the Games.
:16:40. > :16:41.Athens 2004 beat off 11 other applicant cities.
:16:42. > :16:51.Tokyo is holding the 2020 Games and it beat just four other cities.
:16:52. > :16:57.The London Olympics led to a lot of development and real
:16:58. > :16:59.regeneration takes time, but maybe it's best to remember it
:17:00. > :17:06.as a ?9 billion party, and anything else we get is a bonus.
:17:07. > :17:10.Lets pick up again with Tessa Jowell,
:17:11. > :17:19.What is emerging from that graphic is that there is less global
:17:20. > :17:26.appetite now to actually host these events. Does that shock you? In a
:17:27. > :17:30.way, no it doesn't. Because I think the economics have changed in the
:17:31. > :17:41.world generally and it is very expensive. The IOC recognised that,
:17:42. > :17:48.why they have their 2020 vision. The IOC didn't focus on the future until
:17:49. > :17:51.post-2012 and now it makes the city think about the legacy and the
:17:52. > :17:55.benefits. But it's enormously expensive and I think it's going to
:17:56. > :18:01.need a rethink. I'm not sure in 20 or 30 years' time we will see the
:18:02. > :18:08.Games in just one city, it could be in a whole country. We have set a
:18:09. > :18:11.bar at ?9 billion which seems hugely unrealistic for anywhere smaller?
:18:12. > :18:14.That is absolutely right. At domestic Lee what the investment of
:18:15. > :18:22.?9.3 billion did it was to regenerate east London in six years
:18:23. > :18:28.at a rate that would have otherwise taken 60 years. That regeneration is
:18:29. > :18:32.still happening. But Debbie is absolutely right, you've got to be
:18:33. > :18:38.very clear and ruthless about your legacy ambitions before ever
:18:39. > :18:42.embarking on it. And we were absolutely clear that we had two
:18:43. > :18:47.legacy ambitions, to regenerate east London, which was a wasteland, and
:18:48. > :18:52.to transform a generation of young people through sport. Kelly is
:18:53. > :18:56.absolutely right in what she said at the beginning coming you've got to
:18:57. > :19:00.look at this over the long-term. I hope we can come back in ten years'
:19:01. > :19:05.time and look at what's happening in these London. Demi just bring in
:19:06. > :19:09.Cali. You are famed throughout the world feel sport but do you ever get
:19:10. > :19:14.people here at home saying to you, we spent ?269 million on an Aquatics
:19:15. > :19:20.Centre, its one swimming pool, how many kids can use that? Like I say,
:19:21. > :19:28.I came on here and I was nervous about coming on the show, I have an
:19:29. > :19:33.opinion about this because I do my thing and I am sporty but other
:19:34. > :19:38.people on my Twitter for example have a completely different opinion.
:19:39. > :19:42.I was very surprised that there were a lot of really positive responses.
:19:43. > :19:49.I asked the question I was on Newsnight, talking about legacy,
:19:50. > :19:55.what do you think? I was release apprised, I -- really surprised, I
:19:56. > :19:58.saw a lot -- hike spec today lot of negative talk, people saying, you
:19:59. > :20:06.spent tenderly hands, what did it for me? But I had a lot of positive
:20:07. > :20:10.responses, some saying their children are so motivated and want
:20:11. > :20:14.to be into sport. Others saying World Championship events are now
:20:15. > :20:20.hosted in the UK and they get to go, others love the Olympic. For east
:20:21. > :20:27.London we are creating a low busy and that is long-term. Are we doing
:20:28. > :20:29.nationally? Not sure. Why are places like Toronto and Hamburg having to
:20:30. > :20:39.ask through referendums whether there cities want to host the Games?
:20:40. > :20:41.The world has changed, we just had our own referendum, and the economic
:20:42. > :20:50.situation is very difficult. People are looking at that and maybe if we
:20:51. > :20:54.asked about hosting the Games now we would not have had the same
:20:55. > :20:59.response. I think there is a growing rebellion against what people
:21:00. > :21:03.experience as the kind of imposition of big events like this. I think
:21:04. > :21:08.there is a challenge for the International Olympic Committee in
:21:09. > :21:15.really calibrating the ownership with the cities and the countries
:21:16. > :21:19.that decide to host them. Probably to become less prescriptive, to be
:21:20. > :21:26.less proprietorial about the Olympic brand. And I think very particularly
:21:27. > :21:33.to decide whether the Olympic Games is going to continue to be a global
:21:34. > :21:38.Games. When will we see an Olympic Games in Africa? Post-Rio, I think
:21:39. > :21:42.we're going to have a lot of questions asked about how it has
:21:43. > :21:44.affected the people who live there. Thank you very much indeed, all of
:21:45. > :21:46.you. The London 2012 Opening Ceremony
:21:47. > :21:49.portrayed a Britain of the NHS, of the Industrial Revolution,
:21:50. > :21:51.of Isambard Kingdom Brunel, of Prospero, of Suffragettes,
:21:52. > :21:52.immigrants and Chelsea Pensioners, of James Bond, of Corgis,
:21:53. > :21:55.of the Queen and Mr Bean. It was broadly hailed as a triumph,
:21:56. > :21:59.chaotic, bonkers, but brilliant, a stark contrast to an equally
:22:00. > :22:01.commended but highly-regimented one So, does the Opening Ceremony tell
:22:02. > :22:43.us anything about our country? Peter Hitchens and Sunder
:22:44. > :22:54.Katwala have joined me. Let me throw that one open to both
:22:55. > :22:59.of you. What did it tell us about the country and what did it say to
:23:00. > :23:03.you? I love it. The world was watching, we had the Queen with
:23:04. > :23:08.James Bond and Mr Bean and that were recognisable but it was a story
:23:09. > :23:12.about us, us, full of in jokes about our national psyche and
:23:13. > :23:17.conversation, the shipping forecast, the EastEnders theme tune. It's
:23:18. > :23:21.about things we experience together, things we share, the shared
:23:22. > :23:26.soundtrack of our lives. The fact that 27 million of us were watching
:23:27. > :23:31.that night is quite rare in society today, doing something together on
:23:32. > :23:35.that scale. Peter Hitchens. I just don't think that everyone at the
:23:36. > :23:45.country thought at the time or things now that the 1960s were the
:23:46. > :23:51.beginning of civilisation, that rap music was the best representation of
:23:52. > :23:56.British culture... Certainly myself, I didn't find it particularly
:23:57. > :24:00.appealing. I felt very much under pressure to say that I liked it and
:24:01. > :24:04.when I said that I didn't, people could say we disagree -- people
:24:05. > :24:08.didn't say we disagree with you, let's talk about this, they said it
:24:09. > :24:13.was shocking that I didn't like it. I agree there was a monoculture at
:24:14. > :24:19.the time, wasn't there? Why do you go back to the 1960s? The opening
:24:20. > :24:23.ceremony went back to the industrial revolution and Shakespeare. It was
:24:24. > :24:27.dominated hugely by the 60s theme, by rock music and punk and all this
:24:28. > :24:31.garbage as far as I'm concerned which has no bearing on culture at
:24:32. > :24:36.all and this is what they were clearly happiest with and what
:24:37. > :24:42.dominated. The suffragettes? Well, the suffragettes were in their too.
:24:43. > :24:45.Paul Flynn, who I like immensely who is a very good left-wing member of
:24:46. > :24:50.Parliament enjoy it immensely because it was left wing. I'm not
:24:51. > :24:53.left wing and I disliked the bits of it that were left wing. I'm not so
:24:54. > :24:58.sure about that because in a way because it had a leftward reach and
:24:59. > :25:01.a liberal reach for something that was patriotically at the history and
:25:02. > :25:09.the roots were their too. I think you try to blend that. Cultural
:25:10. > :25:17.voices were on stand-by to defend it and there was no biddy to defend it
:25:18. > :25:26.against. Apart from anybody else, nobody can criticise the Olympics
:25:27. > :25:29.for being multicultural while using language like that... It's a much
:25:30. > :25:34.broader ownership than that. The clue is the 27 million people. If
:25:35. > :25:38.you're one of the people in London who voted Remain and are very upset
:25:39. > :25:45.about the referendum, it you would be thinking what have we lost, I
:25:46. > :25:50.want my country back. If you are a Leave voter in the potteries, you
:25:51. > :25:56.will beat thinking that explains the reason I voted leave, the Jarrow
:25:57. > :25:58.marchers, the Industrial Revolution... People who disagree
:25:59. > :26:07.politically shared these cultural moments. Unjustified confidence. The
:26:08. > :26:10.Olympics are like a family on your street known for being heavily in
:26:11. > :26:15.debt who can't make their mortgage payments who suddenly borrow
:26:16. > :26:18.hundreds of thousands of pounds to stage an enormous party. That is
:26:19. > :26:22.what we did. This is a country hugely in debt as a step and as a
:26:23. > :26:27.people and we splashed 9 billion quid on this immense party, which we
:26:28. > :26:34.didn't need to stage and we actually fought to stage. Austerity should
:26:35. > :26:40.have been a gigantic plughole with George Osborne shovelling ?50 notes
:26:41. > :26:43.in. This reminded people of everything we've achieved, the
:26:44. > :26:47.Industrial Revolution, Shakespeare, Dickens, Harry pot, the Queen. It
:26:48. > :26:55.gave us that, if you like, nation state confidence. We've soared
:26:56. > :27:02.onwards and upwards ever since, of course (!) What does that mean? What
:27:03. > :27:07.about Brexit's effect of the economy? It had no effect except
:27:08. > :27:13.increasing our overdraft. It doesn't feature in the ground sweep after
:27:14. > :27:18.Sergeant Pepper, you don't have Heath and Wilson taking us into
:27:19. > :27:24.Europe. That process of change wasn't on the ballot paper in this
:27:25. > :27:33.election, it wasn't do you want to live in 1962 or 2016? It was asking
:27:34. > :27:37.do you like living in 2016 and 52% of the population said not really,
:27:38. > :27:41.not very much. They still own that historic sweep which belongs to both
:27:42. > :27:45.sides of the referendum. They said we don't like being ignored by the
:27:46. > :27:49.kind of people who devise our opening ceremony. This is a bit too
:27:50. > :27:54.short and I apologise, thank you very much indeed for coming in.
:27:55. > :27:56.The father of a 21-year-old woman imprisoned in Saudi Arabia
:27:57. > :27:59.has been ordered by a high court judge to return her to the UK.
:28:00. > :28:02.Amina Al Jeffery, who grew up in Swansea and has dual British
:28:03. > :28:05.and Saudi nationality, complained that her father had kept her locked
:28:06. > :28:09.up in a cage because he disapproved of her Western lifestyle.
:28:10. > :28:11.Her father claims he was trying to protect her.
:28:12. > :28:13.Secunder Kermani has interviewed Amina's friend, who first raised
:28:14. > :28:18.the alarm of her imprisonment, and has spoken to a charity who say
:28:19. > :28:24.Imprisoned in her father's home for four years in Saudi Arabia without
:28:25. > :28:37.being allowed to leave. 21-year-old Amina Al Jeffery
:28:38. > :28:42.believes her family once heard dead. She was taken to Jeddah by her
:28:43. > :28:46.ultraconservative parents who claimed she was taking drugs and
:28:47. > :28:52.drinking. Through lawyers, she has been fighting to be able to return
:28:53. > :28:55.to the UK. In court today, the judge said that the constraints placed on
:28:56. > :28:59.Amina Al Jeffery by her father might be acceptable in Saudi Arabia but
:29:00. > :29:02.they are not in Britain. He said she was being deprived of her right to
:29:03. > :29:09.act as an independent adult and that she needed to be rescued. The judge
:29:10. > :29:13.ruled that Amina's father must allow her to return to Britain by Sunday
:29:14. > :29:17.the 11th of September. The question is whether her father, living in
:29:18. > :29:25.Saudi Arabia, will pay any attention to the rulings of a court the UK.
:29:26. > :29:32.Amina's lawyer has not been able to talk to her because of her father. I
:29:33. > :29:39.would love to speak to Amina today to explain to her what the judge
:29:40. > :29:43.said and how concerned he is for her well-being, that he considers her to
:29:44. > :29:50.be under constraint and he used the word peril. Amina grew up here in
:29:51. > :29:56.this quiet, mainly white Swansea a bird. We've spoken to a number of
:29:57. > :29:59.her friends who extra I'm her -- who described her family as being
:30:00. > :30:04.extremely socially conservative. Amina didn't fit into that, we have
:30:05. > :30:16.been told that unlike her sisters she would take off her hijab at
:30:17. > :30:21.times. She wanted to have a normal life but that brought her into
:30:22. > :30:26.conflict with her father. She would take clothes to change into at
:30:27. > :30:29.school. She didn't want to be dressing in skimpy clothes, she just
:30:30. > :30:34.wanted to be dressed how she wanted to be dressed. Colourful blazers and
:30:35. > :30:40.nice shoes and jewellery. She would stick jewellery on hand statement
:30:41. > :30:46.necklaces. -- and statement necklaces. One charities say they
:30:47. > :30:50.warned the police in 2011 that Amina was at risk of being taken to Saudi
:30:51. > :30:54.Arabia by her family but nothing was done. The police say they received
:30:55. > :30:59.no such warning and only got involved in April 2012 after Amina
:31:00. > :31:05.had disappeared. I had a message saying she was going on holiday to
:31:06. > :31:10.Morocco for two weeks. I didn't hear from her until three months later,
:31:11. > :31:14.telling me she had been taken to Saudi Arabia. What did you say in
:31:15. > :31:20.her messages to you? She just said I've been taken against my will, I
:31:21. > :31:24.don't want to be here, you need to help me. She just didn't want to be
:31:25. > :31:29.there. She said it was like prison, she couldn't get out. She wanted to
:31:30. > :31:33.get on with her life. She wanted to get home, it wasn't where she
:31:34. > :31:37.belonged. Her friend read out one of the many worrying messages she
:31:38. > :31:41.received. "I'm Writing this story in case worse comes to worst people
:31:42. > :31:46.know what happened. You don't know what I've been through the last
:31:47. > :31:51.week. I have to tell you but I don't have time". Amina's mother and some
:31:52. > :31:56.of her siblings Silicon Wales. We've spoken to members of the family who
:31:57. > :32:03.say their brothers controlled their sister's actions. At the moment she
:32:04. > :32:06.doesn't have any support from her siblings and her siblings have filed
:32:07. > :32:12.evidence in support of her father's case. Amina is a jewel Saudi and
:32:13. > :32:15.British national and that could come to eight things. The Foreign Office
:32:16. > :32:19.say they are raising the matter with Saudi authorities but if her father
:32:20. > :32:24.does not comply, it's not clear what the courts here can do.