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:00:08. > :00:09.A murder in Pakistan on grounds of blasphemy,

:00:10. > :00:17.and a community celebrates the work of the murderer.

:00:18. > :00:24.It was a very depressing thought when my father was murdered to see

:00:25. > :00:27.his murderer garlanded with flowers, it was shocking.

:00:28. > :00:30.Is it possible that people here, could take the same view

:00:31. > :00:35.On the day that a killer was given a life sentence for a religiously

:00:36. > :00:38.inspired murder in Glasgow, we'll ask how serious this problem is.

:00:39. > :00:41.He's behind in the polls, are the wheels coming off?

:00:42. > :00:50.I am a Republican and I would rather than the Republicans would win but

:00:51. > :00:51.more importantly I would rather that my country not go down a fascist

:00:52. > :00:52.route. All that and Steve Smith too,

:00:53. > :01:05.back on the Olympic couch. That looked like an illegal server.

:01:06. > :01:06.That is the other thing about watching the Olympics, you suddenly

:01:07. > :01:16.become an expert. Most of us in this country cannot

:01:17. > :01:20.begin to understand how someone might murder a fellow human being,

:01:21. > :01:24.simply for blasphemy. The idea others might wish a killer

:01:25. > :01:27.well for upholding the prophet's honour is surely even

:01:28. > :01:29.more incomprehensible. But we know that in Pakistan,

:01:30. > :01:31.blasphemy has been an excuse for a killing, and there crowds have

:01:32. > :01:35.turned out in support of a killer. Well Tanveer Ahmed was sentenced

:01:36. > :01:40.to life imprisonment today, for the murder of Glaswegian

:01:41. > :01:42.shopkeeper, Asad Shah. He said his victim,

:01:43. > :01:44.an Ahmadi Muslim, had So how on earth did that perverse

:01:45. > :01:51.motive for murder arrive here? Secunder Kermani has been looking

:01:52. > :01:56.at the case of two murders - that tragic killing of Asad Shah

:01:57. > :02:12.in Glasgow, and the murder that These are the moments just before to

:02:13. > :02:18.Ahmed pulls out a knife and murder a Glasgow shopkeeper he accuses of

:02:19. > :02:22.committing blasphemy. His victim was Assad Shah, who had made YouTube

:02:23. > :02:26.videos claiming to be a prophet, sentencing his killer the judge

:02:27. > :02:34.today said he had shown no remorse. This was a brutal, barbaric and

:02:35. > :02:40.horrific crime, resulting from intolerance. At which led to the

:02:41. > :02:46.death of a holy innocent man who openly expressed beliefs which from

:02:47. > :02:53.yours. This is the story of two murders. Tanveer Ahmed was inspired

:02:54. > :02:57.by another killer, who five years ago shot a liberal Pakistani

:02:58. > :03:06.politician attempting to reform the country's blasphemy laws. He became

:03:07. > :03:12.a national hero of sorts, after his execution thousands attended his

:03:13. > :03:15.funeral. Tanveer Ahmed had a handful of supporters in court today but no

:03:16. > :03:21.one in Britain has openly backed what he did. We found a significant

:03:22. > :03:27.minority supportive of the killing in Pakistan, that helped inspire it.

:03:28. > :03:31.Not just among those widely considered to be extremists but

:03:32. > :03:37.among groups and scholars normally associated with more peaceful,

:03:38. > :03:44.spiritual interpretations of Islam. Missoup Chaudhry, a scholar from

:03:45. > :03:57.Pakistan, travelled overseas for the funeral.

:03:58. > :04:07.He says that the man was provoked and should have been freed. He says

:04:08. > :04:11.he does not condone the killing in Glasgow. You don't think it is fair

:04:12. > :04:17.to say that all these people in Britain who are supporting them,

:04:18. > :04:23.like yourself, deep down are actually supporting Tanveer Ahmed

:04:24. > :04:24.but do not want to get themselves locked up for inciting racial

:04:25. > :04:46.hatred? Masuda completely condemns Isis but

:04:47. > :04:52.he and others see no contradiction between that and supporting the

:04:53. > :04:56.murder in Pakistan. If we have home-grown terrorists, then we need

:04:57. > :05:04.home-grown readers to combat and respond. This Coventry scholar,

:05:05. > :05:09.speaking at a conference condemning terrorism. And yet, here he is on

:05:10. > :05:15.YouTube in support of the murder in Pakistan. He was a person of

:05:16. > :05:20.forthrightness and integrity. Here is a flyer for an anti-Isis event,

:05:21. > :05:31.held by popular demand from Bradford. And here is his now

:05:32. > :05:37.deleted Facebook post describing Mumtaz Ghadi as a lion. To glorify a

:05:38. > :05:41.murderer is not to glorify the individual but to glorify his

:05:42. > :05:46.actions. And to call on someone to emulate that. This is not a benign

:05:47. > :05:55.or passive action, it is an active and provocative action. When a man

:05:56. > :06:04.like Mumtaz Ghadi is glorified, sooner or later, a man like Tanveer

:06:05. > :06:09.Ahmed will commit murder. The issue of Glastonbury is very emotive for

:06:10. > :06:14.Muslims. In Bradford, even some who condemn him believe that blasphemy

:06:15. > :06:19.should be illegal. -- the issue of blasphemy. Historically, we had a

:06:20. > :06:29.law against blasphemy, and those laws are now redundant. We need to

:06:30. > :06:35.look at that. Most people would find that outrageous, the idea of having

:06:36. > :06:45.a blasphemy law. Well, what is blasphemy? It is the right of the

:06:46. > :06:48.faith community not to be offended. Assad Shah is greatly missed in his

:06:49. > :06:52.local community. His murderer is breathing new life to controversies

:06:53. > :06:56.that many thought we had left behind.

:06:57. > :06:59.With us now from Glasgow is Scottish Government Minister, Humza Yousaf.

:07:00. > :07:04.He is the first Muslim minister in the Scottish Government, and

:07:05. > :07:09.represents a neighbouring Glasgow seats to those where the events took

:07:10. > :07:15.place. Good evening. Is it more than a tiny fringe who would regard

:07:16. > :07:22.blasphemy as reasonable grounds for murder? No, I think it is a minority

:07:23. > :07:29.but that is not to say it is not a serious problem. Even a minority of

:07:30. > :07:33.people having this view, that is a serious issue. And I think there is

:07:34. > :07:36.a little bit of birdieing the head in the sand, not just in the Muslim

:07:37. > :07:43.community but perhaps even wider than that, that this problem does

:07:44. > :07:46.exist. Well, clearly Mumtaz Qadri has attracted a weird level of

:07:47. > :07:52.support from people inside and outside of Pakistan. Have you seen

:07:53. > :07:57.evidence of that in the Muslim community two I am afraid I have. I

:07:58. > :08:00.remember when the tragic murder of the Punjab Governor took place. I

:08:01. > :08:05.remember that there were people celebrating on Facebook and social

:08:06. > :08:07.media. There was a shop in Glasgow giving out sweets in celebration.

:08:08. > :08:17.Ortelli conned them the ball actions. -- utterly condemn the

:08:18. > :08:20.ball. To think that sympathy could translate into violence, it is wrong

:08:21. > :08:24.to not make that link. I think there is a real job to be done by the

:08:25. > :08:32.Muslim community of course. We have to accept that there is a tiny

:08:33. > :08:38.minority but there is a minority that exists that believes that

:08:39. > :08:40.disrespecting the Prophet Muhammad is a justification for violence. But

:08:41. > :08:46.there is also a job for others to do. I want to be clear, are these

:08:47. > :08:51.the usual suspects in your view, people who have pretty extreme views

:08:52. > :08:54.that are way outside the mainstream, or is this something that you have

:08:55. > :09:00.observed in people who you would not have ordinarily regarded as

:09:01. > :09:08.extremists, radicals, jihadists? I am afraid it is the latter. It is

:09:09. > :09:16.people that, if I go to my own mask, where I am a minority, it is with

:09:17. > :09:19.people that I would automatically think would not be sympathetic to

:09:20. > :09:23.violent extremism but for one reason or another, it has been drummed into

:09:24. > :09:28.them that blasphemy, disrespecting the Prophet Muhammad, who we are

:09:29. > :09:33.taught to revere as closely as our own parents, the disrespected that

:09:34. > :09:37.must be met with any means necessary. And of course that is

:09:38. > :09:40.contradictory to the teachings of the Prophet Muhammad himself. He was

:09:41. > :09:44.verbally and physically abused and the only responded in kindness.

:09:45. > :09:49.Those people who commit acts like Tanveer Ahmed, they disrespect the

:09:50. > :09:55.name of the Prophet Muhammad and anyone else could. They are not the

:09:56. > :09:58.fringe, they are not extremists. These are people who everybody would

:09:59. > :10:02.regard as fairly moderate in their everyday lives. What is going on

:10:03. > :10:06.here? Why is this such a touchstone issue for some people? Is it a

:10:07. > :10:12.projection of identity? It does not feel like it. It is not a West

:10:13. > :10:17.versus Muslim thing, the great battle between these two global

:10:18. > :10:21.forces. It feels like it is a very strange thing here. I can only give

:10:22. > :10:26.you my interpretation. I am not a religious expert, nor an expert in

:10:27. > :10:30.these matters but there is clearly a real subversion and her version of

:10:31. > :10:35.Islamic ideology at the moment that is happening, with a minority that

:10:36. > :10:40.will read things in literal black and white and divide the world into

:10:41. > :10:45.those who believe the way they do, their extreme view, and anybody else

:10:46. > :10:49.that does not believe that. It's frankly, fair game. What we have to

:10:50. > :10:52.do as a Muslim community in the United Kingdom is to make sure that

:10:53. > :10:57.we empower those with moderate voices, those that are credible,

:10:58. > :11:03.influential moderates, and give them a voice. The danger would be, and we

:11:04. > :11:07.have seen this in some elements of the prevent programme, particularly

:11:08. > :11:11.south of the border, that often politicians will pluck people who

:11:12. > :11:14.sing from the hymn sheet that the government want them to and they do

:11:15. > :11:20.not have any credibility within the Muslim community and are frankly

:11:21. > :11:24.viewed as suspicious. Therefore, if anything it hardens their views.

:11:25. > :11:28.There is a job to do there. There are many more moderates, if I can

:11:29. > :11:34.use that term, many more moderates, peaceful Muslims who are happy to

:11:35. > :11:40.tolerate and expect to be tolerated themselves. Whatever people's faith,

:11:41. > :11:43.religion or creed is, they are not the people being empowered. Finally,

:11:44. > :11:46.Tanveer Ahmed has been given a life sentence for the brutal murder.

:11:47. > :11:53.People in the court or out the court to cheer or pay respect to him, what

:11:54. > :11:57.should a government or the authorities literally do when we see

:11:58. > :12:00.that happening? Should we say it is a free country and if people want to

:12:01. > :12:05.cheer a murderer, that should be tolerated or is it simply

:12:06. > :12:08.intolerable? It is clearly disgraceful and disgusting and I

:12:09. > :12:13.have no doubt that the security services will often look for

:12:14. > :12:17.patterns of ideology that they claim to associate themselves with and

:12:18. > :12:21.whether or not that will lead to violent extremism, whether it is far

:12:22. > :12:25.right or Islamic extremism or any other type of extremism. But that is

:12:26. > :12:31.a job for the security services to do. But we do live in a democracy,

:12:32. > :12:36.we do live in a country where we believe in free speech. As

:12:37. > :12:40.intolerable as people's views are, I don't think that clamping down on

:12:41. > :12:44.people necessarily for their views, if anything that would probably hard

:12:45. > :12:52.in the way they think. But there is a job for the authorities and the

:12:53. > :12:55.intelligence services, they do that already, and community policing is

:12:56. > :12:56.an integral part of that. Thank you very much.

:12:57. > :12:57.It's been interesting watching Donald Trump

:12:58. > :13:03.Some have said he's imploding, some of have said he's showing signs

:13:04. > :13:09.I have to say, to me, the strangest moment of the last week

:13:10. > :13:12.was his interaction with the mother of a crying baby, it wasn't him

:13:13. > :13:14.talking of disbanding NATO or pontificating on how aerosols

:13:15. > :13:17.don't damage the ozone layer, it was just a somewhat odd way

:13:18. > :13:21.Tonight, in a differently odd way, he spoke of stopping

:13:22. > :13:24.Hillary Clinton, by using the second amendment - which is the one

:13:25. > :13:27.But are the wheels really falling off Donald Trump's campaign,

:13:28. > :13:29.or is that wishful thinking by his many opponents?

:13:30. > :13:37.David Grossman looks at the challenge facing Donald Trump.

:13:38. > :13:47.It seems we live in an era of political flying pigs. Events that

:13:48. > :13:52.we were sure what impossible happened anyway. In the UK, we have

:13:53. > :13:57.seen Labour wiped out in Scotland, Jeremy Corbyn elected leader, a

:13:58. > :14:01.Conservative government and a vote for Brexit, all supposedly

:14:02. > :14:04.unthinkable. Could the next impossible reality be a Donald Trump

:14:05. > :14:11.presidency? This has been a presidential cycle that has been

:14:12. > :14:18.full of surprises. As we saw with the Brexit vote in June, in the UK,

:14:19. > :14:24.obviously that gap was smaller in polling but polling is an imperfect

:14:25. > :14:29.measurement of public sentiment and it is -- and of who is going to show

:14:30. > :14:31.up to vote. There could still be surprises. The last couple of weeks

:14:32. > :14:36.have certainly been full of surprises but none in Donald Trump's

:14:37. > :14:39.favour. He got into an extraordinary public row with appearance of a

:14:40. > :14:46.falling Muslim soldier, at one point comparing his suppose it's a

:14:47. > :14:51.sacrifice to bears. That row has not played well in the polls. If we

:14:52. > :14:54.trace Donald Trump in red and Hillary Clinton in blue since last

:14:55. > :14:59.October, we can see a definite rise and fall in the Tron campaign in

:15:00. > :15:02.recent weeks. From slightly ahead going into the Democratic

:15:03. > :15:06.convention, to a double-digit deficit today. The way we elect

:15:07. > :15:11.presidents, Donald Trump would have to carry certain states, specific

:15:12. > :15:17.states in the upper Midwest, industrial states. States that he

:15:18. > :15:20.needs absolutely to win the election. He is doing related in

:15:21. > :15:28.those states, almost without exception. The way back would

:15:29. > :15:31.require some enormous collapse on Hillary Clinton's part. She has been

:15:32. > :15:36.so scrutinised over the years, I cannot imagine that there is going

:15:37. > :15:43.to be a new scandal that is going to undo her. In the absence of that

:15:44. > :15:46.scandal, and increasingly confident Clinton campaign is now pushing

:15:47. > :15:50.resources into usually strong Republican states like Arizona and

:15:51. > :15:55.Florida which current polling suggest are winnable for the

:15:56. > :16:01.Democrats. # You can't always get what you want. During the battle for

:16:02. > :16:05.the party's nomination, Donald Trump was focused on appealing to die-hard

:16:06. > :16:09.Republican activists. Now he has to win over the uncommitted voters in

:16:10. > :16:14.the middle, very different challenge that his campaign shows no sign of

:16:15. > :16:19.adjusting to. The frustration in Republican circles is obvious. Today

:16:20. > :16:22.a letter signed by 50 former Republican administration officials

:16:23. > :16:28.warned that Donald Trump would make a dangerous president and would put

:16:29. > :16:37.at risk our country's national security.

:16:38. > :16:57.I've been watching this train wreck for some time and I kept

:16:58. > :17:03.I'm a Republican and I would rather that the Republicans would win. I

:17:04. > :17:13.would rather that my country didn't go down a fascist route. But Donald

:17:14. > :17:17.Trump continues to defied the conventions of political

:17:18. > :17:20.campaigning. To night, he appeared to suggest that political

:17:21. > :17:28.assassination might be the only way to keep the second Amendment right

:17:29. > :17:34.to bear arms. Hillary Clinton wants to abolish, essentially abolished,

:17:35. > :17:40.the second Amendment. If he gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do,

:17:41. > :17:47.folks. Although the second Amendment people, maybe, there is. I don't

:17:48. > :17:49.know. In 90 days, America decides. Meanwhile, the world waits. No

:17:50. > :17:53.comment. It's the season of rail strikes,

:17:54. > :17:56.or talk of strikes, at the moment. We all know about the long running

:17:57. > :17:58.dispute at Southern. There's an argument

:17:59. > :18:00.going on at ScotRail although there is no strike

:18:01. > :18:04.there for the moment. And now staff on Virgin Trains East

:18:05. > :18:07.Coast have voted for a walk-out. No actual strike yet, but the threat

:18:08. > :18:10.is in the union's back pocket. Common to all three disputes

:18:11. > :18:12.are arguments over with safety mentioned as an issue

:18:13. > :18:18.by the union on them all. Mick Lynch is the assistant general

:18:19. > :18:29.secretary of the RMT Very good evening to you. Who do you

:18:30. > :18:35.think should be making decisions about what is safe on the railways?

:18:36. > :18:42.Decisions are made about regulations by the regulator, and other bodies.

:18:43. > :18:47.The union has to make a decision about whether the government is

:18:48. > :18:52.trying to deregulate the railway and dilate safety standards. It is our

:18:53. > :18:57.opinion that the focus and their agenda is to dilate safety practices

:18:58. > :19:01.and get driver only operation widespread across the system and

:19:02. > :19:05.that puts that risk to passengers and infrastructure and put our

:19:06. > :19:11.members jobs at risk into the bargain. You portray it as a risk to

:19:12. > :19:18.the public. I'm trained to work out whether we should think the union is

:19:19. > :19:24.the best arbiter of safety standards or whether the rail safety standards

:19:25. > :19:28.board is the better standard investigator? Should we not trust

:19:29. > :19:31.those who set the standards? You have to be wary of government bodies

:19:32. > :19:40.that are set up by the government. The O R R, for instance is the

:19:41. > :19:51.regulator and Grams franchise. Its agenda is to do the government's

:19:52. > :19:56.bidding. We are a very extreme -- experienced trade union and our

:19:57. > :20:04.agenda is to make sure we have the safest railway possible. You would

:20:05. > :20:09.agree that you are conflicted because you have to look after your

:20:10. > :20:15.members jobs. It is judge to look after their jobs. That is our jobs

:20:16. > :20:18.and their safety. We have no conflict in keeping the railway safe

:20:19. > :20:23.and keeping the passengers that use it to save and the people that work

:20:24. > :20:29.on it safe. That is a mutual and joint interest. You might tell as it

:20:30. > :20:35.is a safety issue when it is really about rejecting jobs. No. These

:20:36. > :20:41.disputes are entirely about safety. We could take a deal from these

:20:42. > :20:44.employers that said that we keep the people we have already got. We are

:20:45. > :20:50.standing up for the principle that we don't want safety practices daily

:20:51. > :20:55.did. We want competent people operating trains and the railway and

:20:56. > :21:00.despatching trains. We want the public protected so they are not

:21:01. > :21:04.tracked and dragged on crowded stations, the incidence of which are

:21:05. > :21:11.increasing. We want a proper process where safety officers are on board

:21:12. > :21:18.all our trains. Who should the public trust? Conflicted and able to

:21:19. > :21:23.make this decision in a sensible way? They can't trust the

:21:24. > :21:26.government. We have the rail standard safety board love love that

:21:27. > :21:32.this and said that none of the work has identified any increased risk.

:21:33. > :21:38.At the same time they are investigating an increase in trap

:21:39. > :21:42.and drag incidents. It's not just about train dispatch but the whole

:21:43. > :21:46.suite of competencies that on-board staff have on our railways. It

:21:47. > :21:54.involves evacuation, emergency situations. Can I ask, if we could

:21:55. > :21:58.agree on a neutral body to decide, not someone that the government

:21:59. > :22:04.appointed to deregulate the railways, not the union, someone

:22:05. > :22:07.completely independent, if we could agree on a board that would review

:22:08. > :22:15.the evidence and look at the data and tanners whether -- and tell us

:22:16. > :22:21.whether it is a safety problem, would you agree to go with their

:22:22. > :22:25.verdict and stop the strike? We used to have Health and Safety Executive

:22:26. > :22:30.that was largely neutral, the government emerged that with the

:22:31. > :22:39.body that grants franchises. The O R has attended a forum with the

:22:40. > :22:43.government on this batch processes and we are happy to take part but it

:22:44. > :22:48.has not to be subjective. The government agenda is to get rid of

:22:49. > :22:52.safety practices as they stand on our railway so the companies can

:22:53. > :22:57.make more profit. Would you agree that there is a simple solution, an

:22:58. > :23:03.independent body to decide whether it is safe? If it is an independent

:23:04. > :23:09.body, we will support it but there is nobody in government proposing

:23:10. > :23:13.it. I'm proposing it to you. If only you have the power, it would be a

:23:14. > :23:19.nice thing to happen. Thank you very much. We are going to be continuing

:23:20. > :23:25.that conversation off at because we are having a Facebook life. You can

:23:26. > :23:28.send your own questions direct to Mick Lynch and you can pick it up on

:23:29. > :23:33.Facebook page after the programme. When it comes to the Olympic Games,

:23:34. > :23:36.you can't help but be in awe of the sacrifices made by

:23:37. > :23:39.our fellow citizens, to achieve their lifetime dreams and pursue

:23:40. > :23:41.Corinthian ideals of sport. Our own Stephen Smith, for example,

:23:42. > :23:44.has passed up a fortnight's holiday in a static caravan in Rhyll

:23:45. > :23:46.to confine himself to a sofa day-in, day-out

:23:47. > :23:48.for the duration of Rio 2016. he brings us his

:23:49. > :23:57.strictly amateur take on the Games. I'm Radio 4's Corrie Corfield

:23:58. > :24:02.and you're watching Stephen Smith's When it comes to watching

:24:03. > :24:11.sport on telly, I'm an Eddie the Eagle

:24:12. > :24:16.with a remote control. But Kevin O'Sullivan

:24:17. > :24:20.is it for a living. Did you see my thing

:24:21. > :24:22.on Newsnight last night? Yeah.

:24:23. > :24:28.It was brilliant. Do you want to hang

:24:29. > :24:32.out at the Newsnight house and

:24:33. > :24:34.watch some Olympics with me? But Evan's not going

:24:35. > :24:37.to be there, is he? I don't want any lectures

:24:38. > :24:39.about quantitative easing. COMMENTATOR: It's like he's going

:24:40. > :24:48.through a boxing routine and Phelps I've been mesmerised

:24:49. > :24:51.about the pageant of But before the swimming races,

:24:52. > :24:56.they all stand, kind COMENNTATOR: It's like he's growling

:24:57. > :25:01.like a dog. There's this amazing

:25:02. > :25:05.pantomime before the race See, this is what's great

:25:06. > :25:23.about the Olympics. Suddenly, you're watching table

:25:24. > :25:30.tennis That's the other thing

:25:31. > :25:36.about watching the Olympics. Well, I've got some

:25:37. > :25:43.handbooks somewhere. COMMENTATOR: Daley and

:25:44. > :25:48.Goodfellow, last one. Some complained that Goodfellow

:25:49. > :25:51.got rather cut out of Don't share the screen

:25:52. > :26:00.with Tom Daley. COMMENTATOR: Kazakhstan

:26:01. > :26:10.has just fallen in. I think, none of us watch

:26:11. > :26:23.23.5 hours per day. So, I think, if the BBC's

:26:24. > :26:32.going to cover it, it So, yeah, I think

:26:33. > :26:36.the coverage is fine. Thank you so much for coming

:26:37. > :26:39.on Throne Of Games. Listen, any chance of a nice little

:26:40. > :26:44.write-up for the weekend? I'm reviewing When Plastic Surgeons

:26:45. > :26:58.Go Nad on the History Channel. You're watching Stephen

:26:59. > :27:02.Smith's Throne Of Games. Before it's quietly

:27:03. > :27:09.binned and disowned. Thursday, I'm guessing. No, it's

:27:10. > :27:15.going through the Olympic Games. It's all gone very quiet

:27:16. > :27:18.on the Brexit front this month; that debate over how quickly to invoke

:27:19. > :27:21.Article 50 seems to have been resolved in favour of the "not now"

:27:22. > :27:24.or "not even very soon" options. But, if we are going to take it

:27:25. > :27:28.all very slowly, there are some consequences and our business editor

:27:29. > :27:30.Helen Thomas is with me, So there is a looming issue

:27:31. > :27:35.for Nissan's manufacturing Remember this is the biggest

:27:36. > :27:39.car plant in the UK - it employs nearly 7,000

:27:40. > :27:41.people and produces half a million vehicles a year,

:27:42. > :27:45.most of which are exported. Now what Nissan has said,

:27:46. > :27:47.since the referendum, is that future investment in the UK

:27:48. > :27:51.will depend on the details of the UK's relationship with Europe -

:27:52. > :27:54.particularly of course things The problem is that the

:27:55. > :27:58.Renault-Nissan alliance makes all its plants bid

:27:59. > :28:00.against each other for big So Sunderland could be competing

:28:01. > :28:07.against a Renault plant in Spain say What we've been told

:28:08. > :28:10.is that the bidding to build the latest model of the Qashqai

:28:11. > :28:13.is expected to come at the end That car wouldn't even be

:28:14. > :28:17.launched until 2020. But, in the car industry, these

:28:18. > :28:20.decisions are made years in advance. So where does Sunderland stand

:28:21. > :28:22.in that bidding process? Will it be able to bid at all,

:28:23. > :28:26.given that UK investment is on hold Or would it have to include

:28:27. > :28:29.potential tariffs in its bid, which of course would be a real

:28:30. > :28:32.disadvantage against rivals? What we're being told is that

:28:33. > :28:37.people just don't know. Qashqai accounts for about 60%

:28:38. > :28:42.of Sunderland production currently. Nissan has told us today that

:28:43. > :28:48.it's company policy not to comment And we're not saying that Sunderland

:28:49. > :28:55.will lose production of the Qashqai - it's a big, very efficient,

:28:56. > :29:02.very productive plant. But it's not as hard as you might

:29:03. > :29:04.think to move production A lot of Nissan and Renault cars are

:29:05. > :29:12.basically built on the same base. Nissan has been pretty clear that it

:29:13. > :29:15.wants some answers about Brexit before it makes new investment

:29:16. > :29:18.decisions - and it's in the UK's interest

:29:19. > :29:21.to get things sorted Is it going to get those answers

:29:22. > :29:26.before this very significant decision coming up at the end

:29:27. > :29:40.of next year? I will be continuing the

:29:41. > :29:41.conversation with Mick Lynch on the Facebook page.

:29:42. > :29:55.at risk our country's national security.

:29:56. > :30:00.Up and down over the next few days. But the weekend is looking pretty

:30:01. > :30:04.promising. A promising start to the day for many of us. The odd shower

:30:05. > :30:08.across eastern counties but it will be damp early on across Northern

:30:09. > :30:11.Ireland and the rain will be moving across the Irish Sea. It rather

:30:12. > :30:15.dreary scene across Northern Ireland for much of the day with rain

:30:16. > :30:16.extending into the western half of