:00:00. > :00:08.This is the plan to deliver them, and to set Britain
:00:09. > :00:19.You learn a lot about a Prime Minister by the enemies
:00:20. > :00:22.Theresa May takes on the educational establishment.
:00:23. > :00:30.We're joined by the Head of Westminster School,
:00:31. > :00:44.As election season hots up in France, the father of the far
:00:45. > :00:47.right, Jean-Marie Le Pen, tells Newsnight he has no regrets.
:00:48. > :00:59.And after banning this Vietnam War photo for indecency,
:01:00. > :01:16.We talk to the Norwegian writer who started the whole debate.
:01:17. > :01:19.It was never going to be a popular move with
:01:20. > :01:24.Nor indeed, with the Education Secretary she recently fired.
:01:25. > :01:26.Theresa May has shown an appetite for a battle
:01:27. > :01:29.that may well get the grass roots Conservatives on her side.
:01:30. > :01:32.But huge swathes of the educational establishment
:01:33. > :01:37.Today, she insisted the grammar schools she envisioned
:01:38. > :01:39.were a thing of the future, not the past.
:01:40. > :01:42.She called for faith schools to grow and -
:01:43. > :01:45.in a shot at the sector of privilege - demanded more from private schools
:01:46. > :01:50.in return for the tax breaks they get from their charitable status.
:01:51. > :01:54.Chris Cook, whose film yesterday anticipated many of
:01:55. > :01:57.the fine details of today's speech, asks if she's chosen a fight
:01:58. > :02:03.When she first arrived in Downing Street, Theresa May said
:02:04. > :02:09.she didn't want to lead just a Brexit Government, and she won't.
:02:10. > :02:11.As part of a broad education package, today,
:02:12. > :02:20.I want to relax the restrictions that stop selective
:02:21. > :02:22.schools from expanding, that deny parents the right
:02:23. > :02:25.to have a new selective school open where they want one,
:02:26. > :02:27.and that stop existing nonselective schools from becoming selective
:02:28. > :02:29.in the right circumstances and where there is demand.
:02:30. > :02:31.New grammar schools would require new legislation,
:02:32. > :02:33.but it's far from clear the Government has much
:02:34. > :02:39.of a majority on this in the House of Commons.
:02:40. > :02:42.They certainly don't have one at all in the House of Lords.
:02:43. > :02:44.Lots of that opposition to this idea comes from the experience
:02:45. > :02:47.and evidence from the old grammar system, and the remaining grammar
:02:48. > :02:51.That is perhaps part of why Theresa May was so keen to stress
:02:52. > :02:55.that these new grammar schools would be something new altogether.
:02:56. > :02:57.They would, for example, be required to take a certain number
:02:58. > :03:05.That would help with the main concern about grammars,
:03:06. > :03:09.One chain of grammars does it already, but it's
:03:10. > :03:12.There's a lot of work involved to persuade parents
:03:13. > :03:15.that a grammar school education is right for their children.
:03:16. > :03:19.We've probably been more successful in doing that in some of the Asian
:03:20. > :03:22.parts of the city than in the white working-class parts.
:03:23. > :03:26.That's not to do with the ability of the children, it's more
:03:27. > :03:28.that the outreach has to be more intensive.
:03:29. > :03:40.Academics remain sceptical, though, about this idea.
:03:41. > :03:43.The poor kids who are going to do well in the
:03:44. > :03:46.11 plus or not a random sample, they are probably from family
:03:47. > :03:47.backgrounds that are good in some way,
:03:48. > :03:49.supportive families, interested in education, very possibly from
:03:50. > :03:54.And kids who would probably do well in the system anyway.
:03:55. > :03:57.Rather than have the schools benefit from the
:03:58. > :03:59.presence of these good, intelligent and motivated poor kids,
:04:00. > :04:04.they will be taken out of those schools and
:04:05. > :04:06.put into these elite schools, leaving behind
:04:07. > :04:07.all of these other kids who
:04:08. > :04:09.would benefit from interacting with them.
:04:10. > :04:19.The so-called 50% rule is set to go, an admission rule for faith schools
:04:20. > :04:21.that discouraged new Catholic faith schools in particular.
:04:22. > :04:23.The 50% rule means that if you build a new school
:04:24. > :04:30.and it is oversubscribed, you are not allowed to select
:04:31. > :04:36.For us, that means that if we build a new
:04:37. > :04:40.Catholic school in an area where there is demand from parents for a
:04:41. > :04:42.Catholic education, we then have to turn
:04:43. > :04:44.50% away because they are
:04:45. > :04:50.Catholic, and that neither makes sense, nor does it fit in with our
:04:51. > :04:51.charitable trust deeds under which we operate,
:04:52. > :04:53.and the canon law of the
:04:54. > :05:00.I have always been relaxed about faith schools, but in the last
:05:01. > :05:05.few years I have become more nervous.
:05:06. > :05:09.More segregation is not to be encouraged, so I am nervous
:05:10. > :05:11.about the proposals, and I think that a lot
:05:12. > :05:13.of people in the House of Lords
:05:14. > :05:15.will be nervous about those proposals.
:05:16. > :05:23.The speech contained a commitment to force private schools to hate state
:05:24. > :05:30.schools, with a bit of a threat. Through charitable status, private
:05:31. > :05:34.schools reduce their tax bills by millions every year, and I want to
:05:35. > :05:39.consult on how we can amend guidance for private schools to enact a
:05:40. > :05:44.tougher test on the amount of public benefit to be derived to maintain
:05:45. > :05:48.charitable status. You might be surprised that hearing a
:05:49. > :05:51.Conservative having a go at private schools, because the party has
:05:52. > :05:54.historically offended their interests. If you look at the
:05:55. > :06:00.Independent schools Council website, you can see that they proudly record
:06:01. > :06:06.the lowest fee increase this year since 1994, but its 3.3%. That's a
:06:07. > :06:19.lot. The average cost of a private sixth form this year is ?21,000 a
:06:20. > :06:24.year. Private schools are now havens of the ultrarich where they used to
:06:25. > :06:27.educate the spine of the middle-class political
:06:28. > :06:31.establishment. All of the changes together will not generate as much
:06:32. > :06:35.heat as the idea of selection. If you look at the last 15 years or so,
:06:36. > :06:40.there has been a group of people across the parties who have been
:06:41. > :06:46.determined to move the whole skiffs -- school system are stop at times
:06:47. > :06:50.that has been controversial and we have taken radical decisions, but
:06:51. > :06:53.there has been consensus. I think there is a real expectation that
:06:54. > :06:57.this will break the consensus, and I think that is a shame, because it
:06:58. > :07:00.has been important to schools and teachers that they feel there has
:07:01. > :07:08.been a broad level of support behind the changes. The Theresa May plan
:07:09. > :07:13.for schools faces huge obstacles, principally parliament, but whatever
:07:14. > :07:14.comes now, one thing is clear: Things changed when the Prime
:07:15. > :07:16.Minister did. Let's talk now about the policy
:07:17. > :07:19.and the politics of all this. With me are Patrick Derham,
:07:20. > :07:21.headmaster of Westminster School, one of the top independent
:07:22. > :07:24.schools in the country, and Conservative MP
:07:25. > :07:25.Mark Field, in whose constituency Also here are Anne McElvoy,
:07:26. > :07:32.senior editor at The Economist, and Philip Collins, chief leader
:07:33. > :07:43.writer at The Times. A warm welcome to you all. Thanks
:07:44. > :07:48.for coming in. We heard from Nicky Morgan, the woman whom your party
:07:49. > :07:51.charged with the nation's education until July, calling these ideas at
:07:52. > :07:56.best a distraction from crucial reforms, and at worst, undermining
:07:57. > :08:06.six years of progressive education. This is pushing things backwards.
:08:07. > :08:09.Things have moved on. Since July. They certainly have moved on from
:08:10. > :08:14.Nicky Morgan. She is no longer in position, and we have a new Prime
:08:15. > :08:19.Minister with a passion for getting a great meritocracy, as she rightly
:08:20. > :08:24.put it. Personally, I think we have seen over the last 20 years
:08:25. > :08:28.prominent politicians of all parties utilising this in a crude
:08:29. > :08:31.calculation in the way they look at an intervention. I think one of the
:08:32. > :08:35.great things about this speech from Theresa May is that it comes from
:08:36. > :08:40.the heart. There is an authentic sense of where she sees education
:08:41. > :08:43.needs to be. What has changed since the 23rd of June is that we are now
:08:44. > :08:51.in the throes of removing ourselves from the European Union. I think it
:08:52. > :08:54.is easy to try and say that this is an old Tory ideological battle
:08:55. > :08:58.coming back. I think it is fundamentally different. If you'll
:08:59. > :09:02.forgive me, what hasn't changed is the evidence which suggests that
:09:03. > :09:06.this hurt the poor. It leaves more people behind than it takes with it.
:09:07. > :09:11.The important thing to recognise that our brightest children from the
:09:12. > :09:20.poorest households have a special educational needs that is not being
:09:21. > :09:22.looked after. It is simply a matter -- if you think it is simply a
:09:23. > :09:28.matter for those with difficulties, this is fundamental. London results
:09:29. > :09:34.are pretty good. You don't need grammar schools. We do. Ask Chinese
:09:35. > :09:37.and Bangladeshi families in my constituency, and they would like
:09:38. > :09:40.nothing more than to see the brightest and best... The change
:09:41. > :09:45.that has taken place since June is that we are in a very competitive
:09:46. > :09:49.world out there. China and India are big nations going forward, and those
:09:50. > :09:55.who want to invest in UK companies for the future will want to see a
:09:56. > :10:00.properly fully educated workforce. Elitism should not be a bad word in
:10:01. > :10:05.the way it has been too often in this debate. Patrick, did you hear a
:10:06. > :10:10.litres or excellence as a bad word when Theresa May was talking about
:10:11. > :10:19.what the private sector must do and that thread about charitable status?
:10:20. > :10:24.-- elitism. I think she recognised the huge contribution that the
:10:25. > :10:28.independent sector makes to the issue of mobility, which is a real
:10:29. > :10:32.concern for myself personally, but also for my colleagues. And she
:10:33. > :10:35.recognised that we are part of the solution and not the problem. I've
:10:36. > :10:39.argued for a long time that we need to change the debate and to look
:10:40. > :10:46.more critically at what is going on. The interesting thing for me is, she
:10:47. > :10:50.picked up on capacity and capability for some schools and recognise there
:10:51. > :10:55.is not a one size fits all solution, which I think is important. She
:10:56. > :10:59.recognised that there needs to be a degree of proportionality, that not
:11:00. > :11:02.all schools of the same. There is a mythology about the independent
:11:03. > :11:09.sector and the type of pupils go to them. And I think she recognised
:11:10. > :11:12.that by what she said. She also recognise that the schools of
:11:13. > :11:16.immense privilege have charitable status for tax breaks, and a lot of
:11:17. > :11:20.the public will say, why on earth are they getting those? Because we
:11:21. > :11:26.are contributing to the greater good in all sorts of ways. Some examples
:11:27. > :11:32.- she name checks Westminster and the work we're doing with the Harris
:11:33. > :11:35.Federation. Not all independent schools are like Westminster and
:11:36. > :11:43.eaten. You think there is room for many of them to do more? Lots of
:11:44. > :11:47.them do not have the huge playing field. And ovary were
:11:48. > :11:53.# And overwhelming proportion of independent schools are affected. It
:11:54. > :11:56.is not just the sponsoring of academies and free schools or the
:11:57. > :12:04.provision of bursaries, though that was the talk in 2010. One bursaries,
:12:05. > :12:08.look at the ground-breaking work that has been done by some of them
:12:09. > :12:10.in fundraising and really reaching out to underprivileged members of
:12:11. > :12:16.the community will stop look at the Arnold foundation, started at Rugby,
:12:17. > :12:21.which has given birth to Springboard, a national charity, and
:12:22. > :12:25.private schools raising aspirations amongst those most in need of that
:12:26. > :12:30.type of education. You raise an interesting point. Does it surprise
:12:31. > :12:38.you that as a Tory Prime Minister stepping into this debate -- is it
:12:39. > :12:45.surprise you that there is a Tory Prime Minister. Going back to the
:12:46. > :12:49.Tory DNA on grammar schools, very brave and bold, but not so difficult
:12:50. > :12:53.for her to do. You can see she clearly believes it. She is a
:12:54. > :12:56.beneficiary herself of grammars goals, and she believes she can
:12:57. > :13:00.deliver more meritocracy through it. A lot of people will doubt it, but
:13:01. > :13:04.she will get the chance to make the case. Her whole pitch as Prime
:13:05. > :13:12.Minister after David Cameron, who was a bit of a posh boy, was not
:13:13. > :13:16.being like that. Trying to engage the private sector more and turning
:13:17. > :13:21.the screws to an extent on the private sector is something she is
:13:22. > :13:28.serious about. I have to do -- disagree with Patrick. The Academy
:13:29. > :13:32.'s chains and private schools got involved, and sometimes they walked
:13:33. > :13:35.away when it got difficult. They will find their feet will be held to
:13:36. > :13:40.the fire to deliver a bit more, and that may be no bad thing. All we
:13:41. > :13:44.have heard about for the last six years is academies and free schools,
:13:45. > :13:49.and suddenly everyone is on board behind Theresa May and grammar
:13:50. > :13:54.schools are the rage. It is a big change in rhetoric. The first half
:13:55. > :13:58.was real boilerplate. Every Prime Minister makes that speech after
:13:59. > :14:03.review weeks. They all talk about meritocracy. Everyone has done it.
:14:04. > :14:08.Did you write that for Tony Blair? Yes. I didn't write the one today,
:14:09. > :14:12.but I could have done. It was cut and paste from things I have done
:14:13. > :14:17.with a bit of rhetorical flourish. The second half of the speech wasn't
:14:18. > :14:21.as good as that. When you get to the policy things, I think there are
:14:22. > :14:24.some problems buried in there. I think it will be difficult to do.
:14:25. > :14:30.You're talking about grammar schools particularly? Yes. That is partly
:14:31. > :14:34.the politics within Westminster, the parliament rather than the school or
:14:35. > :14:39.the constituency. The politics of grammar schools are difficult over
:14:40. > :14:43.time. Any policy which takes 20% of people and says, your school is
:14:44. > :14:46.better than the other 80%, the arithmetic is not good. Can I go to
:14:47. > :14:57.an educationalist for one second? I think the interesting thing about
:14:58. > :15:01.her speech was what she didn't say. The key thing is not the school
:15:02. > :15:05.structure, it is the quality of the interaction between a pupil and
:15:06. > :15:10.teacher. The real issue facing this country, and quite a lot of the
:15:11. > :15:12.Western world is the issue of teacher recruitment, teacher
:15:13. > :15:16.retention and the quality of teaching. I also think what she
:15:17. > :15:20.didn't talk about was, I am not convinced, I think we need to take a
:15:21. > :15:37.step back and say is tinkering with school structure
:15:38. > :15:41.is the the real issue for me is too often governments in this country
:15:42. > :15:43.have brought into schools can fix mentality, and I think there is a
:15:44. > :15:46.real problem with that. I think there is an issue about empowering
:15:47. > :15:48.parents and what has not been touched on is the issue of technical
:15:49. > :15:51.schools. It is a very technical process where you share grammar
:15:52. > :15:54.schools with a lot of other people. I want to touch on the issue of
:15:55. > :15:59.mandate. Where does this come from and who supports that? I think we
:16:00. > :16:06.know a lot of the Conservative Party supports it. The mandate question,
:16:07. > :16:10.the technical understanding of it, in terms of how the Lords will view
:16:11. > :16:16.it if it wasn't in the manifesto, then her right to overrule this very
:16:17. > :16:21.dubious indeed, I have a bit of sympathy to her and any government,
:16:22. > :16:24.which changes after such a disruption, as Brexit and the change
:16:25. > :16:33.of leadership in the Conservative Party, she is not going to get up
:16:34. > :16:37.there and do a David Cameron... Are you saying this is a massively fresh
:16:38. > :16:39.sheet and you can get away with it? There is no constitutional
:16:40. > :16:44.requirement to seek an extra mandate. So you don't think this is
:16:45. > :16:49.part of a ploy to bring forward an election if she loses? I doubt it
:16:50. > :16:54.is, actually. In my view she would be well advised to have an election.
:16:55. > :16:57.She could crucify the Labour Party and gain the majority I think she
:16:58. > :17:02.might need to get some of these things through. She doesn't have any
:17:03. > :17:07.votes to get this through? I think she will have the votes in the
:17:08. > :17:11.Commons. One reason why the issue of independent schools has been brought
:17:12. > :17:16.up here, and it will put more flesh on the bones of technical schools,
:17:17. > :17:20.it will be part of parcel of a more broad review of education. How can
:17:21. > :17:28.you be confident that you will get this through? We heard from Michael
:17:29. > :17:34.Wilshaw, the ex-head of the Hackney Academy, part of that academy's
:17:35. > :17:41.push, a lot of people have committed years of their life to the academies
:17:42. > :17:45.programme. And a lot of Conservative ministers were committed to the
:17:46. > :17:50.academies programme. There is no mention of it. That is a bit
:17:51. > :17:55.problematic. We are just wrapping up. The last word. I am not
:17:56. > :17:59.convinced there will be many schools that will go for it. The conditions
:18:00. > :18:05.for doing the grammar school bit quite onerous. I am not convinced
:18:06. > :18:06.that there will be many schools which will find that attractive.
:18:07. > :18:09.Thank you for coming in. In France, election season
:18:10. > :18:11.is kicking into gear. Former President Nicolas Sarkozy has
:18:12. > :18:14.thrown his hat into the ring, for the centre-right Republican
:18:15. > :18:16.Party. The incumbent, Francois Hollande
:18:17. > :18:19.hasn't said whether he'll run again. Some in his centre-left
:18:20. > :18:20.Socialist Party would like to replace him,
:18:21. > :18:23.given that his popularity ratings There's really only one thing
:18:24. > :18:26.you can say for certain about this election, and that is
:18:27. > :18:29.that Marine Le Pen So what does the rise of the far
:18:30. > :18:34.right mean for French politics? Gabriel Gatehouse has sent this
:18:35. > :18:46.report from Paris. The wheel of political
:18:47. > :18:50.fortunes is turning. A centre-left president
:18:51. > :18:52.with the lowest approval ratings in French history
:18:53. > :18:56.is fighting for survival. His predecessor from
:18:57. > :18:59.the centre-right whom once claimed that dubious honour for himself
:19:00. > :19:04.is trying to stage a comeback. But the real winner might be
:19:05. > :19:08.someone quite unexpected, someone who doesn't
:19:09. > :19:11.really feel much like Jean-Marie Le Pen's days of standing
:19:12. > :19:28.for president are long gone. The 88-year-old veteran
:19:29. > :19:30.of France's colonial wars is, in many ways a has-been,
:19:31. > :19:32.sidelined and then expelled by his own daughter from the party
:19:33. > :19:36.he founded 45 years ago. But the Front National is riding
:19:37. > :19:40.high in the polls, and Mr Le Pen's right-wing anti-immigration rhetoric
:19:41. > :20:17.is stiking the right chord. Jean-Marie's daughter,
:20:18. > :20:20.Marine Le Pen, will almost certainly reach the second round run-off
:20:21. > :20:24.is in the presidential election. She has modernised the party,
:20:25. > :20:28.tried to detoxify the brand, but at heart says Le Pen pere,
:20:29. > :20:30.the Front National message remains Such sentiments may be bluntly
:20:31. > :21:18.expressed, but they are no longer In the aftermath of the attacks
:21:19. > :21:25.in Paris and Nice, the most devastating attacks on French soil,
:21:26. > :21:28.this election will be fought largely on the issues of who should be
:21:29. > :21:32.allowed in this country who was nicknamed the hyper
:21:33. > :21:42.president, the diminutive is pitching for his second
:21:43. > :21:49.round of the presidency. Nicolas Sarkozy is running on the
:21:50. > :21:56.slogan "Everything for France." It is a rallying cry calculated
:21:57. > :22:00.to appeal to nationalist sentiment. It is also a play on a previous
:22:01. > :22:04.slogan from a previous centre-right president, Jacques Chirac,
:22:05. > :22:08.in the mid-'90s, who ran under This inversion tells you everything
:22:09. > :22:15.you need to know about how far mainstream political discourse has
:22:16. > :22:27.moved to the right. Sarko's talk is all about
:22:28. > :22:31.borders, about identity. Never mind the burkini,
:22:32. > :22:34.he says he wants to widen the ban on wearing the veil in public,
:22:35. > :22:37.and he said he wants to rewrite the law which says if you're born
:22:38. > :22:50.in France you can become a citizen. To some, such rhetoric sounds
:22:51. > :22:54.straight out of a Front National playbook, but Sarkozy's
:22:55. > :22:57.supporters say he is simply Meanwhile, the Muslim community,
:22:58. > :23:20.nearly 5 million strong, might be excused for feeling
:23:21. > :23:23.a little under siege. As the political temperature rises,
:23:24. > :23:26.parties of all persuasions seem to be focusing much of the national
:23:27. > :23:29.angst on to the question of And some fear it has disturbing
:23:30. > :23:38.implications for the cherished When you see policemen on the beach
:23:39. > :23:45.asking, ordering women to undress, we are not anymore
:23:46. > :23:49.in a state of law. and it is dangerous
:23:50. > :23:59.for freedoms, in fact. None of this is worrying Le Pen
:24:00. > :24:01.in the slightly surreal grandeur It is not hard to see why
:24:02. > :24:06.he supports Donald Trump. He is also an admirer of
:24:07. > :24:09.Vladimir Putin, a man of authority But what does he say to those
:24:10. > :24:16.who accuse him of poisoning the well If history is anything to go by,
:24:17. > :24:52.Marine Le Pen will make it through the first round and then
:24:53. > :24:55.lose to an anyone-but-Le-Pen But these are not normal times,
:24:56. > :25:02.and whether she wins or loses, some of the values she inherited
:25:03. > :25:05.from her father are making an ever But the problem arises
:25:06. > :25:22.when the image in question is considered one of the most
:25:23. > :25:25.important of the 20th century - like this one, the Pulitzer Prize
:25:26. > :25:27.winning Napalm Girl The image was recently posted
:25:28. > :25:33.by Norwegian novelist Tom Egeland as part of a piece on photographs
:25:34. > :25:37.that had changed history. It was soon removed by Facebook,
:25:38. > :25:39.sparking outrage and the editor of Norway's largest printed
:25:40. > :25:42.newspaper to write an open letter The iconic image was widely shared -
:25:43. > :25:47.including by the Norwegian prime minister, until her
:25:48. > :25:53.post was also removed. Just before we came on air,
:25:54. > :25:56.Facebook reversed its decision But does this call into question
:25:57. > :26:04.both the power and the judgement We're joined now by the Norwegian
:26:05. > :26:17.Writer - Tom Egeland - And Tom, thank you for joining us
:26:18. > :26:21.this evening. Do you have any sympathy with an organisation that
:26:22. > :26:28.on one hand says it is not responsible enough, and on the other
:26:29. > :26:35.says it is guilty of censorship? Well, yes, and in fact, I support
:26:36. > :26:41.Facebook's policy against nakedness. We don't want pawn on Facebook so
:26:42. > :26:51.the disagreement and the great disagreement in this case is whether
:26:52. > :26:56.or not the iconic picture of this Vietnamese girl is about nakedness.
:26:57. > :27:01.To me, it is not. It is a picture about war, about horror and about
:27:02. > :27:12.children who are victims of war crimes. And fortunately, Facebook
:27:13. > :27:19.tonight realised that their rather harsh judgment on this picture was
:27:20. > :27:24.wrong and they have reversed their standpoint. It is a difficult one
:27:25. > :27:29.where there is so much content and there is one algorithm. To take an
:27:30. > :27:35.example, there was a young naked Syrian girl from a war that is still
:27:36. > :27:41.going on and that was pictured on Facebook, would you consider that to
:27:42. > :27:48.be a moment of history and war, or abuse and exposure? And that is the
:27:49. > :27:58.exact dilemma that has made me want to focus on this case. Because,
:27:59. > :28:05.unlike BBC, unlike the times, or newspapers, Facebook does not have
:28:06. > :28:10.an editor. Facebook does not have an institution where somebody evaluates
:28:11. > :28:18.different aspects and different values regarding a picture. To
:28:19. > :28:23.Facebook, the world is a set of algorithms and rules. Do you think
:28:24. > :28:31.it should be an arbiter or should it just be a platform? They insist they
:28:32. > :28:39.are a technological platform. I disagree. Facebook is so huge. It
:28:40. > :28:47.has so many followers, and all over the world, newspapers use Facebook
:28:48. > :28:57.as a platform for not only spreading their news, but also their reader
:28:58. > :29:04.comment. If Facebook's rule should overrule any newspaper rules, then
:29:05. > :29:10.who is the editor? So in my view, Facebook should have, not only
:29:11. > :29:15.editors, they should have national editors. So you would actually want
:29:16. > :29:21.to see Facebook becoming, if you like, a world editor of other
:29:22. > :29:28.journals and other publications who use it? In many ways, Facebook is
:29:29. > :29:36.already those things. In certain regions of the world, Facebook and
:29:37. > :29:43.the Internet are the same. Two people, Internet is Facebook. If you
:29:44. > :29:49.see all the newspapers that use Facebook today, I find it hard to
:29:50. > :29:54.differentiate between a technological platform and an
:29:55. > :29:58.editorial platform. Tom Egeland, it is fascinating to speak to you.
:29:59. > :30:02.Thank you for sharing your story will with us. Tom Egeland, the
:30:03. > :30:05.Norwegian writer who we understand is still currently banned from
:30:06. > :30:08.Facebook. That's all tonight, but before
:30:09. > :30:10.we go, an extraordinary rescue operation in one of the most
:30:11. > :30:13.dramatic locations on earth. More than 100 tourists were stranded
:30:14. > :30:16.yesterday at an altitude of more than 12,000 ft above the glaciers
:30:17. > :30:18.of Mont Blanc after wires carrying their cable
:30:19. > :30:20.cars became tangled. It took some extraordinary flying
:30:21. > :30:22.and an aerial ballet worthy of any Bond film before the first
:30:23. > :30:24.passengers were rescued by helicopter, and it's given us
:30:25. > :30:27.some pretty spectacular pictures. MUSIC: "You Only Live
:30:28. > :31:51.Twice" by John Barry The weather looks mixed over the
:31:52. > :31:55.weekend. This weather front will pop up at times, bringing rain through
:31:56. > :31:57.central and south-eastern parts of England. Breezy and cloudy here.