:00:00. > :00:08.Ceasefire in Syria - but not for Islamic State
:00:09. > :00:12.and the jihadists formerly known as Nusra Front.
:00:13. > :00:14.A leading figure exclusively tells Newsnight that America and Russia
:00:15. > :00:16.can't carry out their plan to hit them without hitting
:00:17. > :00:23.It's not uncommon to have one family with members from several groups
:00:24. > :00:28.They go fight and they come back to their houses, with their
:00:29. > :00:34.JFS is deeply embedded in society and cannot be singled
:00:35. > :00:38.And can this really alleviate the suffering?
:00:39. > :00:42.We film an extraodinary operation in Aleppo guided
:00:43. > :00:48.Hilary Clinton is unwell - she cancels campaigning
:00:49. > :00:50.because of a bout of pneumonia, diagnosed but not
:00:51. > :00:55.Now Donald Trump is to release his medical records.
:00:56. > :00:58.We hear from former candidate Howard Dean.
:00:59. > :01:02.Well, that's what the press does, the press doesn't like people's
:01:03. > :01:07.privacy, as we say on this side of the Atlantic, so they resent it.
:01:08. > :01:09.But if you had Hillary Clinton with the experience of the press,
:01:10. > :01:14.The founder of the Daily Beast, Tina Brown, is here to
:01:15. > :01:18.I can't believe this has happened to me!
:01:19. > :01:21.It's all gone horribly wrong for the BBC.
:01:22. > :01:23.Bake Off, which delivered ten million viewers and headlines
:01:24. > :01:26.galore, is leaving the broadcaster for the Channel 4 kitchen
:01:27. > :01:30.First Top Gear, then The Voice, now this.
:01:31. > :01:37.Should the BBC do what it takes to keep their best show,
:01:38. > :01:40.or is there a limit to the money? We'll ask former BBC One controller
:01:41. > :01:51.executive Lorraine Hegassy what she would have done.
:01:52. > :01:56.Just before the ceasefire in Syria which started six hours ago
:01:57. > :01:59.President Assad vowed to take back the whole of Syria from rebel groups
:02:00. > :02:02.in an interview broadcast on state media.
:02:03. > :02:05.The seven day ceasefire includes improved humanitarian access
:02:06. > :02:12.and joint US Russian targeting of hardline extremists,
:02:13. > :02:16.but a big challenge is how to separate nationalist rebels
:02:17. > :02:18.from jihadists, especially as the grouping formerly
:02:19. > :02:21.known as the Nusra Front, which has been playing a vital role
:02:22. > :02:26.Our reporter Secunder Kermani has had an exclusive interview
:02:27. > :02:29.with a representative of the jihadi group.
:02:30. > :02:42.On the Muslim festival of sackrifies more bloodshed as regime planes
:02:43. > :02:48.bombed rebel held Aleppo, ahead of the ceasefire coming into effect.
:02:49. > :02:51.A deal is meant to bring a week of peace allowing aid into besieged
:02:52. > :02:57.areas. It is no long-term solution though.
:02:58. > :03:00.Assad performed triumph fall prayers in a district newly captured from
:03:01. > :03:06.rebels. And vowed to take the entire
:03:07. > :03:11.country. Opposition representatives haven't formally signed a deal, and
:03:12. > :03:17.many in rebel areas, while glad of any pause in fighting are sceptical.
:03:18. > :03:22.One of the key elms in the deal is if the ceasefire holds for a week,
:03:23. > :03:30.instead of Assad's Air Force America and Russia will set up a joint
:03:31. > :03:37.command, they say to target Isis, and the Jihadist group JFS.
:03:38. > :03:41.JFS were until recently called Nusra and were Al-Qaeda's affiliate in
:03:42. > :03:49.Syria. They officially severed ties with
:03:50. > :03:53.Al-Qaeda. Unlike Isis, they fought a long side mainstream rebel groups
:03:54. > :03:56.and have been key in breaking the regime siege of Aleppo. JFS
:03:57. > :04:01.spokesman answered questions I e-mails to him about the plans to
:04:02. > :04:05.target them. The question is where do they think it exists? They are
:04:06. > :04:10.not on another planet. They are parliament of the Syrian society. It
:04:11. > :04:13.is not uncommon to have one family with members from several groups
:04:14. > :04:19.living in the same house. They go fight and come back to their house,
:04:20. > :04:23.with their family, with civilians. JFS is deeply embedded in society,
:04:24. > :04:29.and cannot be singled out in any way. They don't govern, and area on
:04:30. > :04:35.their own, they are not exclusive to any particular location. America and
:04:36. > :04:44.Russia know this very very well. This map shows areas under control
:04:45. > :04:49.by different factions in Syria. Isis territory is demarcated but JFS
:04:50. > :04:53.jointly controlled areas alongside rebel groups and that ignored the
:04:54. > :04:58.complicated aligns in many place, it seems the US is trying to split the
:04:59. > :05:02.other rebels away from JFS but they are seen as a powerful ally It is
:05:03. > :05:09.seen as a Syrian movement, standing up for Syrians and fighting the
:05:10. > :05:13.regime. They are effective particularly in recent offensives in
:05:14. > :05:19.Aleppo. It makes no sense to peel away from them. In some ways some of
:05:20. > :05:25.the rebel groups could see this as divide and rule by the great powers
:05:26. > :05:30.and ignore it. JFS has concentrated on attacking
:05:31. > :05:35.the Assad regime but some say despite the official break, they are
:05:36. > :05:38.still Al-Qaeda and still a danger. Something their spokesman denies. We
:05:39. > :05:45.have been very clear about our split but I will say it again, JFS is not
:05:46. > :05:48.an affiliate of Al-Qaeda. We are an independent body working to
:05:49. > :05:52.establish the common goals of the revolutionary forces in Syria.
:05:53. > :05:58.I asked if that means they oppose events like 9/11? As for 9/11 that
:05:59. > :06:04.happened 15 years ago, and is completely irrelevant to what is
:06:05. > :06:09.happening in Syrian today. Would you ask Obama to be responsible for
:06:10. > :06:12.policies that the United States had in Japan, or Vietnam, or South
:06:13. > :06:18.America under previous admin straights? Obviously not. Our
:06:19. > :06:22.policies are clear, and that is all that matters.
:06:23. > :06:26.The coalition of other rebel groups have tonight indicated they will
:06:27. > :06:30.abide by the ceasefire. But they have also strongly criticised the
:06:31. > :06:35.plans to attack JFS, this could be one of the key flaws that leads to
:06:36. > :06:39.the ceasefire's downfall. JFS was not established to fight
:06:40. > :06:45.anyone except the Assad regime and whoever allies with him. Who are the
:06:46. > :06:49.terrorists? Hezbollah and the PKK both terrorist organisations,
:06:50. > :06:54.according to the US, and they are actively and opening fighting in
:06:55. > :06:59.Syria, why are they not targeted For now the ceasefire appears to be
:07:00. > :07:02.holding but for many in city like Aleppo, a temporary peace is not
:07:03. > :07:07.enough. My wife told me that after sunset we
:07:08. > :07:13.will go out, because it is a ceasefire. Now we are able to, I can
:07:14. > :07:19.go with you and our daughter without being afraid, or scared about, a bit
:07:20. > :07:25.of life, but in general, we want better, we want, what we want, it is
:07:26. > :07:27.freedom, OK, to remove Assad. Families tonight have some respite
:07:28. > :07:36.from the bombs but for how long? What happens in rebel held parts of
:07:37. > :07:39.Syria when hospital doctors are under constant pressure from
:07:40. > :07:45.bombing, lack of equipment, and even lack of experience. Well, in Aleppo,
:07:46. > :07:48.they call for David knot, the British doctor who specialises in
:07:49. > :07:54.emergency scare in war zones and training doctors under fire, this
:07:55. > :07:59.week, however, he lent a hand remotely, advising in an operation
:08:00. > :08:06.via Skype. John Sweeney was there as he oversaw the reconstruction of a
:08:07. > :08:12.man's jaw after an attack. Under ground and under siege. A rare
:08:13. > :08:16.glimpse into an operating theatre in Aleppo. Hollywood doesn't do the
:08:17. > :08:23.reality of war, so this is what it looks like. When a man has his jaw
:08:24. > :08:29.blown off. In rebel held Syria, being a doctor is a dangerous game.
:08:30. > :08:35.754 doctors have been actively killed in the north of Syria, since
:08:36. > :08:39.the conflict started in 2011, and it suggested that being a medic or even
:08:40. > :08:44.a patient in a hospital is probably the worst place you possibly can be
:08:45. > :08:48.in, because hospitals are targeted constantly, doctors are targeted
:08:49. > :08:54.constantly. Mohammed was hit they say by a Russian bomb which also
:08:55. > :08:58.killed two of his friends. They have never done a jaw reconstruction
:08:59. > :09:04.before, but if they don't, the chances for this father of three are
:09:05. > :09:09.slim. David Knot is a London surgeon who went to Aleppo two years ago to
:09:10. > :09:15.train surgeon, now they have asked him to direct the jaw operation via
:09:16. > :09:21.Skype and what's app. How exciting is this? It is one of the most
:09:22. > :09:24.exciting things I have done. Being able to direct surgeons who are I
:09:25. > :09:27.have trained, I have trained them when I was this in Syria, they know
:09:28. > :09:32.me and they have confidence in me that I know them, I have confidence
:09:33. > :09:35.in them, I know what they can do, sow between the two of us, we can do
:09:36. > :09:43.this operation. -- so. We believe this is a world
:09:44. > :09:46.first. A selfie stick being used to transport an eminent London surgeon
:09:47. > :09:54.into a basement hospital in a besieged city. I want you to take an
:09:55. > :10:03.incision which goes to take the whole of the major muscle, so I want
:10:04. > :10:08.you to make an incision, laterally, below the laterally below the
:10:09. > :10:19.nipple, to start to mobilise the major muscle. OK?
:10:20. > :10:28.What about the nipple. I make two flaps and mobilise. That is fine.
:10:29. > :10:32.The challenge is that the doctors are young and enthusiastic but they
:10:33. > :10:38.are inexperienced. David Knot, he knows what he is doing, and the two
:10:39. > :10:43.sets of doctors are connecting with the latest in our amazing digital
:10:44. > :10:51.technology, but of course batteries go down. The line drops out. It is
:10:52. > :10:55.difficult, but nevertheless the two sets of doctors are breaking the
:10:56. > :11:05.siege of Aleppo. There is a small problem here. OK.
:11:06. > :11:08.We can't put two screws... The doctors solve their problem then
:11:09. > :11:13.David explained to me the complexity of the operation. This is the
:11:14. > :11:18.muscle, and this is the muscle which has an artery comes off just below
:11:19. > :11:22.the collarbone, so we preserve that artery, to this muscle, we have put
:11:23. > :11:27.an area of skin on here as well, so we are going to move that right up
:11:28. > :11:32.into the man's jaw, and we are going to put it underneath the metal plate
:11:33. > :11:36.and then the skin goes over the top, so the skin will come here, and the
:11:37. > :11:41.muscle will cover the plate. So you won't know when you look at him he
:11:42. > :11:49.has a plate in his mouth? Correct. You have done a wonderful job today.
:11:50. > :11:55.Thanks to you. How good as Dr Knot been in terms of helping you do this
:11:56. > :12:02.operation? How valuable has been his help, is the question? We are very
:12:03. > :12:13.thankful for Dr Knot, because it's a very difficult and complex
:12:14. > :12:17.operation. We can't do it alone. We need some help, and we can't go
:12:18. > :12:23.outside of Aleppo. We must do it here. This was never about just
:12:24. > :12:27.saving the life of one man. Now that the doctors in Aleppo know the
:12:28. > :12:32.technique, they can operate on other patients. But it is also about
:12:33. > :12:34.reminding them and their patients, that the world has not quite
:12:35. > :12:40.forgotten Aleppo. Joining me now from Washington
:12:41. > :12:42.DC is Farah al Atassi, a spokeswoman for
:12:43. > :12:52.the Syrian opposition Good evening to you. Can we talk
:12:53. > :13:01.about what you make of the ceasefire, do you think the deal is
:13:02. > :13:07.a good one? First of all, they did not receive an official copy of the
:13:08. > :13:12.US-Russian agreement yet, we cannot comment on it in an official way, we
:13:13. > :13:17.need a copy of this agreement so we can analyse it, we can discuss any
:13:18. > :13:22.defaults, in terms of enforcement measurements and then we can give an
:13:23. > :13:27.official statement and response about how do we view this agreement?
:13:28. > :13:34.However, from previous agreements between the Russian and the
:13:35. > :13:37.American, the HNC and other Syrian opposition group responds positively
:13:38. > :13:42.towards any international efforts that will really halt violence in
:13:43. > :13:50.Syria, particularly putting pressure on the Assad regime and his allies
:13:51. > :13:54.in stopping the bombardment and air strikes against civilian targets,
:13:55. > :13:57.including the Russians themselves, so if this agreement really enforced
:13:58. > :14:05.fully by the regime, absolutely we welcome it. And we saw you, images
:14:06. > :14:09.of children out playing on swings tonight, just the inStans youly
:14:10. > :14:14.different feeling they have -- instantaneously feeling they have, I
:14:15. > :14:21.wonder what you think will be the progress of this, what do you think
:14:22. > :14:24.the Russians intention is? As I said, from previous experience of
:14:25. > :14:28.prior agreements between the Russians and the American, it was
:14:29. > :14:34.the Russians who breached the agreements they made themselves,
:14:35. > :14:40.even the day after the agreement was announced, the Russian conducted an
:14:41. > :14:46.air strikes on the suburb of Idlib, and we have around 15 Syrian
:14:47. > :14:49.civilians were killed in that by the Russians themselves, so I said it is
:14:50. > :14:54.premature to assess how this agreement will be workable on the
:14:55. > :14:58.ground, we hope it is will workable on the ground, we we pray it will be
:14:59. > :15:04.workable on the ground, even secretary Carey -- Kerry today he
:15:05. > :15:10.raised some suspicions and he said it might not work well, but we have
:15:11. > :15:15.to wait, just, we need to see how the regime will abide with this
:15:16. > :15:19.agreement, the Armed Forces they always welcomed the channel of the
:15:20. > :15:24.humanitarian aid, and they say they are ready to protect the channel of
:15:25. > :15:29.the humanitarian aid, and they will reflect positively towards this.
:15:30. > :15:33.Earlier in the programme we had a representative of the former Nusra
:15:34. > :15:36.front JFS on the programme, saying that actually because they were very
:15:37. > :15:41.much in the forefront of in the battle for 11 and that I are as it
:15:42. > :15:46.were embedded in different napes and so forth, that the idea of
:15:47. > :15:49.separating them out as a legitimate target, as opposed to moderate
:15:50. > :15:59.opposition is impossible. What do you say to that? I am not a military
:16:00. > :16:03.expert. I can comment on political issue, however, gee graph Che and
:16:04. > :16:10.strategically that statement is true. And realistic because it is so
:16:11. > :16:15.hard to really isolate the civilians places because a lot of this places
:16:16. > :16:21.and areas are besieged by the Syrian regime and Iranian militia, so you
:16:22. > :16:26.cannot really recognise the Free Syrian Army from other armed, you
:16:27. > :16:32.know, maybe for fanatic groups so they are somehow, it is intertwined,
:16:33. > :16:37.that is why we read today a statement by most of the military
:16:38. > :16:44.armed groups on the ground, an article number eight, they are
:16:45. > :16:48.saying clearly that the agreement excludes some forces from the
:16:49. > :16:54.agreement, however, they did not talk about other militia fighting,
:16:55. > :17:01.or militia fighting beside the regime, like Hezbollah, like...
:17:02. > :17:07.All of these forces are on the ground and all of them are
:17:08. > :17:09.intertwined. Thank you for joining us tonight.
:17:10. > :17:12.Now if you caught Newsnight pretty much any night last week you'll know
:17:13. > :17:16.we have taken a keen interest in the progress - or lack of it -
:17:17. > :17:19.of a report by MPs into the use of UK arms by Saudi Arabia
:17:20. > :17:22.Last Tuesday, Gabriel Gatehouse obtained a draft of the report
:17:23. > :17:24.which was highly critical of the Saudis.
:17:25. > :17:27.It found that it was "inevitable" that British weapons had been
:17:28. > :17:31.involved in violations of international law and that arms
:17:32. > :17:34.sales to Saudi were "very possibly in contravention
:17:35. > :17:43.The report called for arms sales to Saudi Arabia
:17:44. > :17:47.But some MPs had other ideas - a second leak revealed how two
:17:48. > :17:50.pro-Saudi MPs were attempting to water down the report.
:17:51. > :17:55.Here's how the report would change if amendments tabled by John Spellar
:17:56. > :17:57.and Crispin Blunt, the influential chair of the Foreign Affairs
:17:58. > :18:05.Last Thursday Blunt came on Newsnight to explain why
:18:06. > :18:15.I also asked him if he'd walked out of the committee to freeze its work
:18:16. > :18:28.That portrays a misunderstanding of how this particular...
:18:29. > :18:30....collection of four committee's works.
:18:31. > :18:36.Whatever comes out of this particular, of the oversight of arms
:18:37. > :18:39.Did you walk out last night, Crispin Blunt?
:18:40. > :18:43.I am not going to talk about a committee process
:18:44. > :18:54.over the lengths Blunt has gone to in order to -
:18:55. > :19:10.Yes, Crispin Blunt is not giving up. He has provided a new report and
:19:11. > :19:14.essentially his acknowledging he will not get the numbers he wants to
:19:15. > :19:18.soften the criticisms of Saudi Arabia and pull back on a ban on
:19:19. > :19:22.arms sales to the kingdom. He is writing what he is describing as an
:19:23. > :19:26.alternative report and he is planning to put that to the
:19:27. > :19:28.committee he chairs, the Foreign Affairs Select Committee, tomorrow
:19:29. > :19:32.afternoon, and he will essentially say to the members of that
:19:33. > :19:36.committee, let's agree to this and tack it onto the end of the report
:19:37. > :19:41.when he is not going to get his way. He may get it just about past his
:19:42. > :19:46.committee but he certainly will not get unanimous agreement for that.
:19:47. > :19:52.And that is not all he is talking about? He says the arms committee,
:19:53. > :19:55.which has defence, foreign affairs, International affairs and the
:19:56. > :19:59.business committee is not working, and he says there should be one
:20:00. > :20:08.select committee that does that work... His? No, he is a senseless
:20:09. > :20:12.chap, he says it should be a new committee. Now, the members of that
:20:13. > :20:15.committee may think the most important thing is to look at the
:20:16. > :20:19.number of exports, rather than ethical questions about arms sales
:20:20. > :20:22.to Saudi Arabia. This evening I spoke to Crispin Blunt and this is
:20:23. > :20:27.what he told me. I have no comment on the private
:20:28. > :20:32.proceeding of my committee or other select committees. When we are in a
:20:33. > :20:35.position to say something publicly then of course I'd be happy to do
:20:36. > :20:38.so. Nick, thank you.
:20:39. > :20:41.How big a deal to American voters is Hilary Clinton's bout
:20:42. > :20:43.of "walking pneumonia", - in other words a mild
:20:44. > :20:46.Donald Trump speaking this morning on Fox News said he hopes
:20:47. > :20:49.the Democrat candidate gets well soon, and then immediately announced
:20:50. > :20:51.he that was going to release his own medical records.
:20:52. > :20:54.Health, he says, is an issue in the campaign, and he'll be
:20:55. > :20:56.releasing what he calls "very specific numbers".
:20:57. > :20:57.So everything, it seems, is fair game
:20:58. > :21:05.Will Hillary be accused of hiding her health history -
:21:06. > :21:08.diagnosed on Friday, forced to reveal it on Sunday
:21:09. > :21:19.Here is Emily. This is the Hillary she wants you to
:21:20. > :21:24.know, the fighter, the woman of strength. And this is the Hillary
:21:25. > :21:29.you will have seen a lot of today, played silently on a loop. The woozy
:21:30. > :21:34.wobble as she struggles to stay upright, even losing issue as she
:21:35. > :21:40.crumples into the car. The decision from the campaign to attract Hillary
:21:41. > :21:45.from the 9/11 memorial service without telling any reporters for
:21:46. > :21:48.about 90 minutes was incredibly short-sighted and foolish, given
:21:49. > :21:53.that there were all these conspiracy theories already swirling about her
:21:54. > :21:56.health. Her emergency exit from the memorial service was followed by 90
:21:57. > :22:05.minutes where nobody knew what to think. Unexpectedly left early
:22:06. > :22:08.because of what appears to be a medical episode... And then the
:22:09. > :22:15.revelation she had been diagnosed two days earlier with pneumonia.
:22:16. > :22:18.We're breaking news on Hillary Clinton's health. Something which
:22:19. > :22:26.seemed retrospectively to explain this. A Cleveland coughing fit,
:22:27. > :22:37.rescued at the 11th hour with a stab at a joke. Every time I think about
:22:38. > :22:53.Trump, I get a coughing fit. Was this cover-up a mistake? The press
:22:54. > :23:00.does not like people's privacy but... Here is the man you might
:23:01. > :23:04.remember from this moment, the Iowa caucus of 2004. The screen that
:23:05. > :23:07.spells the sound of his own presidential hopes slipping away.
:23:08. > :23:12.The whole thing did not slip away from a because of the I have a
:23:13. > :23:15.scream speech, the whole thing slipped away because we were not
:23:16. > :23:20.organised. This is not slipping away from Hillary Clinton, it is not
:23:21. > :23:25.going to slip away from Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton will be the
:23:26. > :23:29.next president of the United States because the alternative is
:23:30. > :23:34.unthinkable. Unthinkable to Democrats but the whole thing will
:23:35. > :23:40.give credence to something of a trump conspiracy, that Hillary was
:23:41. > :23:46.too ill to stand. This evening he revealed his own medical records
:23:47. > :23:49.live on TV. I took a physical and I will be revealing the numbers when
:23:50. > :23:57.they come in. Hopefully they will be good, I feel great. Clinton will
:23:58. > :24:04.miss a couple of days of campaigning to rest. Somewhere lurks the
:24:05. > :24:09.question they cannot ask, her constitutional contingency plan if
:24:10. > :24:13.the nominee herself cannot stand. Tisbury difficult in the United
:24:14. > :24:16.States whereby presidents and presidential candidates have an
:24:17. > :24:20.existence which is separated from the party because it is a
:24:21. > :24:24.presidential system rather than a parliamentary system. We have not
:24:25. > :24:27.had such close to horse race for some time so the sound as people
:24:28. > :24:35.would claim that Bernie had a legitimate right to be on the
:24:36. > :24:41.ticket, even if only as a vice president running mate because Kane
:24:42. > :24:47.would have to nominate someone and how would it have to be approved? It
:24:48. > :24:52.would have to be done by some sort of process approved by the
:24:53. > :24:55.Democratic National committee. Clinton has seen something of a
:24:56. > :24:59.narrowing in the polls in recent days. She is still ahead nationally
:25:00. > :25:05.and in most of the battle ground states. Convincing the public she is
:25:06. > :25:10.fit might be the work of antibiotics and a few days in bed. But
:25:11. > :25:14.convincing the public she has nothing to hide, that is a battle
:25:15. > :25:17.she has been fighting for two and a half decades and it probably will
:25:18. > :25:23.not disappear when the cough does. Tina Brown is the former editor
:25:24. > :25:35.of Vanity Fair, The New Yorker, I asked her if Hillary had done
:25:36. > :25:39.damage by being secretive? Does question about who she has done
:25:40. > :25:44.damage with. Politically it gives rise to another round of lack of
:25:45. > :25:50.transparency. Why didn't she reveal it before? With the public, I am not
:25:51. > :25:55.so sure. I think there will be a lot of sympathy for a woman who has been
:25:56. > :25:59.brutally pummelled from one whole year on the campaign trail. And when
:26:00. > :26:03.people learn she was diagnosed Friday and yet she went on and did
:26:04. > :26:06.it to our national security meeting, she went to Barbra Streisand
:26:07. > :26:11.fundraiser, she did another fundraiser, she went to the 9/11
:26:12. > :26:16.event, she was trying to soldier on. In many ways people will say this
:26:17. > :26:20.woman is valiant and why is everybody on her case? Howard Dean
:26:21. > :26:26.said to us, why doesn't she just do things on Skype? Why does she use
:26:27. > :26:33.social media more? Why does she have to be ever present? On the other
:26:34. > :26:38.hand, a whole bunch of people on CNN were saying why didn't she go to
:26:39. > :26:40.talk to people more, why was she raising money in the Hamptons in
:26:41. > :26:45.August when she could have done stuff like this? I think Hillary
:26:46. > :26:52.does feel that connecting with real people and hearing what they have to
:26:53. > :26:57.say is as important to her as them talking -- is heard talking to them.
:26:58. > :27:02.That is why she goes out on the trail will stop does this matter to
:27:03. > :27:09.the voters? If she becomes ill again, does this build a picture? It
:27:10. > :27:14.does, unfortunately. Only 35% of Americans polled by CNN in the last
:27:15. > :27:18.poll said they thought she was honest or trustworthy. 50% amazingly
:27:19. > :27:23.think Trump is honest or trustworthy. It is not a great
:27:24. > :27:26.figure for either of them but it is remarkable because pretty much
:27:27. > :27:30.everything comes out of Donald Trump is that mouth is fallacious and he
:27:31. > :27:35.has a higher trust rating than Hillary Clinton. Only 80% think what
:27:36. > :27:44.Trump says is true whereas 50% is true. It is a very difficult thing
:27:45. > :27:48.for her. And unfortunately this has taken root. What have we come to
:27:49. > :27:53.where we will have the disclosure of Donald Trump's medical records which
:27:54. > :27:57.will be very specific and detailed, and actually, to run as a
:27:58. > :28:03.presidential candidate, you have to have full health disclosure? What is
:28:04. > :28:09.amusing with Donald Trump is he did one disclosure but it was by a
:28:10. > :28:13.giggling gastroenterologist who said his health was unbelievably terrific
:28:14. > :28:17.or awesomely amazing or some unlikely adjective. But
:28:18. > :28:21.unfortunately, yes, everyone will basically have to reveal how much
:28:22. > :28:25.under an head they have for the public scrutiny and be told that is
:28:26. > :28:31.relevant. It is absolutely grotesque. It has become the most
:28:32. > :28:38.brutal gladiatorial blood fest. If she is feeling ill right now, who
:28:39. > :28:44.can blame her? Does seem strange. Roosevelt was in a wheelchair, it
:28:45. > :28:47.did not make him a lesser president. People make judgments and here we
:28:48. > :28:52.are in the middle of the Paralympics. I could not agree more.
:28:53. > :28:57.The one thing you could not accuse Hillary Clinton of is lack of
:28:58. > :29:01.stamina. The woman is an unbelievable Sherman tank in energy.
:29:02. > :29:05.She wore down Obama to the bone crisp in the last election. She went
:29:06. > :29:11.to the bitter end. And then she turned around having lost, and did
:29:12. > :29:17.250 fundraisers for Obama without so much as a weekend. To use the
:29:18. > :29:22.stamina point with Hillary is. You may dislike her but she can out run
:29:23. > :29:29.anyone. And should age be an issue at all? In this moment, I did think
:29:30. > :29:34.either of the candidates really are old to run for president because we
:29:35. > :29:38.live in a different era. Trump is 70 and Hillary is 68. They are both
:29:39. > :29:42.getting up there. We have had a much younger president in Obama but we
:29:43. > :29:47.have also had all the presidents with Reagan. I think in this era,
:29:48. > :29:51.this age is not too old to run for president but I think it is
:29:52. > :29:55.enormously the key game and you cannot do it without very good
:29:56. > :30:00.health. I think Hillary's health is fine. She's very exhausted now and
:30:01. > :30:03.she has had this cough which has plagued her and has perhaps been
:30:04. > :30:07.wrongly diagnosed. I do know. That is the point we're most interested
:30:08. > :30:10.in. Tina Brown, thank you for joining us.
:30:11. > :30:11.Ron Christie is CEO of Christie Strategies
:30:12. > :30:14.which is a political strategy firm and he is a former senior
:30:15. > :30:22.Good evening, first of all, is Donald Trump right to make hay out
:30:23. > :30:27.of Hillary Clinton's health scare? I don't think so, I think this is the
:30:28. > :30:31.time where you look at the former Secretary of State and you say you
:30:32. > :30:35.wish her well, you want the see her back on the campaign trail. Mr Trump
:30:36. > :30:39.was very subdued talking art her health today, that is where it
:30:40. > :30:43.should be. He was subdued at fist but he announced he would be
:30:44. > :30:47.releasing his very specific medical records, he said and apparently he
:30:48. > :30:55.will be doing it live on television. So he is making a deal out of it.
:30:56. > :30:59.Well, with Donald Trump seefrmgs to be reality TV show, he said he had
:31:00. > :31:04.his physical taken last week, it shows he has a physical because the
:31:05. > :31:07.Secretary of State had her incident yet, it is very important for the
:31:08. > :31:10.American people to understand the health of their next President of
:31:11. > :31:13.the United States, and to ascertain whether north they have the stamina,
:31:14. > :31:16.they have the Fitzpatrick #k58 ability to do the job. -- physical
:31:17. > :31:20.ability to do the job. I can tell you it is gruelling at the staff
:31:21. > :31:25.level, it is more brutal for the President and the Vice President.
:31:26. > :31:30.You heard Tina Brown saying Hillary Clinton has the stamina of a Sherman
:31:31. > :31:35.tank, she did fund-raisers for Barack Obama, do you think there are
:31:36. > :31:39.doubts about her staying power if she were to become President,
:31:40. > :31:43.really? Yes, really. I am very worried about her health, she has
:31:44. > :31:47.not been very healthy this year, she is the first one to tell you that,
:31:48. > :31:52.the Secretary of State needs to come out and this is one of the reasons I
:31:53. > :31:55.think her disapproval numbers are so high, her trustworthiness numbers
:31:56. > :32:01.are so low, with the Clintons it is a drip, drip, drip. As a former
:32:02. > :32:04.Obama, the Obama administration official said set it out there,
:32:05. > :32:08.level with the American people, say here is my health condition, here is
:32:09. > :32:12.how I am feeling, I am feeling great. Put it behind her, the longer
:32:13. > :32:16.it takes for the Secretary of State to come out with her medical
:32:17. > :32:21.condition the ling doubts Americans have. Interestingly, what is the
:32:22. > :32:28.hierarchy of health is this we know there is lots of American have for
:32:29. > :32:33.example die Beattie, if Donald Trump was, to have that, do you think
:32:34. > :32:40.there would be a problem as it affects so much of the population
:32:41. > :32:46.She has a diagnosis of pneumonia, I almost died of pneumonia, I was out
:32:47. > :32:53.for several months in his 20, if I almost died in my 20, you have a
:32:54. > :32:55.68-year-old candidate who has been campaigning rerentlessly, people
:32:56. > :32:58.need to know the extent of what type she had and whether she is on the
:32:59. > :33:02.mend. I would say one other thing, given the fact she was here at
:33:03. > :33:07.Ground Zero yesterday, she was shaking hands with people, kissing
:33:08. > :33:11.baby, it is a extraordinarily contagious disease, if she had
:33:12. > :33:15.pneumonia why would she put people at risk? That is the question people
:33:16. > :33:16.want to know. Thank you very much for joining us.
:33:17. > :33:22.Bake Off, a British phenomenon, and a show that delivered the BBC
:33:23. > :33:25.10 million viewers on BBC One, is going to Channel Four.
:33:26. > :33:28.Will there be no more Mary and Paul, Mel and Sue on the Beeb?
:33:29. > :33:30.Love Productions, who make the programme for BBC,
:33:31. > :33:33.said that it is with regret that they have been unable
:33:34. > :33:35.to reach agreement on terms to renew the commission.
:33:36. > :33:38.So what will happen to a show which built up from a low audience
:33:39. > :33:42.on BBC Two six years ago to a raging success, and made Mary Berry
:33:43. > :33:44.and Paul Hollywood, and the most recent winner,
:33:45. > :33:47.Will Bake Off rise once more on Channel Four
:33:48. > :33:52.And is that the kind of fare Channel Four was set up to deliver?
:33:53. > :34:05.Here's our resident baker's boy Stephen Smith.
:34:06. > :34:08.Bake Off is the jewel in the crown of the BBC's schedules,
:34:09. > :34:19.or at least the glazed sultana in Auntie's Chelsea bun.
:34:20. > :34:21.This is your chance to get your dough prodded
:34:22. > :34:30.It is perfect comfort telly with its recipe
:34:31. > :34:32.of mildly salty banter, and 1950s WI resourcefulness.
:34:33. > :34:35.Carry On meets "Keep calm and carry on."
:34:36. > :34:49.It generates 10 million viewers a week and it is prime content.
:34:50. > :34:51.The BBC played a big role in helping that success.
:34:52. > :34:53.There is no question it is a blow to them.
:34:54. > :34:56.But I think there was an air of inevitability of bout it
:34:57. > :34:59.because as the price for premium content gets higher and higher,
:35:00. > :35:02.with increased competition with the likes of Amazon, Netflix,
:35:03. > :35:04.ITV, Sky and Channel 4 in the mix, it will become harder
:35:05. > :35:11.and harder for the BBC to bid for these types of rights.
:35:12. > :35:22.From modest beginnings on this channel, Bake Off has made stars
:35:23. > :35:25.But the BBC said tonight it was a considerable distance apart
:35:26. > :35:34.from the programme makers Love Productions over money.
:35:35. > :35:42.That is a scrapbook of our careers from the very beginning.
:35:43. > :35:44.All the nice things that people said about us?
:35:45. > :35:47.What about the nasty things people said about us?
:35:48. > :35:52.It is an ancient piece of showbiz wisdom known as Chiles' law,
:35:53. > :35:55.that popular presenters jump ship from the Beeb at their peril.
:35:56. > :35:56.A plane carrying 15 tonnes of rhubarb.
:35:57. > :36:11.Eric and Ernie were never the same on commercial TV.
:36:12. > :36:13.The BBC will back themselves to create another great hit
:36:14. > :36:16.like Bake Off, or at least to be part of creating this
:36:17. > :36:18.great successful show, and really that is the BBC's remit,
:36:19. > :36:21.and at a time when there is such scrutiny on its charter,
:36:22. > :36:23.with the new draft charter being published on Thursday
:36:24. > :36:26.by the Government, it knows really that it has to prove
:36:27. > :36:38.that it is distinctive and coming up with new content.
:36:39. > :36:41.So you'll still be able to enjoy a version of this programme
:36:42. > :36:43.on another channel somewhere up the dial, but for the BBC,
:36:44. > :36:49.Here tonight is Lorraine Heggessey, former controller of BBC One and
:36:50. > :36:57.head of the TV production company Talkback Thames.
:36:58. > :37:04.First of all, we understand that it is three, three series and it could
:37:05. > :37:09.be 25 million a series, more than double what the BBC, should the BBC
:37:10. > :37:13.have paid up? They couldn't pay up, they haven't got enough money to pay
:37:14. > :37:18.up, probe, they had to decide where to draw a line, I think this is one
:37:19. > :37:22.of the issues that the BBC faces, because commercial broadcasts can go
:37:23. > :37:25.for value pricinger the more successful a show is, the more
:37:26. > :37:30.advertising ref few, the more they can afford to pay. Of course on
:37:31. > :37:36.Channel 4 they can do all sorts of product placement that I can. They
:37:37. > :37:39.can commercially exploit the programme than perhaps you can on
:37:40. > :37:44.the BBC where there are lots of rules. Will it be, we don't know
:37:45. > :37:50.anything yet, can it be the great British Bake Off? Let me just tell
:37:51. > :37:56.you what Channel 4, you will know this well was charged with,
:37:57. > :38:00.innovative, experiment and and distinctive so you nick a BBC
:38:01. > :38:03.success hit to be innovative and experimental? Well, obviously
:38:04. > :38:08.Channel 4 has to fight for its place as well, and my understanding is
:38:09. > :38:14.that talks broke down between the BBC and Love Productions. At 3.00,
:38:15. > :38:19.they signed with Channel 4 at seven. A coincidence! In my day there were
:38:20. > :38:22.often tough negotiations over programme budgets, over budget for
:38:23. > :38:26.talent, but in the end there was an unwritten rule you did not walk away
:38:27. > :38:31.and take your show somewhere else. Now, you have got a plethora of
:38:32. > :38:36.channel, you have Jeremy Clarkson about to be on Amazon, you have Sky
:38:37. > :38:41.owning Love Productions. Before we knew it was going to Channel 4, I
:38:42. > :38:45.thought it more likely it would go to ITV because with the amount of
:38:46. > :38:49.audience it get, which is much more than Channel 4 gets for any show, so
:38:50. > :38:52.normally you would escalate up the change, if you see what I mean.
:38:53. > :38:56.There is no doubt that ITV is looking for a baking show but it
:38:57. > :38:59.didn't offer for the show. Or they wanted the show knowing that the
:39:00. > :39:03.talent was signed up, and my understanding is the talent isn't
:39:04. > :39:07.signed up, and maybe Channel 4's prepared to take the risk of not
:39:08. > :39:10.having the talent. Why not do a completely new baking show with
:39:11. > :39:14.their own talent and leave The Great British Bake Off on BBC? It sounds
:39:15. > :39:18.like Love Productions were going to go any way, that is the thing, that
:39:19. > :39:22.is what worries me really, because the BBC has invested a huge amount
:39:23. > :39:27.of license fee payer's money in growing this show, and you know, no
:39:28. > :39:31.one person is ever responsible for a show, the Commissioner, the
:39:32. > :39:35.controller, the talent, the writer, everybody contributes to making it a
:39:36. > :39:39.success, and one of the advantages that the BBC has over other channels
:39:40. > :39:43.is they have BBC Two, which gets a substantial audience, but is a much
:39:44. > :39:48.coastier place if you like, a safer place, to grow a show, so this show,
:39:49. > :39:51.they took the risk on it on a new format, who thought that baking
:39:52. > :39:56.cakes would become a prime time success? It wasn't a done deal, and
:39:57. > :40:00.then they agree it on BBC Two, they moved it to BBC One, they further
:40:01. > :40:04.expanded it with Comic Relief and the spin off show. So the BBC has
:40:05. > :40:08.just got to be a place to nurture things and it might go out to other
:40:09. > :40:12.channel, because what... But that is dangerous for the BBC, isn't it,
:40:13. > :40:15.because the BBC has to have a mixed ecology, you can't only be
:40:16. > :40:18.experimenting with shows that haven't yet grown an audience, you
:40:19. > :40:24.need the shows that have the audience to bring to the shows. But
:40:25. > :40:26.tell me, you know, how does this deal for public service
:40:27. > :40:33.broadcasting? Channel 4 possibly will be privatised. Surely they will
:40:34. > :40:42.slap wads of money down. Maybe it was worried it would go ITV and that
:40:43. > :40:47.would put it as a come petstive disadvantage, because -- competitive
:40:48. > :40:54.disadvantage. There may be be a new show on the BBC? Will it? Will it
:40:55. > :41:01.ever be as good as Bake Off, will it be as good on Channel 4? There is
:41:02. > :41:04.something BBC about it, middle England, middle class, quite nice
:41:05. > :41:10.and Channel 4 has usually, a lot more edge. Thank you.
:41:11. > :41:13.That it is for tonight. The day David Cameron announced he is
:41:14. > :41:16.leaving Parliament it was reported that George Osborne's constituency
:41:17. > :41:19.is to disappear at the next election.
:41:20. > :41:21.We'll always remember them as impossibly young backbenchers,
:41:22. > :41:22.together orchestrating Michael Howard's PMQs.
:41:23. > :41:26.Do you think you've got a killer blow?
:41:27. > :41:32.It is something that is in the news and is very current,
:41:33. > :41:34.and affects lots of people and is something that we actually
:41:35. > :41:36.believe in terms of police paperwork,
:41:37. > :42:13.Hello, many parts of the United Kingdom are turning unusually warm
:42:14. > :42:16.to hot for the time of year. That is away from the weather front to the
:42:17. > :42:20.west, especially for Northern Ireland and western Scot. You won't
:42:21. > :42:22.see that bump in temperatures that other parts of the UK are going