:00:08. > :00:14.I love that sign, blacks for Tromp, I love that's fine, thank you. We're
:00:15. > :00:16.doing great with the African-American community.
:00:17. > :00:19.But it is right to say that Hillary Clinton has
:00:20. > :00:23.The early signs are that black voters are not yet turning out
:00:24. > :00:25.in the numbers that the Clinton campaign would want.
:00:26. > :00:28.We'll ask why, and take the measure of what is happening
:00:29. > :00:41.A black church in Mississippi is torched and vandalised with the
:00:42. > :00:44.words vote Trump. Democrats believe it is an attempt to keep
:00:45. > :00:46.African-Americans away from the polls.
:00:47. > :00:48.And we're in Florida, a state without which no candidate
:00:49. > :00:55.Also, we'll hear from Hollywood actress Susan Sarandon,
:00:56. > :00:58.who is not voting for either of them.
:00:59. > :01:05.I don't vote with my joiner, this is bigger than that. I don't want to
:01:06. > :01:07.spend a lot of time talking about Trump and Hillary.
:01:08. > :01:09.Also tonight - anyone out there old enough
:01:10. > :01:18.We're right to be scared about inflation. It tells us somewhere or
:01:19. > :01:21.other, the macroeconomic framework is wrong. It tells us about
:01:22. > :01:23.dysfunction somewhere in the economy.
:01:24. > :01:25.And this - on British television's 80th birthday,
:01:26. > :01:42.the lengths we go to to track down, or even remake, the lost classics.
:01:43. > :01:46.Someone once said that the only reason we have elections is to see
:01:47. > :01:50.Not quite true in the case of this American election,
:01:51. > :01:53.where a lot is at stake, but the polls are complex to read,
:01:54. > :01:56.and the late Trump momentum makes it an interesting contest to watch.
:01:57. > :01:59.Trumpeters might like to argue that there is increasing
:02:00. > :02:05.We'll see that it may more likely be a lack
:02:06. > :02:09.But let's go straight to Florida, where Mr Trump was campaigning
:02:10. > :02:21.Mark, everybody has memories of Florida playing such a big part on
:02:22. > :02:32.results counting night of American elections past. What is the picture
:02:33. > :02:39.that tonight? Well, absolutely, as you say, in 2012 Eric Obama won this
:02:40. > :02:44.state by just 74,000 votes. But because of the way the system works,
:02:45. > :02:49.that gave him the thumping 29 seats all vote of the electoral college,
:02:50. > :02:53.the Florida electoral college. More than 10% of the total you need
:02:54. > :02:58.across this whole country to get the White House. It is the key battle
:02:59. > :03:04.ground state. Since 2012, the number of registered Republicans has grown
:03:05. > :03:07.by 400,000 vis-a-vis Democrats. So that's why Donald Trump today was
:03:08. > :03:12.saying that he is confident they are going to win, but they don't want to
:03:13. > :03:24.show too much confidence. Can you call it? Well, look, it's definitely
:03:25. > :03:29.got... Hillary Clinton was in the lead. It has definitely got title.
:03:30. > :03:34.It is now too close to call. One poll today had Hillary Clinton one
:03:35. > :03:39.point in front, others say it is within the statistical margin of
:03:40. > :03:42.error. One key thing here - 3.7 million Florida citizens have
:03:43. > :03:48.already voted. The polling amongst them should give the hell Hillary
:03:49. > :03:52.Clinton camp some confidence. Thank you, Mark. Sorry about the delay on
:03:53. > :03:54.the line. Somehow, she is not getting support
:03:55. > :03:58.from those that might support her. There are those on the left
:03:59. > :04:01.who don't like Trump, but simply think voting for more
:04:02. > :04:04.of the same old people like Hillary I suppose it is a philosophy that
:04:05. > :04:09.says you don't use a vote to select Someone who encapsulates this
:04:10. > :04:12.problem for Clinton is the Hollywood actress and activist Susan Sarandon,
:04:13. > :04:15.and I spoke to her A Bernie Sanders supporter,
:04:16. > :04:18.she has strong views At the moment, she is opposing
:04:19. > :04:21.a proposed oil pipeline. As you will hear, it's
:04:22. > :04:23.the Dakota Access pipeline. It's an oil pipeline
:04:24. > :04:27.which is stretching across North Dakota and an area
:04:28. > :04:29.of land belonging to She's also concerned about it having
:04:30. > :04:34.a similar effect to fracking I started by asking her why
:04:35. > :04:47.she was campaigning on the issue. These corporations, these big banks,
:04:48. > :04:52.everybody who is funding this makes sure that people don't know what is
:04:53. > :04:55.going on. People didn't understand fracking for the longest time. In
:04:56. > :04:59.order to stop the fracking in the States that have stopped it, it
:05:00. > :05:02.wasn't because it was progressive, it was because people finally
:05:03. > :05:07.understood, and people were turning on their taps and finding out water
:05:08. > :05:10.shooting out of it, they were not Democrats or Republicans, they were
:05:11. > :05:18.people who couldn't even live in their houses. This is not a partisan
:05:19. > :05:21.issue, except for the fact that nobody has information. One of the
:05:22. > :05:23.things we have to do now, just like in South Africa, is to start
:05:24. > :05:25.withdrawing our money from the big banks that are funding the
:05:26. > :05:28.pipelines. People like me who know about the pipeline and have been
:05:29. > :05:33.opposed to the pipeline, we have to put our money where mouth is. You
:05:34. > :05:38.have to stop liking the wit and passing pleats around. If you can't
:05:39. > :05:42.go there, at least withdraw your money -- liking tweets. I understand
:05:43. > :05:48.why supporting the Green candidate, there are so many people that will
:05:49. > :05:53.have the worldview that you have who will say, that is an indulgence at
:05:54. > :05:56.this point, it is a battle between Clinton and Trump, ultimately you
:05:57. > :06:01.have to make a choice between one of those two. OK, ultimately I don't
:06:02. > :06:04.have to make the choice to vote against my own best interests,
:06:05. > :06:07.because the reason we are in the situation we're in is because
:06:08. > :06:15.everyone has been voting the lesser of two evils also wrong. It's
:06:16. > :06:19.important to have a new party it is important to get these independent
:06:20. > :06:23.candidates to 5%. Hillary Clinton is almost certainly going to win, she's
:06:24. > :06:26.got all of the press, the networks, the newspapers behind her. It's
:06:27. > :06:31.important to vote not only with my conscience but to get that 5% up. A
:06:32. > :06:35.lot of people don't want to vote at all. I would urge them to vote the
:06:36. > :06:41.down ticket, but for the future. Abraham Lincoln was the third party
:06:42. > :06:45.candidate. The DNC, having seen what I saw during the primary, is so
:06:46. > :06:48.corrupt it is not worthy of our votes. If you woke up on Wednesday
:06:49. > :06:56.morning next week and it is president Trump, you won't feel an
:06:57. > :07:00.ounce of contrition or regret? Everything that I care about, I'm
:07:01. > :07:04.worried about the war is, I'm worried about Syria and all of these
:07:05. > :07:09.things that actually exist. I'm worried about fracking and the
:07:10. > :07:12.environment. No matter who gets in, they don't address these things,
:07:13. > :07:16.because money has taken over our system. For me, it doesn't matter.
:07:17. > :07:20.The fact that Bernie Sanders, you have been a big fan of him and
:07:21. > :07:24.supported him, he says, you've got to vote for Hillary and make that
:07:25. > :07:30.choice in this election. Does that carry no weight with you? Bernie
:07:31. > :07:35.also said, no matter who I tell you to vote for, don't vote with me,
:07:36. > :07:38.vote with your heart. The thing you should be focusing gone, that we
:07:39. > :07:42.have to focus on, is taking the Senate and the House back. If you
:07:43. > :07:48.notice all the talk about the Supreme Court, Judge Obama hasn't
:07:49. > :07:52.been able to get his guy in there. We have to take it with
:07:53. > :07:56.progressives, the House and the Senate. That is where things are
:07:57. > :08:00.going to be decided. We have to get the money out of that part of the
:08:01. > :08:03.super delegates who also lobbyists. Citizen united has done terrible
:08:04. > :08:06.things to the government. You have to go and vote down, that is equally
:08:07. > :08:11.as important, that's what we are going to be left with. Depending on
:08:12. > :08:15.what happens the House and the Senate, nobody can get anything
:08:16. > :08:19.done. A lot of young women think it is the most natural thing in the
:08:20. > :08:21.world that you might have a woman president. A lot of women of your
:08:22. > :08:25.generation might take the view that that is a big thing for the United
:08:26. > :08:29.States to elect a woman president. Does that not sway you to say,
:08:30. > :08:32.Hillary Clinton, first woman president, that would be a big
:08:33. > :08:37.moment for the US, in a good way? You know, I want the right woman.
:08:38. > :08:43.There are women that have, you know, great women that have, that I
:08:44. > :08:49.admire, that have headed nations, and you've had a woman, and I don't
:08:50. > :08:54.know how you felt about that. I don't vote with my gender, this is
:08:55. > :08:57.bigger than that. I don't want to spend a lot of time talking about
:08:58. > :09:02.Trump and Hillary, that's not why I'm here. This is bigger than who
:09:03. > :09:05.wins the election. This water... I mean, what is everything, it's not
:09:06. > :09:10.going to matter what happens in this election if we don't have water. And
:09:11. > :09:14.we are in a very, very dangerous place all over. You have fracking
:09:15. > :09:20.issues in England. We have to start looking at the greed that is
:09:21. > :09:23.corrupting our water source for future generations. And on top of
:09:24. > :09:28.that, the racism that goes into what's going on in this pipeline.
:09:29. > :09:30.Susan Sarandon, it's been interesting hearing that
:09:31. > :09:32.perspective, thank you so much. You're welcome.
:09:33. > :09:34.Now, Hillary Clinton's problem Part Two.
:09:35. > :09:37.She needs black and Hispanic voters on her side.
:09:38. > :09:40.Not just to support her in opinion polls, but to actually go out
:09:41. > :09:46.African Americans certainly did vote when Obama was on the ticket,
:09:47. > :09:48.and for the Democrats, it would be huge if they could
:09:49. > :09:51.bottle that support and carry it into this and future elections.
:09:52. > :09:54.But the indications from early voting though are that the Obama
:09:55. > :10:09.Perhaps lack of enthusiasm affects that community.
:10:10. > :10:12.It is no wonder, that it's all hands on deck to mobilise that support.
:10:13. > :10:15.Here is somebody who has dedicated her life to making
:10:16. > :10:22.While Donald Trump and his dad were being sued, by the Department
:10:23. > :10:25.of Justice for denying housing the African-American families...
:10:26. > :10:28.No, I'm not making this up, I'm just stating facts.
:10:29. > :10:31.At that same time, Hillary was going undercover from school
:10:32. > :10:34.to school to make sure that disadvantaged kids were getting
:10:35. > :10:44.That tells you something about their respective values.
:10:45. > :10:47.And Hillary hasn't stopped fighting for justice.
:10:48. > :10:50.Hasn't stopped fighting for equality ever since.
:10:51. > :10:52.Her heart has always been in the right place.
:10:53. > :11:15.Race is definitely an issue. What are you hearing that? Well, today we
:11:16. > :11:18.awoke to news that a black church in Mississippi had been thwarted and
:11:19. > :11:24.found lies with the words, vote Trump. Police are calling it a hate
:11:25. > :11:30.crime that amounts to vote in the mid-. It is an extreme case, but one
:11:31. > :11:34.that the Democrats fear is happening in several other states, suppression
:11:35. > :11:39.of the black vote. North Carolina, a critical swing state, has seen early
:11:40. > :11:42.voting Beckett hailed in many black neighbourhoods through a new
:11:43. > :11:46.Republican-backed law, indeed, a federal appeals court has accused
:11:47. > :11:50.those behind it of an almost surgical assault on back turnout.
:11:51. > :11:52.Other residents have found themselves removed from the
:11:53. > :11:59.electoral register without being advised how or even why. Democrats
:12:00. > :12:01.believe it is a thematic attempt to keep African-Americans from the
:12:02. > :12:06.polls, knowing or believing that they would go frequent and over
:12:07. > :12:11.Trump. Hillary's problem is not just the suppression of those black
:12:12. > :12:15.votes, is it? I guess it's not. It's also of course the personalities
:12:16. > :12:19.involved. Obama won 92% of the African-American vote and be under
:12:20. > :12:23.45 is. They fear that Clinton just won't have that same appeal. Here is
:12:24. > :12:26.what you have to wonder is Donbas might early voting is where
:12:27. > :12:36.Democrats get their numbers up. Republicans tend to leave it
:12:37. > :12:38.conservatively until the day itself. Nobody has counted any actual
:12:39. > :12:41.ballots yet. But the data suggests that African-Americans are failing
:12:42. > :12:43.to vote at those levels they did four years ago. We've heard Obama
:12:44. > :12:46.earlier, we've heard him on the stump for Clinton, he is usually
:12:47. > :12:50.relaxed, dropped joking around. But last night there was a new urgency
:12:51. > :12:55.in his voice. It was petitioning people to go out and vote. Clearly
:12:56. > :12:59.there may not be the same incentive for them to vote Clinton as they did
:13:00. > :13:03.Obama. But think about this, if the black vote stays at home it is also
:13:04. > :13:08.in some sense a referendum on what he himself is achieved or fail to
:13:09. > :13:11.achieve in his time in power. Thank you, Emily.
:13:12. > :13:14.We're joined now from Florida by Leslie Wimes,
:13:15. > :13:16.founder and President of the Democratic
:13:17. > :13:23.Thank you for joining us. Just describe what you think is
:13:24. > :13:26.happening? In Florida, do you think there is a large degree of
:13:27. > :13:34.African-American abstention in this election? Thank you for having me. I
:13:35. > :13:38.think what has happened is Hillary Clinton's campaign decided that they
:13:39. > :13:46.were going to just use surrogates to get the African-American vote out.
:13:47. > :13:49.And that was a mistake. We love President Obama, we support
:13:50. > :13:55.President Obama, but that love and support has not transferred to
:13:56. > :13:59.Hillary Clinton. What she needed to do was engage the African-American
:14:00. > :14:05.community on her own. Her campaign needed to get into the communities,
:14:06. > :14:08.engage the people and, you know, encourage the African-American
:14:09. > :14:13.community to vote for her on her own merit. And that didn't happen.
:14:14. > :14:18.Because that didn't happen, she's not seeing the numbers in the early
:14:19. > :14:22.voting. You know, we're going to go out, we're going to listen to Barack
:14:23. > :14:26.Obama, we are going to enjoy his rallies. But, you know, she did not
:14:27. > :14:32.present her case to the community. And you're seeing it in the numbers.
:14:33. > :14:36.She is not getting people to the polls. Would you say that the
:14:37. > :14:39.African-American community or indifferent between a Clinton
:14:40. > :14:46.victory and they Trump victory? Are they quite prepared to say, Trump
:14:47. > :14:51.wins, that's OK with us? I don't think that it is... I wouldn't look
:14:52. > :14:54.at it that way. I think what it is is the community is saying, you
:14:55. > :14:58.know, what's the difference? I think they are saying that, you know, no
:14:59. > :15:02.matter who gets in, is it going to make a difference to our issues? She
:15:03. > :15:06.needed to get into the community and speak to the issues. She couldn't
:15:07. > :15:18.just rely on President Obama, and that's what she did. Right now, with
:15:19. > :15:20.President Obama being the president, we're still seeing our young men
:15:21. > :15:22.being shot dead in the streets, we're still seeing our unemployment
:15:23. > :15:25.rates sky-high, and systemic racism. She needed to get in and really,
:15:26. > :15:30.really say, hey, I'm for you, I'm rooting for you. She didn't do that.
:15:31. > :15:33.If she is not going to get into the communities and make her case,
:15:34. > :15:37.what's the difference between her and Trump? It's interesting you
:15:38. > :15:42.should put it that way. Many would say, I mean, you could characterised
:15:43. > :15:45.the Trump candidacy as something of an angry white backlash against
:15:46. > :15:49.political correctness and things that have been done over the last 30
:15:50. > :15:53.years in the United States. I'm interested that that is not how
:15:54. > :15:58.people are reading it. They are saying, they are all as bad as each
:15:59. > :16:01.other. I'm sorry, what was that? It's just interesting that people
:16:02. > :16:05.would be saying, all of the candidates or as bad as each other,
:16:06. > :16:08.you know, given what looks like quite a big difference between the
:16:09. > :16:14.candidates, from here. What you have do understand is that the black
:16:15. > :16:19.community feels like their boat has been taken for granted for a very
:16:20. > :16:22.long time by the Democratic party. So what the Clinton campaign needed
:16:23. > :16:27.to do was to get into the community and say, we're not taking due for
:16:28. > :16:31.granted. There is not a push to quote the vote, to say, hey, I'm not
:16:32. > :16:36.taking you for granted. It's the same old, same old. If she is not
:16:37. > :16:40.getting into the community and engaging the community it's like,
:16:41. > :16:48.hey, you're taking before granted so why should I get out and support
:16:49. > :16:52.you? You have to look at it like, 2008 and 2012 was historic. You have
:16:53. > :16:56.the first African-American president. There was a connection
:16:57. > :16:59.there. She doesn't have that same black Obama connection, she needs to
:17:00. > :17:07.really get into the community and really push her candidacy, and she
:17:08. > :17:12.didn't do that. How many black Americans do you know that are going
:17:13. > :17:15.to vote for Donald Trump, who say, actually, I like what Donald Trump
:17:16. > :17:19.says about Mexicans and building walls and all that other stuff? To
:17:20. > :17:23.be perfectly honest with you, I know one!
:17:24. > :17:26.LAUGHTER One person has said, I'm going to
:17:27. > :17:29.vote for Donald Trump. I don't know anyone who is going to rush out and
:17:30. > :17:34.vote for Donald Trump, it's just that they are not enthusiastic about
:17:35. > :17:39.Hillary Clinton, that's the big. Is that thing you must reflect on, when
:17:40. > :17:43.Barack Obama became president, we thought we might be in an era of
:17:44. > :17:47.post-racial politics in the US and everything would stabilise. It feels
:17:48. > :17:53.from here as boat race is as big or bigger issue than it has been for a
:17:54. > :17:58.long time. -- that race is as big an issue. It is a remarkably divided
:17:59. > :18:07.society at the moment. You know, it is sad, it is sad that it had to be
:18:08. > :18:10.that way, but it is. That's another reason why she needed to get into
:18:11. > :18:13.the community and say, hey, I'm really pushing for change. It was a
:18:14. > :18:19.great opportunity for her to do that. It is a missed opportunity.
:18:20. > :18:22.We've got rather used to low inflation,
:18:23. > :18:26.So you might like to brace yourself for something a little
:18:27. > :18:30.The fall in the pound is pushing up import prices, and that is feeding
:18:31. > :18:33.One reputable forecast, from the National Institute
:18:34. > :18:39.Now that 4% is best viewed as a one-off price hike.
:18:40. > :18:41.So the good news is that inflation will recede after that.
:18:42. > :18:45.and that will be a hit on living standards.
:18:46. > :18:49.Is this the Brexit bite? Or will we find a way around it?
:18:50. > :19:06.VOICEOVER: For hundreds of years, we have changed our notes and our coins
:19:07. > :19:10.but always asked the same question, how far will our money takers? The
:19:11. > :19:15.past couple of years the cost of living has barely risen at all, we
:19:16. > :19:20.have even had a glee flurry of deflation, but now, prices are on
:19:21. > :19:25.the up, 1% last month. -- a brief flurry. We are now told that was
:19:26. > :19:33.just the start, inflation could hit 4% next year. Inflation works by
:19:34. > :19:37.eroding the buying power of a set amount of money and here is a good
:19:38. > :19:44.example, this is a heavy silver ornate coin, from 1887, this was
:19:45. > :19:49.worth four shillings. Back then, we can establish that it would have
:19:50. > :19:54.bought you about ?25 worth of goods, using today's values, but it was
:19:55. > :19:59.actually worth it for shillings, and in today's money, that is the
:20:00. > :20:02.equivalent to just 20p. The intervening 130 odd years, the
:20:03. > :20:09.buying power of a coin like this has gone down by over 100 times.
:20:10. > :20:13.Inflation has been low for years, today's report predicted rising
:20:14. > :20:17.sharply in the coming months, it puts the blame for that in one
:20:18. > :20:22.place, the plunging value of the pound, which will make imported
:20:23. > :20:26.goods more expensive. Once you get to four or 5%, you will notice, the
:20:27. > :20:31.price of milk, other prices, will be rising. It is something that is
:20:32. > :20:35.going to hurt people. Next year will be worrying for other reasons as
:20:36. > :20:39.well. There is the risk associated with the exit from the European
:20:40. > :20:42.Union and we must understand the responses of firms and households,
:20:43. > :20:46.which may be to rein back investment and increase levels of saving, all
:20:47. > :20:50.of which will add to their down demand. I am worried for that reason
:20:51. > :20:55.and naturally I worry for people who will feel of worse in the year then
:20:56. > :21:00.they are today, that is not a good place to be. For the now, the Bank
:21:01. > :21:04.of England has targeted inflation of 2%. Economists have long agreed that
:21:05. > :21:08.gently rising prices are good for the economy, but still, you mention
:21:09. > :21:14.inflation and lots of us tend to shudder. Why are so many people
:21:15. > :21:20.nervous about inflation? They have heard about things like this, this
:21:21. > :21:24.is a Weimar Republic 50 million mark note, remember, the hyperinflation
:21:25. > :21:34.there, it was dwarfed by Yugoslavia, in the 1990s, this banknote is worth
:21:35. > :21:42.500 billion! This is the highest in the nomination banknote ever
:21:43. > :21:44.printed, from Zimbabwe, the $100 trillion note...! Nobody is
:21:45. > :21:47.suggesting that hyperinflation is on the way to Europe or the UK, what it
:21:48. > :21:55.is the memory of economic disasters such as this which still cloud
:21:56. > :21:58.thinking. We already seeing a real-world impact on the fall in
:21:59. > :22:02.sterling, tomorrow the RAC will announce research showing the price
:22:03. > :22:08.of petrol rising at its fastest rate in three and a half years. Diesel
:22:09. > :22:12.has gone up even more, all because oil is sold in dollars. For those on
:22:13. > :22:15.tight incomes or getting by on limited savings, the prospect of
:22:16. > :22:22.high inflation is an unwelcome spectre. This does look like bad
:22:23. > :22:25.news for savers, there is a growing gap between the rate of interest
:22:26. > :22:29.they can get on cash, because of monetary policy, and the standard of
:22:30. > :22:33.living costs, inflation numbers, which will squeeze the spending
:22:34. > :22:38.power of the savings they have got. It will further force savers to look
:22:39. > :22:41.at the stock market as an alternative, the only place that can
:22:42. > :22:48.generate meaningful long-term returns but that does come with
:22:49. > :22:52.investment risk. There has been a run of inflation forecast recently,
:22:53. > :22:56.and 4% is the highest peak I have heard predicted, few doubt inflation
:22:57. > :23:02.is coming back. With it, questions that banks and households have not
:23:03. > :23:05.had to worry about full-year. -- have not had to worry about for
:23:06. > :23:12.years. STUDIO: Prison staff are warning
:23:13. > :23:14.of a crisis in the jails and it seems their concerns
:23:15. > :23:17.about violence and suicide The Justice Secretary Liz Truss met
:23:18. > :23:20.union leaders today, and is publishing
:23:21. > :23:22.a white paper tomorrow. Now, if there are two
:23:23. > :23:24.approaches to penal policy, the reformist one and the "lock em
:23:25. > :23:28.up and throw away the key" one, it seems that Liz Truss is more
:23:29. > :23:30.on the reforming side. Our Political Editor
:23:31. > :23:36.Nick Watt is with me. Big moment tomorrow, this takes
:23:37. > :23:41.place against the backdrop of increased violence in prison the big
:23:42. > :23:45.announcement from Liz Truss, she will announce she is setting aside
:23:46. > :23:48.another money to recruit an extra two and a half thousand prison
:23:49. > :23:53.officers, to deal with that end violence and increased use of drugs.
:23:54. > :23:57.Whitehall sources are saying this is absolutely a break with the approach
:23:58. > :24:01.of her predecessor but one, Chris Grayling, as part of the deficit
:24:02. > :24:05.reduction plan, cutting the number of prison staff as the prison
:24:06. > :24:11.population increase. What about the broader issue, of how you look upon
:24:12. > :24:17.and reform prison system? If it is adios Chris Grayling, it is viva
:24:18. > :24:20.Michael Gove, there had been an assumption that she was distancing
:24:21. > :24:24.herself from him when she said she could not commit to his prison
:24:25. > :24:28.reform plan, but she is going to embrace the key elements of that,
:24:29. > :24:33.and there are two key principles, principal number one, greater
:24:34. > :24:38.autonomy from prison governors, helping them to set health and
:24:39. > :24:41.education budget so that they can give prison is purposeful activity
:24:42. > :24:45.so they are better placed when they come out of prison and you hope to
:24:46. > :24:47.reduce the reoffending rate. In return for the autonomy, much
:24:48. > :24:53.greater transparency, the publication effectively of league
:24:54. > :24:57.tables of prisons, to identify the successful ones and the failing
:24:58. > :25:01.ones. Why, if Liz Truss is embracing this revolution from Michael Gove,
:25:02. > :25:05.was she so cautious in September? When she turned up in the department
:25:06. > :25:09.in July, she opened the prison reform locker, it was empty, because
:25:10. > :25:15.Michael Gove had been thinking of other things...! The referendum.
:25:16. > :25:17.Amid ongoing tensions between Vladimir Putin and the West,
:25:18. > :25:20.Ukraine's President Petro Poroshenko recently warned that his country
:25:21. > :25:22.could face a "full scale invasion from Russia".
:25:23. > :25:25.One woman who says she is determined at all costs to fight Russian
:25:26. > :25:28.Earlier this year, Savchenko, a former Ukrainian military pilot,
:25:29. > :25:30.was released from a Russian gaol in a prisoner exchange.
:25:31. > :25:33.She had been sentenced to 22 years for killing two Russian journalists
:25:34. > :25:35.in eastern Ukraine, charges she denied.
:25:36. > :25:38.On her return home she was hailed as a hero and a symbol
:25:39. > :25:41.She's now a member of the Ukrainian Parliament and has
:25:42. > :25:43.been mentioned as a future presidential candidate.
:25:44. > :25:45.Kirsty Wark has been to interview her and hear her
:25:46. > :25:48.First, what was behind her recent trip to Moscow,
:25:49. > :26:24.her first time on Russian soil since her release.
:26:25. > :26:40.Did you fear for your safety? Are you afraid of anything?
:26:41. > :26:51.You were the very first Ukrainian military pilot who was a woman. How
:26:52. > :27:16.did you get to do that? The day that you were captured, it I
:27:17. > :27:19.think you said, I think I read that if you had had a grenade in your
:27:20. > :27:28.hand, you would have set it off. When you were captured, you went to
:27:29. > :27:36.court, you were in front of Russian judges
:27:37. > :28:10.you define them by giving them the middle finger!
:28:11. > :28:13.You deny that you had anything to do with the deaths of the Russian
:28:14. > :28:32.journalists? He went on hunger strike, several
:28:33. > :28:33.times. Once, for 83 days. How did you keep going, you must have been
:28:34. > :28:58.weak. How did you manage to deal with not
:28:59. > :29:34.eating? President Petro Poroshenko awarded
:29:35. > :29:45.you hero of Ukraine, the highest award for Ukraine. Now, your
:29:46. > :29:50.approval ratings for Nadiya Savchenko our 44%, for the
:29:51. > :30:20.president, 3%! What you think about that?
:30:21. > :30:26.You very much wanted to be seen as an anti-corruption politician, what
:30:27. > :30:31.do you make of the story in The Times of London today, saying
:30:32. > :30:37.Ukrainian MPs are forced to declare their million pound fortunes, and
:30:38. > :31:05.indeed, each MP on average has close to ?1 million in cash?
:31:06. > :31:49.Do you believe that Crimea will ever be part of Ukraine again?
:31:50. > :31:54.Tell me, how do you think the rest of the world should view Vladimir
:31:55. > :32:33.Putin? Finally, do you ever miss being a
:32:34. > :32:43.fighter pilot? STUDIO: That was recorded earlier
:32:44. > :32:56.today in London. Regular television services
:32:57. > :32:58.in Britain are 80 years old today. We were first with that news
:32:59. > :33:01.because we did it last week. But in those 80 wonderful years,
:33:02. > :33:04.a lot has been broadcast and a lot has been lost,
:33:05. > :33:07.in the old days TV was not really considered a medium to record and it
:33:08. > :33:10.certainly wasn't all uploaded and stored on a big
:33:11. > :33:12.server in Oregon. However, bits of old archive do
:33:13. > :33:14.surface from time to time, and to celebrate TV's 80th,
:33:15. > :33:17.our technology editor David Grossman has been looking at some material
:33:18. > :33:19.that has remained unseen, VOICEOVER: There are not
:33:20. > :33:30.many people alive today for whom television is not
:33:31. > :33:32.woven into their lives. But for most of its history,
:33:33. > :33:35.it has been a fleeting Then...
:33:36. > :33:51.Gone forever. Preserving television has always
:33:52. > :33:53.been a fabulously The film cans here at the BBC's
:33:54. > :33:58.archive in Perivale have to be capped at just the right
:33:59. > :34:02.temperature and humidity. And then there's finding
:34:03. > :34:05.the space for everything. The financial incentive
:34:06. > :34:07.has always been there, for television companies to dump far
:34:08. > :34:14.more than they hang onto. Like a play or a concert,
:34:15. > :34:21.TV wasn't meant to survive. Keeping it meant pointing a film
:34:22. > :34:24.camera at a TV screen, only worth the trouble
:34:25. > :34:28.to sell something abroad. Here, an insect has inserted itself
:34:29. > :34:40.into an early episode And this is a Wombles?
:34:41. > :34:44.That's a Wombles, yes. That's not missing?
:34:45. > :34:52.No, it's not missing. Kaleidoscope is a group of TV
:34:53. > :34:54.historian is always looking Although most of the film in this
:34:55. > :35:02.box was never lost, it was a job lot bought
:35:03. > :35:04.from a private collector, I guess the kind of proudest one
:35:05. > :35:10.is that, He didn't even know
:35:11. > :35:14.it was an avengers episode from 1961 because he hadn't actually played it
:35:15. > :35:20.at all, ever. Only two episodes were thought
:35:21. > :35:22.to survive from the first Before this projector illuminated
:35:23. > :35:42.this old film, this episode of The Avengers hadn't
:35:43. > :35:54.been seen for 55 years. You were'nt by any chance
:35:55. > :35:57.a Desert Rat, were you? Well, you may remember this
:35:58. > :35:58.sort of thing. As soon as it reaches that mark,
:35:59. > :36:03.it blows this place to smithereens A jab against the wall, same thing.
:36:04. > :36:12.You're bluffing. Well, you've got about 30
:36:13. > :36:14.seconds to find out. Hand me that cigarette.
:36:15. > :36:15.Take it. So few episodes survive
:36:16. > :36:17.from the first series. Anything you find from that
:36:18. > :36:20.tells me a little bit more about the development
:36:21. > :36:28.from that show. And you can see just
:36:29. > :36:30.how far it plays. These episodes have come back,
:36:31. > :36:42.written by top quality writers. Troy Kennedy Martin,
:36:43. > :36:44.the creative talents behind I'll have no sugar.
:36:45. > :36:48.I heard you were like that. I don't know how Madigan
:36:49. > :36:53.puts up with you. I bear his children.
:36:54. > :36:55.Some of them, no doubt. Well, one of them is my Tommy
:36:56. > :36:59.and he's going out with He's more than going out with her,
:37:00. > :37:02.he's courting her. As long as I'm alive,
:37:03. > :37:05.no one of those cousins are going to Television is such an ephemeral
:37:06. > :37:10.medium, It holds a great mirror up
:37:11. > :37:15.to society as it was. It shows how people looked,
:37:16. > :37:19.how they talked, what their attitudes were,
:37:20. > :37:22.what their aspirations were. And so I think just as a social
:37:23. > :37:25.document they are very important. Can this old footage
:37:26. > :37:38.ever be more than a Can it do what it was intended
:37:39. > :37:42.to do when it was made, To modern viewers,
:37:43. > :37:45.the pace can seem leaden, and the comedy, well,
:37:46. > :37:49.not necessarily very funny. Some of those things we have
:37:50. > :37:52.released in the past I never would have thought would have
:37:53. > :37:54.sold as many copies. I know there is an audience
:37:55. > :37:57.for a lot of this stuff. There will always be some kind
:37:58. > :37:59.of audience, but whether it is in
:38:00. > :38:01.the low hundreds you can't always ascertain until you
:38:02. > :38:15.actually release it. what someone is going to want in 30
:38:16. > :38:24.years' time, that is why Kaleidoscope
:38:25. > :38:26.has bought fought tooth Even though many people
:38:27. > :38:29.have said, you're mad to keep it all, who is going to
:38:30. > :38:32.want to watch it? Even the bits between the
:38:33. > :38:36.programmes, you know, the kind of continuity announcers
:38:37. > :38:37.and those old trails, Happy birthday to you,
:38:38. > :38:42.happy birthday to you. Come on, it's got to be,
:38:43. > :38:46.you're having a wash! There is a lot that can be done
:38:47. > :38:49.to old footage to smooth its reception
:38:50. > :38:51.with a new audience. A colour broadcast archived in black
:38:52. > :38:53.and white, can sometimes have
:38:54. > :38:55.its colour recovered. All the information needed
:38:56. > :38:57.is miraculously contained in the And where no pictures
:38:58. > :39:03.survive, a fan's DIY audio recording can be
:39:04. > :39:06.brought to life with new animation. This is an episode of Doctor Who,
:39:07. > :39:09.the sound from 1966, the pictures
:39:10. > :39:11.recreated 50 years later. It's available from
:39:12. > :39:12.the BBC's online content Like a black and white 60s drama,
:39:13. > :39:16.the world of archive TV is full of bold characters,
:39:17. > :39:23.and not a little intrigued. We have a couple of leads that
:39:24. > :39:27.were given to us of a few episodes that are known
:39:28. > :39:34.to be missing from the BBC archive. You can't say of what?
:39:35. > :39:53.No, I can't. It's terribly sad when you know
:39:54. > :39:56.there are things out there that you know they are stuck
:39:57. > :39:58.in somebody's hands, whom, for whatever reason doesn't
:39:59. > :40:01.want to part with them. It can be quite
:40:02. > :40:02.heartbreaking, you know. And sometimes you have
:40:03. > :40:04.to play a long game. Eighty years of television have
:40:05. > :40:06.generated more hours than anyone could
:40:07. > :40:14.possibly watch or keep. Nevertheless, like prime-time
:40:15. > :40:16.gumshoes, the heroes of archive TV
:40:17. > :40:18.battle on against the odds. Against time, greed,
:40:19. > :40:30.and of course... STUDIO: We all have nights where
:40:31. > :40:34.frankly we would feel like it was recorded! Britain's political class
:40:35. > :40:38.has been at the parliamentarian awards, Theresa May has proven she
:40:39. > :40:42.had a sense of humour, when she showed up to accept an award from
:40:43. > :40:47.none other than George Osborne wearing a hive is best and a hard
:40:48. > :40:54.hat! The former number ten spin supremo Craig Oliver may not
:40:55. > :40:59.appreciate her sense of humour. -- high-vis vest. She said that when
:41:00. > :41:00.she saw that he had the night it in the New Year 's Honours list, she
:41:01. > :41:04.felt like retching in the street. We leave you with news
:41:05. > :41:07.that the BBC Director General got a bit of a wigging
:41:08. > :41:10.from the Welsh Assemby Cultural Affairs committee today for failing
:41:11. > :41:13.to get the Corporation to represent So, to get help get Lord Hall
:41:14. > :41:17.off the naughty step, and with thanks to Times journalist
:41:18. > :41:19.Kaya Burgess for alerting us, we leave you with the Welsh story
:41:20. > :41:22.of the day, the announcement of
:41:23. > :41:30.the first female Bishop It gives me enormous pleasure to
:41:31. > :41:38.announce that the bishop elect of Saints Davids is Canon Joanna, she
:41:39. > :41:47.is in a parish centred in Wales.