:00:00. > :00:07.Good evening and welcome to our final show of the year.
:00:08. > :00:09.Tonight Newsnight says goodbye to 2016, the year
:00:10. > :00:25.I think the majority want to stay in a reformed European Union. I happen
:00:26. > :00:33.to believe that the people in this country don't want to pull
:00:34. > :00:38.drawbridges up. At 20 minutes to five we can now say... The people of
:00:39. > :00:44.the UK have voted to leave the European Union. Have got my country
:00:45. > :00:51.back, I won't be here for long but what I've got I want to keep. About
:00:52. > :01:01.ten o'clock would be about right. I do not think it would be right for
:01:02. > :01:04.me to try to be the captain that steers our country to its next
:01:05. > :01:16.destination. We did it! Everybody woke up in time! Everybody listened!
:01:17. > :01:18.I'm sorry, we've just been through three months of agony on the issue
:01:19. > :01:22.of immigration and the public have been led to believe that what they
:01:23. > :01:27.have voted for is an end to it. We live in a besieged area. We haven't
:01:28. > :01:38.had anything to eat since the beginning of the siege. We believe
:01:39. > :01:40.this is a world first, selfies stick being used to transport an eminent
:01:41. > :01:50.London surgeon into a basement hospital in a besieged city.
:01:51. > :01:59.The truth is the question of belief. We have our special Russian troops
:02:00. > :02:05.that you need to accept as something that maybe is not your truth. It
:02:06. > :02:08.does feel, maybe you don't feel but you are not free to express your
:02:09. > :02:24.opinion, because you are a racist, bigoted, you are
:02:25. > :02:27.homophobic. What would you do on your first day in the White House?
:02:28. > :02:29.So many things you wouldn't even believe it. Thank you. This is the
:02:30. > :02:40.most important thing about Donald Trump. He was sociopathic in the
:02:41. > :02:42.classic sense. We could spend all day talking about him but it's
:02:43. > :02:45.Hillary Clinton who is likely to be the next president. There has been
:02:46. > :02:48.quite a shift in the last hour. To the names of Jefferson, Washington
:02:49. > :02:51.and Adams, we can now add Trump. Taste it, roll it around your
:02:52. > :03:02.tongue. America's President-elect is Donald J Trump. It's not true, he
:03:03. > :03:12.hasn't been racist. Text textbook racism was the phrase. Is a white
:03:13. > :03:15.man you don't get to define what racism is. Simon, calm down dear.
:03:16. > :03:21.Don't patronise me. It is not a moment for calm. It is a moment for
:03:22. > :03:32.contesting what seems to be a very dangerous point in American history.
:03:33. > :03:35.This has been a year of seismic shifts in power.
:03:36. > :03:38.Britain voted to wrest back power from the EU.
:03:39. > :03:40.In America the old establishment elites lost power to
:03:41. > :03:43.In Russia, Putin has deployed everything from war planes
:03:44. > :03:47.to the web to wield power thousands of miles from Moscow.
:03:48. > :03:50.Tonight we have convened a group of guests to work out what brought
:03:51. > :03:53.about such momentous change, who has benefited most as a result,
:03:54. > :04:08.who have suffered the greatest, and what it will presage for 2017.
:04:09. > :04:12.And joined by senior Ukip figure Suzanne Evans,
:04:13. > :04:17.the commentator and columnist Peter Hitchens, Paris Lees,
:04:18. > :04:23.the commentator and columnist Peter Hitchens.
:04:24. > :04:39.harrowing, you may wish to look away, tell us why you chose this. On
:04:40. > :04:42.the fringes of Europe people are dying, more than last year and I
:04:43. > :04:44.think that we have convinced ourselves that it is to do with
:04:45. > :04:47.illegal people trafficking, an industry that does exist and we have
:04:48. > :04:58.convinced ourselves that it is only to do with the wars in the Middle
:04:59. > :05:00.East although it is also to do with climate change. These Africans
:05:01. > :05:02.escaping the effects of climate change. Trying to escape the effect
:05:03. > :05:05.of desertification. This is not a crisis. A crisis is something that
:05:06. > :05:23.can be solved. This is what the early 21st century is going to look
:05:24. > :05:27.like. But there are more people crossing the Mediterranean this year
:05:28. > :05:29.than last year and yet in terms of the news coverage of it we seem to
:05:30. > :05:32.be slightly desensitised. Is it because you think we are distancing
:05:33. > :05:34.ourselves from it? The reason we are here talking about 2016, so much has
:05:35. > :05:37.happened, we have had more enormous stories in 2016 than any year I can
:05:38. > :05:48.remember. It is a dreadful image, and not the only one.
:05:49. > :05:51.You sift through newspapers, we don't see how the images. The
:05:52. > :05:53.question is interpretation. My interpretation would be completely
:05:54. > :05:55.different from yours. How would you interpret it? As the consequence
:05:56. > :06:02.largely of the crazy intervention which we in France partially made in
:06:03. > :06:04.Libya, the main reason for this particular event. An astonishing
:06:05. > :06:09.diplomatic and military mistake, as bad as Iraq but somehow never dwelt
:06:10. > :06:15.upon, analysed, its culprits never properly excoriated and punished. An
:06:16. > :06:18.astonishing thing done largely with public support and a great deal of
:06:19. > :06:28.cross media, something must be done... People from Mali, and the
:06:29. > :06:31.Nigerians... The forces drawing them to Europe were there before we
:06:32. > :06:35.destroyed Libya. The destruction of Libya brought the Muslims...
:06:36. > :06:47.Suzanne, tell me what image you have chosen.
:06:48. > :06:51.I've chosen an image, I felt I had to choose something from the
:06:52. > :06:54.referendum campaign and I have chosen this one because I think in a
:06:55. > :06:55.sense it sums it up. We have a bunch of multimillionaire luvvies and rich
:06:56. > :07:12.kids on a boat being terribly rude to
:07:13. > :07:14.some fishermen who are trying to protest about the Common fisheries
:07:15. > :07:17.policy of the EU which has destroyed their livelihoods. So for me this
:07:18. > :07:20.was an iconic image. Also it is not a thing about the smug liberal elite
:07:21. > :07:22.that we will talk about later. After a referendum, you feel somehow that
:07:23. > :07:24.it caught arises the wound and then there's a rapprochement to the
:07:25. > :07:26.country gets back together. It hasn't happened this time. I think
:07:27. > :07:44.so because the people who voted Remain are saying, the world
:07:45. > :07:47.has not fallen apart and the economy will be fine. Things seem to be
:07:48. > :07:50.absolutely OK. Let's just get on with it. I think the latest polling
:07:51. > :07:52.I have seen suggests that 68% of people would vote Leave today. Was
:07:53. > :07:53.the polling counter-productive? I think the thing about a referendum
:07:54. > :08:17.is that it caught arises and heels when
:08:18. > :08:20.it is divisive, and we have had to in this country which have come out
:08:21. > :08:23.around 50-50. Everyone I spoke to in Scotland before the Brexit vote said
:08:24. > :08:25.that the experience of the Scottish referendum was of families torn
:08:26. > :08:27.apart and friendships broken. They warned me this would happen and they
:08:28. > :08:29.were right. Let's move on, Peter, to your image. You have chosen a
:08:30. > :08:33.domestic political image. Seuk-hyun Baek I love a good gloat. And for me
:08:34. > :08:42.this has been a great year for gloating. In some ways this is my
:08:43. > :08:44.favourite cloud, the total failure of the Blairites to overthrow Jeremy
:08:45. > :08:46.Corbyn on a second attempt, something I could have told them.
:08:47. > :08:49.Their total misunderstanding which led to the failure of what is going
:08:50. > :09:26.on in politics that they themselves had been
:09:27. > :09:29.replaced by the Conservative Party, and that there is absolutely nowhere
:09:30. > :09:32.left to the Labour Party to go. Do you think Jeremy Corbyn is a good
:09:33. > :09:34.thing for British politics? Enormously. For so long people have
:09:35. > :09:37.said, we are sick of all the political parties being the same as
:09:38. > :09:39.each other and we finally get a situation where they are not and
:09:40. > :09:42.Labour is led by a socialist and people are saying, this is terrible.
:09:43. > :09:45.I think it would be terrific if the Conservative Party could be led by a
:09:46. > :09:47.conservative although that is a bigger demand. Is Jeremy Corbyn good
:09:48. > :09:49.for British politics? He's very good for Ukip! Not the same. Former
:09:50. > :09:52.Labour voters are coming to Ukip because of Jeremy Corbyn who shows a
:09:53. > :09:55.lack of patriotism, as do most of his Shadow Cabinet and our new
:09:56. > :09:57.leader Paul Nuttall is determined to get into the Labour heartlands and
:09:58. > :09:59.look at the issues which affect working people which Jeremy Corbyn
:10:00. > :10:00.is ignoring. Let's pause there because we will come back for a
:10:01. > :10:01.discussion in a moment. It's been a bad year
:10:02. > :10:06.for the much-derided On the night of November 8th,
:10:07. > :10:10.as the seismic result of the US Presidential race came into focus,
:10:11. > :10:12.New Yorker editor David Remnick, someone who, if such an elite does
:10:13. > :10:15.exist could perhaps be regarded as its High Priest, wrote
:10:16. > :10:17.an immediate hugely emotional response for the magazine: calling
:10:18. > :10:19.Donald Trump's victory "an American tragedy" and "a sickening
:10:20. > :10:21.event in the history It made Remnick a visceral
:10:22. > :10:25.voice for many in liberal America and beyond,
:10:26. > :10:27.and a symbol to many of Trump's supporters of that out-of-touch
:10:28. > :10:29.smug liberal elite. Our editor, Ian Katz,
:10:30. > :10:34.has been talking to him. Let's talk about that extraordinary
:10:35. > :10:36.piece that you wrote It went around the world,
:10:37. > :10:40.I think, within hours. You talked about it being a tragedy
:10:41. > :10:45.for the American public, a tragedy for the constitution,
:10:46. > :10:47.a sickening event in the history of the United States
:10:48. > :10:49.and liberal democracy. I am sure some people saw me
:10:50. > :10:56.as someone who didn't get it, who can't reconcile himself
:10:57. > :10:59.to a new President, you should Or maybe that it was just
:11:00. > :11:02.a little hyper-ventilating. Some people on the left
:11:03. > :11:04.actually thought that it was I don't deny it, but also I don't
:11:05. > :11:13.rescind it one iota. I would be delighted if the evidence
:11:14. > :11:20.since election night told me, Sometimes Conservatives win
:11:21. > :11:24.and the Liberals lose. It tumbled and then
:11:25. > :11:29.the reverse happened. I know that it is at
:11:30. > :11:39.a volume of alarm that I don't normally sound,
:11:40. > :11:41.maybe I should sound it more often and God knows we have had historical
:11:42. > :11:50.chapters that deserved it. But I've seen nothing
:11:51. > :11:53.between November 8th and now, we are a goodly month later,
:11:54. > :11:55.that makes me feel, ah! Don't get so hot and bothered,
:11:56. > :11:59.we had Nixon, we had... well, take your pick of presidents
:12:00. > :12:03.you don't approve of. It's not that, it's something
:12:04. > :12:07.much more alarming. A friend of mine here at the office
:12:08. > :12:13.said, it's like you have been tossed out of an aeroplane and you feel
:12:14. > :12:17.the sense of alarm, fear, you feel that freezing wind
:12:18. > :12:19.around you but you have And on the other hand, no parachute
:12:20. > :12:31.has opened, no sense of, this is a normal event in the turn
:12:32. > :12:34.between the back and forth between the liberal
:12:35. > :12:35.and the Conservative There is not that sense,
:12:36. > :12:41.at least not for me. But there is that impulse to make it
:12:42. > :12:44.such, I see it all around me. You warned against that
:12:45. > :12:48.in your piece didn't you? Has it been turned into another sort
:12:49. > :12:53.of turn of the democratic wheel... It is a very human impulse,
:12:54. > :13:07.always to normalise a situation so that you are not in a state
:13:08. > :13:10.of constant alarm or fear I hope all of the bad things that
:13:11. > :13:14.I have predicted, I really do, I hope they are completely
:13:15. > :13:18.and utterly wrong. We have a President who seems
:13:19. > :13:23.to think that the normal business of conflicts of interest do not
:13:24. > :13:25.apply to him. His children are going to run
:13:26. > :13:28.a gigantic business and yet also participate in the decision-making
:13:29. > :13:32.of the White House. He has investments all over
:13:33. > :13:36.the world that depend He doesn't seem to care
:13:37. > :13:44.about this one iota. His temperament, which is a very
:13:45. > :13:51.important thing in a President, is completely opposite
:13:52. > :13:53.of the temperament you would He trafficks in hatred,
:13:54. > :14:02.in petulance, in resentment, Here's the thing, I love my
:14:03. > :14:10.country, I understand, completely and utterly,
:14:11. > :14:13.that this is a divided country, ideologically
:14:14. > :14:17.and in many other ways. I know that people of my political
:14:18. > :14:20.ilk will not win every election, to not reconcile yourself
:14:21. > :14:25.to that is to be a child. This is not Mitt Romney winning
:14:26. > :14:37.in 2012 or John McCain in 2008... I want to say one other thing,
:14:38. > :14:43.it is part of a larger current in the world that I find
:14:44. > :14:46.equally troubling, It has justifiable beefs
:14:47. > :14:50.with the results of globalisation, There all kinds of people
:14:51. > :14:56.in the North of England, in the South and in the rust belt
:14:57. > :14:59.of the United States and throughout Europe who are made uneasy by,
:15:00. > :15:02.and who have suffered I just don't think that the results,
:15:03. > :15:14.the political results, people in office that we're seeing
:15:15. > :15:17.in many of these countries, is In that piece that you wrote
:15:18. > :15:26.on the night of the election and you said, we're not heading
:15:27. > :15:29.for fascism because this country wouldn't allow it,
:15:30. > :15:31.but the conditions are there and you said that this
:15:32. > :15:33.is maybe how this starts... I think a lot of countries have had
:15:34. > :15:36.this circumstance, of believing it And it happens slowly, slowly,
:15:37. > :15:42.and then all at once. Part of my alarmism ,if you want
:15:43. > :15:46.to call it that, was to, in my own small way,
:15:47. > :15:49.to be part of the sounding of an alarm, self-awareness
:15:50. > :15:51.that we are not going I don't think anyone thinks that
:15:52. > :15:59.a funny man is going to come out with the little moustache
:16:00. > :16:04.and an armband. No, we have a reality television
:16:05. > :16:09.billionaire, but who has adopted certain ideological and character
:16:10. > :16:11.illogical things that are not for the better of this
:16:12. > :16:20.country, in my view. And taken to its logical conclusion,
:16:21. > :16:23.yeah, I think that a form of American authoritarianism
:16:24. > :16:29.is at stake. I think it is an alarm
:16:30. > :16:33.worth sounding. That is what resisting
:16:34. > :16:40.it is all about, is to make sure that the alarm is not realised
:16:41. > :16:42.as a reality. I think it is an absolute civic
:16:43. > :16:50.and journalistic necessity. And you can read a longer
:16:51. > :17:09.version of that interview We are joined by her journalists.
:17:10. > :17:12.Suzanne, picking up on what David Remnick seems to be saying, it is
:17:13. > :17:17.not the normal balance of whether it is Democrat or Republican even if it
:17:18. > :17:24.is that there are neither side, there is a sense of not restoring
:17:25. > :17:28.equilibria, this is different. What an astonishing interview. Chest
:17:29. > :17:34.beating, wailing, gnashing of teeth, he does not hope he is wrong, he
:17:35. > :17:40.hopes he is absolutely right! Here's hoping that President elect Trump
:17:41. > :17:45.screws it all up. It is astonishing. Trump, I was no great fan of his,
:17:46. > :17:58.but I have spoken to people who do know him, they say he is great at
:17:59. > :18:00.problem solving, he has lots of positive features and they have done
:18:01. > :18:03.psychological assessments and he came out very well and has children
:18:04. > :18:04.seem well balanced, he was voted for by the people.
:18:05. > :18:08.To try and condemn him before he has taken office and say he will be a
:18:09. > :18:11.disaster, we need to wait and see. It is not as though the current
:18:12. > :18:16.world order has done such a good job. Do you think there is this
:18:17. > :18:20.liberal chest beating? I'm not sure I quite agree. I think a lot of
:18:21. > :18:26.younger people are quite worried and are thinking, have we been here
:18:27. > :18:31.before? I asked a lot of my older friends, this stability that we
:18:32. > :18:35.enjoy at the moment, is that just a recent thing? Things have been
:18:36. > :18:39.unstable in the past and what I am hearing is that people feel like it
:18:40. > :18:43.is something new and it is not business or politics as usual and
:18:44. > :18:47.there is a lot of fear and uncertainty. To second-guess the
:18:48. > :18:51.motives of someone, I hope he is wrong. What stability do you have at
:18:52. > :18:56.the moment? This is possibly one of the most troubled times I remember
:18:57. > :19:06.and you talk about stability, we do not have stability. Give me an
:19:07. > :19:16.example. Leaving the European Union. We need to secure our country. The
:19:17. > :19:27.European Union... I think we should talk... Let's just talk about Trump
:19:28. > :19:32.and David Remnick. He concedes Trump been elected, that there are serious
:19:33. > :19:36.groups of unrepresented people with genuine grievances. He talked about
:19:37. > :19:39.the British North and the American South, quite correctly. Where did
:19:40. > :19:43.you hear David Remnick or people like him at all concerned about
:19:44. > :19:46.those people before the emergence of Donald Trump for decades? This has
:19:47. > :19:54.been waiting to happen and they paid no attention at all. Two and see
:19:55. > :19:57.your point, we are looking for the parachute, the point is we can
:19:58. > :20:01.revisit the campaign and we know Hillary Clinton did not pay enough
:20:02. > :20:05.attention to the rust belt, it has just come upon them as if they did
:20:06. > :20:11.not think it was coming. I think Peter has a point. It is not enough
:20:12. > :20:14.to get that people are suffering and that there is discontent with
:20:15. > :20:19.globalisation, we need to do something about it. Hillary Clinton
:20:20. > :20:27.lost the election as well as Donald Trump winning it. The failure of the
:20:28. > :20:31.consensus politics, in some ways Donald Trump as won the presidency
:20:32. > :20:34.but the Republican party did not. They did everything they could to
:20:35. > :20:40.try and stop him but they did when Congress. When do you think all this
:20:41. > :20:46.started, we look back to 2008, Barack Obama is elected, I knew
:20:47. > :20:49.Russian President, when did all this start, when did all this
:20:50. > :20:53.development. When I was living in the US in the early 1990s, it was
:20:54. > :20:57.under way on one of the major features is something that is now
:20:58. > :21:01.mirrored in Europe in a strange way, which is the huge amount of
:21:02. > :21:06.immigration, much of it illegal, coming across the Mexican border
:21:07. > :21:12.which is something that Trump sort of addressed in a very belated and
:21:13. > :21:16.not very intelligent way. That changed things hugely and the
:21:17. > :21:20.American Republican movement, Conservative journalism, were riven
:21:21. > :21:24.during that period about what to do about it and the Democrats did
:21:25. > :21:30.absolutely nothing except say it was fine. It has more to do with jobs
:21:31. > :21:35.going than immigrants coming. It is also to do with Nafta. Just on the
:21:36. > :21:41.question of what the trajectory has been in terms of tolerance, from the
:21:42. > :21:45.1960s onwards, this was always going to be, new laws, in America,
:21:46. > :21:49.homosexuality was not illegal, we had birth control and lots of
:21:50. > :21:54.different things happening here... And there was a tolerance, you feel
:21:55. > :21:58.that tolerance again has been a blip and we are becoming intolerant
:21:59. > :22:03.towards difference again. A little bit. I think a lot of this is
:22:04. > :22:04.connected to social media and people getting their voices heard and
:22:05. > :22:28.sometimes that is things that we want to hear, people
:22:29. > :22:30.who did not have a voice, having a voice, sometimes it is people
:22:31. > :22:32.spreading hate and it surprised me when I started seeing comments under
:22:33. > :22:35.YouTube videos and seeing words I had not heard in public for years.
:22:36. > :22:37.Really racist terms. It annoys me this characterisation of a response
:22:38. > :22:39.to political correctness gone mad, I think what we are seeing is
:22:40. > :22:41.traditional sexism and racism recalibrating itself. If you're
:22:42. > :22:44.hearing and seeing that, what is given a licence? I think it is
:22:45. > :22:47.cynical politicians from your party exploiting people and you rear is a
:22:48. > :22:52.really good point about working-class people and the left
:22:53. > :22:57.not being interested. I am from one of those towns that voted for Brexit
:22:58. > :23:00.and I think it is interesting that nobody is interested in speaking to
:23:01. > :23:04.us when we want to talk about housing or schools or jobs but
:23:05. > :23:09.suddenly when people have got racist concerns, everyone wants to listen
:23:10. > :23:19.and it is really important. Let's is an comeback on that. That is
:23:20. > :23:23.precisely the problem. Can I speak? People like you have for years
:23:24. > :23:26.actually said, we don't want to talk about these issues, we don't want to
:23:27. > :23:35.talk about immigration and you have refused to let people talk about it.
:23:36. > :23:39.Hang on... I presented a documentary on radio 12 years ago in which we
:23:40. > :23:45.explored prejudices and I went to meet a woman who wore a hedge out
:23:46. > :23:55.because that was one of my prejudices we all have ideas like
:23:56. > :23:59.that -- macro hijab. Let me just make this simple point, for a very
:24:00. > :24:03.long time, people who held perfectly reads -- reasonable views about
:24:04. > :24:10.marriage to immigration, were characterised as having something
:24:11. > :24:16.wrong with them and a phobia... Was a particularly left-wing tactic. If
:24:17. > :24:22.you held... If you held a legitimate view about for instance, I mentioned
:24:23. > :24:26.it simply, the level of immigration, there were people who felt no
:24:27. > :24:31.compunction in smearing you as racist. This happened all the time
:24:32. > :24:33.and there was an unwillingness to debate rationally. You cannot say
:24:34. > :24:42.that and there is something wrong with you. This is recompense for
:24:43. > :24:46.that. We have instantly gone on to social culture. We were talking a
:24:47. > :24:49.moment ago about towns in the North of England and their economic
:24:50. > :24:53.decline and the flight of jobs and now we are talking about social
:24:54. > :25:00.issues. This is the right and the left failing to talk about exactly
:25:01. > :25:07.those issues. Let's talk about the economic soffit and the rust belt.
:25:08. > :25:12.Mexican immigrants have not... You either take a position for looking
:25:13. > :25:16.ahead to 2017, this year has been a disaster and we need to fight back
:25:17. > :25:20.or this has been a great year and had only consolidated. Let's go with
:25:21. > :25:24.the former. It has been a disaster and should be a fightback. What do
:25:25. > :25:33.you think will happen? What has to happen next year for you to feel
:25:34. > :25:37.better? In 2016, lots of forces were released. Irrespective of what you
:25:38. > :25:41.think about Brexit or Trump, positive or negative, forces have
:25:42. > :25:45.been raised, theories have been unleashed, I do not know if Donald
:25:46. > :25:48.Trump has a plan for what happens when people discovery he cannot do
:25:49. > :25:52.all the things he said on the campaign trail. I don't know what
:25:53. > :25:56.the plan is for Brexit when we don't perhaps get the deal that we
:25:57. > :25:59.confidently said that we could. We are already dealing with
:26:00. > :26:11.disappointment that there is and that money for the NHS. I agree that
:26:12. > :26:13.expectations have been raised by largely irresponsible people who
:26:14. > :26:15.came to prominence because proper responsible politicians refuse to
:26:16. > :26:20.deal with that. Would this be Ukip? I have always regarded Ukip as a
:26:21. > :26:25.marginal party and I don't think it ever had any serious possibility of
:26:26. > :26:30.reaching power and that made it subject to the struggles are always
:26:31. > :26:38.most vicious when this price is so small. Do you think it has been a
:26:39. > :26:41.great year? So many people will be disappointed with the nature of how
:26:42. > :26:46.Brexit will play out in the nature of how Donald Trump will be in the
:26:47. > :26:49.White House. You're making huge conclusions, or that we will not get
:26:50. > :26:53.a good deal. I absolutely see that we hold all the Cards in this
:26:54. > :26:56.country, we have the biggest trade deficit with the European Union,
:26:57. > :27:02.they need us far more than we need them and there is every opportunity
:27:03. > :27:06.to get a good deal and to go back to my picture right at the beginning,
:27:07. > :27:14.just if we can reinvigorate our fishing industry by getting control,
:27:15. > :27:22.that would be wonderful. We can talk about it in relation to your
:27:23. > :27:29.photograph and how the EU... What needs to happen for next year? I am
:27:30. > :27:33.pretty pessimistic. I think there is a lot of provocation going on and it
:27:34. > :27:38.is very interesting, can we not just have a debate about immigration,
:27:39. > :27:42.turning into Polish centres being vandalised and rising hate crimes. A
:27:43. > :27:47.lot of people from marginalised backgrounds are worried. It will not
:27:48. > :27:52.affect you. Nobody is going to come up to you in the straight and abuse
:27:53. > :27:57.you. People abuse me because I am Ukip all the time! That is a
:27:58. > :28:01.political persuasion. No one is going to attack you based on the
:28:02. > :28:06.colour of your skin and who you are. This is an academic debate. People
:28:07. > :28:10.will be organising and I think that we will see some interesting
:28:11. > :28:15.activists. Very quickly, one big thing about 2016 was Andy Murray
:28:16. > :28:22.been declared number one, one good thing from 2016. I love that moment.
:28:23. > :28:27.I campaign of any good things apart from the opportunity to gloat at the
:28:28. > :28:29.discomfiture of my foes. Madonna as a clown. What is going on? The
:28:30. > :28:35.Olympics. This has also been a year
:28:36. > :28:38.in which we lost some towering figures and our cultural landscape
:28:39. > :28:41.became a little less technicolour. For whatsoever from
:28:42. > :28:51.one place doth fall. Is with the tide unto
:28:52. > :30:07.an other brought. Hello. Quite a lot of variety across
:30:08. > :30:08.the UK this