:00:00. > :00:00.Millions of votes have been cast for local councillors
:00:00. > :00:10.in England Wales and Scotland and a clutch of metro mayors,
:00:11. > :00:13.but what was in the minds of the voters?
:00:14. > :00:22.Was this the big rehearsal for the general election?
:00:23. > :00:32.I've learned that Labour are preparing for a bloody night.
:00:33. > :00:36.the Elysee on Monday, and what will that mean for Brexit?
:00:37. > :00:43.That's the place where mass executions took place.
:00:44. > :00:46.I could see the lines and lines and rows and
:00:47. > :00:49.I knew it was the end, really, at that moment.
:00:50. > :00:51.One of the few survivors of the Srebrenica massacre returns
:00:52. > :01:03.The Duke of Edinburgh is hanging up his hat at 96 after
:01:04. > :01:23.The ballot boxes were sealed half an hour ago after 35 local elections
:01:24. > :01:26.in England, in all Scottish and Welsh Councils,
:01:27. > :01:31.The results will be interpreted as a bellwether
:01:32. > :01:33.for the general election five weeks away, today.
:01:34. > :01:35.It's a key test for Jeremy Corbyn's leadership
:01:36. > :01:38.and although big Labour names like Andy Burnham may get
:01:39. > :01:50.the job he desperately wants, Mayor of Greater Manchester,
:01:51. > :01:58.Nick Watt here to tell us what to look out for.
:01:59. > :02:06.I think Labour braced for heavy losses across Britain. Polling
:02:07. > :02:13.experts suggest they could lose up to hundred and 20 seats. Opposition
:02:14. > :02:18.parties should not be losing seats in local council elections. I think
:02:19. > :02:22.we might be hearing that the loss will be even more dramatic, 300 to
:02:23. > :02:30.400. There are two explanations for that. The reason is last time the
:02:31. > :02:35.seats were fought Labour war on a high after the omnishambles budget
:02:36. > :02:39.and the project as we have had in recent weeks were focused on England
:02:40. > :02:44.and have not taken into account that we have elections in Scotland and
:02:45. > :02:48.Wales. Let me sound a note of caution. Parties do tend to embark
:02:49. > :02:53.on expectation management. They say things will be really dreadful so
:02:54. > :02:58.when they are merely dreadful it is a slightly rosier picture. Give me
:02:59. > :03:04.some examples. I think Labour are braced for the loss of the iconic
:03:05. > :03:08.Glasgow City Council to the SNP. That will capture headlines. But the
:03:09. > :03:15.sense, it is a line in Glasgow City Council with the Holyrood and
:03:16. > :03:19.Westminster elections. In itself very symbolic? Yes. The West
:03:20. > :03:22.Midlands mayoral contest is a Labour heartland but the feeling is that is
:03:23. > :03:27.on a knife edge and turnout is really low which will be very bad
:03:28. > :03:31.for Labour. But there is the odd ray of sunshine. Andy Burnham should win
:03:32. > :03:35.in Greater Manchester. His mate Steve Rotherham should win in
:03:36. > :03:38.Liverpool and tomorrow night when we get the projected national share
:03:39. > :03:42.from the local elections, I think what Labour will hope is that will
:03:43. > :03:55.show a narrow gap between them and the Tories then we have seen
:03:56. > :03:59.in the opinion polls. What have we been hearing from the Tories? I
:04:00. > :04:02.think they're expecting gains of 50 to 80 in the local elections. If it
:04:03. > :04:05.is more than that, they will be happy. If it is any more than that
:04:06. > :04:08.they will be jumping for joy. They will be saying they did better than
:04:09. > :04:10.expected when the seats were contested last round so little room
:04:11. > :04:14.for improvement they will say. Thank you.
:04:15. > :04:17.At the last election, pundits were caught out by the polls,
:04:18. > :04:19.but there were clues that we could have caught.
:04:20. > :04:22.A look at the seats where top Tories were campaigning might have
:04:23. > :04:26.So, in an effort to learn from our mistakes, our policy editor
:04:27. > :04:34.Chris Cook has been mapping the campaign so far.
:04:35. > :04:42.Here is his unique analysis of what they will show.
:04:43. > :04:45.The critical fight at this election remains, as it has done, for a
:04:46. > :04:51.century, the battle between the Conservatives and Labour.
:04:52. > :04:57.The parties have already started a flurry of campaigning
:04:58. > :04:59.with Theresa May and Jeremy Corbyn crisscrossing Britain
:05:00. > :05:02.to get their faces in local media.
:05:03. > :05:05.So, what can we tell about the two parties from what they're up to?
:05:06. > :05:09.We used to talking about swings, so a simple 5% swing from Labour to
:05:10. > :05:11.the Tories would mean 43 more Conservative seats.
:05:12. > :05:13.And a 4% swing from the Tories to Labour would mean
:05:14. > :05:15.29 more Labour seats, making Labour the largest party
:05:16. > :05:21.Because it's voters keep moving to the Tories.
:05:22. > :05:23.So, we probably need something a bit more
:05:24. > :05:34.On this graph, we've plotted all the Labour-Tory battle grounds.
:05:35. > :05:36.Each dot is a constituency and we've arranged them
:05:37. > :05:43.The furthest left dots are the safest Labour seats
:05:44. > :05:48.from 2015 and the furthest right dots are the safest Tory seats.
:05:49. > :05:51.The most marginal ones are the ones in the middle.
:05:52. > :05:55.Now, looking vertically, the higher up dots are seats
:05:56. > :06:09.It's got a 7,000 vote Labour lead over the Tories, which is safe.
:06:10. > :06:14.But it's a place with 13,000 Ukip voters and that's a lot.
:06:15. > :06:20.It's one of the seats where Ukip voters breaking Tory could break
:06:21. > :06:26.In fact, let's draw a line in here on this graph.
:06:27. > :06:29.All of the seats above this line, more than 60 of them,
:06:30. > :06:32.are ones where, if the Ukip votes goes Tory, it would be
:06:33. > :06:39.enough, to flip the seat to the Conservatives on their own.
:06:40. > :06:41.So, you can see why it is strategically
:06:42. > :06:44.helpful for Theresa May to take a very hard line on the EU.
:06:45. > :06:46.Threats against Britain have been issued by
:06:47. > :06:51.All of these acts have been deliberately timed to affect the
:06:52. > :06:56.result of the general election that will take place on the 8th of June.
:06:57. > :07:00.There's a huge reward for hoovering up Ukip votes.
:07:01. > :07:05.Remember that when you look at these rosettes.
:07:06. > :07:10.They mark constituencies where Theresa May has campaigned.
:07:11. > :07:14.Now, a few stops in Tory seats, but most are deep
:07:15. > :07:27.Note, though, she's chosen Labour seats where attracting
:07:28. > :07:30.former Ukip voters can do most or all of the work of winning.
:07:31. > :07:33.Jeremy Corbyn's campaign style is certainly very different.
:07:34. > :07:39.These red rosettes marking Mr Corbyn's
:07:40. > :07:44.recent stops are mostly in seats with relatively slender Tory leads.
:07:45. > :07:51.It is possible Labour simply plans to do that in a few weeks' time.
:07:52. > :07:57.Let's wait. The Tory campaign stops they were more revealing. They show
:07:58. > :08:02.the plans to ride a wave of ex-Ukip is right into Labour's heartland.
:08:03. > :08:06.Emmanuel Macron was widely regarded as having bested Marine Le Pen
:08:07. > :08:07.in last night's vicious television Presidential debate
:08:08. > :08:10.in which she called him a spoilt, cold-eyed smirking banker
:08:11. > :08:11.and he branded her a hate-filled liar.
:08:12. > :08:14.But after the venomous battle that lasted almost three hours,
:08:15. > :08:16.a billet doux for Macron from the last American President,
:08:17. > :08:19.whose flagship policy has taken a battering tonight.
:08:20. > :08:22.a billet doux for Macron from the last American President.
:08:23. > :08:24.I have admired the campaign that Emmanuel Macron has run.
:08:25. > :08:28.He put forward a vision for the important role that
:08:29. > :08:30.France plays in Europe and around the world.
:08:31. > :08:33.And he is committed to a better future for the French people.
:08:34. > :08:36.He appeals to people's hopes and not their fears.
:08:37. > :08:39.Because of how important this election is, I also want you to know
:08:40. > :08:45.that I am supporting Emmanuel Macron to lead you forward.
:08:46. > :08:54.But does the fact that Barack Obama is rooting for him,
:08:55. > :08:57.only reinforce the "elitist" tag, and demonstrate that this renegade
:08:58. > :09:03.presidential candidate is really the Establishment man?
:09:04. > :09:05.I'm joined from Paris Jean Pisoni Ferry who is co-ordinating Macron's
:09:06. > :09:08.economic programme and whose political and personal heritage
:09:09. > :09:11.is entwined with the development of the European Union and who has
:09:12. > :09:15.been described as Macron's eminence grise.
:09:16. > :09:26.Good evening. First of all, on that point, when Barack Obama intervened
:09:27. > :09:34.in Brexit, it was counter-productive. Is the Obama
:09:35. > :09:37.video not risky, because it looks like Macron, who claims not to be an
:09:38. > :09:48.establishment candidate, very much is? Well, I would not regret
:09:49. > :09:55.President Obama's short video, what he said is really genuine. He says
:09:56. > :10:02.what Macron stands for. He stands for hope and not for fear, it is
:10:03. > :10:07.exactly that, and President Obama have a strong image with the French
:10:08. > :10:12.public overall. So definitely I would not regret.
:10:13. > :10:20.I wonder what voters it might sway because how to explain that many
:10:21. > :10:25.Melenchon or Fillon supporters would rather not vote than vote for
:10:26. > :10:28.Macron? We are going through a realignment in French politics. This
:10:29. > :10:38.is extremely impressive what we are seeing. We see that about 25% of the
:10:39. > :10:44.voters chose candidates from established parties and 75% chose
:10:45. > :10:49.candidates from his party were barely represented in Parliament. So
:10:50. > :10:55.we are seeing something really new. We still have to understand what it
:10:56. > :11:00.means. Definitely, there is a divide across, within the electorate,
:11:01. > :11:07.between those who stand for more openness, who have hopes, who see
:11:08. > :11:15.opportunities, and those who are more fearful of the revolution. That
:11:16. > :11:19.is something we have seen elsewhere but we do hope it will turn
:11:20. > :11:27.differently in the French case. You are such a key part of a Emmanuel
:11:28. > :11:31.Macron's campaign and his plans for government, and I wonder if you
:11:32. > :11:35.yourself are saying the divide is so huge, what can Macron do to bring
:11:36. > :11:45.onside to 40% of French voters who are so far to the right? Macron is
:11:46. > :11:51.going to, if he wins, he is going to win on the basis of those who in the
:11:52. > :11:57.first round voted for him, plus those from the left and the right
:11:58. > :12:04.who do not want at all Marine Le Pen to be the next president. Now, he
:12:05. > :12:12.will have to implement an agenda of significant change, because the
:12:13. > :12:16.underlying situation we are living is deeply unsatisfactory and this
:12:17. > :12:23.election is an expression of the deep dissatisfaction of the fears of
:12:24. > :12:28.a significant fraction of the French voters. What will happen? If he
:12:29. > :12:33.wins, one of his first big jobs is having to deal with Brexit. He is
:12:34. > :12:38.reported as saying Brexit is a crime, it is a crime for the UK to
:12:39. > :12:43.leave and they will be facing servitude. A lot of heat has been in
:12:44. > :12:51.this divorce bill now and I wonder what does Emmanuel Macron think the
:12:52. > :12:59.UK should pay in that divorce? He is going to side with the 27. There
:13:00. > :13:07.will be a gauche nation about Brexit, about its implications, the
:13:08. > :13:14.terms -- there will be a negotiation. I just want to ask you,
:13:15. > :13:17.do you think Emmanuel Macron's position is near the 60 billion or
:13:18. > :13:24.the 100 billion we were hearing about last week? Annual Macron, I do
:13:25. > :13:27.think he will defer significantly from the French position, and I
:13:28. > :13:34.don't want to enter the detail at this stage. You were asking me about
:13:35. > :13:37.the significance of the French vote and the agenda Emmanuel Macron will
:13:38. > :13:42.put forward in France and I think he will start from there, because
:13:43. > :13:46.primarily he will be elected to change the French situation and the
:13:47. > :13:54.French economy and the social situation we are seeing. So I think
:13:55. > :13:58.that will be his domestic focus. Now, he is relieved pro-European,
:13:59. > :14:03.Europe is part of his agenda. He wants Europe to be part of the
:14:04. > :14:06.solution and that is really something also quite different from
:14:07. > :14:10.what we have seen in the UK, but also quite different from what we
:14:11. > :14:12.have seen in France in the past, where the French government were
:14:13. > :14:16.lukewarm about Europe. Thank you. The Screbrinica massacre in July
:14:17. > :14:18.1995 was one of the most dreadful More than 8,000 Muslim
:14:19. > :14:22.Bosniak boys and men were murdered by units
:14:23. > :14:24.of the Bosnian Serb Army under Ratko Mladic who captured
:14:25. > :14:26.the designated safe area supposedly under UN protection
:14:27. > :14:37.and commited genocide. Only six men survived
:14:38. > :14:39.the massacre and escaped. One of them continues to fight
:14:40. > :14:42.for justice and a decade ago actually returned to live
:14:43. > :14:44.in the town most associated Katie Razzall went to Srebrinica
:14:45. > :14:48.for this special report into one man's battle to take on the Serb
:14:49. > :14:51.deniers who say genocide We should warn you that
:14:52. > :14:56.Katie Razall's film includes graphic scenes from the time, which some
:14:57. > :15:11.viewers may find distressing. We didn't believe that we would be
:15:12. > :15:14.killed because there are so many people and I couldn't believe
:15:15. > :15:20.that they could kill all of us. In July 1995, Bosnian Serb soldiers
:15:21. > :15:23.shot dead thousands of unarmed It was Europe's worst atrocity
:15:24. > :15:39.since the Second World War. I had nightmares that
:15:40. > :15:49.I didn't ever get rid of. But today, the genocide verdicts
:15:50. > :15:56.of the International Court are being questioned by politicians
:15:57. > :16:01.and the town's new mayor, even here, where the
:16:02. > :16:04.massacres took place. Nejad Addic returned
:16:05. > :16:27.to Srebrenica five years ago. -- Nejad Addic returned
:16:28. > :16:29.to Srebrenica ten years ago. He and his wife Elvisa are bringing
:16:30. > :16:32.up their three daughters in what became the Republic
:16:33. > :16:35.of Srpska, the Bosnian Serb entity Nejad is one of it is believed only
:16:36. > :16:43.six survivors of around 8,000 I had a deep need inside me to come
:16:44. > :16:54.here, to show them that I survived. His return after the war
:16:55. > :17:01.was a gesture of defiance against those who wanted
:17:02. > :17:02.Muslims erased. But he says life is becoming
:17:03. > :17:08.increasingly difficult. I worry, because of discourse
:17:09. > :17:11.and the rhetoric I hear in Bosnia, We have a new indoctrinated
:17:12. > :17:18.generation of children. Everywhere you have propaganda,
:17:19. > :17:20.and because of that, my wife, During the war, Srebrenica
:17:21. > :17:33.became a UN safe haven, packed with fleeing Muslim Bosnian
:17:34. > :17:35.refugees, including Elvisa But the UN abandoned them in 1995
:17:36. > :17:41.when Bosnian Serb forces The leader of the Bosnian Serb
:17:42. > :17:59.forces, General Ratko Mladic, now on trial for genocide
:18:00. > :18:01.in The Hague, Women and children like
:18:02. > :18:07.Elvisa were bussed out. Nejad took us on the journey he made
:18:08. > :18:40.back in 1995, then as a prisoner, crammed into a truck with dozens
:18:41. > :18:42.of others, This is the place where the mass
:18:43. > :18:50.execution took place. I could see the lines and lines,
:18:51. > :18:55.rows and rows of dead bodies. I knew it was the end
:18:56. > :19:00.really, that moment. They ordered us to lay down
:19:01. > :19:07.and I just thought my mother would never know where I ended up,
:19:08. > :19:13.how I finished, and... Then they started
:19:14. > :19:28.fire and I was dying. I just could hear moans, moans
:19:29. > :19:31.of other people who were wounded. It was so painful, I just
:19:32. > :19:39.prayed to God to die. Then I noticed someone
:19:40. > :19:45.was moving in front of me The pair escaped when the soldiers
:19:46. > :20:14.went to collect more men to kill. Nejad was badly wounded
:20:15. > :20:20.and in terrible pain. As day broke and they crawled
:20:21. > :20:22.through the forest, the full scale and planning behind
:20:23. > :20:27.the massacre became apparent. After the war, the international
:20:28. > :20:32.effort to find and identify In amongst them, Nejad's
:20:33. > :20:39.father and uncle. I'm know that my uncle,
:20:40. > :20:42.his remains were found They wanted to hide it and rebury
:20:43. > :20:55.them again and because of that The current president
:20:56. > :21:06.of Republic of Srpska, doesn't accept the international
:21:07. > :21:08.court verdicts Here, they celebrate
:21:09. > :21:16.convicted war criminals, like the former president
:21:17. > :21:18.Radovan Karadzic as heroes. The wartime general Ratko Mladic
:21:19. > :21:21.is still on trial, but so far, six senior figures have been found
:21:22. > :21:24.guilty of genocide When Radovan Karadzic's
:21:25. > :21:31.second-in-command was released from prison a few years ago,
:21:32. > :21:52.he was feted. No longer a predominantly
:21:53. > :21:55.Muslim town, the scars of war are still visible
:21:56. > :21:58.in Srebrenica today. Last year, the town elected
:21:59. > :22:00.in new mayor who has promised It is the first time a Bosnian Serb
:22:01. > :22:09.has filled the role since the war, but his views on the Srebrenica
:22:10. > :22:11.massacre have caused alarm among some of the people
:22:12. > :22:13.who have returned. Do you believe Radovan
:22:14. > :22:44.Karadzic is a hero? Do you accept the judgment
:22:45. > :22:46.of the International Court that Some argue the Balkan War
:22:47. > :23:10.is a frozen conflict. That Republic of Srpska's ruling
:23:11. > :23:13.politicians still want to set up the entirely separate Bosnian Serb
:23:14. > :23:15.state they did not With international eyes focused
:23:16. > :23:24.elsewhere, the president really With international eyes focused
:23:25. > :23:27.elsewhere, the president regularly threatens a referendum on the entity
:23:28. > :23:30.seceding from Bosnia-Herzegovina. His mayor in Srebrenica is not
:23:31. > :23:55.averse to that idea. With the mood changing,
:23:56. > :23:57.Nejad and Elvisa tell me they already know Bosnians who have
:23:58. > :24:00.packed up and left. If you leave, who
:24:01. > :24:06.will be the winner? In that case, the genocide
:24:07. > :24:12.would pay off. Those who committed such horror,
:24:13. > :24:27.they would be the winner. Every year, on the anniversary,
:24:28. > :24:30.more men are buried in the vast memorial to the genocide
:24:31. > :24:33.victims of Srebrenica. Sometimes, a bone fragment
:24:34. > :24:40.is all that has been found. For 22 years, Nejad has carried
:24:41. > :24:43.the burden of being one survivor Amongst the dead, the father
:24:44. > :24:52.to whom he never got to say goodbye. This reminds me of the last
:24:53. > :24:57.moment, when I last saw my
:24:58. > :24:59.father in his house. I wondered, based on his
:25:00. > :25:02.experiences, whether Nejad has a warning about where unchecked
:25:03. > :25:05.nationalism can lead. Hatred, nationalistic
:25:06. > :25:14.conversation can take us to war, Very often I, ask myself
:25:15. > :25:19.where we are going now, because I fear very bad
:25:20. > :25:26.things in Europe. And what of true reconciliation
:25:27. > :25:29.here, where genocide is denied in the very place where
:25:30. > :25:35.it is judged to have happened? Those who had their hands bloody,
:25:36. > :25:39.if they come one day and ask for forgiveness,
:25:40. > :25:45.I think it wouldn't be a problem For now though, the divisions
:25:46. > :26:06.in a country apparently still so split along ethnic lines,
:26:07. > :26:13.look almost as wide as ever. You can see a longer version of that
:26:14. > :26:19.film on "Our World" on the BBC News Channel at 9:30 on Saturday
:26:20. > :26:21.and Sunday night and, Now the part of the programme that
:26:22. > :26:33.delivers a verbal punch. Viewsnight is designed
:26:34. > :26:36.to get your blood up. Tonight, that task falls to writer
:26:37. > :26:39.Afua Hirsh who has strong words Abolish faith schools,
:26:40. > :26:47.they harm children. -- Abolish faith schools,
:26:48. > :26:50.they harm integration. Britain has a problem
:26:51. > :26:51.with integration. But instead of any serious,
:26:52. > :26:58.long-term policies, The response has been confined to
:26:59. > :28:29.contrived and patronising measures. The Duke of Edinburgh,
:28:30. > :28:31.whose retirement from public duties was announced today,
:28:32. > :28:34.had a traumatic early life. He was evacuated from Greece
:28:35. > :28:37.in an orange box for a cot Perhaps that early resilience has
:28:38. > :28:45.fuelled him through his eventful 96 years during which,
:28:46. > :28:47.as consort, he has carried approximately 23,000 solo public
:28:48. > :28:49.duties and courted a measure So what do we expect from brand
:28:50. > :28:58."monarchy" by way of duty and public service and has Prince Philip
:28:59. > :29:01.genuinely delivered it? Roya Nikkhah is royal correspondent
:29:02. > :29:03.at The Sunday Times and Shon Faye is a
:29:04. > :29:17.writer and activist. First of all, do you think the
:29:18. > :29:22.Royals are the kind of essence of what you think is public duty and
:29:23. > :29:28.service? I think Prince Philip certainly is. This is a man for 70
:29:29. > :29:33.years has dedicated his life to supporting a one in which is frankly
:29:34. > :29:38.extraordinary service to the country. He has done it with
:29:39. > :29:41.forthright humour but he has achieved an enormous amount in
:29:42. > :29:45.public life for his charities which he has done quietly and not banged
:29:46. > :29:49.the drum about. I think his steadfastness and commitment to the
:29:50. > :29:56.monarchy is pretty extraordinary over 70 years. That point about
:29:57. > :30:00.charities, he is patron of something like 780 charities. Those charities
:30:01. > :30:07.clearly thought it was a benefit to them having his support? Yes, and I
:30:08. > :30:11.think that is an important part of what the monarchy does in public
:30:12. > :30:16.life. I suppose my query of that is we have come to accept the presence
:30:17. > :30:22.of the monarchy as it depoliticised mascot for the nation and the
:30:23. > :30:27.charitable sector. That allows us to depoliticised other issues like
:30:28. > :30:32.austerity and some of the social issues. It can be very good to have
:30:33. > :30:38.a royal attached to a cause but not to look at the underlying political
:30:39. > :30:45.causes. But there are some courses that they -- to which he was
:30:46. > :30:49.attached which are for the greater benefit of the nation? Yes, but
:30:50. > :30:55.equally, his position in respect of that, when we talk about his
:30:56. > :30:59.service, it is important to remember that his service, it is discussed on
:31:00. > :31:03.the news as if it was given fully willingly, but there is a huge
:31:04. > :31:08.amount of privilege which he received in return for that service.
:31:09. > :31:13.The point about privilege is obviously that the Queen was born
:31:14. > :31:20.into it but he wasn't, he had to come into it and I suppose in that
:31:21. > :31:24.sense, he inherited by way of marriage that sense of privilege?
:31:25. > :31:27.Yes, he inherited a sense of privilege but he also inherited
:31:28. > :31:31.having to give up his career. This was a man in the 1950s, it was
:31:32. > :31:36.generally assumed and believed he would have gone right to the top of
:31:37. > :31:39.the Navy. How many men in the 1950s were willing to give that up for a
:31:40. > :31:43.woman? He was actually born into privilege, but I do think we should
:31:44. > :31:55.look at the Duke of Edinburgh and think of
:31:56. > :32:00.him as an incredibly privileged man, he has led a privileged life but he
:32:01. > :32:02.has also done an enormous amount of work. Things like the Duke of
:32:03. > :32:04.Edinburgh's scheme which has helped young people right across the social
:32:05. > :32:07.strata. Yes, I never got my bronze! You did not get your bronze, but the
:32:08. > :32:12.fact that you know about it, was it something that was worth getting?
:32:13. > :32:16.Yes, certainly and there are plenty of examples of that. The younger
:32:17. > :32:21.royals speaking out about mental health recently. It should give us
:32:22. > :32:24.pause for thought saying Prince Philip is a privileged man and has
:32:25. > :32:28.worked hard all his life, there are plenty of people who have worked
:32:29. > :32:32.hard at their entire lives and do sacrifice and work hard. For the
:32:33. > :32:37.Royals, those sacrifices are elevated into a unique way in the
:32:38. > :32:45.way we discuss them. That you could also say that lots of celebrities,
:32:46. > :32:47.because they are good at football or modelling or whatever, you get a lot
:32:48. > :32:50.of money and they are in a huge position of privilege, and they
:32:51. > :32:54.didn't necessarily give back in the same way that you might regard
:32:55. > :32:58.someone who has been doing it for 70 years has given back? I would say
:32:59. > :33:03.the monarchy is a pretty unique institution that in this country it
:33:04. > :33:07.is the product of a class system and has been falling over hundreds of
:33:08. > :33:11.years, and it is also enriched by colonial spoils. We had a huge
:33:12. > :33:16.empire and we are still in its final days. We do, but the issue with that
:33:17. > :33:19.is, the public if they wanted to could probably get rid of the
:33:20. > :33:25.monarchy but every year when the nation is polled they are
:33:26. > :33:28.overwhelmingly in favour of keeping a monarchy. One also assumes that he
:33:29. > :33:33.will be working behind the scenes with the Queen? There is no doubt he
:33:34. > :33:34.will be working with every single day and supporting her still thank
:33:35. > :33:37.you. What's it like to be the Labour
:33:38. > :33:40.candidate in the general election when you think your leader
:33:41. > :33:43.is a disaster, in a seat which has a proud history of building
:33:44. > :33:45.nuclear powered submarines, when your leader is ambivalent
:33:46. > :33:47.at best to nuclear? Barrow-in-Furness in Cumbria
:33:48. > :33:49.was solidly Labour after the war until 1983, when Labour under
:33:50. > :33:51.Michael Foot campaigned for unilateral nuclear
:33:52. > :33:53.disarmament and lost the seat When Labour changed its policy,
:33:54. > :33:56.it took the seat back, but what now for Barrow-in-Furness,
:33:57. > :33:59.high up on the Tory target list? Filmmaker Nick Blakemore spent
:34:00. > :34:01.the first week of the campaign A vote for Labour
:34:02. > :34:19.is a vote for Corbyn I don't think he would be fit
:34:20. > :34:24.to be Prime Minister. Even if it were possible
:34:25. > :34:27.that it was going to happen. I want to be Labour candidate,
:34:28. > :34:30.but I'm not prepared to accept even the theoretical possibility
:34:31. > :34:36.that he will be Prime Minister. Because, one, it's not
:34:37. > :34:38.going to happen, but, two, it wouldn't be right,
:34:39. > :34:42.even if he did. I'm just really asking how
:34:43. > :34:45.you're planning to vote in the general election,
:34:46. > :34:47.how you're feeling I used to support Labour
:34:48. > :34:51.but I don't know at the moment. My daughter's a single
:34:52. > :34:54.parent and that. She doesn't get the support
:34:55. > :34:59.that she should. So, I mean, she's working as well,
:35:00. > :35:04.so it's really hard for her. How do we get people to vote
:35:05. > :35:07.for you, when you are ..the elected leader,
:35:08. > :35:18.forgive me, of the party, which I believe you represent
:35:19. > :35:21.or have you gone independent? I don't want to be
:35:22. > :35:28.against my party leader. He's got a reputation
:35:29. > :35:34.of marching for CND, he's got a proud reputation
:35:35. > :35:38.of being for peace and against war. The policies that have come
:35:39. > :35:43.to the fore, under Corbyn are what, And, I feel, motivate
:35:44. > :35:51.a lot of people. A business-as-usual election where
:35:52. > :35:56.the candidate goes in and they, sort of, either say nice things
:35:57. > :36:00.about the leader or they just try desperately not to mention him
:36:01. > :36:02.on the doorstep and hope that other people don't bring him up
:36:03. > :36:07.was just doomed to fail. I thought that was a good meeting,
:36:08. > :36:10.actually, because lots And they were...
:36:11. > :36:13.And party members in particular. There were people who weren't
:36:14. > :36:15.happy about what I said There were actually also party
:36:16. > :36:19.members who robustly agreed with it. But all of them in that meeting,
:36:20. > :36:23.at the end, said, yes, they were going to vote for me
:36:24. > :36:25.to vote Labour. So, actually, that is showing
:36:26. > :36:33.a level of coming together. Theresa May has been very
:36:34. > :36:35.smart and where she's been particularly smart,
:36:36. > :36:38.she's letting people believe that she's going to deliver some big
:36:39. > :36:40.Brexit iceberg I think she's going to
:36:41. > :36:46.deliver an ice cube. Brexit will still mean Brexit,
:36:47. > :36:49.but it'll be small enough to put They were nice enough,
:36:50. > :36:54.polite enough, but pretty adamant, Alan, where are we going right
:36:55. > :37:00.now, what's going on? As I understand it, a hotel
:37:01. > :37:03.in Barrow has rather shamefully, pitifully closed a venue
:37:04. > :37:07.because we were about to meet and hear from a lady
:37:08. > :37:09.called Anne-Marie Walters. And, for whatever reason,
:37:10. > :37:12.they've decided to pull it. So, we're going to see
:37:13. > :37:15.if we can change their minds. She's a lady who has
:37:16. > :37:18.a bit of a thing about... What do you call it?
:37:19. > :37:21.Colin will know. I was just wondering if the event
:37:22. > :37:30.has been cancelled this afternoon? The conference and events manager's
:37:31. > :37:38.cancelled that for us. I don't know the
:37:39. > :37:40.circumstances, I'm afraid. Can they legally do
:37:41. > :37:49.that, do you think? Somebody's come a long way
:37:50. > :37:56.to talk to us about stuff, I'm very sorry about that, gents,
:37:57. > :38:06.but the event won't be taking place. That's a very good example
:38:07. > :38:08.of what we're up against. So, I'm the candidate
:38:09. > :38:20.for the Conservatives Can I ask, have you been
:38:21. > :38:27.a Conservative voter all your life? I believe in, more than anything
:38:28. > :38:31.else, a small state, people being able to get
:38:32. > :38:33.on with their own lives without the burden of government
:38:34. > :38:36.telling them what to do. I was just wondering, you know,
:38:37. > :38:39.have you made your mind up I've just have deep-rooted
:38:40. > :38:46.socialist background. I'm afraid I won't be voting
:38:47. > :38:48.for the Conservatives. Everyone's in a tough position
:38:49. > :38:57.because of the economic mess But actually, you can't get
:38:58. > :39:00.into a decent position unless you've got a strong
:39:01. > :39:03.and stable economy. How do you deliver efficiency
:39:04. > :39:05.when ?200 million worth Well, I think you have
:39:06. > :39:09.to look at where services You have to look at where
:39:10. > :39:13.services can be shared. Let's make no bones about it,
:39:14. > :39:16.we are still in a difficult financial situation across the UK,
:39:17. > :39:25.but in Cumbria, as well. You know, if FGM stood
:39:26. > :39:37.for Female Gob Manipulation I could probably be talked into it,
:39:38. > :39:39.but it doesn't. That was a little joke,
:39:40. > :39:42.then, you missed it! Firstly, I'd just like to thank
:39:43. > :39:45.the Lisdoonie Hotel for saving I'd also like to congratulate
:39:46. > :39:50.Mr Alan Piper for being selected unanimously to stand for Ukip
:39:51. > :39:55.for the very first time... I've been called every far right
:39:56. > :40:03.fascist, racist under the sun, If we don't really do something
:40:04. > :40:11.about FGM now, we never will. I don't think that Muslims' opinions
:40:12. > :40:15.on things are the only Now, we're not going to cure Sharia
:40:16. > :40:21.in seven weeks, I don't disagree at all with what you're
:40:22. > :40:23.saying about it. Because we've got to convince
:40:24. > :40:30.the electorate in this And if you've got somebody
:40:31. > :40:34.who is not solid Brexit, There's lots of claims about "We're
:40:35. > :40:49.all in it together" and "we're all citizens" and "we're all working
:40:50. > :40:52.together", but some of us are in And that's how people
:40:53. > :40:55.feel in Barrow. My name's Loraine Birchall, I'm
:40:56. > :40:57.the Liberal Democrat candidate... I don't feel this area
:40:58. > :40:59.should be forgotten. That's someone we would hope to work
:41:00. > :41:07.with literature and convince him I feel that we need to put up
:41:08. > :41:16.a candidate to give people in this This is the worst period
:41:17. > :41:22.for so many people. The number of people
:41:23. > :41:25.using food banks, the number Barrow, in particular, is dependent
:41:26. > :41:31.on BAE as a source of employment. And people are saying they wouldn't
:41:32. > :41:33.vote green, because the greens We see the potential for something
:41:34. > :41:40.amazing to happen at the shipyard, we just don't happen to believe that
:41:41. > :41:42.building weapons The thing is, if Labour get in,
:41:43. > :41:51.can you stop Trident? That is why I've decided
:41:52. > :41:58.to be honest about this. What I think is not in the interest
:41:59. > :42:02.of areas like here and areas right across the North of England
:42:03. > :42:05.and beyond, is to have this sort of Tory whitewash,
:42:06. > :42:07.where there are no Labour voices So that is the message we're trying
:42:08. > :42:14.to get across on the doorstep. I don't know if it's
:42:15. > :42:26.going to work yet. We will have all the big political
:42:27. > :42:42.results tomorrow night. Until then, good night.
:42:43. > :42:43.Hello. There will be a bit of a frost first thing in rural parts of