11/07/2017

Download Subtitles

Transcript

:00:15. > :01:43.MUSIC: "A Shot In The Dark" - Henry Mancini

:01:44. > :01:47.Could these emails change everything for Trump?

:01:48. > :01:49.Has the claim of collusion between his campaign

:01:50. > :01:58.Also tonight, a Newsnight investigation reveals shocking high

:01:59. > :02:23.For 90 hours I have received ?200, which is less than ?3 an hour.

:02:24. > :02:34.The issue once again is claimed collusion between the Trump

:02:35. > :02:41.The president and those around him have repeatedly denied knowledge

:02:42. > :02:47.of any alleged attempt by Moscow to swing last autumn's election.

:02:48. > :02:52.But today, Donald Trump's son, Donald Junior, was forced to release

:02:53. > :02:55.a string of emails suggesting he knowingly met last summer

:02:56. > :03:00.with Russian officials who promised to dish dirt on Hillary Clinton.

:03:01. > :03:06.Today, Democratic Senator Tim Kaine - Mrs Clinton's running mate -

:03:07. > :03:07.said, "in terms of what's being investigated,

:03:08. > :03:10.this is moving into perjury, false statements and even

:03:11. > :03:15.A former Watergate prosecutor described the emails

:03:16. > :03:22.The president, meanwhile, defended his son as "a high quality

:03:23. > :03:36.They only actually met last week but the exact relationship between

:03:37. > :03:40.President Trump and his Russian counterpart is a constant theme

:03:41. > :03:46.among critics. There were plenty of allegations but not much fact. Now,

:03:47. > :03:48.details of a meeting between meeting Willett were members of the Trump

:03:49. > :03:55.campaign and a Russian lawyer have changed that. The picture is rapidly

:03:56. > :03:59.evolving, the President's son having to shift his position over the last

:04:00. > :04:04.three days and the publication of fresh details of the meeting in June

:04:05. > :04:07.last year by the New York Times prompted the President's eldest son

:04:08. > :04:12.to release what he said was the entire e-mail chain. On the 3rd of

:04:13. > :04:17.June, Rob Goldstone, a British publicist acting for Russian clients

:04:18. > :04:21.told Mr Trump Junior that he could introduce him to someone who had

:04:22. > :04:37.been briefed by the Russian authorities who...

:04:38. > :04:44.The tycoon's son replied within minutes saying...

:04:45. > :04:49.On the 7th of June, the date having been set for the meeting, Mr

:04:50. > :04:57.Goldstone referred to the person coming over as ... Donald Trump Jr

:04:58. > :05:07.replied that the meeting would take place at Trump Tower in New York.

:05:08. > :05:12.In releasing the e-mails, Donald Trump Jr wrote that he was being

:05:13. > :05:20.totally transparent and reiterated that the Russian lawyer, Natalia

:05:21. > :05:24.Veselnitskaya,... Had no information to provide and wanted to talk about

:05:25. > :05:27.adoption policy. Earlier today the lawyer insisted that she was never

:05:28. > :05:31.in possession of information that could have damaged Hillary Clinton

:05:32. > :05:37.but that Trump's people definitely wanted it. TRANSLATION: It's quite

:05:38. > :05:43.possible that maybe they were looking for such information, they

:05:44. > :05:46.wanted it so badly. Rob Goldstone has previously told the New York

:05:47. > :05:50.Times that the meeting produced no new information. He has also

:05:51. > :05:56.clarified that the lawyer was not a Kremlin official. The President's

:05:57. > :06:02.legal team have said that he was not aware and did not attend the June

:06:03. > :06:06.meeting. But the e-mail publication raises questions about the various

:06:07. > :06:14.shifts in Donald Trump Jr's position on the meeting, from initially

:06:15. > :06:16.denying he had anything -- he had -- it had anything to do with the

:06:17. > :06:18.Hillary Clinton campaign. The BBC's Paul Wood has been

:06:19. > :06:20.investigating President Trump's alleged links with Russia

:06:21. > :06:27.since last summer. You come in on a day when you were

:06:28. > :06:32.moving house, I think, so I assume you think this is areas? You

:06:33. > :06:35.couldn't miss this, there have been many bad days for the club

:06:36. > :06:40.administration on Russia and this is the worst, the most serious. First

:06:41. > :06:43.principles, the US intelligence agencies and say that Russia

:06:44. > :06:49.interfered in the US presidential election and did so to get Mr Trump

:06:50. > :06:56.elected. The White House has always denied that narrative, a senior

:06:57. > :07:05.official said that it was political, from the top of the agencies. I

:07:06. > :07:09.think it will be difficult for the White House to keep to this line now

:07:10. > :07:12.that we have Donald Trump Jr accenting a meeting on the basis

:07:13. > :07:17.that it is the Russian government trying to hand over information --

:07:18. > :07:24.Axar Patel a meeting. Hundreds of FBI agents are looking at whether

:07:25. > :07:27.the Trump campaign colluded with the Russian intelligence services,

:07:28. > :07:30.specifically, according to members of the Obama administration who saw

:07:31. > :07:35.the intelligence, it is alleged that members of the Trump campaign

:07:36. > :07:41.directed the Kremlin to which Democratic party members to hack.

:07:42. > :07:45.Looking at these e-mail exchanges that Donald Trump Jr published

:07:46. > :07:50.today, the meeting was not about telling the Russians where to hack,

:07:51. > :07:53.he was being offered official Russian information, damaging to

:07:54. > :07:58.Hillary Clinton allegedly, but not the result of illegal actions on US

:07:59. > :08:03.soil, according to those e-mails. That may not help him much, not

:08:04. > :08:08.least because if you cast your mind back to the Christopher Steele

:08:09. > :08:12.dossier, the former MI6 man who got things running with this report, he

:08:13. > :08:15.said that there had been an eight year exchange of information between

:08:16. > :08:20.Russia and the Trump campaign and this information fits into that. One

:08:21. > :08:26.network anchor said today that it Donald Trump Jr wasn't colluding,

:08:27. > :08:30.then he was collusion curious. You have given some hints about your

:08:31. > :08:34.contact with people from the administration and we have seen a

:08:35. > :08:38.tweet from the president saying, who wouldn't be interested in

:08:39. > :08:43.information from the opposition? Is that the line they are going to

:08:44. > :08:46.take? What is their strategy? I think they are in a panic. It was

:08:47. > :08:51.telling that the White House press briefing wasn't on camera and the

:08:52. > :08:55.spokesperson said, talk to the lawyers, when asked a question.

:08:56. > :09:00.Telling that Donald Trump Jr changed his story. His explanation was

:09:01. > :09:03.initially that he was meeting about Russian orphans being adopted by

:09:04. > :09:10.American parents but when the New York Times had the e-mails, he went

:09:11. > :09:14.public. I think you can see the white house falling back on the

:09:15. > :09:19.naivete defence, we have heard this from their supporters in Congress,

:09:20. > :09:21.saying that they were not involved in politics before, they did not

:09:22. > :09:25.know what they were getting into, they did not realise that they were

:09:26. > :09:30.breaking the law, that was the defence when Jared Kushner did not

:09:31. > :09:33.mention a meeting with a Russian ambassador on his official forms.

:09:34. > :09:38.Whether that works, remains to be seen. There is an investigation,

:09:39. > :09:42.probably more to come out. Having spoken to three intelligence sources

:09:43. > :09:46.who have seen classified intercepts they have said there is no specific

:09:47. > :09:52.conversation speaking of a conspiracy but there are a number of

:09:53. > :09:56.suspicious contacts and that is what this investigation will be looking

:09:57. > :09:58.at. You can bet if the New York Times has the transcript then the

:09:59. > :10:04.intelligence services have many more of them. This is the worst day so

:10:05. > :10:08.far but I think there will be more bad days on Russia for the club

:10:09. > :10:12.administration to come. Thank you, you'd better get back to your moving

:10:13. > :10:14.-- for the Trump administration. Michael Wolff is writing a book

:10:15. > :10:16.about President Donald He has been a critic of the liberal

:10:17. > :10:30.media. I asked him what he made of the

:10:31. > :10:38.latest chapter in the saga. This is a real one. We now have evidence,

:10:39. > :10:45.and let's be very precise about what we do now know, we now know that the

:10:46. > :10:51.Russian government reached out to embrace the Trump campaign and that

:10:52. > :10:56.the Trump campaign was very willing to be embraced by the Russian

:10:57. > :11:02.government. Now, there's no crime there that we know of yet but we

:11:03. > :11:08.certainly are a big step forward that to the Stourton stands -- to

:11:09. > :11:11.the circumstance in which there could be collusion in the commission

:11:12. > :11:18.of a crime and that's in Portland because just to establish collusion,

:11:19. > :11:24.as the Trump people are saying today, is not a crime -- that's

:11:25. > :11:27.important because. What about electoral law, soliciting a foreign

:11:28. > :11:33.contribution, doesn't that put Donald Trump Jr into difficult legal

:11:34. > :11:42.waters? I think that's kind of a sideshow at this point. One of the

:11:43. > :11:48.other aspects of this is going on is the media response to this, which is

:11:49. > :11:56.a paroxysm of glee and delight and I told you so and "Game over". The

:11:57. > :12:06.media has gone through this paroxysm many times before and if the media

:12:07. > :12:16.has done anything on this story, it's gotten ahead of where the story

:12:17. > :12:23.really is. So, this is... This has taken a clear step forward but it is

:12:24. > :12:28.by no means where the media thinks it is or thinks it is where it

:12:29. > :12:34.should be. People have obviously got carried away, we note Mr Trump has

:12:35. > :12:40.plenty of enemies in the liberal media but you yourself, as someone

:12:41. > :12:45.with very good... I would like to clarify that, everyone in De Lima

:12:46. > :12:53.will -- everyone in the liberal media is a Trump any make -- is a

:12:54. > :12:57.Trump enemy. This has not been judged by a court yet, there hasn't

:12:58. > :13:01.been a real legal thrashing out of the issue but it is important and

:13:02. > :13:11.quantitatively different. No, you have just taken a major leap beyond

:13:12. > :13:18.what we know. It's not a question of a court. You couldn't at this point

:13:19. > :13:27.say what crime may have been committed here. It looks terrible,

:13:28. > :13:30.they associate with really a lot of dubious characters, it is Russia,

:13:31. > :13:41.after all. I mean, the story couldn't sound, appear worse, but,

:13:42. > :13:48.but, there is no nexus in which anyone can establish a crime. Just

:13:49. > :13:53.taking dirt from the Russians on Hillary Clinton isn't a crime.

:13:54. > :14:04.It's a benefit potentially under the law. No. If somebody's -- somebody

:14:05. > :14:10.slipped you a little Mickey here. Forget the electoral laws, it is not

:14:11. > :14:16.relevant. You have done bad research on this. You have good lines into

:14:17. > :14:19.the Trump White House, you have good access. How obsessed do you think

:14:20. > :14:25.the president has become with this issue? We heard reports at the time

:14:26. > :14:29.of the James Comey dismissal of him saying to the Russians, I get rid of

:14:30. > :14:34.the problem. This seems to be an issue that has bedevilled him. There

:14:35. > :14:40.is no question about this. The president is... This is top of mind

:14:41. > :14:44.for the president, top of mind forever be in the White House. They

:14:45. > :14:54.have taken steps, structural steps, to deal with this. They have

:14:55. > :15:00.modelled their response after the way the Clintons handled Monica

:15:01. > :15:06.Lewinsky. Which resulted in the impeachment of the present, by the

:15:07. > :15:12.way. This is central to what is going on in the White House right

:15:13. > :15:13.now. Thank you so much. Where does this go from here?

:15:14. > :15:15.Mark Mazzetti is the Washington Investigations Editor

:15:16. > :15:20.He has been overseeing the paper's investigations

:15:21. > :15:39.Can I just start by asking you, doesn't this meeting in June 2016,

:15:40. > :15:46.and the fact that these people in Trump Tower seemed so keen to take

:15:47. > :15:53.it, suggest there was no pipeline or formal connections with the Russians

:15:54. > :15:59.until this point? I mean, I wouldn't draw eye conclusions either way

:16:00. > :16:02.necessarily. Certainly there were contacts, there was a relationship

:16:03. > :16:11.going back several years before -- between Donald Trump Jr and the man

:16:12. > :16:17.associated with the Miss universe pageant in 2013. I would be careful

:16:18. > :16:23.and I would be caution everybody else to not draw direct conclusions

:16:24. > :16:26.either way about this meeting, and to not go beyond where the facts

:16:27. > :16:31.are. We know based on the reporting of the last several days that this

:16:32. > :16:34.meeting was brokered because Donald Trump Jr believed the Russian

:16:35. > :16:37.government had damaging information about Hillary Clinton, and was very

:16:38. > :16:42.eager to take the meeting. We're still trying to figure out what

:16:43. > :16:47.became of that, if anything. What information was discussed. I think

:16:48. > :16:54.it is a significant development in that we now have a detail about a

:16:55. > :16:58.significant meeting, but there is more work to be done to put pieces

:16:59. > :17:03.together either way. Where does it take us in terms of the familiar

:17:04. > :17:07.Trump allegation that the Trump Tower was bogged? Just in terms of

:17:08. > :17:14.potential incidental collection by US intelligence agencies, that may

:17:15. > :17:18.have brought these e-mails to light, does that suggest there was into --

:17:19. > :17:25.incidental collection in that case? Not at all. No one has alleged that

:17:26. > :17:35.these e-mails were intercepted by US intelligence agencies, or American

:17:36. > :17:42.law-enforcement. So no, there has been no suggestion at all. You

:17:43. > :17:50.saying they weren't? In sync there is absolutely no evidence to suggest

:17:51. > :17:57.that. -- I'm saying. The whole story will come at ride. Nothing reported

:17:58. > :18:02.so far suggests there was any involvement of American intelligence

:18:03. > :18:05.agencies. Where do you take your investigation next? What are you

:18:06. > :18:12.hunting for in terms of connections and communications between these key

:18:13. > :18:19.individuals? A lot of it is where the same questions remain. Was there

:18:20. > :18:24.a concerted effort between the Trump campaign under the Russian

:18:25. > :18:28.government to share information, to coordinate on message, to some are

:18:29. > :18:33.actively try to help Donald Trump? We saw from this meeting that there

:18:34. > :18:40.was at least interest on the part of the Trump campaign. It does not show

:18:41. > :18:44.that there was an active campaign of collusion or really that there was

:18:45. > :18:51.any direct evidence that their actions taken that had any impact.

:18:52. > :18:55.There are still questions about the president, there are still questions

:18:56. > :19:01.about some of his advisers and a lot of stuff -- suspicious contacts that

:19:02. > :19:04.need to be run to ground. Clearly we will watch the pages of your paper

:19:05. > :19:07.and await your next instalment. Thank you very much.

:19:08. > :19:09.What's happening to the workplace, workers' rights, and how

:19:10. > :19:11.the government regulates or taxes all this?

:19:12. > :19:14.They're big questions, which Matthew Taylor

:19:15. > :19:16.attempted to answer today, as he published his review

:19:17. > :19:21.But will the government implement it?

:19:22. > :19:25.And do companies even observe the rules in their present form?

:19:26. > :19:27.Newsnight teamed up to with colleagues from BBC London

:19:28. > :19:33.to investigate the work practices of one high street company -

:19:34. > :19:36.and the results, such as pay equivalent to one third

:19:37. > :19:53.We have been investigating a company working in some of the UK's

:19:54. > :20:06.We found workers exhausted and controlled.

:20:07. > :20:12.Seemingly paid below the minimum wage and denied key work benefits.

:20:13. > :20:22.In what's called bogus self-employment.

:20:23. > :20:24.There are none of the hallmarks there, really,

:20:25. > :20:38.But worse still, this seems to me to be exploitation of workers.

:20:39. > :20:46.This is our undercover researcher Carla - not her real name.

:20:47. > :20:49.She will try to get a job in a company called Soap Co,

:20:50. > :20:51.who sell skin products from the Dead Sea.

:20:52. > :20:54.They have got stores across London, including at one of the UK's

:20:55. > :21:11.largest shopping centres, Westfield.

:21:12. > :21:15.Carla has been invited for an interview with

:21:16. > :21:26.And was clear about one thing right from the start.

:21:27. > :21:50.And Carla goes on to sign the contract.

:21:51. > :21:54.Plenty of references to her being self-employed,

:21:55. > :21:59.The key though isn't necessarily what's in the contract.

:22:00. > :22:03.It's what actually happens in practice.

:22:04. > :22:07.She should be able to choose as someone who is self-employed.

:22:08. > :22:09.But she has to work a schedule at Soap Co

:22:10. > :22:13.at Westfield Shopping Centre, and also at Covent Garden,

:22:14. > :22:41.She commences work, selling skincare products on commission,

:22:42. > :22:57.And staff are compelled to work with only one day off a week.

:22:58. > :23:02.Do you know if we can take days off on the weekends?

:23:03. > :23:18.We're not allowed two days off, are we?

:23:19. > :23:24.A self-employed person would ordinarily be free to do the work,

:23:25. > :23:28.or not to do the work, on a given day.

:23:29. > :23:32.And if they chose not to do the work, then they have the right

:23:33. > :23:34.to provide a substitute, someone else to do that

:23:35. > :23:40.And that's not what we saw was happening here.

:23:41. > :23:44.And it quickly becomes clear that staff are heavily controlled,

:23:45. > :23:46.forced to clean without pay, reprimanded for arriving

:23:47. > :24:02.I didn't realise I was running late, sorry.

:24:03. > :24:04.And subject to intense scrutiny, and penalties, including

:24:05. > :24:39.Some of the workers Carla speaks to are exhausted

:24:40. > :24:55.So you've been here like six hours, five hours?

:24:56. > :25:43.Snezhana from Bulgaria, like many of the workers here,

:25:44. > :25:46.was recruited from abroad by Soap Co, with the offer of

:25:47. > :25:54.When people are pushing you and they stress you every day -

:25:55. > :25:59.six days, 12 hours, you are under stress all the time -

:26:00. > :26:02.and in one moment you are like, OK, that's it for me,

:26:03. > :26:07.I was thinking that I would come to do something with my life.

:26:08. > :26:14.And after that, I become like without any money.

:26:15. > :26:19.Basically, they left me without nothing.

:26:20. > :26:23.By claiming staff are self-employed, this company avoid having to pay

:26:24. > :26:28.a whole host of in work benefits, such as sick and holiday pay

:26:29. > :26:33.And when Carla collects her first pay packet, it is well under

:26:34. > :26:38.the National Minimum Wage for the hours she has worked.

:26:39. > :26:40.For 90 hours I have received ?200, which makes it

:26:41. > :27:02.Arpita Dutt is one of several employment lawyers who have

:27:03. > :27:04.now reviewed the BBC's evidence and footage.

:27:05. > :27:09.It reminds me of our bygone days, those days where we used to have

:27:10. > :27:19.Based on all the evidence that I've seen, this is false self-employment.

:27:20. > :27:27.And this is much more an employment relationship than any I have seen.

:27:28. > :27:30.But unfortunately, quite an exploitative

:27:31. > :27:38.Soap Co says it takes its responsibilities under

:27:39. > :27:41.UK law very seriously, and are extremely concerned

:27:42. > :27:46.about the allegations about their company's working arrangements.

:27:47. > :27:48.They are now reviewing those allegations and the implications,

:27:49. > :27:54.if any, regarding the employment status of those who work with them.

:27:55. > :27:56.We also tried to contact these managers we filmed.

:27:57. > :28:04.Bogus self-employment allows companies to get away with not

:28:05. > :28:08.spending vast amounts of cash on their staff.

:28:09. > :28:13.We have been told of many similar cases of employment laws

:28:14. > :28:17.being abused, orkers exploited, their basic rights denied.

:28:18. > :28:23.Westfield told us tonight, that the company was concerned

:28:24. > :28:28.about the reports regarding Soap Co, but was unable to comment

:28:29. > :28:33.In a statement, the firm said shops in their stores were responsible

:28:34. > :28:41.Separately, we should point out that our report

:28:42. > :28:47.There is another organisation with a similar name - The Soap Co -

:28:48. > :28:49.but it has no connections to Soap Co.

:28:50. > :28:52.It has been described as the worst treatment disaster

:28:53. > :28:58.Between 1970 and 1991, around 6,000 people became infected

:28:59. > :29:06.with hepatitis C after receiving blood products from the NHS.

:29:07. > :29:09.Another 1,500 were infected with HIV.

:29:10. > :29:15.Most had been receiving treatment for haemophilia.

:29:16. > :29:17.More than 2,000 are since believed to have died.

:29:18. > :29:20.In the years since then, governments have apologised and some of those

:29:21. > :29:27.But calls for a full public inquiry into the scandal have

:29:28. > :29:33.Today that changed, when Theresa May announced unexpectedly

:29:34. > :29:36.to her cabinet that she would order an inquiry, precise

:29:37. > :29:43.The move may not have been entirely unconnected to the threat

:29:44. > :29:49.the Prime Minister faced of potentially losing a Commons

:29:50. > :29:54.vote on an emergency motion on the subject.

:29:55. > :30:01.I want to ensure that this inquiry is going to provide the answers

:30:02. > :30:04.that the victims and their families want, as to how this

:30:05. > :30:11.And they have waited too long for these answers.

:30:12. > :30:14.What we want to do is talk with the families, talk to them

:30:15. > :30:17.about the shape that this inquiry should take, so we ensure

:30:18. > :30:20.that it is able to provide the answers and justice

:30:21. > :30:28.One of those who has been waiting for almost two decades for light

:30:29. > :30:30.to be shone onto the scandal of the NHS' contaminated

:30:31. > :30:38.Her father Steven was a haemophiliac who contracted Hepatitis C and HIV

:30:39. > :30:43.through a contaminated blood transfusion in the mid 1980s.

:30:44. > :30:50.Before he realised he had unknowingly passed HIV

:30:51. > :30:53.to his wife Barbara and when Lauren was just nine years old,

:30:54. > :30:58.she lost both her parents in the space of eight days.

:30:59. > :31:05.Having gone through that terrible tragedy, did you feel all so that

:31:06. > :31:14.you were growing up with a stigma? Massively. I was told that I

:31:15. > :31:21.couldn't breathe a word of what had happened, with the association, the

:31:22. > :31:26.stigma around HIV alone. So I never spoke of it when I was younger at

:31:27. > :31:31.all. It's only really recently, the last couple of years that I've been

:31:32. > :31:36.more open about it, especially with my job as well, it's quite

:31:37. > :31:43.encouraged because charity is based around HIV so I've started telling

:31:44. > :31:50.my story but yes, growing up, it was literally just, couldn't talk about

:31:51. > :31:58.it. Who did you live with after this happened? Why was taken into care by

:31:59. > :32:03.legal guardianship of my auntie and uncle, my mother's sister at the

:32:04. > :32:12.time. What does today's announcement mean to you? Such a relief, it

:32:13. > :32:18.couldn't have been better news. I know for a fact that so many people

:32:19. > :32:23.have been fighting for this outcome for many, many years. I'm one of the

:32:24. > :32:27.lucky ones, I've literally just come into the campaign off the back of

:32:28. > :32:33.the panorama TV show but there are people who have been relentlessly

:32:34. > :32:43.fighting and continually campaigning for this for such a long time. I am

:32:44. > :32:48.beyond happy with the results today. It wasn't expected so even more of a

:32:49. > :32:53.relief I think for us all. You say that it wasn't expected and it's 20

:32:54. > :32:56.years. Presumably for much of your life you've gone through this

:32:57. > :33:02.assuming that this thing would never be properly dealt with and you would

:33:03. > :33:11.never receive a real explanation, of everything that happened and why.

:33:12. > :33:16.No, this... Like you say, very unexpected but we are over the moon

:33:17. > :33:21.with it and it is just the beginning now. It's going to take a long time,

:33:22. > :33:27.a long fight to get the real truth and justice and answers about what

:33:28. > :33:32.actually happened. What is the end point of the process? Is it seeing

:33:33. > :33:40.people in the dock, prosecutions? It is close off all of us who have been

:33:41. > :33:46.affected, and those who have been infected, because no one has been

:33:47. > :33:52.accountable for it -- it is closure for all of us. We want to know what

:33:53. > :33:59.happened, how it happened, how a mistake of this magnitude can occur.

:34:00. > :34:06.We just want answers, that's all we want, we want justice, for the

:34:07. > :34:10.system to be... And if that means people being taken to court, as

:34:11. > :34:16.happened in France for example, then that's part of the process for you?

:34:17. > :34:22.It is, yes. To what extent did your parents understand the cause of what

:34:23. > :34:29.had happened to them and to what extent would they have wanted to see

:34:30. > :34:32.this day? I know my mum was fighting for about three years before she

:34:33. > :34:38.passed away, and she never got anywhere with it. It was passed onto

:34:39. > :34:45.my aunt, who then continually tried to find answers and fought for a

:34:46. > :34:51.good few years, but it fell on deaf ears and didn't amount to anything

:34:52. > :34:56.so now I am holding the flag for my mum, doing it for her and the other

:34:57. > :35:02.families that have been affected by this. A real community out there

:35:03. > :35:06.now. We all want the same thing, that's what we all want. Thank you

:35:07. > :35:09.so much for explaining that to us. Thank you for having me.

:35:10. > :35:11.The Grenfell Tower tragedy has yielded many

:35:12. > :35:15.From some miraculously saved, to others who had to leave

:35:16. > :35:18.behind family members, never to see them again.

:35:19. > :35:22.Many of us probably remember the story of a 16-year-old girl

:35:23. > :35:26.who sat her GCSE exams in her pyjamas the morning

:35:27. > :35:30.after that dreadful night, one month ago.

:35:31. > :35:34.That was Ines Alves, who lived on the 13th floor.

:35:35. > :35:37.Well, her mother, Fatima Alves, hasn't spoken publicly before

:35:38. > :35:41.about what the family has been through.

:35:42. > :35:44.But she and her husband have been recounting their experience

:35:45. > :35:53.to our special correspondent, Katie Razall.

:35:54. > :36:00.Many people, they passed away, they died, they are ashes now.

:36:01. > :36:03.Keeping busy helps Miguel Alves forget.

:36:04. > :36:09.Now, ironically, he and his wife are at a fundraiser for victims

:36:10. > :36:11.of recent fires in Portugal, his home country.

:36:12. > :36:16.They put on a brave face but they are tormented

:36:17. > :36:18.by what happened in the home they owned and had lived

:36:19. > :36:23.The worst thing is seeing the people waving and banging

:36:24. > :36:32.When I close my eyes, every time I can still see them,

:36:33. > :36:47.We met them again a few days later at their hotel.

:36:48. > :36:53.It seems unreal, even now, a month after it seems unreal.

:36:54. > :36:58.I think in my mind, I still have that hope...

:36:59. > :37:08.I'm going to my flat, you know, wake up from the nightmare and say

:37:09. > :37:15.this was just a nightmare, we all go back to that place

:37:16. > :37:17.where we built ourselves, you know, with love.

:37:18. > :37:24.Famously, their daughter, Ines, sat her chemistry GCSE

:37:25. > :37:36.I said, you can't go like that when she said

:37:37. > :37:40.You can't go because you have no uniform and she said,

:37:41. > :37:45.I've been studying very hard, I'm not going to miss my exam.

:37:46. > :37:48.For this past month, the Alveses have reflected

:37:49. > :38:00.Continue our lives, with or without the belongings.

:38:01. > :38:04.And I know that there are people much worse than us,

:38:05. > :38:08.they lost their belongings and they lost their families.

:38:09. > :38:18.I think we are the luckiest family in the building.

:38:19. > :38:21.That's because although their children were already

:38:22. > :38:23.upstairs in the flat, the Alves parents arrived home

:38:24. > :38:27.as the fire was starting and, as luck would have it,

:38:28. > :38:30.they got into the lift with two men going to the floor

:38:31. > :38:35.They exited at the fourth floor and we saw smoke,

:38:36. > :38:40.so our instinct was to get out of the lift, straight

:38:41. > :38:45.to the staircase and he said to me, you go down to the garage and get

:38:46. > :38:47.the phone I left in the car, while I go upstairs

:38:48. > :38:57.And they woke up all the neighbours, the our children and then

:38:58. > :39:00.when I came out of the building I asked, I opened the door

:39:01. > :39:02.for the firefighters, they were arriving at that moment

:39:03. > :39:09.I led them to the staircase and then I asked one of them,

:39:10. > :39:13.is it safe to stay in the building, and he said no, you stay here.

:39:14. > :39:19.I said yeah but my children and my husband are upstairs

:39:20. > :39:24.because at that moment my husband was already upstairs in the flat.

:39:25. > :39:26.And he said yes, but my husband and children are upstairs

:39:27. > :39:29.in the flat and he said, which floor, and I said 13.

:39:30. > :39:32.He said to tell them to stay inside, close the doors

:39:33. > :39:37.Of course we now know that was the advice given

:39:38. > :39:41.to many of the families in Grenfell on the night and was part

:39:42. > :39:49.Fortunately for everyone on the 13th floor, Miguel didn't heed it.

:39:50. > :39:52.I was calm when I went out to get the kids, I was very calm.

:39:53. > :40:06.I thought it was too much to wake them up but I did anyway.

:40:07. > :40:12.Even if I broke the rules, they are there to be broken sometimes.

:40:13. > :40:18.The family turned down the offer of a flat, holding out for more

:40:19. > :40:28.A month has passed but for them it's as if time stands still.

:40:29. > :40:31.I know there was a distance between us but it was like

:40:32. > :40:38.looking at us, help, help, help, begging and waving

:40:39. > :40:40.with the clothes and torches outside the window,

:40:41. > :40:42.and saying, I'm here, I'm here, and we

:40:43. > :40:47.Me and my husband went to a police officer,

:40:48. > :40:49.a policeman and we said there are a lot of people

:40:50. > :40:53.inside the flats and he said, calm down, the firefighters

:40:54. > :40:59.are inside, they deal with the situation, they know

:41:00. > :41:02.what to do and we trust because they are professionals,

:41:03. > :41:10.The family treasure the few videos and photos

:41:11. > :41:15.Their daughter playing piano with a young friend,

:41:16. > :41:17.but nothing can bring back their home or the

:41:18. > :41:27.Every day I look for that tower and...

:41:28. > :41:34.That's it for today, which also happens to be the first

:41:35. > :41:37.anniversary of Theresa May becoming leader of the Conservative Party,

:41:38. > :41:42.and shortly thereafter, Prime Minister.

:41:43. > :41:46.And for Mrs May, it included one particularly long night.

:41:47. > :42:00.I hereby declare that May, Theresa Mary has been duly elected.

:42:01. > :42:03.I'd like to ask the successful candidate to come up

:42:04. > :42:11.My pitch is very simple, I'm Theresa May and I think I'm

:42:12. > :42:13.the best person to be Prime Minister of this country.

:42:14. > :42:19.You have a job but you don't always have job security.

:42:20. > :42:22.I have just chaired a meeting of the Cabinet, where we agreed

:42:23. > :42:28.that the government should call a general election.

:42:29. > :42:32.That the only way to guarantee certainty and stability

:42:33. > :42:34.for the years ahead is to hold this election.

:42:35. > :42:44.Jeremy Corbyn will find himself alone and naked in the negotiating

:42:45. > :42:56.I wanted to achieve a larger majority and I'm sorry.

:42:57. > :43:00.When future generations look back at this time,

:43:01. > :43:20.they will judge us not only by the decision that we made, but by

:43:21. > :43:21.Hallo, heavy rain continuing to slowly clear