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:00:07. > :00:09.To be deemed safe, cladding systems are meant to survive

:00:10. > :00:18.Today, we learned Grenfell's lasted just nine.

:00:19. > :00:20.82 other buildings use a design that's similar

:00:21. > :00:25.Also tonight, we're used to being on the wing

:00:26. > :00:28.to Europe in our millions, but when we leave the EU, will we be

:00:29. > :00:36.forced to go into reverse, or even be grounded?

:00:37. > :00:43.If we do not have a transitional arrangement and if we are not a

:00:44. > :00:44.member of the EU as part of that transitional arrangement, then we

:00:45. > :00:46.have chaos. And ahead of tomorrow's first-ever

:00:47. > :00:48.Relaxed Prom for people with learning difficulties

:00:49. > :00:50.and sensory impairments, MUSIC: Flight of the Bumblebee

:00:51. > :01:11.by Rimsky-Korsakov In the six weeks since

:01:12. > :01:17.the fire that turned Grenfell Tower into a tinderbox

:01:18. > :01:21.and killed at least 80 people and injured almost as many again,

:01:22. > :01:24.there have been a variety of tests on the insulation and cladding

:01:25. > :01:27.of other buildings. There have been evacuations

:01:28. > :01:30.from high-rises, and remedial work carried out in buildings

:01:31. > :01:33.all over the country. But today the government revealed

:01:34. > :01:37.that the fire test on exactly the combination used

:01:38. > :01:38.in Grenfell Tower Cladding meant to resist

:01:39. > :01:48.fire for 40 minutes, in the test, burned

:01:49. > :01:51.in just nine minutes. There are also 82

:01:52. > :02:03.buildings with cladding Here's our policy

:02:04. > :02:13.editor Chris Cook. Over the past weeks what the

:02:14. > :02:17.government has been doing is not testing cladding, but auditing

:02:18. > :02:20.cladding and when we hear about hundreds of buildings failing tests

:02:21. > :02:23.it means the government has ascertained they are buildings where

:02:24. > :02:28.they need to work out whether they are dangerous because the thing to

:02:29. > :02:32.know, you might have non-combustible material on the side of the building

:02:33. > :02:36.that it can be safely used in combination with the right materials

:02:37. > :02:41.and so the government is running six huge tests where it will mock-up

:02:42. > :02:49.designs with different combinations of cladding and it works out which

:02:50. > :02:53.are safe and we started today with a combination used at Grenfell.

:02:54. > :02:58.We thought we knew what happened at Grenfell. The importance of doing

:02:59. > :03:03.the test on Grenfell, which was not safe, we ascertained in laboratory

:03:04. > :03:09.conditions it did not work. It tells us 82 other buildings with similar

:03:10. > :03:17.designs are flawed. 37 of them privately owned. It tells us it is

:03:18. > :03:22.implausible that a developer could, following the letter of the law,

:03:23. > :03:24.could have got the stuff through under the building regulations. We

:03:25. > :03:26.made a film to help you understand more about the test.

:03:27. > :03:30.Tbe only way to test the fire safety of a cladding design properly

:03:31. > :03:34.is to rig up your design and then try to set fire to it.

:03:35. > :03:40.Last week, Newsnight was permitted to film preparations for such a test

:03:41. > :03:42.on cladding like that used at Grenfell Tower.

:03:43. > :03:47.So plastic foam insulation on the inside, aluminium panels

:03:48. > :03:51.We visited before the aluminium panels had been put up.

:03:52. > :03:55.So what's underneath those aluminium panels?

:03:56. > :03:57.Well, first of all, the stuff under the foil here,

:03:58. > :04:01.In this case, so-called PIR insulation.

:04:02. > :04:03.It's a plastic foam, it's the kind of stuff

:04:04. > :04:08.Now, importantly, this stuff here, this yellow stuff, that's

:04:09. > :04:13.It's supposed to stop the fire from going horizontally

:04:14. > :04:18.These black strips here, those are intumescent

:04:19. > :04:23.What happens with these is that if there is a fire

:04:24. > :04:26.in this bit of insulation, they will heat up, expand

:04:27. > :04:28.and they will stop the fire from going up the building.

:04:29. > :04:32.But the thing is, both the horizontal firebreak

:04:33. > :04:35.and the vertical firebreak rely on the aluminium cladding

:04:36. > :04:40.on the outside, because otherwise the fire can just go around them.

:04:41. > :04:43.This really is a system that's being tested, not just a group

:04:44. > :04:52.Well, we weren't allowed anywhere near and the government hasn't

:04:53. > :04:58.So here's a graph showing the temperature measured by one

:04:59. > :05:00.instrument in the cladding as the test wore on.

:05:01. > :05:02.At three minutes, the scientists noted...

:05:03. > :05:05.The colour of the panels has changed from white to dark grey.

:05:06. > :05:16.Sporadic flaming from the top of the rig.

:05:17. > :05:20.Flaming several metres beyond the top of the rig.

:05:21. > :05:24.To pass this test, the rig is supposed to last

:05:25. > :05:38.This result implies the design, not poor insulation or bad luck,

:05:39. > :05:40.This result implies the design, not poor installation or bad luck,

:05:41. > :05:44.These materials didn't meet the required standards

:05:45. > :05:47.How this design got signed off is a critical question

:05:48. > :05:50.and not just at Grenfell - also in the 82 buildings that have

:05:51. > :05:52.been told that this test means their cladding

:05:53. > :05:59.Within the past few minutes, President Trump has announced

:06:00. > :06:02.on Twitter that he has appointed a new White House chief of staff.

:06:03. > :06:07.He's the former secretary of homeland security, John F Kelly.

:06:08. > :06:11.It's not clear whether Mr Kelly's predecessor, Reince Preibus,

:06:12. > :06:13.It's not clear whether Mr Kelly's predecessor, Reince Priebus,

:06:14. > :06:24.This follows the apparent failure last night of Republican attempts

:06:25. > :06:32.Joining me to unpack all this is Politico's Daniel Lippman.

:06:33. > :06:39.Good evening, within the last few minutes, CNN reports that Reince

:06:40. > :06:44.Priebus resigned privately yesterday. What do you know about

:06:45. > :06:51.what has been happening? There are conflicting reports on that. Sources

:06:52. > :06:55.close to Reince Priebus said he resigned in the White House sources

:06:56. > :06:58.said he was fired today. He was seen on Air Force One travelling with the

:06:59. > :07:06.president today and we do not know what happened. The broader issue is

:07:07. > :07:12.that this underscores that the White House chaos in the west wing has

:07:13. > :07:18.continued. Reince Priebus, his leaving the White House is not going

:07:19. > :07:25.to stop that. He was not the biggest problem in the White House. Let's

:07:26. > :07:32.talk about Priebus. He was the Republicans' point man. An insider,

:07:33. > :07:36.Republican insider in this slightly strange west wing we have now and

:07:37. > :07:41.Donald Trump has edged him out. Was there any question it was to do with

:07:42. > :07:48.the failure to get the affordable care vote repeals last night, which

:07:49. > :07:53.Priebus was tasked with doing? Even before the health care failure last

:07:54. > :08:01.night, Reince Priebus was on thin ice, because the President's

:08:02. > :08:06.advisers, in his family, they were not happy with his performance.

:08:07. > :08:11.Reince Priebus has promised to be an establishment figure who could get

:08:12. > :08:15.Capitol Hill to follow what Trump wanted and even if the health care

:08:16. > :08:21.bill had passed, Reince Priebus would still probably be out of his

:08:22. > :08:25.job. I think Reince Priebus did not perform to heroin's expectations

:08:26. > :08:30.because it is hard to manage a White House like the one President Trump

:08:31. > :08:35.has. We have a situation where it might look like Steve Bannon has won

:08:36. > :08:42.but Anthony Scaramucci is coruscating about Steve Bannon, who

:08:43. > :08:45.according to the New Yorker had an extraordinary conversation with

:08:46. > :08:54.expletives and denigrating things to say about Priebus. Reince Priebus

:08:55. > :09:01.never fully meshed with Trump and Scaramucci is kind of a mini Trump.

:09:02. > :09:06.And is... He has been told by people close to him to quiet down his

:09:07. > :09:10.media, because generally as communications director for the

:09:11. > :09:17.White House, you are not supposed to publicly trash fellow advisers and

:09:18. > :09:22.colleagues at work. Scaramucci was the whole story this week and Trump

:09:23. > :09:28.does not like being supplanted as the number one media celebrity in

:09:29. > :09:33.politics in DC. I think Steve Bannon is safer the White House, he will

:09:34. > :09:36.not get fired or resign because he has a closer relationship with the

:09:37. > :09:38.president the Reince Priebus ever had. Thanks.

:09:39. > :09:41.Since we joined the EU, we have enjoyed pretty much unfettered air

:09:42. > :09:43.travel to European Union destinations - give or take

:09:44. > :09:47.In fact, the Office of National Statistics reported that,

:09:48. > :09:51.last year, there was a record total of 14.7 million visits to Spain

:09:52. > :09:54.alone by UK residents - the vast majority of

:09:55. > :09:57.But when we exit the EU, if we leave the European

:09:58. > :10:01.industry and safety bodies - as seems to be the plan -

:10:02. > :10:13.Here's our business editor Helen Thomas.

:10:14. > :10:15.For decades, we've been taking flight to an ever-increasing

:10:16. > :10:19.But as we migrate towards Brexit, there are warnings

:10:20. > :10:32.If we're not careful, could we find ourselves, well, flightless?

:10:33. > :10:34.Ladies and gentlemen, good afternoon, it's a great

:10:35. > :10:41.The boss of Ryanair has been vocal about the risks to our getaways.

:10:42. > :10:43.There is a real prospect and we need to deal with this,

:10:44. > :10:49.that there is going to be no flights between the UK and Europe

:10:50. > :10:52.for a period of weeks, months, beyond March 2019.

:10:53. > :10:55.He wants the UK to stay in Europe's existing open skies agreement that

:10:56. > :11:03.He says we're running out of time to negotiate an alternative.

:11:04. > :11:06.The industry that makes the planes has its worries, too.

:11:07. > :11:14.Aeromet manufactures 45,000 fuel connectors for Airbus each year.

:11:15. > :11:17.From here in Rochester they go to Wales to become part of wings,

:11:18. > :11:21.then on to Toulouse, where the planes are assembled.

:11:22. > :11:25.The aerospace industry has some familiar concerns.

:11:26. > :11:28.It wants hassle-free trade with no tariffs or delays for complex

:11:29. > :11:38.But, there is a more fundamental problem.

:11:39. > :11:42.The safety regime that underpins everything

:11:43. > :11:44.from parts to planes, to pilots to maintenance,

:11:45. > :11:52.And that has the potential to ground the industry.

:11:53. > :11:58.That safety regime is the work of the European Aviation Safety Agency.

:11:59. > :12:00.The boss of the UK's aerospace industry body says it's

:12:01. > :12:07.We are very clear that we wish to remain a member of

:12:08. > :12:13.the European Aviation Safety Agency and we don't believe

:12:14. > :12:17.that there is a viable alternative that can be up and running

:12:18. > :12:28.ADS reckons it could take five to ten years and 300 extra

:12:29. > :12:30.staff to equip the UK's Civil Aviation Authority

:12:31. > :12:35.And we may still need a transition period where we stay very

:12:36. > :12:42.When we cease to be an EU member, we need to have in place a whole

:12:43. > :12:47.So, for us, the transition period is important and it's important that

:12:48. > :12:54.during that period we remain an EU member.

:12:55. > :12:57.Really, it's about providing our international colleagues,

:12:58. > :13:01.particularly the US, with confidence that

:13:02. > :13:03.the new regulatory regime that we are going to operate

:13:04. > :13:05.is capable of meeting the high safety and security

:13:06. > :13:12.The challenge is we don't know what that is going to look like.

:13:13. > :13:17.So how complicated is it to secure our freedom to fly?

:13:18. > :13:19.Countries like Norway or Switzerland are part

:13:20. > :13:24.of the European safety agency, but outside the EU.

:13:25. > :13:30.But they also have bilateral agreements with places like the US.

:13:31. > :13:33.Without a safety regime that is recognised by the rest

:13:34. > :13:39.of the world, the UK could find itself left on the ground.

:13:40. > :13:41.This isn't just general griping about the cost

:13:42. > :13:46.and disruption of Brexit, it's a very specific problem.

:13:47. > :13:50.And it's not one that can be sold just by the UK and Europe.

:13:51. > :13:54.It requires input from regulators around the world.

:13:55. > :13:58.By some estimates, that work could take 18 months to make sure

:13:59. > :14:03.that we can keep flying after departure from the EU.

:14:04. > :14:07.And that's even if we stay part of the European safety body.

:14:08. > :14:19.The clock is most definitely ticking.

:14:20. > :14:22.The head of America's Federal aviation administration said in June

:14:23. > :14:24.that discussions with the UK Government had started,

:14:25. > :14:26.but he added they were complicated and time-consuming

:14:27. > :14:38.It is important to keep these time constraints in mind and to not get

:14:39. > :14:40.sidetracked into an uncomfortable situation in which a missed

:14:41. > :14:41.deadline results in an interruption of service.

:14:42. > :14:45.Sticking with the European regulator should make these

:14:46. > :14:56.but staying a member of the European safety agency

:14:57. > :15:01.The main issue is the financial contribution that would

:15:02. > :15:04.still need to be made within and into a European establishment.

:15:05. > :15:06.It is also the issue of oversight of the outer

:15:07. > :15:09.framework and the rules, which currently sits with other

:15:10. > :15:10.European institutions and predominantly the ECJ.

:15:11. > :15:25.This is where aerospace's problems start to sound familiar again.

:15:26. > :15:31.with European Court of Justice oversight,

:15:32. > :15:33.a respected European rule book that actually UK

:15:34. > :15:35.expertise has played a substantial part in devising,

:15:36. > :15:38.and a deadline to figure out what might or could take its place.

:15:39. > :15:41.If we don't have a transitional arrangement, and if we aren't

:15:42. > :15:44.a member of the EU as part of that transitional arrangement,

:15:45. > :15:46.then we have chaos, because we don't have a system to ensure

:15:47. > :15:49.that our products are safe and secure to fly and a regime

:15:50. > :15:51.that is acknowledged around the world.

:15:52. > :16:12.I'm joined now by MEP Jacqueline Foster and by

:16:13. > :16:32.Good evening to the both of you. Jacqueline, how can we be part of

:16:33. > :16:35.the open skies regime after we exit the EU, when it is overseen by the

:16:36. > :16:38.European Court of Justice and Theresa May has made it clear she

:16:39. > :16:46.did not want to be incumbent by any ruling from the ECJ. Two separate

:16:47. > :16:51.issues here, open skies are service agreements, what the piece was about

:16:52. > :16:55.was twofold, it was about the role of the European aviation safety

:16:56. > :16:59.agency, and how we comply with the rules that are laid down there, and

:17:00. > :17:04.when we certify the goods from the aerospace manufacturers. And open

:17:05. > :17:09.skies, where we look at the airlines, is about the arrangements

:17:10. > :17:13.we will have with countries, dearly for traffic flight, to fly from the

:17:14. > :17:18.UK, both into Europe and obviously to other countries around the world.

:17:19. > :17:25.Yes, two separate things, but open skies, open skies are governed by

:17:26. > :17:29.the European Court of Justice, and so therefore, we are in a situation

:17:30. > :17:33.where Theresa May says we will not be involved in it, you have two of

:17:34. > :17:40.I'd buy that to be part of the open skies policy. No, I think you are

:17:41. > :17:45.wrong here, we are talking about service agreements, and the European

:17:46. > :17:48.Court of Justice, the reference to the European Court of Justice, is

:17:49. > :17:52.when we are talking about compliance to the European aviation safety

:17:53. > :17:55.agency, which does not deal with air service agreements and open skies.

:17:56. > :18:02.These are two different things. They are separate bodies. The European

:18:03. > :18:05.aviation safety agency is one thing, but the open skies policy, your

:18:06. > :18:11.understanding is that it comes under the ECJ. I take everything back to

:18:12. > :18:16.the customer, the customer need safe aviation and the customer needs

:18:17. > :18:20.competitive aviation, and dynamic growth of networks in Europe, which

:18:21. > :18:23.is what 40 years of being involved in Europe has done, brought together

:18:24. > :18:31.those two elements so that they are not separate. Will be part of open

:18:32. > :18:35.skies, when we exit the EU? If there was a plan, I would be delighted to

:18:36. > :18:38.be involved in it, post-election it seems the Department for Transport

:18:39. > :18:43.has largely closed down communication with organisations

:18:44. > :18:48.like ERAA in order to have discussions about where you are

:18:49. > :18:54.going, the only doors for discussion open appear to be doors in Brussels.

:18:55. > :18:58.We will not automatically be a member of the safety agency, after

:18:59. > :19:02.EU exit, is that correct? That is my understanding and that is the

:19:03. > :19:06.understanding of the airlines as well. But it is inevitably's

:19:07. > :19:12.interests. I have got to challenge him on the is making. It is in

:19:13. > :19:15.everybody's interests to carry on as tariff free as possible, lots of

:19:16. > :19:20.other European countries want it to happen, it is not a case of what

:19:21. > :19:24.them wanting to lock us out. We have had 260 million journeys last year,

:19:25. > :19:29.which depend upon this freedom and liberalisation. At the same time,

:19:30. > :19:34.you have got to recognise that the number of seats that the UK has in

:19:35. > :19:38.Europe are around 12% of the total. There is an 88% that can get on with

:19:39. > :19:46.its business. Can I put it to you, Jacqueline Foster, we are not

:19:47. > :19:51.automatically going to be part of the European safety agency. I

:19:52. > :19:56.disagree, we will remain part of it, because we are not looking to form

:19:57. > :20:00.some other agency, there are other countries who are part of that

:20:01. > :20:07.agency, compliant with it, not members of the European Union...

:20:08. > :20:10.Norway... The fact that we manufactured goods here, the wings

:20:11. > :20:13.for a bus, Rolls-Royce engines, there will not be a tariff issue

:20:14. > :20:17.either, and those goods will continue to be certified in the

:20:18. > :20:24.European aviation safety agency. When we come to the open skies, I am

:20:25. > :20:28.afraid your other guest is extremely negative, what we need to do, what

:20:29. > :20:34.we clearly need to do, because we will not be part of the EU in terms

:20:35. > :20:38.of open skies, we need to have an arrangement, UK EU, then we will

:20:39. > :20:43.revert back to bilaterals when we are looking at the United States, or

:20:44. > :20:48.being part of an open skies agreement. We have had bilateral and

:20:49. > :20:52.multilateral agreements since 1944, under the Chicago Convention, and

:20:53. > :20:58.therefore, with political will, and there is a lot of discussion, I have

:20:59. > :21:01.to take on board and challenge the comments your guest has made,

:21:02. > :21:06.discussions have been taking place, with people like me, I am a

:21:07. > :21:13.transport spokesman, I specialise in this area, the commission want a

:21:14. > :21:18.transition, the ministers want a smooth transition, politicians want

:21:19. > :21:24.a smooth transition. My guest in the studio here in London... Speed is of

:21:25. > :21:31.the essence. The airline vote with their feet, last week, easyJet has

:21:32. > :21:35.registered, taken of the UK AOC 100 plus aeroplanes, and put them in and

:21:36. > :21:45.AOC in Austria, they are not waiting for government decisions, they are

:21:46. > :21:51.deciding to move business to Europe. -- an AOC.

:21:52. > :21:52.All week there have been celebrations and commemorations

:21:53. > :21:55.of the moment 50 years ago when the Sexual Offences Act

:21:56. > :21:57.decriminalised homosexual acts in private between consenting

:21:58. > :22:01.What it wasn't was full emancipation, or a magic bullet

:22:02. > :22:02.that changed attitudes, prejudices and created

:22:03. > :22:06.That has been a slower and, for many, a painful journey.

:22:07. > :22:08.Now, LGBT people are more comfortable in their skin.

:22:09. > :22:11.But to say that homophobia doesn't exist, or that there is

:22:12. > :22:13.discrimination below the surface would be wrong.

:22:14. > :22:18.Matthew Todd, the former editor of Attitude magazine, brought

:22:19. > :22:20.out his book Straight Jacket: How to be Gay and Happy

:22:21. > :22:24.This is his film for Newsnight about the mental health issues

:22:25. > :22:38.he says are still crippling too many LGBT people.

:22:39. > :22:45.VOICEOVER: Decriminalisation, adoption rights, equal marriage,

:22:46. > :22:54.Britain's LGBT community has come a long way over the past 50 years.

:22:55. > :22:59.But, despite this, LGBT people still suffer with higher levels of

:23:00. > :23:03.depression, anxiety, addictions and suicide, I know, because I am one of

:23:04. > :23:08.them. Soho used to be a place I would come to to get out of my head.

:23:09. > :23:14.Today, in recovery, I am more likely to be here, sipping a cup of herbal

:23:15. > :23:20.tea. Why is it that so many LGBT people suffer with mental health

:23:21. > :23:26.problems? In my experience, these problems are never far away. Rob God

:23:27. > :23:32.was a man I worked with briefly at Attitude magazine, in 2013, aged 34,

:23:33. > :23:42.he took his own life. -- Rob Goddard. He was massively

:23:43. > :23:48.gregarious, he was a central part of every social situation. He had

:23:49. > :23:57.thousands of friends. With those real highs, came the very big lows,

:23:58. > :24:01.as well. He partied quite heavily, he did recreational drugs, he found

:24:02. > :24:06.a cert in utopia within that environment, he could just be

:24:07. > :24:09.himself and nobody would care. -- certain utopia. You said he was not

:24:10. > :24:16.happy being gay. He was fiercely proud of being gay, he never hid it,

:24:17. > :24:21.at all. Not from anyone, did he. But I think that had a negative effect

:24:22. > :24:25.on him. I remember a time when he was sat at the back of a bus, early

:24:26. > :24:29.hours of the morning, with his boyfriend at the time, his head on

:24:30. > :24:34.his shoulder, back from a club, something like that, on the bus, on

:24:35. > :24:39.the way home, laid his head against his shoulder, and he was beaten up

:24:40. > :24:45.for it. He asked the driver of the bus to step in, the driver of the

:24:46. > :24:50.bus was very negative towards him. And kind of... Essentially said, if

:24:51. > :24:54.you put yourself into this position, by being outwardly gay, then you

:24:55. > :25:00.deserve what you get. Just months before he died, Rob had a psychotic

:25:01. > :25:08.episode after ingesting window cleaner and other substances, he

:25:09. > :25:11.ended up breaking his own leg. He was smashing his leg against the

:25:12. > :25:19.wall, there was blood everywhere, he was in hospital for a while, I did

:25:20. > :25:25.go to see him. And he was so sorry at what had happened. He said it was

:25:26. > :25:32.the drugs, he said that it was like fighting an army. In the bedroom.

:25:33. > :25:38.Powerful drugs like crystal meth and JBL are increasingly popular in the

:25:39. > :25:42.gay male community. The only LGBT specific drugs and alcohol service,

:25:43. > :25:46.capital at antidote, has seen a big rise in people seeking help. -- GBL.

:25:47. > :25:52.Some people would say, they are using drugs, no big deal, not the

:25:53. > :25:58.end of the world, but it can destroy lives. Lost relationships, lost

:25:59. > :26:02.homes, lost jobs, not those people, it has a devastating effect on

:26:03. > :26:05.people's mental health, I think it is important we start looking at

:26:06. > :26:14.some of those underlying issues that, you know, that people are

:26:15. > :26:21.using drugs. Low self-esteem, the feeling of not being good enough.

:26:22. > :26:26.The loneliness and isolation, as well, that some people can feel.

:26:27. > :26:30.Young people still struggle, staggeringly, Stonewall recently

:26:31. > :26:35.found that nearly half of young trans people have attempted suicide.

:26:36. > :26:40.Amy, a 19-year-old from Coventry, was bullied to the point where she

:26:41. > :26:44.considered taking her own life. Started off with low-level verbal

:26:45. > :26:50.comments, and then the physical bullying. I was being pushed around,

:26:51. > :26:56.I was having things thrown at me, because of my gender identity.

:26:57. > :27:03.Things thrown at me, books, pens, rulers... This behaviour and

:27:04. > :27:10.bullying was affecting me, and it was not being tackled by the

:27:11. > :27:14.teacher, and that legitimised it, it gave them the power to do the

:27:15. > :27:19.actions, we will not get in trouble for it. Legitimised it in my head.

:27:20. > :27:25.If this is happening and it is not being tackled, then maybe I am not

:27:26. > :27:33.worth this, maybe I am a lover person. If I could just end it, I

:27:34. > :27:36.thought, then I would not be able -- would not have to put up with the

:27:37. > :27:41.abuse and the bullying, it would stop full and if that was the only

:27:42. > :27:47.thing that I could do to get it to stop, that was the only thing left,

:27:48. > :27:51.I felt like I could control it. Good evening, and welcome. Talking is

:27:52. > :27:54.something we have not done enough of, a change of scene is a monthly

:27:55. > :27:58.discussion group for gay and bisexual men to share life

:27:59. > :28:03.experiences, often for the first time. You need to be out and proud

:28:04. > :28:08.and happy, look how fabulous we are, we go out and we have fun. -- A

:28:09. > :28:16.Change of Scene. There is an image, a general image, within the gay

:28:17. > :28:23.community, that we feel we have two project. You may ridicule gay men,

:28:24. > :28:27.but you cannot would it kill my lifestyle... I feel I need to show

:28:28. > :28:36.something that I am OK to be me, but of course, for me to actually make

:28:37. > :28:39.so much effort to do that, deep down, of course, there is

:28:40. > :28:44.insecurity. I don't feel like we have moved beyond the position of

:28:45. > :28:48.defending our right to exist yet, my experience as a gay man is very much

:28:49. > :28:55.about proving my right to be who I am, now, still, before having the

:28:56. > :28:59.luxury to reflect on how I can be a healthy, joyous version of that.

:29:00. > :29:04.APPLAUSE This is not just a gay issue, when

:29:05. > :29:08.society fails to support LGBT children, whole families are

:29:09. > :29:09.devastated, it is time that we all woke up to this mental health

:29:10. > :29:15.crisis. We're in the midst of Prom season

:29:16. > :29:20.and tomorrow there's a new treat, It's a concert created for children

:29:21. > :29:24.and adults with autism and learning disabilities,

:29:25. > :29:27.and others with sensory impairments. Eva Stewart, piccolo player

:29:28. > :29:29.for the BBC National Orchestra of Wales, is here to perform

:29:30. > :29:52.the Flight of the Bumblebee. But she's saving her costume

:29:53. > :29:54.for tomorrow(!) MUSIC: Flight of the Bumblebee

:29:55. > :31:00.by Rimsky-Korsakov Hello, again, really is going to be

:31:01. > :31:03.a mixed bag this weekend, overnight rain in England and Wales moving

:31:04. > :31:06.through the English Channel by the morning, starting to push north

:31:07. > :31:09.again, into southern parts of England and Wales, especially

:31:10. > :31:11.through the afternoon, sleight of dry weather with sunshine and one or

:31:12. > :31:12.two