:00:08. > :00:10.A moments silence across Spain as the country grapples
:00:11. > :00:16.with the latest European terror attack.
:00:17. > :00:21.But just how serious is the Islamist terror threat in Catalonia?
:00:22. > :00:24.The disappearing act continues as Steve Bannon becomes the latest
:00:25. > :00:27.Trump advisor to be cast out of the White House.
:00:28. > :00:32.This picture shows his top team in January.
:00:33. > :00:36.Only Trump and his Vice President remain...
:00:37. > :00:38.But how much will his departure change the Presidency's
:00:39. > :00:48.It will be nice to see you on Newsnight... To see you on
:00:49. > :00:51.Newsnight, nice! There is a first! Mr Light Entertainment, TV legend
:00:52. > :01:00.Sir Bruce Forsyth, has died. With depressing familiarity,
:01:01. > :01:20.a minute's silence was held today to remember terror victims
:01:21. > :01:23.in a major European city. The public and politicians came
:01:24. > :01:25.together in Barcelona in scenes which have echoed London,
:01:26. > :01:27.Manchester and Paris As they stood still,
:01:28. > :01:30.police action to tackle Police killed five people
:01:31. > :01:35.in Cambrils, south-west of Barcelona, after another car
:01:36. > :01:40.attack killed one and injured six. But the driver of yesterday's van
:01:41. > :01:46.is still on the run. What has surprised many is the scale
:01:47. > :01:49.of the Islamist terror Our reporter Elaine Dunkley
:01:50. > :02:02.joins us from Barcelona. Yes, this is Las Ramblas, a street
:02:03. > :02:05.hugely popular with shoppers and tourists. When FC Barcelona win a
:02:06. > :02:09.major title, this is where they come to celebrate with the cup. But
:02:10. > :02:15.things can be more different today. Thousands of been here to mourn and
:02:16. > :02:19.pay respects. 24 hours ago, 13 were killed and more than 100 injured
:02:20. > :02:26.when a van ploughed into pedestrians. Tonight, police are
:02:27. > :02:30.still searching for the driver of the vehicle, 18-year-old Musa bowl,
:02:31. > :02:34.from the capital city of guerrilla. Police told us that they managed to
:02:35. > :02:39.stop a bigger terrorist attack when they managed to shoot five
:02:40. > :02:44.terrorists in Cambrils -- Moussa Oukabir. They also used a vehicle to
:02:45. > :02:49.kill and injure people. The search for answers continues on
:02:50. > :02:59.radicalisation and extremism here in Spain.
:03:00. > :03:07.Ware Barcelona, a city known for tourism, and now terrorism. Like
:03:08. > :03:15.other major cities in Europe, it knows the feeling of loss. And,
:03:16. > :03:20.defiance in the face of a new threat. This is the first time that
:03:21. > :03:26.Spain has come under a major terror attack in more than a decade. In
:03:27. > :03:30.2004 there were the Madrid train bombings which killed 191 and left
:03:31. > :03:34.more than 2000 injured. It was the worst terror incident in modern
:03:35. > :03:39.European history but authorities learned by beefing up security with
:03:40. > :03:43.successful operations and raids and arrests, and try to integrate
:03:44. > :03:49.different communities. The Spanish style was sophisticated, but the
:03:50. > :03:54.attacks have become less so. A van used as a weapon with devastating
:03:55. > :03:58.effect. Leaving 13 dead and more than 100 injured on Las Ramblas.
:03:59. > :04:03.Police here say that it terror network of at least eight people
:04:04. > :04:09.were behind this attack and 170 miles away on the coastal resort of
:04:10. > :04:16.Cambrils. So, why here? Why now? Was it just a matter of time? Catalonia
:04:17. > :04:25.is self as a large Muslim community, most of Brock background. In one of
:04:26. > :04:33.the wealthiest regions of Spain, it is just a factor of numbers. The
:04:34. > :04:35.presence of this community, it has different wings, some are peaceful
:04:36. > :04:43.and quiet -ist, some are quite militant. Obviously you get fringes
:04:44. > :04:48.which go further and a red radicalisation trajectory, to
:04:49. > :04:52.militancy. Often radicalisation happens because of who you know and
:04:53. > :04:59.when you get a bad apple you get other people around that. Last year,
:05:00. > :05:03.Barcelona's status of a major centre of Islamic radicalism was
:05:04. > :05:09.highlighted by a Spanish security think tank. They found that of all
:05:10. > :05:13.of those detained between 2013 and 2016 for offences relating to
:05:14. > :05:16.Islamic State activity, more than one quarter were residents of
:05:17. > :05:23.Barcelona. About one third were based in the North African and the
:05:24. > :05:27.south of Spain, and 15% were from Madrid. There is a problem, but
:05:28. > :05:30.worshippers at this mosque around the corner from Las Ramblas say that
:05:31. > :05:37.their faith has been hijacked. He tells me that he witnessed what
:05:38. > :06:16.happened yesterday. The bomb exploded in the underground
:06:17. > :06:23.car park of a crowded supermarket... The attack yesterday also brought
:06:24. > :06:28.back memories of a bloody campaign by the group ETA which lasted for 40
:06:29. > :06:29.years, fighting for the independence of the Basque region of Spain. It
:06:30. > :07:10.left 400 people dead. Getting used to terrorism once again
:07:11. > :07:13.is a grim thought, but Barcelona's motto is "Daesh, we are not afraid".
:07:14. > :07:15.Joining me know from Barcelona is Alfred Bosch.
:07:16. > :07:21.He's leader of the Republican left party on Barcelona City Council.
:07:22. > :07:30.Alfred Bosch, thank you for coming on. We heard in that report about
:07:31. > :07:32.28% of those detained have come from Barcelona, for potential terror
:07:33. > :07:38.offences. It appears there is a problem in your city. If so, why? I
:07:39. > :07:44.am not sure I heard your question well. Let me try again. The report
:07:45. > :07:50.says around 28% of people detained in Spain on possible terror offences
:07:51. > :07:57.are from your city of Barcelona. Is it fair to say that you have a
:07:58. > :08:04.problem there? Well, it is fair, that we have the same problem that
:08:05. > :08:11.New York has, Paris has, London has, Munich, Berlin, Madrid, Nice, etc.
:08:12. > :08:17.Obviously, this is a cosmopolitan city, an open and free city. Yes, we
:08:18. > :08:25.are targets, as you are. So I think what comes from that, and what we
:08:26. > :08:30.must do, is get together internationally to fight this
:08:31. > :08:33.terror. It hits us all. We are all targets, also here in Barcelona we
:08:34. > :08:38.are very much aware of that and we've got to do something together.
:08:39. > :08:42.So how do you balance? Your city has a global and enviable reputation as
:08:43. > :08:47.being a great place to go and a great place to party. And you have
:08:48. > :08:51.the freedoms there. Now you have the threat as well and you have to
:08:52. > :08:57.protect your own citizens and tourists who come to your great
:08:58. > :09:04.city. How do you balance the two? First of all, not giving up. We must
:09:05. > :09:09.not give up, we must not surrender. As I said, this is a free and open
:09:10. > :09:15.city. We love democracy. We love to have fun. We love hard work. Right
:09:16. > :09:20.behind me, you have Las Ramblas, where everything happened. This war,
:09:21. > :09:23.this boulevard, crosses the old city of Barcelona. This is a stream of
:09:24. > :09:30.light and life. The first thing we have to do is say no, we are not
:09:31. > :09:34.afraid. That is what thousands of people are spontaneously saying. We
:09:35. > :09:38.had to say firstly, no, we will not give up. We will not bow to terror
:09:39. > :09:43.and two killers. That is what they are. They are killers. That is the
:09:44. > :09:48.first thing we have said, we have said it all day. It is an important
:09:49. > :09:52.message. It is important that you are informing and listening to us,
:09:53. > :09:58.from the UK and all over the world. Knowing that this is also a
:09:59. > :10:01.cosmopolitan city. Las Ramblas here is a cosmopolitan war, promenade.
:10:02. > :10:07.That is what they are going for through the whole world. The target
:10:08. > :10:12.is cosmopolitan. We had to rise and we are doing this already, to say no
:10:13. > :10:17.to that. It is the right thing to do but, Mr Bosch, if you look elsewhere
:10:18. > :10:22.in the world, countries like Tunisia and Egypt, their tourist industry
:10:23. > :10:26.has been badly affected. In London we have a target area twinned with
:10:27. > :10:31.you in Barcelona which was the sight of a London attack, and many of
:10:32. > :10:37.their stores, the trade there has gone down. How do you combat that in
:10:38. > :10:40.Barcelona? We encourage all of you. That is a direct message to the
:10:41. > :10:47.people listening and watching us right now. Please, help us. Please
:10:48. > :10:52.help us. The best way you can help us is by coming here. Supporting us.
:10:53. > :10:55.If you have plans to come to Barcelona, please come here. We are
:10:56. > :11:00.not going to surrender and you had to help us in that regard. You are
:11:01. > :11:05.already doing it. I must acknowledge that and thank you for that. Of
:11:06. > :11:09.course. You talk about help. There is the report the Spanish government
:11:10. > :11:21.is suggesting that authorities in Catalan are not helping as much as
:11:22. > :11:23.they might with the Spanish government. What can you tell us
:11:24. > :11:26.about that and how accurate is that? No, please. There's been very
:11:27. > :11:28.serious about this. We are talking about people being killed. We are
:11:29. > :11:34.talking about kids. I was in Las Ramblas, there was a small girl
:11:35. > :11:38.saying... Talking to her mum saying they are leaving teddy bears there
:11:39. > :11:43.because children got killed here. Please, let's respect those fallen.
:11:44. > :11:49.I'd totally am... I totally am respecting. The police have been
:11:50. > :11:56.excellent. The cooperation is as good as it can be. Please let me say
:11:57. > :11:59.this, because it is true. The police have been excellent, emergency
:12:00. > :12:03.services have been excellent. They have avoided greater harm. You know
:12:04. > :12:08.it perfectly well. They were planning explosives here. Hundreds
:12:09. > :12:12.of people, hundreds of casualties, they could have been killed here.
:12:13. > :12:17.They have done a very good job. They have avoided other attacks in the
:12:18. > :12:21.past and they will in future. Now, what happened? The same that
:12:22. > :12:27.happened in New York, Paris and London. You all know it and have
:12:28. > :12:32.experienced it. Let's be reasonable and thank the police for all they
:12:33. > :12:37.are doing. Lastly, how long before Barcelona is restored to its tubular
:12:38. > :12:47.and, joyful, colourful self, how we remember it and how we know it? --
:12:48. > :12:52.GPL and. This morning, I was walking down Las Ramblas, I live a couple of
:12:53. > :12:59.blocks from this central nerve. The emotional nerve of the city, as you
:13:00. > :13:03.know. I saw people recovering, and people rising already. Saying no, we
:13:04. > :13:08.will not accept this. We will go back to normal. We will be our
:13:09. > :13:13.themselves, our own radiant, happy, hard-working and joyful selves. I
:13:14. > :13:17.think that is happening already. With the help of all of the
:13:18. > :13:21.visitors, I must say, who are in the city because, as you know, many of
:13:22. > :13:26.the victims were international visitors. We have to say that also.
:13:27. > :13:31.This was an attack against humanity as a whole. Good luck with
:13:32. > :13:35.everything you are trying to achieve in Barcelona. Mr Bosch, good luck
:13:36. > :13:38.and best of fortune with everything. We move on.
:13:39. > :13:41.Donald Trump has lost his chief strategist Steve Bannon -
:13:42. > :13:43.fired, we understand, in what can be seen as a win
:13:44. > :13:47.Bannon played a prominent role in the president's "America First"
:13:48. > :13:50.election campaign message - and has been accused of harbouring
:13:51. > :13:52.anti-Semitic and white nationalist sentiments.
:13:53. > :13:54.With the mounting controversy over the death of an anti racist
:13:55. > :13:56.protestor in Charlottesville, Bannon's role was
:13:57. > :14:00.But, it was after an interview this week where he undermined
:14:01. > :14:03.the president on North Korea that it looks like his fate was sealed.
:14:04. > :14:05.So, what does this mean for the direction of travel
:14:06. > :14:19.David Willis joins me now. Why now? What is behind the timing? It's an
:14:20. > :14:23.interesting question. Steve Bannon was, of course, one of the
:14:24. > :14:29.architects of Donald Trump's victory in the presidential election last
:14:30. > :14:33.year. He was behind the right wing website Breitbart News. In recent
:14:34. > :14:40.weeks, he has been accused of leaking to the press, he gave a
:14:41. > :14:45.controversial interview to a liberal magazine here. A few days ago. As
:14:46. > :14:49.you mentioned in your introduction, he appeared to contradict the Trump
:14:50. > :14:55.administration's position on North Korea. He is known to have clashed
:14:56. > :14:58.with others close to President Trump. Including his son-in-law,
:14:59. > :15:07.Jared Kushner. And his daughter, Ivanka Trump. People Steve Brannon
:15:08. > :15:12.brands" the globalists" in the White House, the new chief of staff, John
:15:13. > :15:16.Kelly, has basically been looking to install a sense of discipline into
:15:17. > :15:27.the White House. He has apparently had Steve Bannon under review for
:15:28. > :15:30.several weeks. Today, a very brief statement was issued, saying that
:15:31. > :15:35.Steve Bannon would be leaving as of today. As for what he does now,
:15:36. > :15:39.there are suggestions that Steve Bannon may go back to Breitbart News
:15:40. > :15:43.and continues to be highly influential on the right wing of
:15:44. > :15:48.American politics. That was going to be my next question. If he does do
:15:49. > :15:53.that, as is being mooted, what may the effect be on Trump and his
:15:54. > :15:57.administration? Well, it depends whether he offers support from his
:15:58. > :16:04.new perch, or criticism. Breitbart News has been particularly critical
:16:05. > :16:08.of some in the administration. HR McMaster, the National Security
:16:09. > :16:14.Advisor among them, and Steve Bannon has been pretty open in his
:16:15. > :16:18.opposition to those sorts of people. But, you know what? We have seen a
:16:19. > :16:22.lot of people leaving this administration in recent weeks.
:16:23. > :16:27.Among them, the press spokesman and director of Communications, the
:16:28. > :16:31.White House chief of staff. Now, the chief strategist, Steve Bannon, is
:16:32. > :16:36.out the door. Some may speculate that perhaps the era of chaos is
:16:37. > :16:40.coming to an end, but Donald Trump remains his own man. As we have seen
:16:41. > :16:42.this week in his comments about events last week in Charlottesville,
:16:43. > :16:51.Virginia. There is enough to keep you busy in
:16:52. > :16:54.this story for weeks and months ahead. Thank you.
:16:55. > :16:56.In many ways the life of Sir Bruce Forsyth
:16:57. > :16:58.is the life of TV light entertainment in Britain.
:16:59. > :17:00.Actor, singer, dancer, musician and of course TV
:17:01. > :17:04.The list of his talents was matched by the ease
:17:05. > :17:08.His death at the age of 89 arguably brings to a close the golden
:17:09. > :17:16.# Nursie, Nursie, I'm getting worsie
:17:17. > :17:27.I used to go and see the Fred Astaire films,
:17:28. > :17:29.or any film that had dancing in it.
:17:30. > :17:35.And I'd be intrigued by the dancing, and I'd come home and
:17:36. > :17:45.dance away for sometimes hours, in a room all by myself.
:17:46. > :17:47.I wanted to, if I didn't make it, get out.
:17:48. > :17:50.Maybe go more into the musical side of the
:17:51. > :17:53.Then I got into the Palladium, which turned everything around.
:17:54. > :17:59.The first thing about audience participation is you've got
:18:00. > :18:07.I see your jokes are a bit like that, aren't they?
:18:08. > :18:11.I've loved it because you never know what's going
:18:12. > :18:18.If somebody says something, I like to come back at them.
:18:19. > :18:24.Or if they do something, I love to pounce on it.
:18:25. > :18:27.After I did that radio show with you, I did Have
:18:28. > :18:32.That was the big turning point, wasn't it?
:18:33. > :18:34.Here you go, here's Bruce, 74, 75 years old,
:18:35. > :18:37.invited to go on Have I Got News For You?
:18:38. > :18:39.You blew away all of the other guest hosts.
:18:40. > :18:41.Tony Blair insists that weapons of mass destruction will
:18:42. > :18:45.Well, it would be nice to see them, to see them...
:18:46. > :18:51.The other thing you are doing is Come Dancing is coming back?
:18:52. > :18:53.It's going to be Pro Am Come Dancing!
:18:54. > :19:00.Professional dancing with celebrities learning how to dance.
:19:01. > :19:03.My headmaster said, I can't give you a very good
:19:04. > :19:05.report because you've had so little schooling.
:19:06. > :19:10.I said don't worry, sir, I'm going into a
:19:11. > :19:12.business where they go by what they see you can do.
:19:13. > :19:35.We're joined by Arlene Phillips who - of course -
:19:36. > :19:37.worked with Sir Bruce on Strictly Come Dancing
:19:38. > :19:43.and by his friend the actor Christopher Biggins.
:19:44. > :19:51.Can I start with you, Arlene, people talked about a triple threat,
:19:52. > :19:54.somebody who can sing, dance, he could do everything, sing, dance,
:19:55. > :19:59.tell jokes, present, how did he do it? I think he is a consummate
:20:00. > :20:07.showman. He started when he was 11 years old, but before that he was
:20:08. > :20:14.doing his thing, tapping, and Bruce never stopped working. Not just in
:20:15. > :20:19.terms of training but in rehearsal, going over things. So he worked hard
:20:20. > :20:25.at being Mr showbiz. He worked hard at staying fit, didn't he? Very
:20:26. > :20:31.hard. I saw some of the tapes of his dancing, that was phenomenal. Bruce,
:20:32. > :20:37.to retain his balance, used to spin 80 times a day and to the left. 80
:20:38. > :20:41.times a day? Absolutely, he was warming up, he would constantly work
:20:42. > :20:46.his body, and sometimes even on Strictly just before he had to go on
:20:47. > :20:50.you would see him almost revving himself up like a car getting
:20:51. > :20:52.himself ready to go out there and entertain. Christopher Plummer I saw
:20:53. > :20:58.you chuckle when we watched that report, particularly Play Your Cards
:20:59. > :21:01.Right, I honestly don't think there is any other entertainer that this
:21:02. > :21:08.country has ever had that could have carried that off. Absolutely, he is
:21:09. > :21:11.a consummate professional, he was brilliant. I remember, he was a
:21:12. > :21:15.friend when I was a child because he was always in our sitting-room at
:21:16. > :21:18.home with the family, and we sat there laughing at this man. It was
:21:19. > :21:25.like having a sort of television uncle. He was brilliant. He was
:21:26. > :21:29.brilliant year after year after year in different shows, different
:21:30. > :21:36.genres, he was fantastic, movies, everything he did, dancing, singing,
:21:37. > :21:41.and when I met him I remember he was enchanting. A lovely story, if you
:21:42. > :21:44.years ago I was on a cruise somewhere in the world and I got a
:21:45. > :21:50.phone call from him and I thought it was very odd and I said hi, how are
:21:51. > :21:56.you? I said I'm very well. I wanted to use you as a joke in this truly
:21:57. > :21:59.come dancing on Saturday and I wanted to check that you are all
:22:00. > :22:04.right with it, and he told me they gag, and I said absolutely, and he
:22:05. > :22:08.put it in. I've been thinking all night what the gag was but I can't
:22:09. > :22:15.remember but it was a funny gag and it involved me. That was the funny
:22:16. > :22:21.gentleman that he was. First on TV in 1939, and think how society has
:22:22. > :22:26.changed, how Britain has changed, he was at the London Palladium in the
:22:27. > :22:33.60s, how did he do that? Society changed, tastes changed, but he
:22:34. > :22:38.stayed top of the game. He proved time and time again that he was this
:22:39. > :22:41.entertainer par excellence. He was brilliant. I can't think of anyone
:22:42. > :22:47.today who could touch him, or anybody then. He has been unique all
:22:48. > :22:53.these years. Coming back to Strictly, I saw him many times,
:22:54. > :22:57.Arlene and if a contestant possibly stomach had a bit of a slating,
:22:58. > :23:00.possibly justified, he would metaphorically and sometimes
:23:01. > :23:06.literally put the arm around the shoulder. Absolutely and I remember
:23:07. > :23:09.when Matt DeAngelo was in the semifinal and he couldn't remember
:23:10. > :23:14.the dance and he just sat down on the steps to the stage and Bruce, I
:23:15. > :23:24.saw his face genuinely heartbroken that someone was so troubled that
:23:25. > :23:28.they couldn't continue the dance. He wouldn't like it. If Craig says
:23:29. > :23:34.something, or I said something and he didn't like it, he was really
:23:35. > :23:38.angry, I mean genuinely, it wasn't an act. Did you ever have any sort
:23:39. > :23:44.of offstage heated exchanges? I didn't have hot heated exchanges,
:23:45. > :23:52.however, we used to discuss the fact how much he loved it, I would say
:23:53. > :23:56.Mark Ramprakash's hips were fabulous, Bruce loved it, he wanted
:23:57. > :24:01.more, you know, don't stop. Some people said he was also a tremendous
:24:02. > :24:05.producer or director in his own right, he had and I and could almost
:24:06. > :24:13.direct the show himself and if you look at his game shows he was moving
:24:14. > :24:16.the camera and the contestants. And he would put people into situations
:24:17. > :24:21.which were hysterical. It was wonderful. In my own way I've done
:24:22. > :24:27.things in pantomime but never like him. He was doing this with groups
:24:28. > :24:31.of people. It just went on and on and on, his talent. He possibly was
:24:32. > :24:36.a product of vaudeville, if you will allow that. Because we don't have
:24:37. > :24:42.vaudeville, could perform like this return? That is a good question. We
:24:43. > :24:45.get very good comedians now, we get very good singers and we get very
:24:46. > :24:52.good dancers, we get very good actors. But not one that does
:24:53. > :24:57.everything. That is what is so extraordinary about Bruce. He was a
:24:58. > :25:04.brilliant, brilliant dancer. His tap with Sammy Davis Junior was a
:25:05. > :25:08.symphony of tap, the sounds they made and the brilliance of the small
:25:09. > :25:12.taps. Something like that, you work at
:25:13. > :25:18.that, clearly he was a gifted individual and had an eye but he
:25:19. > :25:23.worked very hard. Yes. Very hard working. What was also so great
:25:24. > :25:26.about Bruce was he was a family man. Pour Winnie who was gorgeous and the
:25:27. > :25:32.love of his life, and his children who I believe were there today for
:25:33. > :25:35.the last moments -- poorer. I think it's extraordinary what talent he
:25:36. > :25:44.had. Thank goodness he got his knighthood. Yes. So well-deserved.
:25:45. > :25:47.It meant a lot to him. Christopher and Arlene Phillips, thank you for
:25:48. > :25:53.coming in, not for the right reasons. But thank you. Let's
:25:54. > :25:56.returned to Steve Bannon who has been fired in the last few hours,
:25:57. > :25:59.and what this means for the direction of travel for the trumpet
:26:00. > :26:03.administration. I'm joined by Richard Painter who worked in that
:26:04. > :26:09.White House under George W Bush as his chief ethics lawyer. Thank you
:26:10. > :26:14.for joining us. You have been critical with some of your messages.
:26:15. > :26:19.Surely the President has woken up to public opinion and he's ready to put
:26:20. > :26:23.things right. Ready to congratulate him? This is definitely a step in
:26:24. > :26:26.the right direction to remove Mr Steve Bannon but there are others in
:26:27. > :26:39.the White House with connections with the altar -- alt-right. This is
:26:40. > :26:43.a dangerous group, the spread of racist stereotypes on the Internet
:26:44. > :26:46.and encouraging even more extremist groups such as the Ku Klux Klan and
:26:47. > :26:54.Nazis rallying in Charlottesville. The altar -- alt-right has sought to
:26:55. > :26:57.influence our foreign policy, Sebastian Gorka is still in the
:26:58. > :27:02.White House who is still very much a threat to our foreign policy. He has
:27:03. > :27:05.an obsession with Muslims and wants as in a confrontational posture
:27:06. > :27:08.towards Muslims throughout the world, which is definitely not in
:27:09. > :27:12.the American interest. Stephen Miller is still in the White House,
:27:13. > :27:18.he has connections with the alt-right. There are others with
:27:19. > :27:22.extremist views. They all need to be removed if the President is going to
:27:23. > :27:27.seek to stabilise this administration and convince the
:27:28. > :27:32.Republicans in the House and the Senate and the American people that
:27:33. > :27:36.he is capable of being an effective leader, much less of course the
:27:37. > :27:42.Democrats, who may never want to really accept him. But at this point
:27:43. > :27:45.the Republicans are very frustrated, and certainly getting rid of Steve
:27:46. > :27:51.Bannon is a step in the right direction. But there is more work to
:27:52. > :27:54.be done. What now for Mr Steve Bannon? Is there a danger he could
:27:55. > :27:57.be a thorn in the side for the President and that he could cause
:27:58. > :28:01.issues if he reconnected with that fan base the President had? We are
:28:02. > :28:06.concerned about that, concerned about him going back to Breitbart
:28:07. > :28:16.News. Breitbart News is engaged in extensive race dating over the last
:28:17. > :28:19.few years -- baiting. And it was a self-proclaimed platform for the
:28:20. > :28:22.alt-right so if he goes back to Breitbart News and encourages more
:28:23. > :28:27.of this alt-right business we may see more unrest in our cities, as we
:28:28. > :28:30.did in Charlottesville, and then there might very well be attempts to
:28:31. > :28:37.influence the White House, and that would be most unfortunate. There are
:28:38. > :28:40.some ethics rules in place that prohibit Steve Bannon for lobbying
:28:41. > :28:45.back to the White House on behalf of Breitbart News and I hope they are
:28:46. > :28:53.taken seriously and unforced. You speak understandably dismissively of
:28:54. > :28:56.what Bannon and the President achieved but they are only there
:28:57. > :29:00.because they got a lot of votes so they clearly appealed to a lot of
:29:01. > :29:05.Americans, white? They did get a lot of votes, they didn't get as many as
:29:06. > :29:12.there are quite unpopular rival Hillary Clinton. They were very
:29:13. > :29:16.unsatisfied with both alternatives. We are in a situation where
:29:17. > :29:21.Americans have given Donald Trump a chance. It's been eight months and
:29:22. > :29:27.his approval rating is way down on where he started in the White House.
:29:28. > :29:33.I think it's time for the President to recalibrate what they've been
:29:34. > :29:38.doing. Has he got time? Sorry to talk over you. Has he got time to
:29:39. > :29:41.recalibrate? I don't think he has much time because people are losing
:29:42. > :29:44.patience, his lost the support of the business community, the chief
:29:45. > :29:48.executive officers quit his industrial council just a few days
:29:49. > :29:54.ago. So he needs to make a clean sweep of the altar -- alt-right out
:29:55. > :29:58.of the administration and fire Sebastian Gorka and the rest of the
:29:59. > :30:01.Majri fire his policy to focus on the issues the American people care
:30:02. > :30:05.about, making sure we have health care for all Americans and that we
:30:06. > :30:09.stabilise the economy. Great to talk to you, sorry to talk over you,
:30:10. > :30:11.Richard Painter, thank you for your time.
:30:12. > :30:18.But, on a day of sad news, Newsnight has had to digest
:30:19. > :30:21.Liz MacKean, a former BBC reporter who worked
:30:22. > :30:24.on Newsnight for 14 years, has died aged 52.
:30:25. > :30:27.Liz reported on hundreds of stories for this programme but made her name
:30:28. > :30:30.for her tenacious and fearless investigations, into the care
:30:31. > :30:32.system, into toxic waste dumping and child sex abuse,
:30:33. > :30:33.including the Jimmy Savile investigation which blew
:30:34. > :30:39.Liz's former colleagues and friends David Grossman and producer
:30:40. > :30:48.Liz MacKean was one of the most resourceful and determined
:30:49. > :30:54.As Newsnight's Northern Ireland correspondent, she was fearless in
:30:55. > :30:56.challenging the paramilitary hard men.
:30:57. > :31:00.The IRA may not have authorised his murder and Robert's
:31:01. > :31:03.sister's acknowledged that, but the fact that its members
:31:04. > :31:05.could have carried it out, covered it up and
:31:06. > :31:08.then ordered witnesses to stay silent demonstrates the hold the
:31:09. > :31:16.She made her name, though, with investigations.
:31:17. > :31:23.She picked difficult subjects and was always on the side
:31:24. > :31:26.of victims who had been ignored, disbelieved, or worse.
:31:27. > :31:36.Newsnight has obtained documents that...
:31:37. > :31:39.In 2010 she shared the Daniel Pearl Award
:31:40. > :31:42.for Investigative Journalism for her reporting on the dumping of toxic
:31:43. > :31:45.The flood of allegations about Jimmy Savile's behaviour...
:31:46. > :31:47.It was, though, for her investigations into
:31:48. > :31:49.child sex abuse, with which Liz made the biggest impact.
:31:50. > :31:51.Together with producer Meirion Jones, she
:31:52. > :31:53.worked to expose the appalling crimes of Jimmy Savile.
:31:54. > :31:59.She believed the investigation was suppressed by
:32:00. > :32:02.the BBC, and the resulting scandal made headlines all over the world.
:32:03. > :32:08.The decision not to run it was seriously flawed.
:32:09. > :32:11.Feeling let down and rather out in the cold, Liz left the
:32:12. > :32:14.Her investigations for Channel 4 went on
:32:15. > :32:19.She was named journalist of the decade by Stonewall.
:32:20. > :32:22.His accusers were ignored and then others were abused.
:32:23. > :32:30.She was, though, above all a wonderfully fun woman, the perfect
:32:31. > :32:32.companion for a decompression drink once the day's filming
:32:33. > :32:42.Occasionally, her humour found its way onto the screen.
:32:43. > :32:44.Here she is puncturing the absurd conventions of
:32:45. > :32:51.And what's this got to do with the wider debate about trust?
:32:52. > :32:53.I was asking that question to thin air.
:32:54. > :32:56.Liz also loved being outdoors, sailing
:32:57. > :33:03.Her final tweet, just a week before her death, was a picture
:33:04. > :33:06.Now, we're coming into the Newsnight studio...
:33:07. > :33:08.Liz took her journalism very seriously but never
:33:09. > :33:11.ailment of the investigative journalist, the serious ego.
:33:12. > :33:14.Sorry, everyone, I forgot what I was trying to say.
:33:15. > :33:31.Liz leaves behind her wife and her two children.
:33:32. > :33:33.Good evening, the weather looks more promising for