:00:00. > :00:00.This is a storm of absolutely historic destructive potential.
:00:00. > :00:08.I ask everyone in the storm's path to
:00:09. > :00:11.be vigilant and heed all recommendations from government
:00:12. > :00:18.A race against time to get out of the way.
:00:19. > :00:21.20 million in Florida are told they may need to leave their homes
:00:22. > :00:24.Roads are packed as many try to flee.
:00:25. > :00:28.Hurricane Irma is due to hit the state within the next 24 hours.
:00:29. > :00:30.We're on the Florida coast to see what they're
:00:31. > :00:42.If you are in one of those evacuation zones it is entirely too
:00:43. > :00:45.dangerous and you are checking your life in your hands.
:00:46. > :00:47.And we'll hear from the Caribbean island of Barbuda.
:00:48. > :00:49.It's already felt the full force of the storm -
:00:50. > :00:53.We'll ask the head of the Red Cross there when residents
:00:54. > :00:56.And our political editor, Nick Watt, is hearing growing
:00:57. > :01:00.political criticism of the UK Government's disaster response.
:01:01. > :01:04.Why are our prisons so full of young black men and women?
:01:05. > :01:09.Is it racism, unconscious bias or just a failure of the system?
:01:10. > :01:12.David Lammy tells Newsnight the criminal justice system has been
:01:13. > :01:17.And on the eve of North Korea's national day, we report
:01:18. > :01:23.The dissidents who are no longer scared to express what they feel
:01:24. > :01:33.He just tried to slice a portrait of Kim Jong-un with a knife
:01:34. > :01:44.and the South Korean police swooped in and took it away.
:01:45. > :01:48.Donald Trump spoke straight to camera this evening to warn
:01:49. > :01:53.of the absolutely historic destructive potential
:01:54. > :01:56."It is of epic proportion" he tweeted.
:01:57. > :01:59."Perhaps bigger than we have ever seen".
:02:00. > :02:01.The President is used to pulling out the superlatives.
:02:02. > :02:03.This time though it may well be deserved.
:02:04. > :02:07.Hurricane Irma is expected to hit the US this weekend
:02:08. > :02:13.and the authorities are expecting devastation.
:02:14. > :02:16.It is only the third Category 5 hurricane America has seen
:02:17. > :02:19.When the storm hits, the emergency services have told
:02:20. > :02:22.people in the Florida Keys, don't call 9/11.
:02:23. > :02:30.But first, to the Carribbean, much of which lies wrecked
:02:31. > :02:34.The British Virgin Islands have been declared a state of emergency,
:02:35. > :02:37.Turks and Caicos island were pummelled and declared
:02:38. > :02:42.These are the pictures today from the island of Barbuda.
:02:43. > :02:46.60% of its 1600 inhabitants are reportedly homeless.
:02:47. > :02:51.The roads and telecoms systems will take years to rebuild.
:02:52. > :02:53.We're hearing stories of people roaming the streets desparate
:02:54. > :03:00.for food and water in the immediate aftermath of the storm.
:03:01. > :03:03.And of boats and helicopters racing to evacuate all 1600 residents,
:03:04. > :03:11.Just before I came on air I spoke to Michael Joseph, President
:03:12. > :03:14.of Antigua-Barbuda Red Cross he told me about the level
:03:15. > :03:21.We are talking about 100% rebuilding, 100%
:03:22. > :03:30.We are talking about redeveloping livelihoods, we're talking
:03:31. > :03:33.about reintegrating people back into new settings.
:03:34. > :03:35.It's literally building a country from its primitive time back up
:03:36. > :03:55.The government asked for voluntary evacuation since yesterday
:03:56. > :03:58.and declared a mandatory evacuation today ahead of Jose.
:03:59. > :04:02.And what do you imagine those people will do, where will they go,
:04:03. > :04:05.Well, many Antiguans have been asked to open
:04:06. > :04:17.That has been the case, many Antiguans have opened their rooms,
:04:18. > :04:19.some who have extra homes that they rent, have offered them
:04:20. > :04:21.as temporary housing for those persons who don't.
:04:22. > :04:26.The government have put together three temporary makeshift
:04:27. > :04:29.shelters to facilitate them, primarily now, dealing
:04:30. > :04:34.Then the long term plan will come afterwards.
:04:35. > :04:37.You talk about Barbuda starting from scratch, all over again.
:04:38. > :04:47.We're talking about a population of 1600 inhabitants.
:04:48. > :04:50.We are talking about schools rebuilding, we are talking
:04:51. > :04:55.I would estimate anything between three to five years before
:04:56. > :04:59.we get it even close to what it used to be.
:05:00. > :05:07.As it stands now, Barbuda is uninhabitable.
:05:08. > :05:10.Do you feel you have had the help you needed
:05:11. > :05:12.so far to evacuate people, to save lives?
:05:13. > :05:19.Antiguans on the whole have really pitched in to make it possible.
:05:20. > :05:23.They've done everything they can to move things.
:05:24. > :05:32.The Venezuelans have supported us significantly,
:05:33. > :05:47.they have sent in two cargo vessels with relief supplies.
:05:48. > :05:52.The closest humanitarian aid coming in from any countries so far.
:05:53. > :05:54.Do you think Western governments have done enough
:05:55. > :05:58.As it stands now, it's not being felt on the ground.
:05:59. > :06:00.All the response has been coordinated through the Red Cross,
:06:01. > :06:02.local officials, or the government themselves with minimal support
:06:03. > :06:09.Michael, I will let you get back to what you are doing there,
:06:10. > :06:12.but thank you very much for joining us.
:06:13. > :06:15.As we said earlier, it is Florida that will find itself
:06:16. > :06:20.Its Governor, Rick Scott, told all 20 million of the state's
:06:21. > :06:22.residents they should be prepared to evacuate,
:06:23. > :06:34.This evening, queues of cars on the normally smooth running
:06:35. > :06:36.freeways ground to a standstill as they heeded the advice.
:06:37. > :06:38.Airports are beginning to close to international flights
:06:39. > :06:43.Indian River County is on the Atlantic Coast of Florida -
:06:44. > :06:46.I asked their Sherrif, Major Eric Flowers,
:06:47. > :06:53.if people were following the advice to leave.
:06:54. > :07:00.That is very serious, we are expecting that some time on Saturday
:07:01. > :07:04.we will begin to experience hurricane force winds. We will
:07:05. > :07:09.close, there are three bridges that cross over to the island and when
:07:10. > :07:14.sustained winds reach 39 mph we will close the bridges and people will no
:07:15. > :07:20.longer be able to travel and when they reach 70 mph, all of our first
:07:21. > :07:24.responders, fire and every with law enforcement, will be pulled in and
:07:25. > :07:29.it will not respond to calls any more. When the calls come in on 911
:07:30. > :07:34.we will document them and check on them as the storm subsides. People
:07:35. > :07:38.in dangerous circumstances need to leave right now because there will
:07:39. > :07:43.come a time when we cannot respond to them. What is your message to
:07:44. > :07:49.those saying they will get in some supplies and stay but? If you are in
:07:50. > :07:53.one of those evacuation zones, it is too dangerous and you are checking
:07:54. > :07:56.your life in your hands. We have emergency shelters are available
:07:57. > :08:00.opening at eight o'clock tomorrow morning and if you cannot go to your
:08:01. > :08:05.friends or a hotel or get out of the state or the county, we have
:08:06. > :08:10.shelter. Take advantage of it, do not wait until it is too late. Make
:08:11. > :08:17.that decision now. We are running out of time, it is time to take
:08:18. > :08:20.shelter. The Stormers getting very close, it is bearing down. Many
:08:21. > :08:24.evacuated people, they will not return to their homes in a matter of
:08:25. > :08:31.days, it could be weeks or months. How much do they take with them? We
:08:32. > :08:35.suggest they take the necessary personal effects, medication and ID
:08:36. > :08:42.and anything they would need in another state to establish
:08:43. > :08:45.additional pharmacy fill for medications. Enough clothing to
:08:46. > :08:49.sustain them for at least a few days but it could be quite some time
:08:50. > :08:54.before we allow people back into their homes. Talk me through
:08:55. > :08:58.something. When I look at the picture, it seems very calm and
:08:59. > :09:02.blue. Is there a sense in the air that the weather is changing where
:09:03. > :09:08.you are? Can you feel it on the ground? Absolutely. People were
:09:09. > :09:12.reporting this morning hearing less birds chirping, the wind is slightly
:09:13. > :09:17.globally, you do not hear that. You do not hear the normal Florida
:09:18. > :09:23.sounds and is that sense there is something coming. You can feel it
:09:24. > :09:27.when you go out. What would you ask first responders to do? When the
:09:28. > :09:33.storm hits, but everybody be on duty all the time or is there a limit to
:09:34. > :09:36.what you are asking them to do? We actually evacuated the emergency
:09:37. > :09:41.plan on Thursday morning and everybody went to alpha bravo, they
:09:42. > :09:45.worked 12 hour shifts. Days and nights and they will work until they
:09:46. > :09:49.get the County secured and until we have everybody say. Our thoughts are
:09:50. > :10:09.with you. Thank you for joining us. There has been criticism in the UK
:10:10. > :10:16.about the response. Who have been hearing from? This is from the
:10:17. > :10:24.Conservative Select Committee and Stephen Twigg, and they have written
:10:25. > :10:28.a joint letter to Boris Johnson and Priti Patel saying that the response
:10:29. > :10:33.to these hurricanes has been found wanting and there has been a lack of
:10:34. > :10:37.forward thinking and a lack of preparation and they are comparing
:10:38. > :10:41.this with the rather impressive French response, talking about how
:10:42. > :10:47.the French had pre-positioned generators in place. This evening, I
:10:48. > :10:50.spoke to tomb -- to Tom Tugendhat and he has praise for the
:10:51. > :10:57.government, he says they have people on planes quickly, they moved HMS
:10:58. > :11:01.ocean pretty quickly and the point he is making is the UK has done well
:11:02. > :11:04.but it needs to do better because there is another one on the way. The
:11:05. > :11:11.response from Downing Street has been what? The governments fear is
:11:12. > :11:15.they are dealing with an overwhelming natural disaster and
:11:16. > :11:20.the significance about this is it is unprecedented in both its scale and
:11:21. > :11:26.its repetition. As you were saying, there is Hurricane Harvey, there is
:11:27. > :11:30.Irma and Hurricane Jose. There is a big operation, they have vessels at
:11:31. > :11:33.Anguilla, then it went to the British Virgin Islands and did
:11:34. > :11:38.reconnaissance and they say it is unfair to compare the UK with France
:11:39. > :11:44.because the French territories there are French soil. They are governed
:11:45. > :11:48.from Paris. The UK territories are overseas territories, there is a
:11:49. > :11:51.governor and a Prime Minister so it is more of an arms length
:11:52. > :11:55.relationship. Whitehall sources say that in the long term that allows
:11:56. > :11:58.the UK to be more flexible, but it does not have permanent military
:11:59. > :12:06.assets there. In conservative circles there is very with Tom
:12:07. > :12:09.Tugendhat and sources say that this is self-indulgent because he drew up
:12:10. > :12:13.the letter and even hearing from a former military office saying this
:12:14. > :12:16.is treachery. Gosh! Thank you very much.
:12:17. > :12:18.The author of the report into the criminal justice system has
:12:19. > :12:20.told this programme he couldn't believe how complacent
:12:21. > :12:24.Speaking to Newsnight as he published findings into an 18
:12:25. > :12:26.month study into the ethnic breakdown of young offenders,
:12:27. > :12:30.which showed a disproprotionate number of non-white men and women
:12:31. > :12:33.in jail, he said he was surprised at just how indifferent
:12:34. > :12:40.He calls for radical solutions for dealing
:12:41. > :12:41.with young offenders, including, in some cases
:12:42. > :12:44.We'll hear from David Lammy in a moment.
:12:45. > :12:49.First, this report from David Grossman.
:12:50. > :12:54.She's supposed to impartially weigh the evidence, irrespective
:12:55. > :13:00.Today's report from the Labour MP, David Lammy, but commissioned
:13:01. > :13:03.by the government, says we have a long way to go
:13:04. > :13:07.until we get to such an impartial legal system.
:13:08. > :13:11.Shaun Bailey is a London assembly member, who advised the enquiry.
:13:12. > :13:15.It's well documented that black men are treated more harshly.
:13:16. > :13:20.This report and its recommendations gives the criminal justice system
:13:21. > :13:23.a real, serious direction of travel to address that problem.
:13:24. > :13:26.Let's be clear here, nobody is asking for special treatment,
:13:27. > :13:28.just equal treatment and the recommendations are a real
:13:29. > :13:34.Mr Lammy's recommendations have two broad aims -
:13:35. > :13:35.increasing transparency and increasing trust.
:13:36. > :14:03.Guys, I'm talking, you are not listening.
:14:04. > :14:05.Bobby now runs a football club for youngsters
:14:06. > :14:12.He says he's turned his life around and has spent eight years in prison.
:14:13. > :14:15.He was convicted of conspiracy to rob security vans.
:14:16. > :14:21.Black men like Bobby are 50% more likely to plead not guilty
:14:22. > :14:26.It's a big reason, says today's report, that black men have
:14:27. > :14:34.You go into court believing they will believe anything I say.
:14:35. > :14:38.I will tell the honest to god truth and they will still be against me.
:14:39. > :14:42.We believe it is us versus them at certain points.
:14:43. > :14:46.Originally at my first case, I pleaded not guilty
:14:47. > :14:51.because I was young, I was naive and I was like,
:14:52. > :14:57.I think I can get away with this and I will go not guilty.
:14:58. > :14:59.I don't think I was given the advice from my solicitor
:15:00. > :15:02.or lawyers to tell me, just plead guilty and you'll
:15:03. > :15:04.For individuals, the review recommends reformed offenders
:15:05. > :15:07.should be able to apply to have their criminal records
:15:08. > :15:09.sealed so they don't have to disclose them
:15:10. > :15:14.Young offenders should be assessed for the majority to inform
:15:15. > :15:17.And controversially, low-level offenders should be able
:15:18. > :15:20.to defer prosecution and opt for a rehabilitation programme,
:15:21. > :15:23.even before they enter a plea, so they don't even have
:15:24. > :15:30.You enable people who have taken a wrong turn to be able not
:15:31. > :15:34.to have the stigma of a criminal record for the rest of their life
:15:35. > :15:36.if they take steps to resolve the problems they've
:15:37. > :15:39.But more importantly, we have that process
:15:40. > :15:42.Two examples, conditional cautions occur.
:15:43. > :15:45.Someone has to admit guilt, but they can avoid a conviction
:15:46. > :15:48.if they take certain steps pursuant to a conditional caution.
:15:49. > :15:50.And we also have deferred prosecution in relation
:15:51. > :15:57.to organisations involved in serious fraud.
:15:58. > :16:00.What's great about this review, is it is taking context that are out
:16:01. > :16:03.there and trying to find interesting and innovative ways to apply them
:16:04. > :16:05.to a problem that it hasn't been applied to before.
:16:06. > :16:08.For Bobby, one of the biggest problem is that young black men face
:16:09. > :16:10.with the criminal justice system is a perception of bias,
:16:11. > :16:19.The jurors were an all-white jury, the judge was white, funnily enough,
:16:20. > :16:23.the prosecutor was black, which was a bit of a funny one.
:16:24. > :16:26.But I was looking at the prosecutor like come on give me a chance, mate.
:16:27. > :16:30.But he was working for the court system.
:16:31. > :16:32.What was your experience with the outcome,
:16:33. > :16:38.To be fair, the judge was pretty lenient on me.
:16:39. > :16:42.Everyone was scaring me saying, well, conspiracy to rob
:16:43. > :16:46.cash from transit vans, you are looking at
:16:47. > :16:50.So when the judge actually gave me the four years initially,
:16:51. > :16:53.I thought well, I got a touch there, so maybe I've now got a chance
:16:54. > :16:56.The ideal solution, according to Bobby, is not really
:16:57. > :16:59.about reforming the criminal justice system, it's about what he's
:17:00. > :17:01.dedicating himself to now, making sure young black man,
:17:02. > :17:08.don't end up in the system in the first place.
:17:09. > :17:13.Well any talk of deferred sentences for the first or second offence asks
:17:14. > :17:16.the system to prioritise the needs of wrongdoers over those
:17:17. > :17:22.So, how comfortable would Daivd Lammy be to see us
:17:23. > :17:27.And how surprised was he by what he found.
:17:28. > :17:32.I didn't expect to find that the figures for young offenders
:17:33. > :17:40.I mean, if 41% of our youth prison population is from a black ethnic
:17:41. > :17:42.or minority ethnic background, that is heading to half
:17:43. > :17:48.And I think the worst thing about it is the reoffending rate.
:17:49. > :17:51.46% reoffending means the system really isn't working because people
:17:52. > :17:53.are coming back so there are big questions about what is happening
:17:54. > :18:00.You raise the question in your report of maturity.
:18:01. > :18:03.Do you think our definition of the legal age of young
:18:04. > :18:10.I met 18 and 19-year-olds sitting in adult prisons
:18:11. > :18:13.and they are clearly in adult prisons mixing with some very
:18:14. > :18:23.These were young men that often couldn't really assess risk
:18:24. > :18:27.and risky behaviour, were compulsive, spontaneous,
:18:28. > :18:34.poor at making judgments about peer group.
:18:35. > :18:38.And all of the modern evidence on the teenage brain
:18:39. > :18:42.and the development, if you like, of the youthful brain
:18:43. > :18:45.is that you really sort of settle down at about 25.
:18:46. > :18:47.So should young offenders still be classified as such
:18:48. > :18:53.What I'm recommending is like the German system,
:18:54. > :18:55.there is an assessment of maturity by independent psychiatrists
:18:56. > :18:58.and psychologists able to make that judgment about whether that young
:18:59. > :19:06.person ought to be in the youth or state.
:19:07. > :19:08.We all grew up in the shadow of the MacPherson Report.
:19:09. > :19:11.The term he used was institutionalised racism.
:19:12. > :19:13.Now, you don't call it that this time.
:19:14. > :19:18.Do you believe, at its heart, it is racism?
:19:19. > :19:25.And I did find evidence of overt discrimination,
:19:26. > :19:32.I wasn't asked to do an enquiry into racism
:19:33. > :19:39.I was asked to do a review and I said that it had to be
:19:40. > :19:43.evidence-led and you are very much looking at the academic evidence,
:19:44. > :19:45.you are spending time in prisons, you are speaking to people,
:19:46. > :19:49.you are really making an assessment of the figures and the data that has
:19:50. > :19:57.And my judgment was that absolutely there still is bias...
:19:58. > :20:00.But you don't use the term racism for a reason.
:20:01. > :20:04.It is because it was very hard for me to get into the minds
:20:05. > :20:07.of those who are actors in a very big system.
:20:08. > :20:10.In the end, our country has tended to focus on policing.
:20:11. > :20:11.My review was everything after policing.
:20:12. > :20:14.So what I'm suggesting is you intervene earlier with something
:20:15. > :20:21.You deal right away with the person who has committed the crime
:20:22. > :20:24.and you can only do this with first and second time offences.
:20:25. > :20:27.It is very hard, isn't it, to turn around to the victim
:20:28. > :20:30.of a mugging or whatever it is and say, sorry,
:20:31. > :20:36.at this point it makes more sense to put the culprit first?
:20:37. > :20:40.The evidence from the pilot, the Turning Point pilot
:20:41. > :20:43.in the West Midlands, is that victims like the system.
:20:44. > :20:47.Because I suspect for first and second time offences,
:20:48. > :20:50.where it isn't a very serious violent crime, what
:20:51. > :20:56.They want that young person not smashing cars.
:20:57. > :20:58.But you are taking the punishment element out.
:20:59. > :21:05.By deferring a prosecution you are basically turning
:21:06. > :21:08.to the person who has done it and said, it's all right.
:21:09. > :21:10.We actually use deferred prosecution for serious fraud.
:21:11. > :21:23.Because the state doesn't want to do huge, big fraud trials
:21:24. > :21:26.that cost a fortune, we go to the CEO that has just
:21:27. > :21:28.mismanaged funds and we ask them to defer prosecution,
:21:29. > :21:31.to work with the system, if you like, to 'fess up.
:21:32. > :21:36.And a lot of people find that incredibly distasteful.
:21:37. > :21:41.I do think that if the system isn't working, if recidivism rates
:21:42. > :21:43.are 46% for black men, then something isn't working.
:21:44. > :21:45.Do you feel comfortable with saying, we may become
:21:46. > :21:49.a system which prioritises wrongdoers over victims?
:21:50. > :21:52.Do you feel comfortable saying, we're not going to tell employers
:21:53. > :21:58.Is it fair on that employer who might have a duty of care
:21:59. > :22:08.How far along that road would you feel comfortable going?
:22:09. > :22:11.Well, I'm thinking of the scales of justice and I'm thinking of balance.
:22:12. > :22:13.I worry a lot about young people, particularly, trapped
:22:14. > :22:15.in a culture of criminality because they can't get employment.
:22:16. > :22:17.50% of employers say they wouldn't employ someone
:22:18. > :22:30.I might say also, my recommendations are for everyone.
:22:31. > :22:32.I was asked to look at disproportionality for black
:22:33. > :22:35.and Asian and minority ethnic people but a lot of my recommendations
:22:36. > :22:39.And we ought to think about more flexibility or I'm afraid we're
:22:40. > :22:41.building in unemployment for large tracks of the country, not just
:22:42. > :22:43.black and Asian minority ethnic, but for white working-class
:22:44. > :22:59.When you look at this mistrust of systems that
:23:00. > :23:01.you have reported on, do you share some
:23:02. > :23:04.I was surprised at how indifferent the system is to race.
:23:05. > :23:07.If you were in a London comprehensive, it would be
:23:08. > :23:09.impossible, frankly, not to meet head teachers and staff,
:23:10. > :23:13.the local authority, they are all over the data.
:23:14. > :23:19.The education world is looking at the data
:23:20. > :23:26.I couldn't believe how complacent the criminal justice sector
:23:27. > :23:32.Tomorrow, the 9th September, is North Korea's national day.
:23:33. > :23:35.There will be celebrations, military parades, wall-to-wall
:23:36. > :23:40.worship of their dynastic leader, Kim Jong-un, and, all too possibly,
:23:41. > :23:47.The South Korean President said today he is expecting one.
:23:48. > :23:50.And just a few days ago the US Ambassador to the UN, Nikki Haley,
:23:51. > :23:53.said North Korea is almost "begging for war".
:23:54. > :24:13.Newsnight's Gabriel Gatehouse is in the south Korean capital, Seoul.
:24:14. > :24:20.They are broadcasting into the North from this building.
:24:21. > :24:30.Thank you very much for inviting us to your radio studio.
:24:31. > :24:34.Based in Seoul and funded by a Church in the United States,
:24:35. > :24:40.Free North Korea Radio wants to bring down the Kim dynasty.
:24:41. > :24:42.So this is a North Korean anthem and they changed
:24:43. > :25:02.The radio station is run by Jung-hoon Choi, who defected
:25:03. > :25:31.from the North Korean army a decade ago.
:25:32. > :25:34.The policy of containment hasn't worked, but military action
:25:35. > :25:36.would have consequences that are terrible to contemplate.
:25:37. > :25:40.Seoul is only 30 miles from the border.
:25:41. > :25:42.And it's not just the threat of a nuclear strike,
:25:43. > :25:45.these buildings, this whole city is well within range
:25:46. > :25:53.There are thousands and thousands of shells and rockets trained
:25:54. > :25:56.on this city and any kind of strike on the north, would inevitably
:25:57. > :26:11.And yet, some people are actively pushing for conflict.
:26:12. > :26:14.The defectors we met at the radio station have called a protest
:26:15. > :26:21.They are emboldened by some of the more confrontational
:26:22. > :26:23.statements coming out of the new Administration.
:26:24. > :26:47.These people think that the Trump presidency might be their chance.
:26:48. > :26:50.To underline the point, the protesters attempt a symbolic
:26:51. > :27:01.So, what's happening is they just tried to slice a portrait
:27:02. > :27:04.of Kim Jong-un with a knife and the South Korean police
:27:05. > :27:20.But the police are no match for the defectors' zeal.
:27:21. > :27:33.Another Kim is produced and this time, he gets it.
:27:34. > :27:37.The Korean War ended in 1953, not with a peace deal, but a ceasefire.
:27:38. > :27:39.Koreans have lived with the possibility of a return
:27:40. > :27:50.And yet, away from the demos and the activists, in Seoul,
:27:51. > :27:52.it's pretty difficult to find anyone who is overly concerned.
:27:53. > :27:56.Despite the looming threat of nuclear apocalypse, no one's
:27:57. > :28:18.It's almost as if the rapid escalation and tensions
:28:19. > :28:26.is a piece of theatre aimed, not at an audience of North Koreans,
:28:27. > :28:28.but at Westerners and Americans in particular.
:28:29. > :28:30.We sit in London and people are talking about could North Korean
:28:31. > :28:33.missiles reach London and everyone in the West is freaking out,
:28:34. > :28:35.but you guys are just sitting here quite happily,
:28:36. > :28:46.Because, Kim Jong-un is a crazy person and we think that he's
:28:47. > :28:49.a crazy person and crazy people do crazy things everyday.
:28:50. > :28:53.And Donald Trump, we also think he's a crazy person too.
:28:54. > :28:54.Donald Trump is more dangerous than Kim Jong-un.
:28:55. > :29:08.I don't think it's a scary thought, it's a realistic thought.
:29:09. > :29:11.So you think there will be conflict at some point?
:29:12. > :29:18.Caught between two angry nuclear powers, young Koreans still do
:29:19. > :29:27.the kind of things young people do the world over.
:29:28. > :29:29.In the case of Hong Wu and his fellow students, band practice.
:29:30. > :29:36.Korean pop music known as K Pop is serious business.
:29:37. > :29:38.Far more serious than the threat that never seems to materialise.
:29:39. > :29:44.Sometimes I think, before I go to sleep, I lie down
:29:45. > :29:49.in my bed and think, what if right now, the bomb comes
:29:50. > :29:57.During the Cold War, nuclear conflict was avoided
:29:58. > :30:00.because of the principle of Mutually Assured Destruction,
:30:01. > :30:09.Today, that's an adjective often applied to at least one
:30:10. > :30:11.of the protagonists in this new nuclear drama.
:30:12. > :30:14.And remember what Chekhov said, "if there is a gun on stage in act
:30:15. > :30:28.one, it has to go off before the end of the play."
:30:29. > :30:38.Let's quickly go through the front pages. The Guardian has the world is
:30:39. > :30:51.more dangerous now than it has been for a generation. And Desmond Tutu
:30:52. > :30:56.speaks out against his friend. And the Times has got Theresa May is
:30:57. > :31:02.hopeless and weak. That was our top Tory party donor accusing the Prime
:31:03. > :31:03.Minister of handling Brexit and alienating businesses and he is a
:31:04. > :31:07.Brexiteer. You might not have noticed,
:31:08. > :31:11.but there's been a major solar storm this week,
:31:12. > :31:13.with the most powerful solar flare One person who did notice
:31:14. > :31:17.is laplander Alexander Kuznetsov, who drove as far north
:31:18. > :31:19.as he could in Finland to find a clear sky,
:31:20. > :31:22.and was rewarded with Northern Lights the like of which he'd
:31:23. > :31:24.hardly seen before. # I can feel my
:31:25. > :31:49.instincts here for you.