0:00:05 > 0:00:07Political crisis in Germany - the world's most powerful woman
0:00:07 > 0:00:15sees her coalition talks collapse.
0:00:15 > 0:00:17As Angela Merkel hits the buffers, has Brexit just disappeared
0:00:17 > 0:00:18off Europe's radar?
0:00:18 > 0:00:19And where does that leave us?
0:00:19 > 0:00:21Theresa May has won support
0:00:21 > 0:00:22of her Cabinet colleagues to increase their financial
0:00:22 > 0:00:24offer to the EU.
0:00:24 > 0:00:27But does that have any weight if there is a power vacuum
0:00:27 > 0:00:35at the heart of Europe?
0:00:35 > 0:00:41We expect the motion to be moved tomorrow, the committee set up and
0:00:41 > 0:00:43we expect that by Wednesday we should be able to vote in
0:00:43 > 0:00:45Parliament.
0:00:45 > 0:00:47Mugabe refused to be cowed by house arrest or a resignation speech,
0:00:47 > 0:00:49so why on earth does Zanu-PF think
0:00:49 > 0:00:51they can impeach him in two days?
0:00:51 > 0:00:53We'll ask them if the game plan has gone wrong.
0:00:53 > 0:00:56Pure evil, pure fantascist, or just a dull man whom America
0:00:56 > 0:01:00tried to make into a celebrity.
0:01:00 > 0:01:02We look at the death of serial killer Charles Manson.
0:01:02 > 0:01:04Will his cult carry on without him?
0:01:04 > 0:01:05And an effusive apology from Paperchase after
0:01:05 > 0:01:08advertising in the Daily Mail.
0:01:08 > 0:01:10Why are activists claiming this as a victory?
0:01:10 > 0:01:13And what should customers do now?
0:01:20 > 0:01:21Good Evening.
0:01:21 > 0:01:26It wasn't so long ago the superlatives abounded:
0:01:26 > 0:01:29the world's most powerful woman, the mother of Europe, or simply,
0:01:29 > 0:01:30in her mother tongue.
0:01:30 > 0:01:31Mutti.
0:01:31 > 0:01:33Tonight Germany's chancellor Angela Merkel is looking unusually
0:01:33 > 0:01:35vulnerable after a collapse of coalition talks aimed
0:01:35 > 0:01:38at forming her next government.
0:01:38 > 0:01:40The decision by the Pro Business Party -
0:01:40 > 0:01:42the Free Democrats - to walk out on the process -
0:01:42 > 0:01:52has left Merkel isolated.
0:01:52 > 0:01:55She has said she'd rather have new elections than try and lead
0:01:55 > 0:01:56a minority government.
0:01:56 > 0:01:57Its Germany's problem first and foremost.
0:01:57 > 0:01:59But its also Europe and by extension, ours.
0:01:59 > 0:02:02Brexit has just sunk rather far down the list of things Europe's biggest
0:02:02 > 0:02:04player needs to think about now.
0:02:04 > 0:02:05Our diplomatic editor Mark Urban covered the German
0:02:05 > 0:02:06elections in September.
0:02:06 > 0:02:12Here's his take on the mess two months on.
0:02:12 > 0:02:15She has survived so many changes of government elsewhere,
0:02:15 > 0:02:20but now Europe's most powerful national leader is in trouble.
0:02:20 > 0:02:23From the moment the exit polls came out in September,
0:02:23 > 0:02:25it was clear that Angela Merkel had some tricky coalition
0:02:25 > 0:02:33building ahead of her.
0:02:33 > 0:02:35Yesterday she apparently gave up on Plan A, power-sharing
0:02:35 > 0:02:38with the Greens and the Liberals, and today voiced a readiness to go
0:02:38 > 0:02:43back to the country.
0:02:43 > 0:02:46TRANSLATION: New elections is one option but for a stable country,
0:02:46 > 0:02:48a country that has so many challenges to face, the option
0:02:48 > 0:02:51of a minority government is something you would want to look
0:02:51 > 0:02:54at very carefully.
0:02:54 > 0:02:57I will not say never today, but I am very sceptical and I think
0:02:57 > 0:03:00new elections would be the better solution.
0:03:00 > 0:03:03There is still a possible plan B, a coalition with the left-wing SPD
0:03:03 > 0:03:09who have ruled it out up to now but the fear a new vote.
0:03:09 > 0:03:12Chancellor Merkel has said she does not want to stand down.
0:03:12 > 0:03:19She sees herself with the responsibility to provide stability.
0:03:19 > 0:03:22Of course some people think the situation we have right now
0:03:22 > 0:03:25is in fact a testament to her no longer being able to
0:03:25 > 0:03:26provide the stability.
0:03:26 > 0:03:29She was not able to bring the exploratory talks
0:03:29 > 0:03:32to a successful end, so I think what she is trying to do
0:03:32 > 0:03:35by saying that she would rather have new elections than a minority
0:03:35 > 0:03:37government is to rope the social Democrats, the SPD,
0:03:37 > 0:03:43that into a rather lustreless, probably grand, coalition.
0:03:43 > 0:03:46But with Germany holding such sway in Europe the current crisis
0:03:46 > 0:03:49could have much wider effects.
0:03:49 > 0:03:51France's president could try to exert a stronger role
0:03:51 > 0:03:55if Germany stumbles.
0:03:55 > 0:03:56It is interesting for France.
0:03:56 > 0:04:00In one sense I think it will mean that the French are able
0:04:00 > 0:04:02to drive the agenda and, for example, will be dominant
0:04:02 > 0:04:06on the European side in the Brexit negotiations for example.
0:04:06 > 0:04:10On the other hand, what it means for Macron is he is not going to get
0:04:10 > 0:04:13a German response to his proposals on European integration and reform
0:04:13 > 0:04:14in the eurozone for some time.
0:04:14 > 0:04:18And of course there is Brexit.
0:04:18 > 0:04:20Ministers today attended a Cabinet committee meeting intended
0:04:20 > 0:04:24to improve the UK's financial offer head of a December summit.
0:04:24 > 0:04:28But there is deadlock also on the Irish border and little
0:04:28 > 0:04:31chance that Mrs Merkel will be pushing the other countries to agree
0:04:31 > 0:04:34even if she wanted to.
0:04:34 > 0:04:38This is not good news for Britain because if Germany can't focus
0:04:38 > 0:04:43on Brexit which has already not been at the top of its priority list,
0:04:43 > 0:04:47then that means that the EU will be less flexible in its position
0:04:47 > 0:04:51in the negotiations.
0:04:51 > 0:04:54Talk to British ministers and you find many still cling
0:04:54 > 0:04:56to this idea that Angela Merkel will deliver a benign
0:04:56 > 0:05:00Brexit package.
0:05:00 > 0:05:03But among those from the other 27 countries you hear something
0:05:03 > 0:05:07altogether different, that it is Germany that is taking
0:05:07 > 0:05:10the tougher stance on the financial question and it is Germany that now
0:05:10 > 0:05:14seeks to organise the others around a very robust position
0:05:14 > 0:05:20on the future terms of trade.
0:05:20 > 0:05:23What difference will a weakened Merkel make?
0:05:23 > 0:05:26Well, it will mean she is less liable to take political risks
0:05:26 > 0:05:30in anyone's interests other than her own.
0:05:30 > 0:05:33For the Prime Minister trying to navigate the shoals of Brexit
0:05:33 > 0:05:35with her European partners an already complex task has just
0:05:35 > 0:05:40become even more so.
0:05:40 > 0:05:43What concerns me is that if Germany does not have an established
0:05:43 > 0:05:46coalition, making decisions on tricky issues in Brexit like have
0:05:46 > 0:05:53we achieved sufficient progress?
0:05:53 > 0:05:55Can we move to the next phase of the negotiations?
0:05:55 > 0:05:57Should we have a transitional arrangement?
0:05:57 > 0:06:00It is going to be more difficult for Germany and in those
0:06:00 > 0:06:04circumstances it seems to me that moving forward the Brexit
0:06:04 > 0:06:07negotiation is made more complicated by what has happened in Germany
0:06:07 > 0:06:10in the last 24 hours.
0:06:10 > 0:06:13Angela Merkel has been around so long she has seen British prime
0:06:13 > 0:06:15ministers come and go, but increasingly people now will be
0:06:15 > 0:06:22looking to the post-Merkel era.
0:06:22 > 0:06:27Mark Urban.
0:06:27 > 0:06:32We will discuss the ramifications it will have an Brexit in a moment.
0:06:32 > 0:06:33Ulrike Franke is a research fellow
0:06:33 > 0:06:35from the European Council on Foreign Relations.
0:06:35 > 0:06:37She joins us now from Berlin.
0:06:37 > 0:06:41Sticking with Germany, how serious do you think this is why is proving
0:06:41 > 0:06:51so hard this time around?Well, the reason why it is so hard is that it
0:06:51 > 0:06:57was never the Plan A. It was never was a project that anyone involved
0:06:57 > 0:07:01wanted, it was born out of necessity. It is not surprising that
0:07:01 > 0:07:09it failed.You're talking about the colours of the parties that make up
0:07:09 > 0:07:13the flag, this is the short term of the parties that she wanted to bring
0:07:13 > 0:07:17with her into the Coalition. You think that formation has failed for
0:07:17 > 0:07:25good, do you?I think so. These were the pre-negotiations, not the
0:07:25 > 0:07:29official once and they lasted for four weeks and the three parties
0:07:29 > 0:07:32involved could not make up their minds, could not get together and
0:07:32 > 0:07:39this morning, they decided not to continue this any more.Do you see a
0:07:39 > 0:07:48way through this for Angela Merkel? For Angela Merkel, yes, at this
0:07:48 > 0:07:53point, there are three options. One is to form a Coalition with someone
0:07:53 > 0:07:58else which would be the SPD, the only party that is left. That seems
0:07:58 > 0:08:02very unlikely because they have excluded that. The other possibility
0:08:02 > 0:08:10would be a minority government, under Angela Merkel. Our European
0:08:10 > 0:08:13colleagues and partners in Scandinavia for instance have a lot
0:08:13 > 0:08:16of experience of theirs but this would be new for Germany, we have
0:08:16 > 0:08:21never had it before and it would be particularly tricky at the moment
0:08:21 > 0:08:26with the right-wing party in Parliament. The last option would be
0:08:26 > 0:08:30another round of elections, snap elections.It is very rare that the
0:08:30 > 0:08:34same leader goes to the same electorate and does better in such a
0:08:34 > 0:08:39short space of time, do you think she would go back to the polls is it
0:08:39 > 0:08:46a double bluff?Well, it seems that her personally, she seems to prefer
0:08:46 > 0:08:50doing another round of elections to having a minority government. It is
0:08:50 > 0:08:55true that the big concern would be whether we actually get another
0:08:55 > 0:08:59outcome, which is somewhat unlikely, they may be some shifts but it is
0:08:59 > 0:09:04unlikely she will win a stronger majority. If we have another round
0:09:04 > 0:09:08of elections, that would be in spring, early spring, we might end
0:09:08 > 0:09:12up with the result that is very similar to what we have today and
0:09:12 > 0:09:22then we can repeat the whole process. I will ask you to place
0:09:22 > 0:09:24your bets, do you think that Angela Merkel will remain the German
0:09:24 > 0:09:29Chancellor? Yes. I would put money on that, absolutely.We are talking
0:09:29 > 0:09:33about the arrangement in which she governs. Thank you very much.
0:09:33 > 0:09:39Mark Urban is back and our political editor, Nick Watt joins us.
0:09:39 > 0:09:43At the moment there is all this follows and we do not really feel
0:09:43 > 0:09:48like a priority and even though we are talking about the divorce
0:09:48 > 0:09:52settlement, is anyone listening?The UK ministers, they have agreed to at
0:09:52 > 0:09:57the 20 billion euros on the table, no figure will be mentioned, no
0:09:57 > 0:10:00figure is meant to be mentioned at all during the process but it looks
0:10:00 > 0:10:04like that 20 billion will double as Theresa May puts flesh on the bones
0:10:04 > 0:10:17of what she meant in her speech in Florence which he said the UK
0:10:25 > 0:10:28would honour its commitments as a past member of the EU. The key thing
0:10:28 > 0:10:31she said today was that the UK and EU have to jump together. The UK
0:10:31 > 0:10:33will not agree to this new money unless the EU talks about the
0:10:33 > 0:10:35transition period. And the future trade relationship. I spoke to a
0:10:35 > 0:10:38leading Brexiteer who said he is buoyant and relaxed about this, but
0:10:38 > 0:10:40I spoke to former Cabinet minister who said we should not be offering
0:10:40 > 0:10:43more money and this former Cabinet minister, look at the front page,
0:10:43 > 0:10:48this former Cabinet minister said to me that the UK should be trying to
0:10:48 > 0:10:53make something of Germany's political difficulties. This person
0:10:53 > 0:10:58said to me, Europe and Germany are in paralysis, there is a great
0:10:58 > 0:11:02opportunity for the UK to set the agenda.No greater opportunity than
0:11:02 > 0:11:06a crisis. Do you think this new amount of money will be enough to
0:11:06 > 0:11:12make Germany reach for whatever they can?A lot of people that you talked
0:11:12 > 0:11:17to say that this is about the money. Recently, I think the
0:11:17 > 0:11:21three-dimensional chess has got harder with the winding end of the
0:11:21 > 0:11:24Irish border question. It was always there as one of the three key
0:11:24 > 0:11:29separation issues but it has now been explicitly stated by some of
0:11:29 > 0:11:33the senior Europeans that this has got to be sorted before they go on
0:11:33 > 0:11:36to discuss the wider relationship and really it has got to be sorted
0:11:36 > 0:11:44before the summit is expected on the 14th of December. It went from being
0:11:44 > 0:11:47just the money question where this might well have been enough to move
0:11:47 > 0:11:51things forward and make substantial progress to the Irish question as
0:11:51 > 0:11:55well and that is really complicated now and if I had to bet, I would say
0:11:55 > 0:12:00we will not be there by the 14th of December.If I asked you whether the
0:12:00 > 0:12:08negotiations coming up are, where do we start?It is interesting, Michel
0:12:08 > 0:12:12Barnier, had some pretty tough language about the Irish border in a
0:12:12 > 0:12:17speech today and also he showed he has been thinking very carefully
0:12:17 > 0:12:21about the future trade relationship. That Cabinet subcommittee today
0:12:21 > 0:12:25talked about that but the whole Cabinet has not talked about it yet
0:12:25 > 0:12:28and Michel Barnier was essentially saying we are up for a really
0:12:28 > 0:12:32ambitious free trade agreement with the UK but there has to be a level
0:12:32 > 0:12:38playing field. If the UK, as the Chancellor has said decides to go
0:12:38 > 0:12:48down the Singapore route and deregulate
0:12:55 > 0:12:58that would not be a level playing field and the relationship would
0:12:58 > 0:13:00have to be quite distant.The Speaker in your piece was talking
0:13:00 > 0:13:03about a robust approach from Germany, by the feeling more or less
0:13:03 > 0:13:05robust now? They have been very much so in recent weeks. One hears that
0:13:05 > 0:13:08they have even been talking in very rough terms about a figure that they
0:13:08 > 0:13:11want to see, even though as you said, all of what we heard publicly
0:13:11 > 0:13:14by Michel Barnier was that they were not after an actual figure. They
0:13:14 > 0:13:16have been extremely tough, the question is now, with Angela Merkel
0:13:16 > 0:13:18in this crisis, will they hold out. Probably the default position
0:13:18 > 0:13:23because of the difficulties of negotiating within the 27 is not to
0:13:23 > 0:13:32move, rather than to let up.Thank you both very much.
0:13:32 > 0:13:35Perhaps no one should be surprised that a dictator who swore he'd rule
0:13:35 > 0:13:37to the age of 100 wasn't prepared to go quietly at 93.
0:13:37 > 0:13:40Impeachment proceedings are about to begin against Robert Mugagbe,
0:13:40 > 0:13:43Perhaps no one should be surprised that a dictator who swore he'd rule
0:13:43 > 0:13:45Impeachment proceedings are about to begin against Robert Mugagbe,
0:13:45 > 0:13:47the Zimbabwean President who led his country to believe he
0:13:47 > 0:13:49was about to step down last night.
0:13:49 > 0:13:52And then conveniently left that part out of his long, rambling speech
0:13:52 > 0:13:53on the world's stage.
0:13:53 > 0:13:55His party, Zanu-PF, who've led the process
0:13:55 > 0:13:57to remove their leader of 37 years, say they'll start impeachment
0:13:57 > 0:14:04proceedings and the whole process could be over within two days.
0:14:04 > 0:14:07Outside Parliament students hit the streets and boycotted their exams
0:14:07 > 0:14:12demanding the man who is the only President they have ever known to
0:14:12 > 0:14:19step down.We are sick and tired.We want him to resign. We want change,
0:14:19 > 0:14:23the Constitution should change.But perhaps the strongest criticism came
0:14:23 > 0:14:27from the group that used to be his big supporters, the War veterans
0:14:27 > 0:14:37group.Robert Mugabe, go now, your time is up, please leave statehouse
0:14:37 > 0:14:40and let the country start on a new page.
0:14:40 > 0:14:42Well, a draft motion of the impeachment document has been
0:14:42 > 0:14:45leaked and it blames Mr Mugabe for what it calls an "unprecedented
0:14:45 > 0:14:46economic tailspin".
0:14:46 > 0:14:49Zanu-PF say he is too old rule and that he has allowed his wife
0:14:49 > 0:14:52Grace to usurp constitutional power.
0:14:52 > 0:14:53All bold claims.
0:14:53 > 0:14:55So what will happen next?
0:14:55 > 0:14:59I spoke earlier to Priscila Misihairabwi-Mushonga an MP
0:14:59 > 0:15:01from the opposition party, the Movement for Democratic Change.
0:15:01 > 0:15:04She told me that the impeachment process can only happen
0:15:04 > 0:15:04with their help.
0:15:10 > 0:15:12If the impeachment process is given what is in the Constitution,
0:15:12 > 0:15:14yes, it can certainly happen by Wednesday.
0:15:14 > 0:15:20But it can only happen with the cooperation
0:15:20 > 0:15:23of the opposition and to use this opportunity to then put the demands
0:15:23 > 0:15:26and the things we have been struggling over,
0:15:26 > 0:15:30to then say, for example, we need to demand that we put
0:15:30 > 0:15:38into place the reforms that will allow a free and fair election.
0:15:38 > 0:15:41Because we cannot have the situation in which the military is so linked
0:15:41 > 0:15:42to a political party.
0:15:42 > 0:15:45The reason why the military intervened had nothing to do
0:15:45 > 0:15:48with the issues that bothered the people of Zimbabwe.
0:15:48 > 0:15:52It had to do with the fact that the military took a position
0:15:52 > 0:15:54around the particular factions and that cannot be
0:15:54 > 0:16:04allowed to happen.
0:16:05 > 0:16:09Nick Mangwana, the Zanu-PF spokesperson in London joins me now.
0:16:09 > 0:16:16The last time you were here you told me he would be gone in two days.He
0:16:16 > 0:16:19writes his own script and what the people of Zimbabwe are trying to do
0:16:19 > 0:16:23is to make sure that he would not have that prerogative all the time
0:16:23 > 0:16:30and every time until this is played out.You are pretty upbeat, you put
0:16:30 > 0:16:33him under house arrest and he did not want to stay and that and you
0:16:33 > 0:16:38asked to deliver a resignation speech and he did not resign and now
0:16:38 > 0:16:45he is going to be impeached.Yes, he is going to be impeached. 210 MPs
0:16:45 > 0:16:53were in the Senate and that is a big number. We need about 234 to push
0:16:53 > 0:16:58the motion through.You talk as if he actually abides by constitutional
0:16:58 > 0:17:03rules. Your whole impeachment process is about the fact he does
0:17:03 > 0:17:08not abide by the Constitution, so what makes you think he will listen
0:17:08 > 0:17:14to 234 people?He does abide by the Constitution.What has he got to
0:17:14 > 0:17:22lose?Once the parliament says he is impeached, what is done is done. At
0:17:22 > 0:17:28the moment people respect the authority of the office. Once the
0:17:28 > 0:17:33constitution has declared he is no longer holding the authority of the
0:17:33 > 0:17:38office that is done.Are you willing to use violence to remove them?No,
0:17:38 > 0:17:44absolutely not.If he carries on turning up to work Day after day and
0:17:44 > 0:17:50has the office of President around him...?He does not work like that.
0:17:50 > 0:17:57If he claims to be president, what you are avoiding right now is
0:17:57 > 0:18:02persuading another president because that will be committing treason.You
0:18:02 > 0:18:11will be prepared to swearing a general, the vice president who
0:18:11 > 0:18:16stepped down, you will be prepared to swear him in even if Mugabe does
0:18:16 > 0:18:21not accept resignation?Yes.You could end up with two men in office
0:18:21 > 0:18:25believing they are president?We will end up with one claiming to be
0:18:25 > 0:18:31president. If he does make a claim to be president, then he is the one
0:18:31 > 0:18:35who has committed treason and we will deal with him.Do you think you
0:18:35 > 0:18:42underestimated his willingness to go?Everyone underestimated
0:18:42 > 0:18:49President Mugabe stepping down.You have known him a long time.He has
0:18:49 > 0:18:54been ruling as for many years.What is interesting for the world looking
0:18:54 > 0:19:01in is they do not say Zanu-PF realise they had a corrupt dictator
0:19:01 > 0:19:05at that time and they are going to change it around, you are carrying
0:19:05 > 0:19:12on transition as if it were seamless. You have stuck by his
0:19:12 > 0:19:16abuses as Vice President?Know it needs a lot of reform and that will
0:19:16 > 0:19:20happen. At the centre of this whole thing is corruption. If you listen
0:19:20 > 0:19:27to the statement that was made by the general it was corruption and
0:19:27 > 0:19:31corruption.Why should the people in Zimbabwe believe that the party that
0:19:31 > 0:19:35has supported Mugabe for 37 years is the party that is willing to root
0:19:35 > 0:19:41out corruption?They should have shown their teeth much earlier than
0:19:41 > 0:19:46this, but we are here now and we are showing teeth. We deserve more
0:19:46 > 0:19:49credit for it.Thank you very much.
0:19:49 > 0:19:51The cult leader and serial killer Charles Manson fascinated
0:19:51 > 0:19:54and appalled America.
0:19:54 > 0:19:57Like so many of its criminals he gained a kind of rock star status.
0:19:57 > 0:19:58Perhaps he was crazy.
0:19:58 > 0:20:05Perhaps he was evil.
0:20:05 > 0:20:07Perhaps he was just a pathetic and dull.
0:20:07 > 0:20:10The man who believed he was Jesus and once claimed he died 2,000
0:20:10 > 0:20:12years ago was finally pronounced dead today.
0:20:12 > 0:20:14Stephen Smith looks back on his life and crimes.
0:20:14 > 0:20:17If it wasn't so dark and squalid, the story of Charles Manson might
0:20:17 > 0:20:20have something of the Wizard of Oz about it.
0:20:20 > 0:20:23The pathetic figure who pulled the strings and exerted such
0:20:23 > 0:20:27an unfathomable hold over the susceptible.
0:20:27 > 0:20:30Charles Manson was raised in prison for more than half of his life
0:20:30 > 0:20:34before he started the Manson Family cult and he learned how
0:20:34 > 0:20:37to manipulate people.
0:20:37 > 0:20:41He became a master manipulator and he fashioned himself
0:20:41 > 0:20:45as kind of an outlaw, counterculture hero,
0:20:45 > 0:20:49and he melded together this group of people that became like a family
0:20:49 > 0:20:56and he controlled them like puppets.
0:20:56 > 0:20:58He weaponised them.
0:20:58 > 0:21:00He craved attention, a wannabe rock star.
0:21:00 > 0:21:05He and his followers once lived at the home
0:21:05 > 0:21:07of Dennis Wilson of the Beach Boys.
0:21:07 > 0:21:10The band even recorded a version of a song written by Manson.
0:21:10 > 0:21:13He looked like a hippy and set up home at a ranch
0:21:13 > 0:21:16in Death Valley, California, with his acolytes who became known
0:21:16 > 0:21:19as the Manson Family.
0:21:19 > 0:21:26Often young women from middle-class families who had dropped out.
0:21:26 > 0:21:29But the brutal murder of the actress Sharon Tate,
0:21:29 > 0:21:32Roman Polanski's wife, and three of her friends in August
0:21:32 > 0:21:381969 was seen by some as a macabre coda to the Summer of Love.
0:21:38 > 0:21:41It was followed by more killings the next night.
0:21:41 > 0:21:45Detectives believe Manson hoped to trigger a race war,
0:21:45 > 0:21:49a phenomenon he called Helter Skelter after a Beatles song,
0:21:49 > 0:21:58and that he would somehow emerge from the chaos as a messiah figure.
0:21:58 > 0:22:01There followed one of the longest and strangest criminal
0:22:01 > 0:22:04trials in US history, Manson's followers singing
0:22:04 > 0:22:08outside the court.
0:22:08 > 0:22:11The authorities insisted Manson was the guiding
0:22:11 > 0:22:14hand behind the murders, though he was never accused
0:22:14 > 0:22:21of striking a single blow himself.
0:22:21 > 0:22:28I don't accept the whole situation.
0:22:28 > 0:22:31I was in the desert minding my own business.
0:22:31 > 0:22:34This confusion belongs to you, your confusion.
0:22:34 > 0:22:37I don't have a deal, I know what I have done.
0:22:37 > 0:22:38I judge me.
0:22:38 > 0:22:39What have you done, Charlie?
0:22:39 > 0:22:42In an extraordinary interview from prison, Manson was still toying
0:22:42 > 0:22:43with his interrogators.
0:22:43 > 0:22:46Here is your chance before the whole world to tell it
0:22:46 > 0:22:47straight once and for all.
0:22:47 > 0:22:48Did you do that?
0:22:48 > 0:22:51Did I kill anyone?
0:22:51 > 0:22:54No, did you go in and tie them up them that night?
0:22:54 > 0:22:55Very simple question.
0:22:55 > 0:22:57That night.
0:22:57 > 0:22:59August 10th, 1969.
0:22:59 > 0:23:01That night, August the 10th 1969.
0:23:01 > 0:23:02Did you?
0:23:02 > 0:23:06Why dodge it?
0:23:06 > 0:23:10Why not answer yes or no once and for all and put it behind you?
0:23:10 > 0:23:13Why don't you want to talk about it, Charles?
0:23:13 > 0:23:19Because I'm an outlaw and I go so far and that's all you know.
0:23:19 > 0:23:22Manson was sentenced to death row, though his sentence was later
0:23:22 > 0:23:24commuted to life imprisonment.
0:23:24 > 0:23:31Even behind bars he was not finished as a cult phenomenon.
0:23:31 > 0:23:36Not for nothing did the one-time Brian Warner give himself the stage
0:23:36 > 0:23:39name Marilyn Manson and rockers Guns N' Roses cover a Charles Manson
0:23:39 > 0:23:42song, gestures of rebellion or poor taste according
0:23:42 > 0:23:47to your point of view.
0:23:47 > 0:23:51He became a popular figure while in prison.
0:23:51 > 0:23:54He received more fan mail than any other United States inmate
0:23:54 > 0:23:59in the prison system at one period.
0:23:59 > 0:24:02Before they changed the law he accumulated over $200,000,
0:24:02 > 0:24:10selling memorabilia and whatnot because of his infamy.
0:24:10 > 0:24:13And like other notorious killers Manson was not short of women
0:24:13 > 0:24:17who wanted to visit him.
0:24:17 > 0:24:21I always say it is easier to get a date with Charles Manson
0:24:21 > 0:24:24or Scott Peterson than it is with Brad Pitt or George Clooney.
0:24:24 > 0:24:29The only type of people in our society who are celebrities
0:24:29 > 0:24:36are either bona fide celebrities or notorious killers and criminals.
0:24:36 > 0:24:41So these women are basically looking for their 15 minutes of fame.
0:24:41 > 0:24:44Were you happy when you found out you were not going to go
0:24:44 > 0:24:46to the gas chamber, Charles?
0:24:46 > 0:24:49I knew I wasn't going to go to the gas chamber because I hadn't
0:24:49 > 0:24:51done anything wrong.
0:24:51 > 0:24:55Are you scared to die?
0:24:55 > 0:24:59Sometimes I feel I'm scared to live.
0:24:59 > 0:25:02Living is what scares me.
0:25:02 > 0:25:08Dying is easy.
0:25:08 > 0:25:08Stephen Smith.
0:25:08 > 0:25:10Stephen Smith.
0:25:10 > 0:25:12"We now know we were wrong," the high street stationers
0:25:12 > 0:25:14Paperchase wrote to customers today.
0:25:14 > 0:25:16"We are truly sorry and won't ever do it again."
0:25:16 > 0:25:18Their crime?
0:25:18 > 0:25:19An advertising campaign over the weekend that
0:25:19 > 0:25:22ran in the Daily Mail.
0:25:22 > 0:25:24Readers of that paper were offered two free rolls of wrapping
0:25:24 > 0:25:26paper by Paperchase.
0:25:26 > 0:25:29But the promotion was spotted by online activist group
0:25:29 > 0:25:31Stop Funding Hate which targets companies advertising in the Sun,
0:25:31 > 0:25:33Express and Mail, arguing that they promote divisive
0:25:33 > 0:25:37and hateful views.
0:25:37 > 0:25:41Stop Funding Hate has now commended Paperchase for its change of heart.
0:25:41 > 0:25:43The apology when it came from Paperchase
0:25:43 > 0:25:47was fullsome and earnest.
0:25:47 > 0:25:49We've listened to you about this weekend's promotion.
0:25:49 > 0:25:51We now know we were wrong to do this.
0:25:51 > 0:25:53We're truly sorry and we won't ever do it again.
0:25:53 > 0:25:55Thanks for telling us what you really think
0:25:55 > 0:25:59and we apologise if we have let you down on this one.
0:25:59 > 0:26:00Lesson learnt.
0:26:00 > 0:26:02What was this then?
0:26:02 > 0:26:05A victory for the little people?
0:26:05 > 0:26:06All those customers unhappy with the way Paperchase
0:26:06 > 0:26:14was doing business?
0:26:14 > 0:26:17A professional boycott along the lines of apartheid in the 1980s?
0:26:17 > 0:26:19A professional boycott along the lines of apartheid in the 1980s?
0:26:19 > 0:26:22Or a robust attempt at online bullying, not of an individual,
0:26:22 > 0:26:23but of a corporation?
0:26:23 > 0:26:26The group behind this protest is Stop Funding Hate.
0:26:26 > 0:26:28It works to change the media by taking on what it
0:26:28 > 0:26:29calls hate campaigns.
0:26:29 > 0:26:32Recently they've accused the Daily Mail of a torrid few
0:26:32 > 0:26:33weeks of divisive stories about trans people.
0:26:33 > 0:26:35They congratulated Paperchase today for pulling out and promoted
0:26:35 > 0:26:41the apology to followers on Twitter, many of whom have followed suit.
0:26:41 > 0:26:44But the Paperchase statement may have lost them equal
0:26:44 > 0:26:46numbers of customers, who've written their own disgust
0:26:46 > 0:26:49that the shop has been cowed into today's position by agressive
0:26:49 > 0:26:57pressure from a small group of activists and said
0:26:57 > 0:27:00In the run up to Christmas, the relationship Paperchase has
0:27:00 > 0:27:02with its customers is likely to be vital.
0:27:02 > 0:27:04It's unclear yet whether there will be net gains.
0:27:04 > 0:27:07But if it was publicity the company was aiming for,
0:27:07 > 0:27:11then like it or loathe it, they've got themselves talked about.
0:27:11 > 0:27:14Well, Paperchase told this programme tonight that they frequently trial
0:27:14 > 0:27:17new brand campaigns and have taken the commercial decision not
0:27:17 > 0:27:19to repeat this promotion following significant levels
0:27:19 > 0:27:22of feedback from customers in store and online.
0:27:22 > 0:27:26And the Mail have put out a statement complaining that
0:27:26 > 0:27:29Paperchase has allowed itself to be bullied by a small group of hard
0:27:29 > 0:27:32left, Corbynist individuals.
0:27:32 > 0:27:34Joining me now, Sarah Baxter, deputy editor of the Sunday Times.
0:27:34 > 0:27:39And Richard Wilson from Stop Funding Hate.
0:27:39 > 0:27:45Lovely to have you both here. I guess this is political activism at
0:27:45 > 0:27:50its best, a company listening to the concerns of its customers and
0:27:50 > 0:27:53changing?Absolutely not, it is a company being bullied by a small
0:27:53 > 0:28:00army of Twitter and social media patrols, using activism as a weapon
0:28:00 > 0:28:05against the free press. It is a very sad day for Independent media.That
0:28:05 > 0:28:11his activism, that is what it does, it tries to change the world?Paper
0:28:11 > 0:28:17chase has blundered into accepting the word of a few Twitter patrols
0:28:17 > 0:28:22that Mauro less than 2 million readers of the Daily Mail on
0:28:22 > 0:28:26Saturday I somehow racists, bigots and hate mongers. I am sure Paper
0:28:26 > 0:28:31chase does not want to get involved in that kind of political war.It is
0:28:31 > 0:28:36an online version of bullying, that you are inviting people to tweet
0:28:36 > 0:28:41hateful things to a corporation instead of a person?The core
0:28:41 > 0:28:49concern is that experts have warned that the hate in some of the biggest
0:28:49 > 0:28:53newspapers is fuelling hate crime on the streets and this is not just
0:28:53 > 0:28:58stuff people find offensive and disagreeable, this is having a real
0:28:58 > 0:29:01impact in people's lives. If you look at what Stop Funding Hate
0:29:01 > 0:29:06supporters were saying and Paper chase supporters were saying online,
0:29:06 > 0:29:13they were very friendly and polite. This is an idiotic argument. What
0:29:13 > 0:29:18Richard and his group is doing is spending all day trawling through
0:29:18 > 0:29:21newspapers that they themselves would never read or pay for
0:29:21 > 0:29:24otherwise to find things they are outraged and offended by so that
0:29:24 > 0:29:31they can deploy social media to harass advertisers into withdrawing
0:29:31 > 0:29:37their support for a free press. Newspapers have always depended on
0:29:37 > 0:29:42advertising and the honest pound in your pocket from the readers to
0:29:42 > 0:29:46publish. What he is really trying to do is close down these newspapers by
0:29:46 > 0:29:52destroying their source of funding. Do you deny that?We do not do that.
0:29:52 > 0:29:57Why not if you do not like them as a mark maybe you are trying to close
0:29:57 > 0:30:02them down.The end result is four as the media that does what we want
0:30:02 > 0:30:08them to do, that upholds the public interest.You and your activists
0:30:08 > 0:30:12want to decide what the people of Britain can read or not, that is
0:30:12 > 0:30:18very arrogant. It is very wrong for democracy.The key point is that
0:30:18 > 0:30:22people are being harmed. We had a hate crime report from the
0:30:22 > 0:30:29University of Leicester warning that the media has been fuelling...I am
0:30:29 > 0:30:39sorry, the University of Leicester decides what people have to read?
0:30:39 > 0:30:44You are setting the moral compass and choosing the ethical standards.
0:30:44 > 0:30:51If you decide Brexit, if you decided Brexit was bad or immigration levels
0:30:51 > 0:30:55or that feminist concern about self identifying men are bad, then you
0:30:55 > 0:31:00choose what stories are what papers to boycott. That is how this works,
0:31:00 > 0:31:06isn't it?The only reason I am here is that over the weekend thousands
0:31:06 > 0:31:13of paper chase customers use their freedom of speech and expression to
0:31:13 > 0:31:21make... And they use their freedom of choice to decide to advertise
0:31:21 > 0:31:26differently. We are all about freedom.You write for The Sunday
0:31:26 > 0:31:30Times, do you think the Daily Mail will start changing its editorial
0:31:30 > 0:31:35stance? If people like paper chase and others, because it goes down the
0:31:35 > 0:31:41list, it was Lego and other companies, if they start pulling
0:31:41 > 0:31:45their advertising, does the Daily Mail change the way it write
0:31:45 > 0:31:51stories?No, it won't and nor should it. What we need in this country is
0:31:51 > 0:31:57a plurality of views and different newspapers. I hold no particular
0:31:57 > 0:32:02candle, I am not representing the Daily Mail or any other newspaper, I
0:32:02 > 0:32:06am representing the fact that we have a free press that represents an
0:32:06 > 0:32:11enormous range of opinion and people pay their money and choose what they
0:32:11 > 0:32:17want to read. Richer has decided he should be the arbiter of what people
0:32:17 > 0:32:21should read?If they were never going to advertise their again, they
0:32:21 > 0:32:25just got free publicity, the Daily Mail will not change either.Paper
0:32:25 > 0:32:29chase made a decision and they have every right to make that decision,
0:32:29 > 0:32:33for whatever reason they want. Advertisers are looking at this will
0:32:33 > 0:32:39be wary of getting embroiled in this sort of thing because paper chase
0:32:39 > 0:32:44have basically blundered, they are in the middle of a culture war and
0:32:44 > 0:32:48that is not a place where you want commercial brands to be. Newspapers
0:32:48 > 0:32:53have always valued their editorial independence from advertisers, it is
0:32:53 > 0:32:57not right that advertisers call the editorial line of the paper,
0:32:57 > 0:33:00advertisers can choose to be in a paper they feel comfortable in.
0:33:00 > 0:33:05There is an irony that there is nowhere more hate filled than
0:33:05 > 0:33:12Twitter itself, which is very quick to tell people just however they are
0:33:12 > 0:33:16being about whatever they choose to be, so why would tend to choose that
0:33:16 > 0:33:26as a vehicle to do this?There is a climate of hate and parts of our
0:33:26 > 0:33:29media -- Stop Funding Hate. It is important when we talk about these
0:33:29 > 0:33:33issues, we talk about it in a respectful way.Do you think this
0:33:33 > 0:33:38will hurt or help paper chase?I think they have made a smart
0:33:38 > 0:33:42decision.Lego was rewarded for the decision they made. I do not think
0:33:42 > 0:33:47it was smart, I think it is a very uncomfortable place for a commercial
0:33:47 > 0:33:52brand to find itself in, where it has bowed to the wishes of a small
0:33:52 > 0:33:59number of people against what possibly as a silent majority.Thank
0:33:59 > 0:34:03you.
0:34:03 > 0:34:06Two major European agencies were relocated from London this
0:34:06 > 0:34:08evening as part of the process of extracting Britain from the EU.
0:34:08 > 0:34:11The European Banking Authority will now be housed in Paris,
0:34:11 > 0:34:13the European Medicines Agency will be moved to Amsterdam.
0:34:13 > 0:34:16The move will mean Britain no longer has control or involvement in either
0:34:16 > 0:34:17of these insitutions.
0:34:17 > 0:34:19As our Business editor Helen Thomas reports,
0:34:19 > 0:34:22the shift will also mean Britain has to find a whole new system
0:34:22 > 0:34:24of licensing and approving which medicines can be used
0:34:24 > 0:34:34here in the UK and how quickly they can become available.
0:34:36 > 0:34:42A convoluted voting system, a bit of horse trading between countries and
0:34:42 > 0:34:46a slightly uncertain reward. It has been described as the business
0:34:46 > 0:34:50version of the Eurovision Song contest, but the European medicines
0:34:50 > 0:34:56agency and the European banking authority now have a new home. After
0:34:56 > 0:35:0119 submissions, three rounds of voting and a virtual dead heat, the
0:35:01 > 0:35:10EMS will leave London for Amsterdam, the bank regulators are headed for
0:35:10 > 0:35:15Paris. E MA was seen as the bigger prize. This is a therapy unit at Guy
0:35:15 > 0:35:19's Hospital, regulators can mean a cluster of expertise and scientific
0:35:19 > 0:35:22know-how that could ultimately attract businesses to the successful
0:35:22 > 0:35:30city. From the UK's point of view we are talking about maybe 900 jobs at
0:35:30 > 0:35:33the medicines agency and a couple of hundred at the banking regulator but
0:35:33 > 0:35:38they are highly skilled roles and in sectors the UK likes to think it is
0:35:38 > 0:35:44pretty good at. Back in April, David Davis suggested that subject to some
0:35:44 > 0:35:48negotiation, the agencies could stay in London. Now it seems they are
0:35:48 > 0:35:53definitely off, so what does that mean for the UK and what might take
0:35:53 > 0:36:06their place? For the pharmaceutical industry body, the departure of the
0:36:06 > 0:36:08regulator could leave a golf that causes other problems.The industry
0:36:08 > 0:36:11as £30 million worth of GDP to the economy with the highest research
0:36:11 > 0:36:13and development spend on the economy. There are several concerns
0:36:13 > 0:36:16with the uncertainty that we have around Brexit. We could see delays
0:36:16 > 0:36:21of up to one year in the approval of new medicines and we could also see
0:36:21 > 0:36:25some of the processes that require certainty about regulation moving
0:36:25 > 0:36:31out of the UK unless we get a medicines cooperation soon.Winning
0:36:31 > 0:36:35the banking authority was perhaps more a matter of prestige than
0:36:35 > 0:36:39business, at least in the short-term. One European financier
0:36:39 > 0:36:45told Newsnight that the EBA just spent a veneer of credibility for
0:36:45 > 0:36:49Paris aims to bolster itself as a financial centre. In London, the
0:36:49 > 0:36:55departure of the EBA is seen as symbolic, but unlikely in itself to
0:36:55 > 0:37:01dent the city's heft and finance.It is really a coordinator amongst
0:37:01 > 0:37:06regulators and we have got extremely strong regulators of global calibre
0:37:06 > 0:37:09already writing rules and interpreting and applying those
0:37:09 > 0:37:16rules. In fact, what it does is allow the UK to do things more its
0:37:16 > 0:37:20own weight which is frankly safer for the markets systemically. So
0:37:20 > 0:37:24that our regulators can make more dynamic adjustments are more dynamic
0:37:24 > 0:37:32of refinements to the rules of the UK.For others, the agencies are
0:37:32 > 0:37:39about more than a few hundred jobs and a European rule book.The EBA
0:37:39 > 0:37:43and EMA are tremendous gatherers of people and it is a great place to
0:37:43 > 0:37:49meet people, clients and share ideas and I think that that loss of power
0:37:49 > 0:37:57or soft influence will be something that the UK will feel.How will
0:37:57 > 0:38:01medicines be checked and approved after March, 2019? Will the city
0:38:01 > 0:38:06have a deal that is roughly the status quo or have to operate quite
0:38:06 > 0:38:11differently? As Europe makes decisions in its own unique way, it
0:38:11 > 0:38:17highlights unanswered questions at home.
0:38:17 > 0:38:22Helen Thomas there. He had seen the front page of The Times, there are a
0:38:22 > 0:38:27couple more, the Guardian and the Telegraph Brexit stories. The
0:38:27 > 0:38:32Guardian has. A claim that a pro-Brexit group broke rules during
0:38:32 > 0:38:41the referendum campaign. Vote leave is under investigation. And there is
0:38:41 > 0:38:45quite a nice story on the Telegraph which is that Eurotunnel has changed
0:38:45 > 0:38:51its name to create a more Anglo-Saxon identity. Eurotunnel has
0:38:51 > 0:38:54decided to call itself yet linked as part of a corporate rebranding
0:38:54 > 0:39:00exercise before Brexit, the French company which runs it wants it to
0:39:00 > 0:39:05adapt an Anglo-Saxon name as it expanded.
0:39:05 > 0:39:08That's all from us, but before we go, on the 20th November 1937,
0:39:08 > 0:39:10under grey skies and cheered on by thousands of well-wishers,
0:39:10 > 0:39:12Princess Elizabeth married Lieutenant Philip Mountbatten.
0:39:12 > 0:39:14Today, exactly 70 years later, the Queen and Prince Philip
0:39:14 > 0:39:16are celebrating their platinum wedding anniversary.
0:39:16 > 0:39:18Back then remember, Britain's relationship with the rest of Europe
0:39:18 > 0:39:19was about to change dramatically.
0:39:19 > 0:39:21The Conservative Prime Minister was engaging in crucial talks
0:39:21 > 0:39:24on the continent while facing mutiny from his own ranks back home.
0:39:24 > 0:39:27And Spain was in crisis as warring factions fought for control.
0:39:27 > 0:39:29But some things don't change, including these grey skies.
0:39:29 > 0:39:31Here are some pictures from that 1937 day.
0:39:31 > 0:39:35Goodnight.
0:39:35 > 0:39:45BELLS RING.
0:39:49 > 0:39:51Into the dull November morning, two grays draw the Irish stagecoach.
0:39:51 > 0:39:54Inside, her Royal Highness, Princess Elizabeth and her father.
0:39:54 > 0:39:57And now the solemn service begins.
0:39:57 > 0:40:02# The quiet waters by...#.
0:40:02 > 0:40:12THE WEDDING MARCH.
0:40:15 > 0:40:17From the palace balcony, Elizabeth and her husband waved
0:40:17 > 0:40:18to the cheering crowds.
0:40:18 > 0:40:20The nation and the Commonwealth will pray that the young
0:40:20 > 0:40:22couple may enjoy a long, happy and fruitful life.