:00:25. > :00:28.Will come. Later in the programme, these two men have made it through
:00:28. > :00:32.to the run-off in the French presidential election. Shouldn't we
:00:32. > :00:35.agree on how to pronounce their names?
:00:35. > :00:40.First, two weeks since the breakfast programme took up their
:00:40. > :00:44.new home in Salford. Some of viewers have objected to the look
:00:44. > :00:54.of the programme's new studio. Others question the value and the
:00:54. > :01:01.
:01:01. > :01:06.It is almost -- it is almost a decade since the idea since the new
:01:06. > :01:10.location was decided on. But the transfer of the One Show has been
:01:10. > :01:14.the biggest step yet. Around half of the breakfast team offered to
:01:14. > :01:18.make the move but presenter's Sean Williams and Chris Holland's
:01:18. > :01:28.decided to leave the programme. There were many objections voiced
:01:28. > :02:04.
:02:04. > :02:10.It made possible that the colours and camera angles at not liked, but
:02:10. > :02:14.viewers will have to get used to it. Is that a welcome and economical
:02:14. > :02:18.devolution of an overly Metropolitan BBC? Or an extravagant
:02:18. > :02:23.and it damaging example of political correctness?
:02:23. > :02:26.I will be putting that to the man who oversaw Breakfast moved to
:02:26. > :02:32.Salford, Adam Bullimore. Before that, let's hear the views of two
:02:33. > :02:37.more few hours. Jonathan Evans and end Keith. First of all, end, what
:02:37. > :02:42.do you make of the move of breakfast to Salford, and has it
:02:42. > :02:47.affected your viewing? I think it was totally unnecessary. I think
:02:47. > :02:52.the BBC is a national broadcaster and a think if it moved to a region
:02:52. > :02:56.for its main output, it stands the risk -- it runs the risk of being a
:02:56. > :03:01.regional broadcaster instead of a national broadcaster. How do you
:03:01. > :03:07.think the move has affected Breakfast itself. I think the
:03:07. > :03:15.studio set-up is rather cramped. It is not as pleasant as the London
:03:15. > :03:20.set-up. Also, were the quality of presentation has declined. Do you
:03:20. > :03:25.think that too many down the lines as opposed to it live guest makes a
:03:26. > :03:30.difference? Yes, I do. Because when politicians were able to come into
:03:30. > :03:35.the studio, it seemed much more immediate. The interviewers were
:03:35. > :03:40.able to approach them in a much more direct way. Just then, what
:03:40. > :03:46.have you made of the move? I would just agree with the last few were.
:03:46. > :03:50.I think it is a bad mistake. I think London is a world centre, not
:03:50. > :03:57.just an UK centre. I think the programme should be located in
:03:57. > :04:01.London. Long-term, I think it will affect the quality of the programme.
:04:01. > :04:05.I think all the news programmes should be consolidated in one
:04:06. > :04:13.centre in London. I do think they should be in Manchester. You might
:04:13. > :04:18.as well have put it in Edinburgh or in Dublin. It needs to be in London.
:04:18. > :04:22.What do you think of the argument that the BBC is to metropolitan
:04:22. > :04:27.biased and this is a move to recognise the rest of the country?
:04:27. > :04:32.I don't agree with it comes to a programme, a news centric programme.
:04:32. > :04:37.It should be located where the centre of the news is. London is a
:04:37. > :04:42.worldwide centre, not just a UK centre. I think it has cost too
:04:42. > :04:49.much money. It has been wasted. wide you think it has cost too
:04:49. > :04:52.much? Why do think it is a waste? The BBC management made a big
:04:52. > :04:59.mistake because they are trying to cut costs and at the same time,
:04:59. > :05:04.they spend �200 million relocating to Manchester. They also spend �80
:05:04. > :05:07.million on redundancies and retraining. They lost 54% of the
:05:07. > :05:16.team for Breakfast. What is the point? It is just a political
:05:16. > :05:23.gesture. End, do you miss the presenters? Yes, I think the
:05:23. > :05:27.present presenter's are not as serious as she was on many
:05:27. > :05:32.occasions. I heard her do some very good interviews which I have not
:05:32. > :05:41.heard from the current team up with the exception of Charlie state and
:05:41. > :05:45.Phil Turnbull. Thank you very much. Adam Bullimore is the deputy editor
:05:45. > :05:51.of Breakfast. I know you are not responsible for the decision, but
:05:51. > :05:55.at least in that physical terms, how well as the move on? I think it
:05:55. > :06:00.has gone amazingly well. It is a hugely complex business moving a
:06:00. > :06:05.three-hour network news programme a bike Breakfast 200 miles away from
:06:05. > :06:12.the mother ship, if you like. And to be three weeks in and to have
:06:12. > :06:16.had very few technical issues, to have had a clean programme and the
:06:16. > :06:22.quality of the output we have had for this first few weeks for our
:06:22. > :06:28.audience to have held up and stuck with us, I think we are really
:06:28. > :06:32.pleased. What do you have to say though to viewers like we have just
:06:32. > :06:38.heard? They say the move was not necessary and is probably costing
:06:38. > :06:44.too much. Well, the move is part of a wider commitment by the BBC to
:06:44. > :06:49.spread the value of the licence fee around the UK. We are now in the
:06:49. > :06:56.centre of the UK, we are not just in the north of England. We think
:06:56. > :07:02.we can make the breakfast that people know and love in Salford.
:07:02. > :07:07.But you can't get the same quality of guests actually on the sofa. The
:07:07. > :07:11.top politicians, the top waters. The UK is a London-based Society
:07:11. > :07:16.and you inevitably have to do more down the line interviews, which
:07:16. > :07:22.loses the sense of presence and intimacy. We have already had some
:07:22. > :07:26.top guests on the sofa. But you won't get the same number. I think,
:07:26. > :07:31.even when we were in west London, some top guest would not sit on a
:07:31. > :07:36.sofa and we didn't down the line or in pre- recorded interviews. It is
:07:36. > :07:44.early days. We have had some great guests so far and we will continue
:07:44. > :07:50.to push for great guests. We reach 7 million people a day. Our
:07:50. > :07:53.audience is a massive drop. this week, we have had the Leveson
:07:53. > :07:56.Inquiry and the spin-offs of the problems faced by the Culture
:07:56. > :08:03.Secretary. You would be able to get any of these people live in the
:08:03. > :08:08.studio. A think the Leveson Inquiry is a particularly difficult story
:08:08. > :08:13.to do in Salford. But the reality was, it is, that we would always
:08:13. > :08:18.have done the Everson from outside the High Court where the inquiry is
:08:18. > :08:21.happening. I think the politicians who are commenting would have
:08:21. > :08:25.inevitably gone into the Westminster studio anyway. They
:08:25. > :08:32.would have been down the line, even in Television Centre. Other viewers
:08:32. > :08:37.have asked about travel costs. Who pays for the travel expenses?
:08:37. > :08:40.I would say is that it doesn't matter if you are a top presenter
:08:40. > :08:47.or a junior researcher on the programme, the relocation packages
:08:47. > :08:54.available to staff at the same for everyone. But once that runs out,
:08:54. > :09:00.they are responsible for their own Cup -- Travel? Yes. We have had a
:09:00. > :09:03.lot of complaints about the set. One, it seems small. The camera
:09:03. > :09:08.angles seemed to be in the presenter's face. People don't like
:09:08. > :09:14.the colours. It is this a smaller studio then the Breakfast used to
:09:14. > :09:18.appear from? Yes, it is, there is no getting away from that. The
:09:18. > :09:23.studio we used to broadcast from is the news watch studio. But we think
:09:23. > :09:28.we have got the space we need. You would expect some, it. People don't
:09:28. > :09:31.like change to the look of a favourite programme. Those few
:09:31. > :09:40.interactions came in the first 48 hours but after that, they have
:09:40. > :09:44.almost dried up. Now people are talking about the stories. That is
:09:44. > :09:48.what they have always talked about. We have made some changes, we have
:09:48. > :09:53.been listening to the viewers. We have changed some of the tight
:09:53. > :09:58.shorts that people had a problem with. I think debt the reality is,
:09:58. > :10:01.we are still settling in to our surroundings and finding the best
:10:01. > :10:07.angles and the best shots, and getting used to the environment.
:10:07. > :10:14.Thank you very much. Time for a quick mention of last
:10:14. > :10:22.weekend's French presidential election. The runner-up was... Here
:10:22. > :10:28.is Michelle on the News at Ten. Exit polls say Nicolas Sarkozy
:10:28. > :10:32.trails his challenger. But the official BBC pronunciation
:10:32. > :10:39.is pronounced differently. That may not be to the liking of Steve
:10:39. > :10:45.Pengelly, he emailed, can you please ask your reporters to stop
:10:45. > :10:50.pronouncing Nicolas Sarkozy in a ridiculously comic French accent?
:10:50. > :10:56.You might expect them to get the name of his talent to write.
:10:56. > :11:01.We have been waiting in fact for the last half-hour to hear from the
:11:01. > :11:11.victorious candidate in the first round of voting.
:11:11. > :11:20.