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:00:12. > :00:22.Now on BBC News, it's time for Newswatch, with Samira Ahmed.

:00:22. > :00:24.Welcome to The Nolan Show. This week: -- news watch.

:00:25. > :00:32.Why is he talking while she is singing?

:00:32. > :00:36.It is very hard... Did this discussion get out of control?

:00:36. > :00:42.And so cut -- and stuck in the snow, does his reporter not watch the

:00:42. > :00:50.news? Monday saw a big set-piece occasion

:00:50. > :00:55.in Washington, the inauguration of Barack Obama for his second term as

:00:55. > :01:05.President. It was a serious speech without some of the lofty idealism

:01:05. > :01:09.of his original address. He will be dealing dramatically with domestic

:01:09. > :01:12.policy. Scores of view was contacted the BBC object into the

:01:12. > :01:22.commentary and interviews you heard going on during the ceremony. The

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:01:39. > :01:44.I am joined by two of the viewers who contacted us. Richard Gerver

:01:44. > :01:48.and Maureen Phillips. Richard, first sum up what you did not like

:01:48. > :01:53.about the coverage? I think the tone was set right at the start. I

:01:53. > :01:58.sat down with my 16-year-old daughter who is really interested

:01:58. > :02:04.in American history at the moment, to watch the inauguration. We were

:02:04. > :02:08.greeted by an interview with a Barack Obama impersonator, which

:02:08. > :02:17.kind of summed up when things were going I think. As the inauguration

:02:18. > :02:21.ceremony began there seemed to be and over a mound of commentary and

:02:22. > :02:25.punditry. It was not about the inauguration and what was happening

:02:25. > :02:31.but more about the challenges Barack Obama would face in his

:02:31. > :02:36.second term and the fact that this punditry was going on over the

:02:36. > :02:40.beautiful sound of a choir, over the introductions from the chair of

:02:40. > :02:43.the inauguration ceremony, and most of what was being said was really

:02:43. > :02:48.repeated commentary from all of the coverage we had heard before the

:02:48. > :02:52.election, during the election and after the election. Maureen, the

:02:52. > :03:02.BBC have said they tried to get a balance between analysis to inform

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:03:05. > :03:08.the audience and letting the event it right. The ceremony itself was a

:03:08. > :03:17.relatively small part of all of the coverage and the talking over key

:03:18. > :03:22.events, the choir, James Taylor... It is very interesting. America the

:03:22. > :03:26.beautiful is a very short song and to talk over its seems to miss the

:03:26. > :03:30.point. Absolutely. I would really like to know from the BBC who made

:03:30. > :03:35.the decision that the British viewer was not going to be privy to

:03:35. > :03:40.that celebration. Because I was so dismayed by it and so embarrassed I

:03:40. > :03:46.channel hop to and I found that Sky News were not doing that and, to my

:03:46. > :03:50.horror, when I channel hop and saw that Sky News were taking the

:03:50. > :03:54.viewer into the president's rumour for the signing of the oath, the

:03:54. > :04:00.BBC had not captured that at all which I think is a very important

:04:00. > :04:05.historic occasion. She did not get anything out of the analysis?

:04:05. > :04:09.Richard said, it was repetitive. It was repeating a lot of what had

:04:09. > :04:12.gone on through the election coverage anyway and I think it is

:04:12. > :04:16.important to have the context actually for the moment of the

:04:16. > :04:21.inauguration you should have been allowed to see that in a full, a

:04:21. > :04:25.relatively short ceremony, and I think the contextual punditry, as

:04:25. > :04:30.Richard calls it, should have been confined to moments when generally

:04:30. > :04:33.something - that nothing was going on and it was intrusive and rude.

:04:34. > :04:40.What would you say, Richard, if you can advise the BBC on coverage of

:04:40. > :04:45.events like this in the future? I agree totally with what has just

:04:45. > :04:50.been said. What concerns me most about the BBC's coverage of these

:04:50. > :04:54.kinds of events, I have to say it reminded me a little bit of the

:04:54. > :04:58.criticisms that were levelled at the BBC during the river pageant

:04:59. > :05:03.during the Queen's Jubilee. That does not seem to be enough faith in

:05:03. > :05:08.that history of the moment and the quality of the production of these

:05:08. > :05:13.ceremonies in themselves. Also, I wonder whether they think that the

:05:13. > :05:18.attention span of the viewer, they miscalculate there. They must have

:05:18. > :05:26.quite a patronising perception of the viewers of these moments in

:05:26. > :05:32.history. Thank you very much. There has been a bit of a storm brewing

:05:32. > :05:36.in Northern Ireland over last week's edition of The Nolan Show.

:05:37. > :05:46.It is known for its provocative tome. This particular edition got

:05:46. > :05:56.livelier than most. Do you agree? did not say that. Let me say this,

:05:56. > :06:00.

:06:00. > :06:05.in fairness to you it is very hard... Those are the photographs.

:06:05. > :06:10.I want to get a lot out of this programme tonight. Listen to him.

:06:10. > :06:16.will answer the question. Before I go any further, what ever equality

:06:17. > :06:20.impact was done, that was the audience. The programme, shown only

:06:20. > :06:30.in Northern Ireland, created a volume of reaction, much of it

:06:30. > :06:35.

:06:35. > :06:40.along the lines of this e-mail we To discuss this I am joined from

:06:40. > :06:43.Belfast by Jeremy Adams, editor of their programme and head of current

:06:43. > :06:48.affairs at BBC Northern Ireland. What happened, it clearly went

:06:48. > :06:53.wrong and you had an audience that were overwhelmingly Unionist and

:06:53. > :06:57.quite disruptive. Absolutely and from a media watch point of view

:06:57. > :07:01.the thing is important to say and others disappointed you did not say

:07:01. > :07:05.was that what happened here is that we had a very large demonstration

:07:05. > :07:10.outside the BBC. A lot of people did not feel able to come in

:07:10. > :07:12.because they were deterred by the protesters outside. We had known

:07:12. > :07:17.beforehand there would be a demonstration and we knew some

:07:17. > :07:20.people did not want the debate to go ahead. But you'd made the

:07:20. > :07:25.decision to let the programme go ahead when you had an audience that

:07:25. > :07:31.was biased and you have their knowledge that. No, I am sorry, let

:07:31. > :07:34.me finish, I did not acknowledge the audience was biased. What I

:07:34. > :07:39.acknowledged was that the normal audience for the programme was

:07:39. > :07:42.organised and people came to the programme and there was a balanced

:07:42. > :07:46.panel to discuss this but unfortunately people were

:07:46. > :07:50.organising a demonstration outside which deterred a set number of

:07:50. > :07:53.people from coming in. What we achieved in this programme, and it

:07:53. > :07:57.is important to understand this, is that we took the dispute that is

:07:57. > :08:02.taking place on the streets, which has been spilling over into

:08:02. > :08:08.violence, we took it into the studio and for all the shouting in

:08:09. > :08:18.the clip, what happened is that we change the wall to talk. That has

:08:19. > :08:23.

:08:23. > :08:25.had a salmon packed a lot of people. People complained and we know that

:08:25. > :08:28.have felt intimidated and B Platt aim could have felt intimidated.

:08:28. > :08:32.Why did you not rethink the decision to go ahead with the

:08:32. > :08:37.audience when people were intimidated from walking into the

:08:37. > :08:39.studio. The question I asked was could be safely go ahead with a

:08:39. > :08:43.discussion to discuss these issues and they would be discussed in a

:08:43. > :08:46.way that people could hear the issues rather than allowing

:08:46. > :08:54.demonstrations and violence to stop the discussion. I concluded we

:08:54. > :08:57.could do and we could do so safely. The key question is a whether the

:08:57. > :09:02.tone of the programme is appropriate for an issue like this,

:09:02. > :09:10.given the violence that was going on in the streets, the Nolan show

:09:10. > :09:14.is known for being provocative and it sets itself up as somewhere with

:09:14. > :09:19.a bit of argy-bargy and perhaps it was wrong to go ahead with what she

:09:19. > :09:23.did. I think that all the evidence is a, and it was set the following

:09:23. > :09:28.day by a number of commentators, that the programme acts as a bit of

:09:28. > :09:31.a safety valve. They did not escalate into violence. It would be

:09:31. > :09:35.wrong, you are talking about the atmosphere of the programme, nobody

:09:35. > :09:39.has been interviewed as much -- interrupted as much as you are

:09:39. > :09:44.interrupting me! It was a discussion in which people felt

:09:44. > :09:50.very strongly. The question was did we stop the debate or have the

:09:50. > :09:53.debate? We had the debate and there has been an exchange of views but

:09:53. > :09:59.the programme had a huge audience amongst the people of Northern

:09:59. > :10:02.Ireland and almost half of the television audience washed it and

:10:02. > :10:07.the vast majority of them, according to our figures, in terms

:10:07. > :10:12.of their appreciation of the programme, the appreciation was

:10:12. > :10:16.high. Tunnel for speaking to us. Finally, viewers sometimes complain

:10:16. > :10:21.about irresponsible reporters take risks when covering severe weather.

:10:21. > :10:24.This week Jon Kay got into a pickle. When reporting on heavy snow in

:10:24. > :10:29.Bristol he and his crew got stuck there for the night and they were

:10:30. > :10:36.put up by a local family the we spoke to the next morning.

:10:36. > :10:41.Good morning, did you not hear the forecast? That so for sounds very

:10:41. > :10:45.comfortable this morning. Be honest, what do you think of idiots like us

:10:45. > :10:49.who get stuck and make foolish mistakes like this and you have to

:10:49. > :10:55.help them out? I suppose it is your job but, if you don't need to

:10:55. > :11:05.travel, it is quite mad, really. Jeremy Bolton was equally

:11:05. > :11:14.

:11:14. > :11:21.Thank you for all of your comments this week. If you want to share