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:00:12. > :00:23.Coming up on the programme, it's a year to the referendum on Scottish

:00:23. > :00:26.independence. Is the BBC giving independence. Is the BBC giving fair

:00:26. > :00:30.access to both sides of access to both sides of the

:00:30. > :00:35.argument? And if the Scots vote to leave the UK, what implications does

:00:35. > :00:41.that have for the future of the BBC? We will hear the opinions of some

:00:41. > :00:45.young voters and the BBC's responds. We have some questions that haven't

:00:45. > :00:48.been answered, that's a massive point, people want to know what the

:00:48. > :00:56.they are not being given. they are not being given.

:00:56. > :01:00.On the 18th of September next year, everyone in Scotland aged 16 and

:01:00. > :01:04.over will get the chance to vote on its future. They will be asked the

:01:04. > :01:08.question, should Scotland be an independent country? A simple enough

:01:08. > :01:12.question but one that has already aroused considerable argument

:01:12. > :01:16.of the issue has come under of the issue has come under

:01:16. > :01:18.particular scrutiny with most of the complaints received by Newswatch

:01:18. > :01:23.according the —— accusing according the —— accusing the

:01:23. > :01:30.corporation of an anti— independence bias. Thomas Machan's Beach e—mail

:01:30. > :01:48.was typical of those: —— Thomas McCann's.

:01:48. > :01:54.I've come to talk to some younger potential voters in next year 's

:01:54. > :01:56.referendum here at Clyde College. Some of the students here, 17 and

:01:56. > :01:59.time potentially in that referendum. up, will be voting for the first

:02:00. > :02:05.time potentially in that referendum. What do you think of the coverage of

:02:05. > :02:12.think the coverage is pretty 50/50. It's just that I think it is always

:02:12. > :02:17.in the same sort of narrow context. I just think there's not any

:02:17. > :02:24.of the UK, important to London? UK? Why

:02:24. > :02:24.of the UK, important to London? There is an assumption that the

:02:24. > :02:36.it. We need to help you understand people are

:02:36. > :02:40.it. We need to help you understand why you can't do this. What is your

:02:40. > :02:49.view of the coverage and how far you think it is answering the questions

:02:49. > :02:53.you might have? I think the coverage is not as big as it should be, it's

:02:53. > :03:00.a massive story for our generation and future generations. There's not

:03:00. > :03:02.enough in the media. The last story about independence or the yes

:03:02. > :03:06.campaign was e—mail is getting hacked, that has told me nothing

:03:06. > :03:09.about why I should vote yes or no, it has only told me that is a bad

:03:09. > :03:13.thing that's happened, it's not given me a clear idea. In terms of

:03:13. > :03:18.thing that's happened, it's not how the BBC basically portrays it

:03:18. > :03:21.all, I feel as aggrieved, I feel there's not enough on either side. I

:03:21. > :03:29.am part of both better together am part of both better together and

:03:29. > :03:33.Yes on Facebook —— Better Together. Every day you will have countless

:03:33. > :03:38.information and facts on both and they are never reported by the BBC,

:03:38. > :03:40.reported by anyone. You need to reported by anyone. You need to

:03:40. > :03:42.remember that people don't want remember that people don't want to

:03:42. > :03:46.hear about it all the time, they don't want the constant reminder

:03:46. > :03:49.that this debate is happening and everyone is going to have to make

:03:50. > :03:54.this massive decision that's going to affect our country. As for the

:03:54. > :03:56.BBC, I think they do do it fairly enough. In terms of news coverage,

:03:56. > :03:59.do you think it is balanced, or is do you think it is balanced, or is

:03:59. > :04:07.there a sense there a sense of bias at all? I do

:04:07. > :04:08.think that sometimes with the Yes campaign there's a bit less of a

:04:08. > :04:11.level of reporting going on, and it level of

:04:11. > :04:16.in the way they report it, like. in the way they report it, like.

:04:16. > :04:19.Alex Salmond holding up a saltire behind David Cameron, it gets loads

:04:19. > :04:23.of attention, it is treated as if it of attention, it is treated as

:04:23. > :04:26.discussion. I don't think it's bias discussion. I don't think it's bias

:04:26. > :04:28.at all. discussion. I don't think it's bias

:04:28. > :04:29.National National Party of the Yes campaign

:04:29. > :04:37.are louder than the are louder than the No campaign. I

:04:37. > :04:41.don't think it's bias, I think it is purely because Alex Salmond likes to

:04:41. > :04:52.it with this crazy image of Alex shout his mouth about a lot of

:04:52. > :04:57.it with this crazy image of Alex Salmond being this despot, trying to

:04:57. > :05:01.separate the union. I feel sometimes that the BBC can play into the

:05:01. > :05:03.scaremongering that a lot of these sort of unionists want, they can

:05:03. > :05:07.say, you know, this will happen say, you know, this will happen and

:05:07. > :05:13.this will happen rather than looking at it from a more rational point of

:05:13. > :05:16.view. Do you think the BBC has a vested interest in the Unionist

:05:16. > :05:21.point of view? I don't know if that's the case. I would imagine on

:05:21. > :05:24.some level that they did. Especially since what would happen to the BBC

:05:24. > :05:27.in Scotland after independence, in Scotland after independence, it

:05:27. > :05:31.is up in the air and no one even here knows what's going to happen

:05:31. > :05:35.with it. You raised the issue about what will happen to the BBC after, I

:05:35. > :05:39.wonder if that's something you have thought about. If Scotland were to

:05:39. > :05:41.vote for independence, what difference would it make? That's an

:05:42. > :05:46.important thing for me. I am on important thing for me. I am on BBC

:05:46. > :05:51.to the BBC if we vote yes is to the BBC if we vote yes is

:05:51. > :05:54.critical, because I feel that the BBC gives some of the best news

:05:54. > :05:58.coverage in the world and that's very important to me. Are not too

:05:58. > :06:05.sure what should happen to the BBC, there should be a divide, and

:06:05. > :06:08.English BBC, a EBC, and a Scottish BBC, the coverage of the stories

:06:08. > :06:11.internationally is of a high internationally is of a high

:06:11. > :06:17.standard so I don't think we should lose that. We have so many questions

:06:17. > :06:20.that aren't being answered. That's a massive point the BBC should take on

:06:20. > :06:25.answers to these questions and they are not being given. Whether that's

:06:25. > :06:29.the fault of the politics at the top, that could be the case, but the

:06:29. > :06:32.media should not try to pick sides and make people choose sides, but

:06:32. > :06:34.is what will happen if you vote yes is what will happen if you vote yes

:06:34. > :06:41.or no. Thanks very much. or no. Thanks very much.

:06:41. > :06:50.with the tricky task of reporting on specifically, the BBC headquarters

:06:50. > :06:54.with the tricky task of reporting on the buildup. Viewers across the

:06:54. > :06:56.will see plenty more of figures such will see plenty

:06:56. > :06:58.as Brian Taylor, BBC Scotland's as Brian

:06:58. > :07:02.political editor and author of a political editor and author of a

:07:02. > :07:07.up coverage of the independence reporting Scotland will be

:07:07. > :07:08.up coverage of the independence debate, as Will Newsnight Scotland,

:07:08. > :07:10.which opts out of the UK wide which opts out of the UK

:07:10. > :07:15.programme from 11pm Monday to programme from 11pm Monday to

:07:15. > :07:17.Thursday. The person in charge of BBC Scotland's news and current

:07:17. > :07:21.affairs output is John Boothman. We affairs output is John Boothman. We

:07:21. > :07:25.have had a lot of complaints from people who feel there's a bias in

:07:25. > :07:30.the BBC coverage of the independence issue, and anti— independence bias,

:07:30. > :07:34.possibly even because the BBC has a vested interest in staying in the

:07:34. > :07:40.union. We want to be and we strive to be impartial, it a cornerstone of

:07:40. > :07:42.all of journalism. The debate has begun and will become even more so a

:07:42. > :07:46.polarised debate, it's not like polarised debate, it's not like an

:07:46. > :07:48.election where you have got four or five different parties, four in

:07:48. > :07:50.Scotland, three, now UKIP, in Scotland, three, now UKIP, in

:07:50. > :07:55.England. You have got two sides in England. You have got two sides in a

:07:55. > :07:58.polarised debate. When you're trying to sit in the middle of that

:07:58. > :08:01.debate, to be in partial you're going to be the subject of

:08:01. > :08:05.complaints. To be fair we have on planes from both sides. We deal with

:08:05. > :08:09.these individually —— we these individually —— we have

:08:09. > :08:14.complaints. You don't feel overall that there is an issue with more

:08:14. > :08:16.coverage on the anti— independence side? It depends who you talk to. In

:08:16. > :08:20.a polarised debate you're going to a polarised debate you're going to

:08:20. > :08:22.get complaints from both sides. You're in charge of news and current

:08:22. > :08:29.affairs in Scotland and affairs in Scotland and also

:08:29. > :08:31.nationwide, how do you reconcile what a Scottish

:08:31. > :08:38.needing bombardment? It is possible a UK audience, that might not be

:08:38. > :08:42.needing bombardment? It is possible for the BBC to cover the story at

:08:42. > :08:45.different levels. But at the end of the day, at a UK level, the

:08:45. > :08:48.implications of this debate and the implications of this debate and the

:08:48. > :08:52.big implications for the UK. While I big implications for the UK. While I

:08:52. > :08:53.accept that there's less of interest so far in this story south

:08:53. > :08:57.interest so of the border, I think that is

:08:57. > :09:00.something that is growing and will something t?I ? something towing

:09:00. > :09:05.grow over the period of the next year. A number the students we spoke

:09:05. > :09:10.to at Clyde College said they felt the coverage focused too much on the

:09:10. > :09:20.breaking news stance, flag—waving, and the political infighting, and

:09:20. > :09:21.for issues they care about, welfare or student living and so on ——

:09:21. > :09:22.stunneds ?? I stunneds. or student living and so on ——

:09:22. > :09:27.stunneds. Two things have happened in the past period, there's been a

:09:27. > :09:31.concentration on process, because it was not until a few months ago that

:09:31. > :09:36.we knew what the question was. We didn't know until it you months ago

:09:36. > :09:40.what the date was. We now know the question, should Scotland be an

:09:40. > :09:44.independent country? We now know the date, September the 18th. We also

:09:44. > :09:48.know it will be covered by the electoral commission. Yeah, we do

:09:48. > :09:53.news programmes, and sometimes there is a tendency if someone is engaged

:09:53. > :09:56.and others are launching a campaign that that is what we would cover.

:09:56. > :10:00.But I can assure everyone that during the course of the next year,

:10:00. > :10:05.slightly over a year, we will get into the meat of all of the issues

:10:05. > :10:09.that we're talking about, whether its economy, welfare, defence,

:10:09. > :10:14.immigration, all of these issues across a whole breadth of the

:10:14. > :10:19.in the run—up to the referendum. A in the run—up to the referendum. A

:10:19. > :10:23.lot of viewers will be wondering what a "yes" vote for independence

:10:23. > :10:28.would mean for the BBC in Scotland. The BBC needs to do two things in

:10:28. > :10:32.the referendum. One, it needs to impartially cover the issue of

:10:32. > :10:36.broadcasting and what happens to it and our journalists will do that.

:10:36. > :10:40.Secondly there's the issue of what happens to the BBC. The BBC as a

:10:40. > :10:53.corporate identity has taken the position that it will not engage in

:10:53. > :10:55.scenario planning, that is right and proper. The BBC has experience of

:10:55. > :10:56.this after the last devolution referendum, it wasn't until after

:10:56. > :10:57.the democratic wishes of the the democratic wishes of the

:10:57. > :10:58.Scottish people were known, that Scottish people were known, that is

:10:58. > :10:59.Scottish pe? I Scottish peat is Scottish people were known, that is

:10:59. > :11:01.to create a Scottish parliament that to create a Scottish parliament that

:11:01. > :11:03.we have now, that the current model of broadcasting that the BBC uses

:11:04. > :11:14.edition of Newswatch. Many thanks to very much.

:11:14. > :11:16.edition of Newswatch. Many thanks to all who contributed and sent in

:11:16. > :11:20.their views. If you would like to send us your views on any aspect of

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:11:26. > :11:40.You can watch this programme again and any of our additions from the

:11:40. > :11:40.past year. Thanks very much. For