08/07/2016

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:00:00. > :00:00.who knocked out Roger Federer. At ten o'clock, Sophie will be here

:00:00. > :00:09.with a round-up of the day's news. First, it is time for Newswatch.

:00:10. > :00:17.The contest to become our next Prime Minister has been full

:00:18. > :00:19.of surprise, but has BBC News hyped the drama and forgotten

:00:20. > :00:25.And with plenty of coverage of the battle to lead

:00:26. > :00:30.the Labour Party too, is there a need for more

:00:31. > :00:36.journalistic calm in these turbulent political days?

:00:37. > :00:39.First though, it was 2.5 million words long, covered eight years

:00:40. > :00:42.of government policy and was seven years in the writing, so it's no

:00:43. > :00:48.surprise that Sir John Chilcot's report on the Iraq War occupied

:00:49. > :00:50.a great deal of airtime on BBC News this week.

:00:51. > :00:53.Opinions are strongly held about the conduct of Tony Blair

:00:54. > :00:55.in the lead-up to the war and so were opinions

:00:56. > :01:00."The BBC News reporting before and after Chilcot's

:01:01. > :01:03.statement was biased firmly towards the defenders

:01:04. > :01:07.of the decisions taken before the Iraq war.

:01:08. > :01:09.I am including the long defence by Blair himself,

:01:10. > :01:17.But Richard Wright felt the opposite.

:01:18. > :01:20."Tony Blair did not act independently, but all the comments

:01:21. > :01:23.Some of the comments of relatives of casualties were

:01:24. > :01:28.To blame Tony Blair and only Tony Blair is wrong and unfair."

:01:29. > :01:32.It is strange to think it was only two weeks ago that a majority

:01:33. > :01:34.of British voters elected to leave the European Union.

:01:35. > :01:38.Since then, the world of politics has barely drawn breath.

:01:39. > :01:42.That has left reporters sometimes struggling to keep up with events

:01:43. > :01:45.and it has given them other challenges as well.

:01:46. > :01:48.I think the country requires fresh leadership to take it

:01:49. > :01:52.David Cameron's announcement that he was standing down

:01:53. > :01:56.as Prime Minister in the wake of the referendum triggered

:01:57. > :01:59.a fortnight of further resignations, real and aborted leadership

:02:00. > :02:04.challenges and, at times, a sense of political pandemonium.

:02:05. > :02:19.# I've got the eye of the tiger, fire, dancing through the fire...

:02:20. > :02:22.# 'Cos I am the champion and you're going to hear me roar...

:02:23. > :02:25.That last treatment of the two candidates to become the next

:02:26. > :02:27.Conservative leader irked Kate Cashmore, who wrote.

:02:28. > :02:31."I was aghast to see coverage of the May/Leadsom leadership

:02:32. > :02:33.campaign broadcast to the sound of Katie Perry's hit single Roar.

:02:34. > :02:35.I found it not only inappropriate, but horrendously

:02:36. > :02:43.I very much doubt that if Michael Gove and Stephen Crabb

:02:44. > :02:46.were still in the running, you would package up the story

:02:47. > :02:48.to the tune of Justin Bieber or Kendrick Lamar."

:02:49. > :02:51.But there have been wider concerns about how the BBC has

:02:52. > :02:53.been covering politics during these turbulent times.

:02:54. > :02:55.Here is Evan Davis chairing a Newsnight discussion at the end

:02:56. > :02:59.of last week about that Tory leadership campaign.

:03:00. > :03:01.Has it been edifying, are you impressed by

:03:02. > :03:05.I mean, we all love the drama, the House of Cards stuff,

:03:06. > :03:08.Well, I don't think anyone in the country

:03:09. > :03:12.It's been like some kind of astonishing pantomime, frankly.

:03:13. > :03:15.Viewer Sarah Senior took exception to a phrase of Evan Davis's there,

:03:16. > :03:22.To suggest that we love the House of Cards drama and

:03:23. > :03:24.intrigue of it all is a serious misjudgement of the attitude

:03:25. > :03:29.He appeared to be hardly able to contain his joy as he described

:03:30. > :03:31.the farcical infighting British politics has become.

:03:32. > :03:36.Much of this sorry mess is down to the media,

:03:37. > :03:38.although I had thought the BBC better than that.

:03:39. > :03:41.Please, this is Newsnight, not Top Gear.

:03:42. > :03:43.I expect a little more gravitas and a little less

:03:44. > :03:49.The charge of hyping up and relishing the current political

:03:50. > :03:52.dramas was also made by Chris Ward, who objected recently to multiple

:03:53. > :03:54.repetitions of how Michael Gove is stabbing Boris Johnson

:03:55. > :03:59."Emotive language and treating political decision-making as theatre

:04:00. > :04:05.will not help us come together as a united nation.

:04:06. > :04:07.And it is not just reporting about the Conservatives,

:04:08. > :04:09.Christine Beardmore e-mailed about the frankly hysterical

:04:10. > :04:25."The way Corbyn has been treated is disgusting.

:04:26. > :04:31.The Six o'clock News close to watching bear-baiting."

:04:32. > :04:33.So have BBC journalists been using inflammatory, over the top

:04:34. > :04:35.language and been making drama out of a crisis?

:04:36. > :04:37.Here is political correspondent Chris Mason speaking

:04:38. > :04:41.So let's look at Labour first, because that story

:04:42. > :04:48.For those on the centre ground of Labour politics,

:04:49. > :04:51.it is a bit like bat the rat with the Labour left.

:04:52. > :04:55.They had been batting away in the '80s trying to get rid

:04:56. > :04:58.of the militant movement and Lord Kinnock felt he had been

:04:59. > :05:08.And here, the left in the guise of Jeremy Corbyn and his supporters.

:05:09. > :05:10.I suppose as you know very well, many Conservative MPs

:05:11. > :05:14.were surprised, as the rest of us, by the way these events have turned

:05:15. > :05:16.out and perhaps not quite made up their minds.

:05:17. > :05:19.Some Conservative MPs would just, they found the process

:05:20. > :05:23.There is a huge amount of anger over the behaviour of Michael Gove.

:05:24. > :05:25.That Olympian act of school duggery really

:05:26. > :05:28.Well, Chris Mason joins me now from Westminster.

:05:29. > :05:30.Chris, thank you for coming on the programme.

:05:31. > :05:33.With so many developments and twists and turns in British politics

:05:34. > :05:36.recently, it must be quite hard to report when you really do not

:05:37. > :05:42.It is very hard because in the last couple of weeks, it has felt

:05:43. > :05:44.like political reporting only exists to make astrology seem respectable.

:05:45. > :05:47.People are always asking me to predict what might happen next.

:05:48. > :05:50.And to be honest, the honest and truthful answer at the moment

:05:51. > :05:52.seems to revolve around saying, I simply don't know.

:05:53. > :05:58.That is how astounding political times are at the moment.

:05:59. > :06:01.Those of us paid to professionally observe it are frequently taken

:06:02. > :06:07.Some reviewers have taken you to task, some of the language

:06:08. > :06:14.Dealing with the Labour left is like a game of bat the rat.

:06:15. > :06:16.Michael Gove's Olympian act of skulduggery.

:06:17. > :06:17.Those sorts of phrases, apparently revelling

:06:18. > :06:19.in the kind of chaos, actually not helpful

:06:20. > :06:28.Look, I am going to plead guilty to a penchant for the occasional

:06:29. > :06:32.On that, you definitely have me bang the rights.

:06:33. > :06:34.On that, you definitely have me bang to rights.

:06:35. > :06:37.That is partially because a lot of the time in reporting politics,

:06:38. > :06:39.I am keenly aware, and this is what is so exceptional

:06:40. > :06:42.about the current period, I am keenly aware that reporting

:06:43. > :06:45.politics a lot of the time, in my view, does need to be told

:06:46. > :06:48.very well otherwise there is a grave danger that a lot

:06:49. > :06:51.I think that political journalists should firstly plead guilty

:06:52. > :06:54.to the fact that we do find times like this exciting.

:06:55. > :06:58.That phrase that I used last weekend I think it was about the game of bat

:06:59. > :07:00.the rat that Labour sometimes feel they are playing,

:07:01. > :07:02.that was reflecting on a conversation I had

:07:03. > :07:05.had with a Labour MP, that was a phrase put to me

:07:06. > :07:07.by a Labour MP which I then broadcast.

:07:08. > :07:11.We have to be aware that when news is big and political news is big,

:07:12. > :07:13.that is often because people are depending on their view excited

:07:14. > :07:15.or worried and that should be reflected I think

:07:16. > :07:19.But I don't think that should mean that we revert

:07:20. > :07:24.We should continue to report in a way that it is as ear grabbing

:07:25. > :07:33.I think what people are saying is when they hear this discussion

:07:34. > :07:35.from correspondents about this excitement and drama,

:07:36. > :07:37.that maybe you have forgotten since the EU referendum that a lot

:07:38. > :07:39.of people are genuinely worried about the

:07:40. > :07:43.I think that theatre is always going to be

:07:44. > :07:49.And that theatre is part of what we have a responsibility to cover.

:07:50. > :07:51.Whilst at the same time, asking probing questions about how

:07:52. > :07:54.the next Prime Minister and her team will manage those negotiations out

:07:55. > :07:58.We also have to be well aware that whilst there are a lot of people,

:07:59. > :08:01.especially those who have voted Remain in the referendum

:08:02. > :08:03.who are both angry and nervous about the future, there

:08:04. > :08:11.are millions of people very excited about it as well.

:08:12. > :08:18.Those who back Jeremy Corbyn say that he has a lot of support

:08:19. > :08:21.out in the country at large and the media focus

:08:22. > :08:23.on the Westminster bubble, where they say he does

:08:24. > :08:28.not have much backing, and you're part of that Westminster

:08:29. > :08:34.Yes, it is a really big challenge at Westminster.

:08:35. > :08:37.Because the very nature of being a political correspondent

:08:38. > :08:39.is you report on MPs at Westminster and you have a lot

:08:40. > :08:43.And you have far less contact with ordinary party members.

:08:44. > :08:47.The central element of the Labour story is the gulf between a lot

:08:48. > :08:50.of Labour MPs and a lot of Labour party members, so we have

:08:51. > :08:53.to be careful about that but, at the same time,

:08:54. > :08:56.we would be failing in our duty if we were not reporting how

:08:57. > :09:09.astonishing the current times are in the Labour Party.

:09:10. > :09:12.I think it's fair to say that confidence in British politics has

:09:13. > :09:15.Do you think political correspondents like yourself

:09:16. > :09:17.have a role to play in rebuilding that confidence?

:09:18. > :09:20.That is a really, really good question because what I am

:09:21. > :09:23.struck by when I go home to the Yorkshire Dales and I talk

:09:24. > :09:25.to my friends and family, frequently, a conversation goes

:09:26. > :09:32.Chris, why on Earth do you want to work at Westminster

:09:33. > :09:35.when there are those MPs with their snouts in the trough

:09:36. > :09:38.and they all think the same thing and they have not got any principles

:09:39. > :09:43.That is the gist of the kind of conversation I have.

:09:44. > :09:44.And instinctively, I always defend politicians.

:09:45. > :09:47.I think aspiring to be an elected politician is a noble calling,

:09:48. > :09:54.A lot of them could earn a lot more doing something else.

:09:55. > :09:56.All of them could have an easier life.

:09:57. > :10:02.And so I am firmly of the view that, yes, we are paid to be

:10:03. > :10:04.professionally sceptical, but we should never be cynical

:10:05. > :10:08.about a politician's intentions and we should never easily

:10:09. > :10:10.impugn their motive either, unless we can be certain

:10:11. > :10:20.It is certainly not our job to encourage people to vote,

:10:21. > :10:23.for people to decide of their own free will,

:10:24. > :10:26.but I don't think we should be in the business of

:10:27. > :10:30.Away from politics, there was another resignation this

:10:31. > :10:33.week, that of Chris Evans from the newly relaunched Top Gear.

:10:34. > :10:39.Some people felt there was too much attention given to this

:10:40. > :10:41.given to this bombshell, but Dave Johns from

:10:42. > :10:52."For months, we had BBC News ramming Chris Evans down our throats,

:10:53. > :10:56.now he leaves and we get a simple statement, how come BBC News are not

:10:57. > :11:04.investigating the money Evans was paid and the loss to BBC

:11:05. > :11:06.Worldwide from being able to sell this now unpopular series,

:11:07. > :11:11.and how will the revenue drop affect other programme making?

:11:12. > :11:15.So many questions to answer, but BBC News goes mute,

:11:16. > :11:17.so clearly it was just a corporation stouge

:11:18. > :11:22.Thank you for all your comments this week.

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