:00:00. > :00:00.travel between the two countries. More news at the top of the hour,
:00:00. > :00:16.but first, here is News watch. Hello and welcome to News watch.
:00:17. > :00:19.More than five years into the destruction and suffering of the
:00:20. > :00:25.Syrian civil war, are we getting a full picture of the conflict? We
:00:26. > :00:34.speak to the BBC Middle East editor about the challenges of reporting on
:00:35. > :00:38.such a harrowing conflict. He is a contemporary chronicler. It was the
:00:39. > :00:45.voice of a new Nobel laureate for literature or a bad impersonator?
:00:46. > :00:49.First, it was surprising to hear on Thursday that the top story on many
:00:50. > :00:56.bulletins was about Marmite. At least it until it became clear
:00:57. > :01:00.was... Brexit was the real story. The spread was one of the number of
:01:01. > :01:04.brands withdrawn from the Tesco online site after a dispute over
:01:05. > :01:09.prices with a supplier, pointing to the sharp drop in the Valley of the
:01:10. > :01:14.pound which many attributed to the government permitted that Britain
:01:15. > :01:18.would leave the EU. The story the BBC brook which disclosed
:01:19. > :01:22.negotiations between Unilever and Tesco caused a significant drop in
:01:23. > :01:34.shares of both companies. There was panic buying of goods in a certain
:01:35. > :01:38.stories. The news last week and was dominated by the release of the
:01:39. > :01:42.video in which Donald Trump boasted that his fame meant he could do
:01:43. > :01:55.anything to women. Other comments made by the US presidential...
:01:56. > :01:58.Comments were summarised. News reports used the term is groping and
:01:59. > :02:04.lewd behaviour. What Donald Trump did was to claim he repeatedly uses
:02:05. > :02:06.his powerful position to harass and assault women. He said he just
:02:07. > :02:12.walked up to them and kissed them were grabbed them. If this were
:02:13. > :02:18.true, it would constitute sexual assault. To say that trouble boasted
:02:19. > :02:22.of sexual assault would certainly enrage him. But that is what he has
:02:23. > :02:32.done. To refrain from describing it in those terms is to commit an act
:02:33. > :02:35.of cowardice. It is to accept a misogynistic linguistic framing and
:02:36. > :02:40.it is to betray victims who need to hear that there is recourse in law
:02:41. > :02:43.for this kind of behaviour. The announcement on Thursday that Bob
:02:44. > :02:48.Dylan had won the Nobel Prize for literature caused much discussion.
:02:49. > :02:52.Art is their exquisite literature? After watching the news at six, some
:02:53. > :02:58.viewers were wondering if Bob Dylan was really Bob Dylan. Bob Dylan,
:02:59. > :03:03.like Shakespeare, has the knack for coin a phrase which becomes part of
:03:04. > :03:10.everyday speech. He has his own sense of meter and rhyme, metaphor
:03:11. > :03:13.and meaning. He is a contemporary chronicler, storyteller, moralist
:03:14. > :03:21.and poet whose work and words have changed attitudes and lives. Now,
:03:22. > :03:27.his vocal style is not exactly classical but those who sing as
:03:28. > :03:31.badly as that? No, because as one person on Twitter product, the last
:03:32. > :03:38.20 seconds on the Nobel Prize featured footage of not the man
:03:39. > :03:42.himself but a Dylan impersonator. Keith added, what a shame that the
:03:43. > :03:48.film footage concluded with someone doing a third rate impression of the
:03:49. > :03:52.great man. BBC News held their hands up to the mystic to us at the end of
:03:53. > :03:56.the Bob Dylan package some archive footage which had been incorrectly
:03:57. > :04:06.labelled as him was used. This was a production error which was rectified
:04:07. > :04:09.for the ten o'clock news. Now, since the ceasefire as stored in Syria
:04:10. > :04:13.broke down, the second city, a level, has been under intense
:04:14. > :04:17.bombardment. Political and diplomatic arguments have raged for
:04:18. > :04:21.whom there is responsibility and how it might be resolved. After five
:04:22. > :04:25.years of war, a solution seems further away than ever. During the
:04:26. > :04:32.recent deposit fighting, our Middle East editor, reported from Aleppo. I
:04:33. > :04:37.couldn't cross into eastern Aleppo. This was close to the front line in
:04:38. > :04:45.the old city, a tangle of medieval alleys that used to be the greatest
:04:46. > :04:53.souk in the Levant. The old city was an extraordinary human creation, now
:04:54. > :04:56.it is empty and dead. Nature of child was leaving hospital for his
:04:57. > :05:06.new life. It will be without his arm and without his four cousins who
:05:07. > :05:10.were killed when he was wounded. For reasons of logistics and 70, media
:05:11. > :05:14.access to Syria has been irregular and difficult and some viewers have
:05:15. > :05:20.told us they are concerned that the BBC is providing an incomplete or
:05:21. > :05:24.even distorted view of the conflict. There is much reporting on the
:05:25. > :05:28.terrible bombing in Aleppo in rebel held areas, but I am also interested
:05:29. > :05:33.in what is happening to civilians on the Syrian army side. What people on
:05:34. > :05:36.the opposite side think of their government's actions and what
:05:37. > :05:40.attacks rebels and terrorist groups are making on the Syrian army held
:05:41. > :05:43.areas. A more rounded reporting of the situation from different
:05:44. > :05:48.perspectives is needed to better understand the crisis. And Clive put
:05:49. > :05:51.it like this, the footage shown is almost exclusively from the eastern
:05:52. > :05:55.Aleppo rebel side without a mention that there are government areas with
:05:56. > :06:00.civilian victims of shelling or suicide bombing on a regular basis,
:06:01. > :06:03.mainly children are selected for maximum emotional effect when the
:06:04. > :06:09.majority of casualties are adults, including many Cine jihadists. Well,
:06:10. > :06:14.to discuss the challenges of reporting from Syria, Jeremie Boga
:06:15. > :06:18.joins us now from Cardiff. Most reports that we get here tend to be
:06:19. > :06:23.from the rebel side. How far do you try to get access to the government
:06:24. > :06:26.side? Most of the reporting I have done since I went after the war
:06:27. > :06:35.started has been from the government side. They are basically two ways of
:06:36. > :06:40.getting into Syria since the war began. One is with the Visa and
:06:41. > :06:44.reporting from the government side in the main and the other way in and
:06:45. > :06:49.was mainly over the Turkish border without a visa onto the rebel side.
:06:50. > :06:54.That access is almost ceased because it is too dangerous. The chances of
:06:55. > :07:02.running into jihadists Pujara journalists are very great. They
:07:03. > :07:08.kidnap rate is enormous. When I report from Syria, I am reporting
:07:09. > :07:12.from the government side. The worry I have had is that I have not been
:07:13. > :07:18.able to report from the rebel held side and that when we use pictures
:07:19. > :07:20.from the rebel side it is pictures we have sourced ourselves rather
:07:21. > :07:26.than directly filming them ourselves. Those are some of the
:07:27. > :07:30.most distressing images. Some viewers are concerned that we are
:07:31. > :07:35.getting a distorted view of the conflict. We get this footage coming
:07:36. > :07:37.from the rebel side of casualties. The message being the bombs are
:07:38. > :07:42.being dropped by Russians and Syrians. What is your view? There
:07:43. > :07:47.are distressing pictures from both sides. In that clip of mine, the
:07:48. > :07:54.wounded boy, he lived in government-held territory and was
:07:55. > :08:01.hurt by a shell that, his family said, came from a place held by the
:08:02. > :08:04.jihadists of Islamic State. It is representative, I think, to use
:08:05. > :08:12.pictures of children. They can be more shocking, but war is shocking.
:08:13. > :08:15.War is barbaric. There is a difficult issue about what we
:08:16. > :08:21.should. There is also a concern of when you shall such distressing
:08:22. > :08:25.images, of viewers feeling hopeless about it, also a fear of the
:08:26. > :08:32.desensitising with this torrent of distressing images. I think it is up
:08:33. > :08:37.to people like myself to report in such a way that people don't get
:08:38. > :08:46.desensitised. The argument about how much blood and gore reality to show
:08:47. > :08:50.is one we have constantly. It is a constant discussion and I have had
:08:51. > :08:55.many discussions over many years from many waters with programme
:08:56. > :08:59.editors about how much we show. Generally speaking, the people in
:09:00. > :09:03.the field want to show more than the people who edit the programmes are
:09:04. > :09:10.prepared to show and in an ideal world you get some sort of a happy
:09:11. > :09:15.medium between the two. Yes, it is shocking, but it is real. One other
:09:16. > :09:19.concern we have heard, and I have heard it expressed by former
:09:20. > :09:23.diplomats, is that the introductions to news items about Syria often
:09:24. > :09:28.oversimplify and they talk about rebels versus Assad and Russia, but
:09:29. > :09:32.the reality is more conjugated with many jihadists groups on the ground.
:09:33. > :09:38.How does it look to you? The news should not be about good people
:09:39. > :09:42.versus bad people. An injury gives you a flavour and it is not the
:09:43. > :09:51.whole story. You have to take the hole. We have to take the whole in
:09:52. > :09:56.more than one piece because I try to look at the number of pieces I have
:09:57. > :09:59.done from one reporting trip rather than one individual report. That is
:10:00. > :10:04.difficult because not everybody watches the news with the same
:10:05. > :10:11.obsessive seems that journalists do, but you cannot get everything in
:10:12. > :10:17.every piece. What I try to do and this is the challenge of TV
:10:18. > :10:22.reporting, I tried to do a story which has got something in it with
:10:23. > :10:28.someone who is interested but doesn't know much will get and learn
:10:29. > :10:34.something and come away a bit wiser. It will also, at the same time, have
:10:35. > :10:37.something in it that the top diplomat at the Foreign Office who
:10:38. > :10:41.deals with the Middle East might get and find interesting as well. It
:10:42. > :10:46.needs to be like a layer cake. That is not an easy thing to do. You need
:10:47. > :10:50.good material. He have to be careful with your words and good interviews
:10:51. > :10:58.and sometimes we succeed and sometimes we don't. Finally, when
:10:59. > :11:02.presenters read the headlines on a busy news programme that open assume
:11:03. > :11:05.that the pictures being run by the studio Gallery their relation to the
:11:06. > :11:12.words they are saying. It doesn't always work out like that. This is
:11:13. > :11:18.breakfast. It is half six, it is Friday the 14th of October. We will
:11:19. > :11:23.be joined by Scottish First Minister Nicola Sturgeon and we will talk to
:11:24. > :11:26.her about plans for a second referendum on independence. We have
:11:27. > :11:30.clearly run at the wrong pictures over that particular sequence. My
:11:31. > :11:37.apologies. Restore it we will be talking about later is about the
:11:38. > :11:42.escaped gorilla at London zoo. Many of those who spotted that trip to
:11:43. > :11:47.Twitter with Sean posting this. The sturgeon gorilla gaffe must be
:11:48. > :11:51.irrefutable evidence of BBC bias. Thank you for all of your comments.
:11:52. > :12:02.If you want to share your opinions on BBC News and current affairs you
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:12:07. > :12:13.website. The address is on the screen. We will be back to hear your
:12:14. > :12:24.thoughts about BBC News coverage again next week.