12/05/2017

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:00:09. > :00:13.At ten o'clock in Bruce will be here with a full round-up of the news.

:00:14. > :00:23.First, here is news watch. Hello and welcome to Newswatch

:00:24. > :00:26.with me, Samira Ahmed. She won't take part

:00:27. > :00:28.in a televised leaders debate. Will the BBC do more to make

:00:29. > :00:31.a head-to-head happen? And are the Green party being given

:00:32. > :00:35.a fair share of airtime on the BBC's There has been a bit

:00:36. > :00:42.of a phoney war feel Before the parties began

:00:43. > :00:45.publishing their manifestos. Many questions had been fobbed

:00:46. > :00:48.off with this answer, given to Laura Kuenssberg

:00:49. > :00:54.by Jeremy Corbyn on Tuesday. Well, you will have to wait

:00:55. > :00:57.for the manifesto for the details. Those manifestos will be

:00:58. > :01:00.officially unveiled next week, but on Wednesday night we got

:01:01. > :01:02.a sneak preview of what Somehow, an earlier

:01:03. > :01:08.version had ended up I can't claim I've read it

:01:09. > :01:13.all, but here it is. Stamped right through the middle

:01:14. > :01:15.of the document, about 20,000 words In other words, they hadn't quite

:01:16. > :01:22.anticipated me waving it But I can do, because we've

:01:23. > :01:28.received this leaked draft. Well, he could leave it

:01:29. > :01:30.around on the telly, Tim Grant was among several

:01:31. > :01:34.Newswatch viewers who thought not, asking, if it's got confidential

:01:35. > :01:37.written on it, is it right And David Gregory

:01:38. > :01:43.elaborated on that. One report explained how the word

:01:44. > :01:45.draft was on every page and that this report was not meant

:01:46. > :01:49.for public viewing. Why, then, do the BBC take

:01:50. > :01:52.the opportunity to make a moral stand here and not report

:01:53. > :01:55.on what was in the manifesto? This is, in effect, a stolen

:01:56. > :01:58.document, and therefore should have not been used in the way

:01:59. > :02:02.that it was. We didn't discover much

:02:03. > :02:04.about the Conservative Party's policy plans on Tuesday night's

:02:05. > :02:07.One Show, but we did get a few insights into the personalities

:02:08. > :02:15.and marriage of Mr and Mrs May. I get to decide when

:02:16. > :02:20.There's boy jobs and girl jobs, you see.

:02:21. > :02:24.Now, we're not leaving that as well, are we?

:02:25. > :02:28.I'm tempted to say in current circumstances I'm not sure how

:02:29. > :02:38.Alison Norcross found that a stomach churning interview,

:02:39. > :02:41.it made uncomfortable viewing on many fronts, not the least

:02:42. > :02:45.of which is the absolute obsequiousness of the presenters.

:02:46. > :02:48.And one Twitter user wondered, how can this propaganda be

:02:49. > :02:53.allowed when May runs from a face-to-face debate?

:02:54. > :02:57.The format in which senior politicians appear in the set piece

:02:58. > :02:59.election programmes only started in 2010, but has since become

:03:00. > :03:05.In 2015 David Cameron refused to follow the example of his

:03:06. > :03:07.predecessor as Prime Minister, Gordon Brown, and take part

:03:08. > :03:10.in a head-to-head discussion on the BBC with other party leaders.

:03:11. > :03:18.Five of whom appeared without him in a so-called challengers debate.

:03:19. > :03:21.Theresa May has followed his example and Jeremy Corbyn has said

:03:22. > :03:26.he won't take part in such a programme either, if she doesn't.

:03:27. > :03:29.So this time round we were told this week the BBC will be showing

:03:30. > :03:31.a debate featuring senior representatives from Labour,

:03:32. > :03:34.the Conservatives, the Liberal Democrats,

:03:35. > :03:39.the SNP, Plaid Cymru, Ukip and the Green party.

:03:40. > :03:41.The press release also announced Question Time specials and election

:03:42. > :03:43.questions programmes featuring separately the leaders

:03:44. > :03:46.of six of those parties, but not the Green party,

:03:47. > :03:53.to the annoyance of many viewers, including Christopher Corey.

:03:54. > :03:58.I understand that the BBC in their forthcoming election

:03:59. > :04:01.specials have invited Ukip to take part and have excluded

:04:02. > :04:11.I think this is unfair and ludicrous, to be honest.

:04:12. > :04:16.I am not a Green party supporter, and I am certainly not

:04:17. > :04:18.a Ukip supporter, however, I do think that the Green party

:04:19. > :04:21.should qualify far above Ukip to have their voice heard

:04:22. > :04:32.Other viewers were annoyed about the absence of a televised

:04:33. > :04:34.debate between the two main candidates to lead

:04:35. > :04:39.Some comparing it to the long established tradition of American

:04:40. > :04:44.presidential hopefuls squaring up to each other, a debate in March

:04:45. > :04:46.between the two leading candidates to become Prime Minister

:04:47. > :04:49.of the Netherlands, and the TV discussions before the recent

:04:50. > :04:56.If those countries can do it, wondered Terry Pearson,

:04:57. > :04:59.why should our potential leaders avoid that sort of scrutiny?

:05:00. > :05:02.Isn't it about time the BBC took on the clearly prepared Conservative

:05:03. > :05:08.strategy of not letting May face searching political questions?

:05:09. > :05:10.The One Show "Who takes out the bins?"

:05:11. > :05:14.I still don't understand why we will not see May

:05:15. > :05:20.If the BBC had seriously threatened to empty chair her,

:05:21. > :05:25.Well, let's discuss some of those issues with the BBC's

:05:26. > :05:27.head of news gathering, Jonathan Monroe.

:05:28. > :05:29.Jonathan, let's start with whether the BBC should have

:05:30. > :05:33.done more to try to get Theresa May to take part in a leaders debate

:05:34. > :05:36.by threatening to go ahead with her seat empty.

:05:37. > :05:38.Well, we're really disappointed the Prime Minister's not

:05:39. > :05:41.doing the leaders debate, we would have liked to have done

:05:42. > :05:43.a leaders debate featuring the party leaders themselves.

:05:44. > :05:45.The day after the Easter weekend the Prime Minister announced

:05:46. > :05:49.Number one, there would be a general election.

:05:50. > :05:51.And number two, she would not take part in television debates.

:05:52. > :05:54.And our judgment was that wasn't a negotiating position,

:05:55. > :05:58.So threatening to empty chair would have led to an empty chair.

:05:59. > :06:02.Ultimately, the viewer doesn't learn anything from an empty chair.

:06:03. > :06:04.She has paid no price for refusing the leaders debate.

:06:05. > :06:06.In fact, there she is on The One Show sofa,

:06:07. > :06:09.and viewers have said, whatever you say, they feel

:06:10. > :06:12.that's wrong, and maybe she would have given in.

:06:13. > :06:15.But she hasn't paid a price for saying no.

:06:16. > :06:17.We don't know she's not paid a price.

:06:18. > :06:20.Some viewers may decide that they're going to change their vote

:06:21. > :06:23.as a result of the strategy of the leaders of the election.

:06:24. > :06:27.But it doesn't help anybody to say that because the Prime Minister

:06:28. > :06:30.is going to appear in one format she can't therefore appear

:06:31. > :06:32.in other programmes, whether it's Question Time

:06:33. > :06:35.or election questions or Andrew Neil interviews.

:06:36. > :06:42.Or The One Show or Jeremy Vine or any of the other programmes that

:06:43. > :06:47.actually had leader debates, and people thought we were going

:06:48. > :06:53.It's a shame that we're not getting them.

:06:54. > :06:56.Basically what happened in 2010 is that all the main party

:06:57. > :06:59.leaders at the time, by which I mean just three of them,

:07:00. > :07:02.we didn't include the seven in 2010, they all felt, for whatever reason,

:07:03. > :07:05.it was in their interest, it was the right moment to say yes

:07:06. > :07:09.That changed by 2015 with, as you say, David Cameron not

:07:10. > :07:14.A very complicated negotiation then followed about exposure of parties

:07:15. > :07:19.We didn't have Nick Clegg in the TV debate either.

:07:20. > :07:22.And it has changed again this time round with the Prime Minister

:07:23. > :07:27.Let's hope we can get them back again in future elections.

:07:28. > :07:30.The BBC is going to run these special Question Time format

:07:31. > :07:32.programmes with individual party leaders and studio audience.

:07:33. > :07:34.At the start of this week the BBC said the Greens

:07:35. > :07:39.A lot of viewers complained to Newswatch.

:07:40. > :07:45.And they complained to us, too, and I've heard the comments your

:07:46. > :07:49.Let me explain the formula we use, not in too much detail.

:07:50. > :07:52.We are obliged by our regulations to take into account the electoral

:07:53. > :07:54.support over two election cycles, that means two general elections,

:07:55. > :07:58.in other words back to 2010, and all the elections that happened

:07:59. > :08:02.Lots of local elections in that time, obviously,

:08:03. > :08:06.If you take all those figures, the Ukip support over that period

:08:07. > :08:09.is significantly greater than the Greens.

:08:10. > :08:12.The Greens have been stable but very low.

:08:13. > :08:16.We saw, as you know, a week or so ago, they didn't do

:08:17. > :08:20.But over the seven-year period we are obliged to count,

:08:21. > :08:25.But when you apply that format to the schedule,

:08:26. > :08:30.the programmes we are actually going to make, we do think

:08:31. > :08:32.in retrospect, actually, that the gap between what Ukip

:08:33. > :08:35.is getting and what the Greens are getting is too great,

:08:36. > :08:38.so we're going to make a change and we've invited the Green party

:08:39. > :08:41.in the last 24 hours to take part in an extra programme

:08:42. > :08:43.in the elections questions format in the last weekend

:08:44. > :08:47.They've accepted that and we're really pleased to have

:08:48. > :08:50.that extra programme going into the BBC One schedule.

:08:51. > :08:53.So you've either caved in to pressure or you got it wrong.

:08:54. > :08:57.We're not going to cave in to pressure from political parties.

:08:58. > :08:59.We looked at the schedule in retrospect, what we'd lined up,

:09:00. > :09:02.and the differences between the parties.

:09:03. > :09:04.There were two differences, effectively, that the Greens

:09:05. > :09:09.One was the Question Time elections questions programmes,

:09:10. > :09:13.The other was the series of Andrew Neil interviews,

:09:14. > :09:16.which are going out the week after next on BBC One.

:09:17. > :09:19.So what we've done is we said to the Green party, we think

:09:20. > :09:22.the gap's too great at the moment, but you can't have equivalents

:09:23. > :09:25.to the other parties because of that electoral support issue.

:09:26. > :09:27.So we've given them, we hope, a good compromise

:09:28. > :09:30.and an offer I'm really pleased to say they've accepted.

:09:31. > :09:35.Away from the election, shock were created this week

:09:36. > :09:38.by President Trump's sacking of the FBI director James Comey.

:09:39. > :09:41.The White House has said he was fired because he'd

:09:42. > :09:44.mishandled the investigation into Hillary Clinton's

:09:45. > :09:49.Here's Jon Sopel on Wednesday night's News at Ten.

:09:50. > :09:52.But if it really is all about the way the FBI conducted

:09:53. > :09:54.the Hillary Clinton investigation, why sack him now?

:09:55. > :09:59.Why not do it when Donald Trump first came to office?

:10:00. > :10:02.And how do you reconcile it with the praise that was

:10:03. > :10:07.Roger Witt from Poole felt there was a lack

:10:08. > :10:10.of balance in the reporting of Mr Comey's sacking.

:10:11. > :10:14.I'm struggling to understand why the BBC should imply that the reason

:10:15. > :10:17.behind it is the fact that the bureau were closing

:10:18. > :10:22.Yes, it's what the Democrats say, but without any evidence.

:10:23. > :10:26.In months of investigation, Comey has produced no evidence either,

:10:27. > :10:30.so I'm curious as to what facts the BBC is privy to.

:10:31. > :10:33.Or is the corporation merely reporting selective rumour?

:10:34. > :10:36.Finally, Alexander Blackman, known as Marine A, was freed two

:10:37. > :10:39.weeks ago after serving three years in prison for killing a wounded

:10:40. > :10:45.An incident recorded on a helmet camera.

:10:46. > :10:47.On Tuesday, Clinton Rogers met the former Royal Marine

:10:48. > :10:54.To be fair, you can put quite a few different spins on what's said.

:10:55. > :10:58.And unless you were actually there, you don't know the full story.

:10:59. > :11:04.Obviously, I told my version of events when I was at trial.

:11:05. > :11:05.Hindsight is a wonderful thing, and given especially what's

:11:06. > :11:08.happened to us in our life, if you could go back,

:11:09. > :11:17.One viewer was watching that and the her response for us on camera.

:11:18. > :11:21.I have absolutely no sympathy with the allegiances

:11:22. > :11:25.of his Taliban victim, but allowing the man who breached

:11:26. > :11:28.the Geneva Convention and killed and injured prisoner of war

:11:29. > :11:33.to justify himself in this way is disgusting.

:11:34. > :11:36.He was provided with a platform and allowed to minimise his actions

:11:37. > :11:44.and suggest there was justification not known to the general public.

:11:45. > :11:47.Thanks for all your comments this week.

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