08/12/2017

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0:00:00 > 0:00:03Now on BBC News, it's time for Newswatch.

0:00:11 > 0:00:15Hello, and welcome to Newswatch with me, Samira Ahmed. Coming up... The

0:00:15 > 0:00:18News at ten can't tell the difference between three Bollywood

0:00:18 > 0:00:23actors in reporting the death of film star Usher Kapoor. And how the

0:00:23 > 0:00:30BBC is sending journalists into schools to tackle fake news. First,

0:00:30 > 0:00:35how the death of the renowned Indian actor Shashi Kapoor was covered on

0:00:35 > 0:00:41the News at ten this week. The BBC chose to play on the very brief

0:00:41 > 0:00:46footage as Huw Edwards announced the star had died aged 79. But neither

0:00:46 > 0:00:51of the actors show work Shashi Kapoor.The veteran Indian actor

0:00:51 > 0:00:56Shashi Kapoor has died in hospital in Mumbai at the age of 79.

0:01:01 > 0:01:06One of India's greatest acting families, he appeared in more than

0:01:06 > 0:01:10150 films, including a dozen in English. He starred in some of the

0:01:10 > 0:01:15biggest Hollywood blockbusters of the 1970s and 80s.Many viewers

0:01:15 > 0:01:20noticed and complained on social media, and the programme's editor

0:01:20 > 0:01:24Paul Royal College on Twitter shortly after. -- apologised on

0:01:24 > 0:01:26Twitter.

0:01:32 > 0:01:40And on the following night, on the News at ten, the word is apologised

0:01:40 > 0:01:43and yen over photographs of Shashi Kapoor -- Huw Edwards apologised.

0:01:43 > 0:01:49They confirmed that mistakes were due to human error at.Last night we

0:01:49 > 0:01:53showed the wrong images, which we apologised. The actor appeared in

0:01:53 > 0:01:58more than 150 films, including another of English-language

0:01:58 > 0:02:01productions. Shashi Kapoor won numerous acting prizes during his

0:02:01 > 0:02:06long career, as well as one of India's highest civilian award.

0:02:06 > 0:02:11Well, the BBC said sorry. Was that good enough? Many viewers got in

0:02:11 > 0:02:14touch to question how such a mistake could be made. Nadia Hussain

0:02:14 > 0:02:16e-mail...

0:02:28 > 0:02:32And Art Patel was not impressed either...A lot of people who watch

0:02:32 > 0:02:37Bollywood movies, it's part of that cultural history, identity, they

0:02:37 > 0:02:41would find this very upsetting. It's not very nice to show another actor

0:02:41 > 0:02:45who is also a very big part of many people's identity and culture to be

0:02:45 > 0:02:50in the opening clip as opposed to the person who passed away, Shashi

0:02:50 > 0:02:54Kapoor. Shashi Kapoor is completely different, for the BBC not to do

0:02:54 > 0:02:59this distinction right from the off is very inconsiderate.The newspaper

0:02:59 > 0:03:03review on the Andrew Marr Show got rather heated last Sunday, leading

0:03:03 > 0:03:06some viewers to question whether Andrew Marr had control over the

0:03:06 > 0:03:12panel. Ukip's former leader Nigel Farage, a former Labour adviser and

0:03:12 > 0:03:19Kate Andrews from the Institute of Economic Affairs were on the sofa.

0:03:19 > 0:03:23The freeze, take back control, take back control and give it to the

0:03:23 > 0:03:27Irish, you know, we are in such a. Well, that's why we're going to talk

0:03:27 > 0:03:36about, we have to stand upOK guys, guysBrexit is failing because of

0:03:36 > 0:03:40the government. It's an absolute waste of timeGraham Lee's e-mail to

0:03:40 > 0:03:42say...

0:03:55 > 0:03:59And Monte Hellman called in... Andrew Marr was unable to control

0:03:59 > 0:04:07them. As a licence payer, somebody who just wants information and to

0:04:07 > 0:04:13learn something from these people, this contributes nothing.Now, the

0:04:13 > 0:04:17term fake news may have first been popularised by Donald Trump Geraint

0:04:17 > 0:04:22his presidential election campaign, but it's become a major concern, not

0:04:22 > 0:04:25just because politicians throw it at journalism they don't like, but also

0:04:25 > 0:04:29because of the evidence of fake stories created and spread,

0:04:29 > 0:04:33especially through social media platforms, noticeably in the run-up

0:04:33 > 0:04:37to the US election. How easy is it just got fake news? There has been

0:04:37 > 0:04:42rapid change in how young people consume news, and the BBC has

0:04:42 > 0:04:47started a scheme to help secondary school pupils identify it. The BBC's

0:04:47 > 0:04:52editor and roll Rajan spoke at six formers in Kent.How do you consume

0:04:52 > 0:04:56news everyday?I'll be honest, mainly through SnapChat.Put your

0:04:56 > 0:05:01hand up if you are an Snapchat.To gauge the news literacy, we showed

0:05:01 > 0:05:06the pupils an image that was shed thousands of time on social media.

0:05:06 > 0:05:10It depicts a Muslim woman pictured after the Westminster Bridge terror

0:05:10 > 0:05:14attacks, yeah, she seems like she's not caring. But this was fake news.

0:05:14 > 0:05:19The image was attached to it wit from an account linked to Russia,

0:05:19 > 0:05:22and our pupils did detect anti-Muslim prejudice.I think if

0:05:22 > 0:05:26she was of a different race this treat would never have been put out.

0:05:26 > 0:05:32It's really Rob that people feel the need to do that.From March, up to

0:05:32 > 0:05:371000 schools will be offered meant to ring in class, online or at

0:05:37 > 0:05:42events by BBC journalists, including the likes of Huw Edwards and the

0:05:42 > 0:05:46BBC's economic editor Kamal Ahmed, and he joins us now. Have you ever

0:05:46 > 0:05:51been caught out by fake news?I don't think so, no. Obviously we do

0:05:51 > 0:05:54our best to make sure that we're not.

0:05:54 > 0:06:02I was once almost caught out.

0:06:02 > 0:06:04A Mark Carney Twitter feed started, who's the Governor of the Bank

0:06:04 > 0:06:08of England, and I must admit, for a moment I thought, my goodness,

0:06:08 > 0:06:10the Governor of the Bank of England is going to start tweeting.

0:06:10 > 0:06:13That was the only time I thought to myself,

0:06:13 > 0:06:14check yourself, Kamal!

0:06:14 > 0:06:15Is that really believable?

0:06:15 > 0:06:17I think when you're thinking about fake news, that is probably

0:06:17 > 0:06:18the first thing to do.

0:06:18 > 0:06:21Is what you're seeing really believable?

0:06:21 > 0:06:24And as soon as you've checked, is Mark Carney going to be

0:06:24 > 0:06:26on Twitter anywhere else, everyone was saying, well,

0:06:26 > 0:06:29of course, the Governor of the Bank of England can do that.

0:06:29 > 0:06:30-- cannot do that.

0:06:30 > 0:06:33So I think it's thinking about, what's the source of the story,

0:06:33 > 0:06:36does it look believable, is it being reported anywhere else?

0:06:36 > 0:06:39And I suppose the responsibility is on us as the BBC to help people

0:06:39 > 0:06:41navigate this new world of news that they live in.

0:06:41 > 0:06:43Well, let's talk about that, because people might say,

0:06:43 > 0:06:50why does the BBC feel it needs to do anything about this?

0:06:50 > 0:06:53I think we do have a role, if the BBC's role, its mission,

0:06:53 > 0:06:56is to educate, inform and entertain, educate is part of what we do,

0:06:56 > 0:06:59and I think it's an important part of the conversation.

0:06:59 > 0:07:02And also I think, Samira, for us, we need to listen as well.

0:07:02 > 0:07:03We need to listen to young people.

0:07:03 > 0:07:05Amol Rajan's piece there was very interesting,

0:07:05 > 0:07:07what people felt about some of the news information

0:07:07 > 0:07:08they were being given.

0:07:08 > 0:07:10So it's a learning exercise for us as well.

0:07:10 > 0:07:13Let's look at a couple of the things you mentioned there.

0:07:13 > 0:07:16We saw Amol going into schools, as you said, what actually

0:07:16 > 0:07:19are people like him and you doing when you do go into them?

0:07:19 > 0:07:22Well, I'm going back to my old school in the New Year in London.

0:07:22 > 0:07:26I think what I would love to do, and I think this is what the BBC

0:07:26 > 0:07:29is planning, is just go through some of those stories and talk

0:07:29 > 0:07:31to the young people, the sixth formers and others,

0:07:31 > 0:07:34about what they think about the news coverage and how it works.

0:07:34 > 0:07:36And do they think about, is it fake news?

0:07:36 > 0:07:38Is a deliberately misleading piece of information?

0:07:38 > 0:07:40And how can you check whether it is?

0:07:40 > 0:07:41It's very clear that young audiences, particularly

0:07:41 > 0:07:44in their teens and early 20s, they don't consume traditional

0:07:44 > 0:07:51curated TV news bulletins like we all used to.

0:07:51 > 0:07:54Do BBC editors understand their world enough?

0:07:54 > 0:07:55The BBC certainly does.

0:07:55 > 0:08:00I would not claim myself that we should say, we understand

0:08:00 > 0:08:01the world that young people live in.

0:08:01 > 0:08:03But certainly we have all sorts of content

0:08:03 > 0:08:09on Facebook and on Twitter, on Instagram, we have a piece of our

0:08:09 > 0:08:11of our organisation called News Labs, which looks

0:08:11 > 0:08:13at how news is shared and different ways on mobile.

0:08:13 > 0:08:16Newsbeat and Newsround, they are on lots of these

0:08:16 > 0:08:20social media outlets.

0:08:20 > 0:08:24In terms of who you send out to spread that message,

0:08:24 > 0:08:27if you don't mind me saying so, apart from Tina Hayley,

0:08:27 > 0:08:30who has worked on Radio One, one might think you're not actually

0:08:30 > 0:08:31of that generation.

0:08:31 > 0:08:33You know, who would be the right people to be sending,

0:08:33 > 0:08:35and is it people like you?

0:08:35 > 0:08:38Well, I think it's young people, but I think it's about showing

0:08:38 > 0:08:40that the BBC takes it seriously at whatever level of its

0:08:40 > 0:08:43organisation you happen to be and whatever age you are.

0:08:43 > 0:08:45I'm certainly no celebrity, and I wouldn't claim that I am,

0:08:45 > 0:08:49but I think I work at the front line for the BBC in economics,

0:08:49 > 0:08:52which lots of young people talk about and are very interested in -

0:08:52 > 0:08:53intergenerational unfairness, inequality, those type of issues

0:08:53 > 0:08:56are issues that I cover.

0:08:56 > 0:08:59And I think if I can help people navigate that

0:08:59 > 0:09:01and also listen to that, I think that is of advantage,

0:09:01 > 0:09:06I hope, to them, and it certainly will be to us.

0:09:06 > 0:09:13Kamal Ahmed, thank you. The tone of Brexit coverage is a regular issue

0:09:13 > 0:09:18with Newswatch viewers. This week, breakfast presenter Charlie Stayt's

0:09:18 > 0:09:23interview with Transport Secretary Chris Grayling about Brexit

0:09:23 > 0:09:26negotiations came in for criticism by several viewers who thought it

0:09:26 > 0:09:31was hostile.I'm not sure what your role was today in being sent out and

0:09:31 > 0:09:34doing media interviews, I know you are doing the rounds today, this is

0:09:34 > 0:09:38how this works, but was your job to reassure people that everything is

0:09:38 > 0:09:41going well and everything is in hand, because I'm not sure that you

0:09:41 > 0:09:48have done that?My job is to say to people, we are in the middle of a

0:09:48 > 0:09:50negotiation, it's a complex negotiation, negotiations have their

0:09:50 > 0:09:57ups and downs, we are confident that we will move... Dogra Charlie Stayt

0:09:57 > 0:09:59conducted the most appalling interview with the trance but

0:09:59 > 0:10:04secretary Dogra Chris Grayling, he was rude and arrogant and often

0:10:04 > 0:10:09aggressive. Surely Charlie Stayt does not expect the Government to

0:10:09 > 0:10:17reveal their strategy on live TV for the world to C, yet he continuously

0:10:17 > 0:10:22pressed Mr Grayling over and over again, becoming increasingly rude

0:10:22 > 0:10:25and offering his own sarcastic responses when he didn't get the

0:10:25 > 0:10:29answers that he was looking for. I'm surprised that Mr Grayling did not

0:10:29 > 0:10:35storm of the set. I would like to think that BBC reporters can show

0:10:35 > 0:10:38some respect that guests, unfortunately it is becoming clear

0:10:38 > 0:10:43that this is not the case.Christine Keeler, embroiled in the 1960 the

0:10:43 > 0:10:48Profumo scandal which was a young woman, died this week aged 75. The

0:10:48 > 0:10:52then teenager was the centre of the news media frenzy over her brief

0:10:52 > 0:10:57relationship with a Government minister, John Profumo, which shut

0:10:57 > 0:11:01Harold Macmillan's government. Jack Wheeler tweeted his discomfort with

0:11:01 > 0:11:05the language used to describe her on news obituaries.

0:11:17 > 0:11:21And that's all from us. Thank you for all your comments this week. If

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