Episode 6

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0:00:02 > 0:00:05Tonight, we're asking, where is our money?

0:00:05 > 0:00:08We were promised a billion by the DUP.

0:00:08 > 0:00:10When are we getting it?

0:00:10 > 0:00:13Ex-England international Paul Stewart is with us in studio

0:00:13 > 0:00:17to tell us about his experience of sexual abuse in football.

0:00:17 > 0:00:22And the golden boy of Irish country music, Derek Ryan, is here.

0:00:49 > 0:00:54Good evening. We are live on BBC One.

0:00:54 > 0:00:55OK, let's get started.

0:00:55 > 0:00:57As you will all have heard, Theresa May wrote us

0:00:57 > 0:01:03a £50 million cheque this week -

0:01:03 > 0:01:08That was good of you, to reason, thank you, but where is the rest?

0:01:08 > 0:01:14But where is the other £950 million, Theresa?

0:01:14 > 0:01:19James Brokenshire, where is our money and, the DUP, where is our

0:01:19 > 0:01:23money, because you did the deal? Deprived communities, and I want you

0:01:23 > 0:01:28to think about this, but I'm not too sure there has been enough attention

0:01:28 > 0:01:33on this. Let's look at it. Deprived communities in Northern Ireland were

0:01:33 > 0:01:41promised, as part of this Tory deal, £20 million a year for five years.

0:01:41 > 0:01:46That's 100 million. Have you heard that being mentioned about what's

0:01:46 > 0:01:50been delivered? No. Where is it? This programme will represent

0:01:50 > 0:01:53deprived communities, and they've been forgotten within any of these

0:01:53 > 0:01:58announcements. Guess what else we haven't heard about, the promise

0:01:58 > 0:02:04that was made by the Tory government to the DUP, as part of their

0:02:04 > 0:02:07negotiation, about mental health. Very important to us in this

0:02:07 > 0:02:14country. They were promised £10 million a year for five years. So

0:02:14 > 0:02:18you might have expected we'd be told by now, because by next March that

0:02:18 > 0:02:23the end of the financial year, where the mental health resulting money

0:02:23 > 0:02:30is. It hasn't been announced. Meanwhile, the DUP continues to

0:02:30 > 0:02:34support the Tory government. When are we getting our money? All we can

0:02:34 > 0:02:40hope for is that the 50 million of this week will get past through

0:02:40 > 0:02:45Westminster, at a date that is still to be decided, and the other 50

0:02:45 > 0:02:49million of emergency money, that comes through next year, but don't

0:02:49 > 0:02:53be getting that mixed up with deprived communities. Their money

0:02:53 > 0:02:56hasn't been announced. Don't be thinking that mental health resource

0:02:56 > 0:03:00think that was promised... That hasn't been announced either, and

0:03:00 > 0:03:04this programme is making issue of it tonight. If a deal is a deal, where

0:03:04 > 0:03:09is the money? In terms of the other £950 million that Northern Ireland

0:03:09 > 0:03:15was promised, there is no timetable for that. Back in June, we were told

0:03:15 > 0:03:20we were getting that £1 billion, and we were told where it was going to

0:03:20 > 0:03:27go. Let's look at the breakdown. Health forced to get a minimum of

0:03:27 > 0:03:32£250 million, with £200 million directly to the health service. £50

0:03:32 > 0:03:36million towards mental health provision and, as we've said, it

0:03:36 > 0:03:40hasn't been mentioned about the year one money. Is that acceptable to

0:03:40 > 0:03:48you? £50 million to address immediate pressures. Where is all of

0:03:48 > 0:03:59this money? Arlene Foster, you did the deal with the Tory government.

0:03:59 > 0:04:03Deprived communities, Arlene Mental health, Arlene

0:04:03 > 0:04:05Deprived communities, Arlene Mental health, Arlene. Where is the money

0:04:05 > 0:04:07for this country, because you continue to back the Tory

0:04:07 > 0:04:18government? Education, £50 million to address immediate issues. Let's

0:04:18 > 0:04:21have a look at infrastructure. We are promised £400 million for

0:04:21 > 0:04:25projects including delivery of the York Street Interchange.

0:04:25 > 0:04:30James Brokenshire, what is the timetable?

0:04:30 > 0:04:35Are you going to give us one or is this country just to continue, if

0:04:35 > 0:04:39you are a DUP supporter, to prop up your government, and there is no

0:04:39 > 0:04:44actual timetable delivered for when this country gets the money that it

0:04:44 > 0:04:49desperately needs? Could you not at least set out a timetable in terms

0:04:49 > 0:04:56of business and the prosperity for the economy we were promised? We

0:04:56 > 0:04:58were promised £150 million to provide ultrafast broadband across

0:04:58 > 0:05:05Northern Ireland. What's the timetable? Can businesses rely on

0:05:05 > 0:05:09it? When are we going to get it? Finally, let's come back once again

0:05:09 > 0:05:18to that deprivation figure. Look at what it says. We are supposed to get

0:05:18 > 0:05:20100 million, keyword, annually. We are supposed to get it annually over

0:05:20 > 0:05:32five years and, at year one, it hasn't been announced. Mark Durkan,

0:05:32 > 0:05:35deprived communities, some of the people who are the most vulnerable

0:05:35 > 0:05:41in Northern Ireland, and it just hasn't been announced?Well, that

0:05:41 > 0:05:46sometimes happens in terms of budget terms, and I don't want to get into

0:05:46 > 0:05:50all the technocratics of it but often, when announcements are made,

0:05:50 > 0:05:53people find that the money is going to come there and then. I think

0:05:53 > 0:05:57there is confusion as well because people have seen this week a bill

0:05:57 > 0:06:01going through Westminster that has been called the budget bill, which

0:06:01 > 0:06:06isn't about next year's budget but is about tidying up and sorting out

0:06:06 > 0:06:10the rest of this year's budget. My assumption was always that it would

0:06:10 > 0:06:14be after Philip Hammond does his first budget of this Parliament that

0:06:14 > 0:06:24we would see more of the money, but we don't know. Also, we need to

0:06:24 > 0:06:28remember that we are not just talking about £1 billion of public

0:06:28 > 0:06:33expenditure. People go on about the so-called DUP money, as if that is

0:06:33 > 0:06:37the sole total of public expenditure. We need to look after

0:06:37 > 0:06:41all of the budget and make sure it is all well spent and better

0:06:41 > 0:06:45prioritised, especially in the context of exits, which is why we

0:06:45 > 0:06:50need an assembly. -- in the context of Brexit. Scrapping around for

0:06:50 > 0:06:55deals with Tory ministers is all well and good, but what we need is

0:06:55 > 0:06:58proper oversight of a full Northern Ireland budget. We shouldn't be

0:06:58 > 0:07:04assessing just on this £1 billion. There is all of the other budget.I

0:07:04 > 0:07:08get that, but I'm going to obsess on it for at least the next few

0:07:08 > 0:07:13minutes. Should there be some sort of worry in this community that

0:07:13 > 0:07:17deprived communities, mental health has not been mentioned here? You

0:07:17 > 0:07:23know, the financial year ends in April.Seat like Mark, some of this

0:07:23 > 0:07:30money will be there in future years. But year one!There isn't a

0:07:30 > 0:07:33government in place to spend the money, and that is a sad reality we

0:07:33 > 0:07:37have to get to grips with. The money coming this late in the year, we

0:07:37 > 0:07:42will struggle to spend it without ministers to make decisions.I don't

0:07:42 > 0:07:45want this to get tied up in confusion. They have made an

0:07:45 > 0:07:50announcement about health and education. Why, within that

0:07:50 > 0:07:56announcement, did they not make the year one promised announcement about

0:07:56 > 0:08:01mental health and deprived communities? Where is that money?

0:08:01 > 0:08:07Let's take two examples. Talking about deprived communities, today we

0:08:07 > 0:08:10have figures in terms of unemployment and economic activity,

0:08:10 > 0:08:14and we have the highest levels of economic inactivity in the UK. There

0:08:14 > 0:08:18was a strong case for spending money and I put this the executive in

0:08:18 > 0:08:23April 20 16th and it sat on the shelf, unimplemented we can get to

0:08:23 > 0:08:28grips with that straightaway. We have a high incidence of mental

0:08:28 > 0:08:32health issues than anywhere else in the UK, partly the legacy of the

0:08:32 > 0:08:36Troubles, but we spend less per head on mental health than any other

0:08:36 > 0:08:39jurisdiction.I'll go to the audience. Where are we going? This

0:08:39 > 0:08:44guy in the classes.I think we need to take this out of Northern

0:08:44 > 0:08:51Ireland, and the fact is that the DUP made this deal for the extra £1

0:08:51 > 0:08:56billion. Our politicians are not working together...We asked you,

0:08:56 > 0:09:03Sinn Fein, to come in and talk and, no.The DUP want to grow a set, go

0:09:03 > 0:09:07to the Prime Minister and say, if you are going to give us your money,

0:09:07 > 0:09:11we are not giving you supply and confidence. ... The DUP would say

0:09:11 > 0:09:14that this announcement of the £50 million this year is a sign that is

0:09:14 > 0:09:22coming. Reed where is the other 950 million? I know what you're saying,

0:09:22 > 0:09:26Mark, there is a process of things that need to be gone through, but I

0:09:26 > 0:09:28grew up in deprived areas and I've seen what's happened with mental

0:09:28 > 0:09:33health was it a disgrace. This country is at its knees. Politicians

0:09:33 > 0:09:39just are not speaking to each other. We need to say to the DUP, give us

0:09:39 > 0:09:45the money or that's it, simple as. Have I communicated tonight that the

0:09:45 > 0:09:48year one money, which ends next March, there was a specific promise

0:09:48 > 0:09:56to give money to deprived, for deprivation, and for mental health.

0:09:56 > 0:10:04You get that? And they haven't announced it, and it's November.

0:10:04 > 0:10:07Yes, and as you say the financial year ends in a few months, so what's

0:10:07 > 0:10:10going to happen? Is that bill going to be passed? Will that money be

0:10:10 > 0:10:15here before March? You talk about the processes we have to go through

0:10:15 > 0:10:22the you know, how long do we have to wait for this money?Bernard

0:10:22 > 0:10:25McAnanny, you former head of the western trust. What situation are we

0:10:25 > 0:10:36in here and how desperate are we?I am currently chairman of the

0:10:36 > 0:10:40organisation Aware and I'm here in that capacity. Hardly a day goes by

0:10:40 > 0:10:46without mental health issues being discussed in one former shape or

0:10:46 > 0:10:50another, and the profile of mental health, the need and understanding

0:10:50 > 0:10:54around it, has never been higher. Stigma, which is still a problem, is

0:10:54 > 0:10:58not what it was like years ago, thanks to shows like your own one.

0:10:58 > 0:11:04The problem is that, with the relaxing stigma and a better

0:11:04 > 0:11:06understanding of mental health services and need, demand is up, and

0:11:06 > 0:11:11the demand is there at the moment. There is probably not a trust in

0:11:11 > 0:11:16Northern Ireland that couldn't spend the money. What a pro but you have

0:11:16 > 0:11:20been promised millions, as in mental health has been promised millions.

0:11:20 > 0:11:26--but you have been promised millions.Let's take that back. We

0:11:26 > 0:11:29should have an opportunity to spend the money at the beginning of the

0:11:29 > 0:11:35year. You should be able to plan services. A big issue for the

0:11:35 > 0:11:38independent sector is sustainability, getting money on a

0:11:38 > 0:11:41short-term basis, money being thrown at you with two months left in the

0:11:41 > 0:11:44year and you have to go and provide services, to employ people in the

0:11:44 > 0:11:49short term. If we have a five-year spending cycle, the sooner we get an

0:11:49 > 0:11:52integration is going to happen, the better.The money hasn't been

0:11:52 > 0:11:59announced.And yet is nearly over. What do you think is going on?I've

0:11:59 > 0:12:05no idea.Arlene Foster, could you tell us, as the lead of the DUP,

0:12:05 > 0:12:09former First Minister of this country? You did a deal that is

0:12:09 > 0:12:14propping up the Tory party. Where is the money for mental health? Where

0:12:14 > 0:12:28is the announcement? Maybe you can tell us about where is this

0:12:28 > 0:12:33country's money.It's quite important to say that this is up and

0:12:33 > 0:12:36above the £11 billion block grant we already get from Westminster. Give

0:12:36 > 0:12:42me two seconds. Do you want me to answer the question question mark 11

0:12:42 > 0:12:44million, sorry, 11 billion of a block grant, this is an additional

0:12:44 > 0:12:50money that has been promised. The government promised that, but it

0:12:50 > 0:12:54will come. The problem being that that deal was done on the proviso

0:12:54 > 0:12:57that Stormont was going to get up and running. Our local politicians,

0:12:57 > 0:13:02the understanding was that our local politicians would disperse that

0:13:02 > 0:13:04money properly and rightly throughout the department they were

0:13:04 > 0:13:08in charge of. They have let down the people of Northern Ireland. I

0:13:08 > 0:13:13appreciate we need a timescale on government. And we don't have it.

0:13:13 > 0:13:18And James Brokenshire sends us to number ten. When we go to the MIO,

0:13:18 > 0:13:23they say, go to Number Ten.I thought the odd was that the money

0:13:23 > 0:13:27isn't being withheld. That it's going to flow. -- I thought the

0:13:27 > 0:13:33argument.But they are thing is being deliberately repelled.What

0:13:33 > 0:13:40I'm saying is that I would rather wait and make sure that that money,

0:13:40 > 0:13:43that £1 billion is spent properly, in the right direction, then just

0:13:43 > 0:13:49bring it in and let it be wasted.

0:13:49 > 0:13:51You cannot wait because your

0:13:51 > 0:13:54You cannot wait because your party made a promise in terms of

0:13:54 > 0:13:57deprivation and mental health. You have got four months to deliver it,

0:13:57 > 0:14:07where is it?The deal was done in June, July.It would be the end of

0:14:07 > 0:14:09the financial year.James Brokenshire has put a budget and

0:14:09 > 0:14:25that was for last year. The local politicians could not agree.Why

0:14:25 > 0:14:29announce £50 million? That is the heart of the confusion. If money is

0:14:29 > 0:14:36being withheld, or if it is all on the table, by some as being held

0:14:36 > 0:14:45back, why is being released?You have asked a few times for Arlene to

0:14:45 > 0:14:51come in and talk to the people of this province and she has refused.

0:14:51 > 0:14:55Anyone from the DUP and Sinn Fein are not here either.The only person

0:14:55 > 0:14:58who can answer the questions as Eileen, to tell us what is

0:14:58 > 0:15:06happening. This money coming from London is a drop in the ocean. It

0:15:06 > 0:15:08will not help us. It will probably not get passed through Parliament

0:15:08 > 0:15:12till next year. Things will get worse. Waiting lists will get

0:15:12 > 0:15:21longer. Mental health will go down the road. We need to hear, the only

0:15:21 > 0:15:25one person who can tell us what is happening is Arlene Foster.Maybe

0:15:25 > 0:15:30you should trust that DUP's negotiating skills because they

0:15:30 > 0:15:34secured the 1 billion as part of the year and Nigel Dodds was recently

0:15:34 > 0:15:40named Michael sheet of the year.To be quite honest, she has

0:15:40 > 0:15:47disappeared. She will not come on this programme. I have not heard

0:15:47 > 0:15:51from her in months. She is the only woman who can answer the question

0:15:51 > 0:15:57is, when this money is coming, how much will we get? This 50 million is

0:15:57 > 0:16:03a drop in the ocean.Like the talks at Stormont over the last six months

0:16:03 > 0:16:09this deal was done behind closed doors between the Tory Government

0:16:09 > 0:16:14and the DUP. I do not believe there is a timetable. I was with James

0:16:14 > 0:16:17Brokenshire today after the deal was announced and I had the

0:16:17 > 0:16:21understanding it was predicated on a Stormont executive with ministers

0:16:21 > 0:16:27coming into place. It is a disgrace. We have some of the most vulnerable

0:16:27 > 0:16:30people in the UK living in Northern Ireland, some of the worst mental

0:16:30 > 0:16:36health in Western Europe. These people could be helped by this

0:16:36 > 0:16:41money. There is no timetable. And there was it would be announced, the

0:16:41 > 0:16:47DUP would come out loudly and proudly.I am sorry, but there is a

0:16:47 > 0:16:54timetable. Where is that? I know I am being repetitive tonight,.But

0:16:54 > 0:16:59there was a promise made to this country in terms of deprivation and

0:16:59 > 0:17:03mental health that they would get some of this money in year one. I

0:17:03 > 0:17:08has not been a nice? What do we think about this at home? Suicide

0:17:08 > 0:17:15rates in this country, quite if you will have been touched by that and

0:17:15 > 0:17:19it is obviously devastating for any family in this country. Those are

0:17:19 > 0:17:23the families who I am talking on behalf of tonight. Where is their

0:17:23 > 0:17:30money? Deprivation. It is not beer. My chances for kids who do not have

0:17:30 > 0:17:35as much money in their pocket. Areas of deprivation that could do with

0:17:35 > 0:17:39the money. There has been a deal done. Deliver on that is surely what

0:17:39 > 0:17:43a lot of people in this country would be saying, or at least explain

0:17:43 > 0:17:50why you are not delivering.When was the last time the DUP was on this

0:17:50 > 0:17:56programme or any programme? They have a responsibility to the people

0:17:56 > 0:18:02of Northern Ireland to tell us.Let me be fair to the DUP, they have

0:18:02 > 0:18:06been on other BBC programmes, they are not keen to talk to me at the

0:18:06 > 0:18:11moment, that is the nicest way I can tell it. I will continue to talk to

0:18:11 > 0:18:14the people of Northern Ireland whether they talk to me or not.Go

0:18:14 > 0:18:22ahead. I just wanted to reiterate how urgent the situation is in the

0:18:22 > 0:18:28health service in Northern Ireland at the moment. I am a GP working in

0:18:28 > 0:18:31Fermanagh, neighbouring doctors have retired, it is impossible to recruit

0:18:31 > 0:18:36new doctors in our area, general practice is under intolerable

0:18:36 > 0:18:42stress, we are finding ourselves fighting to try and get services for

0:18:42 > 0:18:45our patients who are on these increasingly lengthening waiting

0:18:45 > 0:18:49lists. That money that has been promised that it should be getting

0:18:49 > 0:18:54through this urgently needed rate now. The politicians in some ways

0:18:54 > 0:19:00are semidetached from the reality of what we are facing every day. Trying

0:19:00 > 0:19:03to explain to patients where they are in these long waiting lists.

0:19:03 > 0:19:10What is your first name?John. I am not sure, I have seen some of that

0:19:10 > 0:19:15class, I am not sure if the people at home realise what is facing them

0:19:15 > 0:19:19in terms of waiting lists next year. They are hearing some pessimistic

0:19:19 > 0:19:25news about waiting lists are going up. I am starting to talk to people

0:19:25 > 0:19:30who are contacting me through the radio show and other shores, people

0:19:30 > 0:19:35who are in desperate pain, and they are being told they need to wait one

0:19:35 > 0:19:40year, are you saying that?People who are waiting are then developing

0:19:40 > 0:19:44more mental health issues because they are in such pain and under such

0:19:44 > 0:19:50pressure, week after week, patients are coming into me, can you not get

0:19:50 > 0:19:55something more done for me? Then patients are wondering why they are

0:19:55 > 0:19:59waiting so long to see a Dr. The reason is that the scene patients

0:19:59 > 0:20:02that should have been dealt with first time keep recycling back to

0:20:02 > 0:20:12the GP again, you have not sorted me out.Are you not confident that that

0:20:12 > 0:20:18money will be secured and delivered on time? DUP has a lot of leverage.

0:20:18 > 0:20:22They are keeping Theresa May in power.It is one thing to talk about

0:20:22 > 0:20:27the extra quantum of money that the DUP are supposedly going to get.

0:20:27 > 0:20:31There is the entire point about the totality of the entire budget that

0:20:31 > 0:20:37has to cover all of the services because the DUP 1 billion will not

0:20:37 > 0:20:41relieve all of the people who are facing all of the pressures on the

0:20:41 > 0:20:44front line service providers, and the people depending on those

0:20:44 > 0:20:49services. That this right we need complete control over a complete

0:20:49 > 0:20:59budget

0:21:02 > 0:21:04that is accountable, that describe you need a functioning Assembly.It

0:21:04 > 0:21:07is all very real debating who is and who is not here, in an Assembly

0:21:07 > 0:21:10people have to turn up, ministers have to be responsible for their

0:21:10 > 0:21:12allocation. Is it totally necessary for people to agree with what you

0:21:12 > 0:21:18are saying, civil servants can make the decision?James Brokenshire

0:21:18 > 0:21:24could make the decision. N last week, it was just a tidy up, there

0:21:24 > 0:21:30is not even a budget for next year. How are we going to meet those

0:21:30 > 0:21:35pressures in terms of mental health and other health issues? People say

0:21:35 > 0:21:39that education is getting more money but if that money is not going to

0:21:39 > 0:21:43schools and schools are having to make reductions in services, then

0:21:43 > 0:21:50that is wrong.Is your party going back on the deal? Absolutely not.

0:21:50 > 0:21:55The deal has been done and the money is coming. Why is there no

0:21:55 > 0:22:02timetable? I cannot give you a timetable. The issue with the

0:22:02 > 0:22:06waiting lists, it is not just because we are waiting on 1 billion,

0:22:06 > 0:22:10it has been a decade of mismanagement by our local

0:22:10 > 0:22:15politicians and ministers. 11 billion of a Block Grant comes

0:22:15 > 0:22:19through from Westminster. This 1 billion is additional. This should

0:22:19 > 0:22:23be like a sweetener, if we had proper governance in Northern

0:22:23 > 0:22:31Ireland on the health service would be done better.Go ahead.I have had

0:22:31 > 0:22:37to wait one and a half years regarding eye surgery, I am still

0:22:37 > 0:22:43waiting to see a consultant. How serious is it? I could go blind

0:22:43 > 0:22:47within five years. If I do not get the surgery I could go blind within

0:22:47 > 0:22:51five years. And all I have got as a Texas is juicy I am on a waiting

0:22:51 > 0:23:04list. -- all I have got is a text message to say I am on a waiting

0:23:04 > 0:23:14list. Could you come up here? Sit on that seat. This is what this

0:23:14 > 0:23:19programme is all about. Can we get a microphone? Now you have got the

0:23:19 > 0:23:24voice. Just look into the camera and tell everyone at home what has

0:23:24 > 0:23:31happened. I am a diabetic. I was told that I

0:23:31 > 0:23:38could go blind within five years. It took one and a half years to get a

0:23:38 > 0:23:44consultant appointment. I just got a text message to say I am on a

0:23:44 > 0:23:48waiting list, they do not know how long it is, I will be told six weeks

0:23:48 > 0:23:56before surgery.That is all I know. Basically, you do not know whether

0:23:56 > 0:24:00you are going to go blind or not because we cannot treat you?It is

0:24:00 > 0:24:13disgusting. It is disgusting on everybody's part, not just myself.

0:24:13 > 0:24:17To both Sinn Fein and DUP tonight, if you do not come into the studio

0:24:17 > 0:24:25about this, it means you are not able to look at this person and tell

0:24:25 > 0:24:31her how you are going to help her. Are you frightened? Absolutely

0:24:31 > 0:24:38terrified. I work in a chemist and I think it is absolutely disgusting

0:24:38 > 0:24:48the way that I cannot even do my job. I have got a partner and he has

0:24:48 > 0:24:51been amazing, but every day I can see my eye is deteriorating and it

0:24:51 > 0:25:00is terrifying.Health was promised, 250 million in total. No timetable

0:25:00 > 0:25:05for that money. That is no timetable for people like you. Meanwhile your

0:25:05 > 0:25:09party continues to be in power. Your party does not give people a

0:25:09 > 0:25:15timetable.Let us look at the root cause of the NHS, especially in

0:25:15 > 0:25:20Northern Ireland. We have for massive hospitals within a 20 Minute

0:25:20 > 0:25:24Drive of each other, because politicians do not have the balls to

0:25:24 > 0:25:31make the decision to close a hospital, make one bigger, better,

0:25:31 > 0:25:34treats people better, spending more cleaning the roof than treating

0:25:34 > 0:25:39patients. Local politicians have not been able to get to grips with that.

0:25:39 > 0:25:45Look at our health service, the trusts, a number of trusts for 1.8

0:25:45 > 0:25:49million people, it is a nonsense.We got this extra money to help people

0:25:49 > 0:25:56like this lady sitting here. What I am seeing... I am going to keep on

0:25:56 > 0:26:01banging on in this country until this country does get a timetable

0:26:01 > 0:26:06until people are at least told where the money is.That is important. I

0:26:06 > 0:26:09have tried this evening to see if we could get a timescale for that

0:26:09 > 0:26:14money. That is important and I agree that he should have a timescale. It

0:26:14 > 0:26:18is coming, it has been committed by the Government, and the Government

0:26:18 > 0:26:23will deliver on it.Thank you for telling us our story. Give her a

0:26:23 > 0:26:36round of applause. It is a live show. Just 80 from me

0:26:36 > 0:26:44to the gallery. I think we should go for longer on this, it so important.

0:26:44 > 0:26:52Where are you, Melanie?Everybody knows me for fighting for cancer

0:26:52 > 0:26:57drugs that they cannot get here that are available in other parts of the

0:26:57 > 0:27:04UK. I have been doing that for some time. I was making some inroads, I

0:27:04 > 0:27:10met this Health Minister. She invited me and some patients I was

0:27:10 > 0:27:17involved with to come along and discuss a way to change the way we

0:27:17 > 0:27:21access these drugs in Northern Ireland, which we did, April of this

0:27:21 > 0:27:29year. To be fair, this was found to be not fair in 2015, it took a lot

0:27:29 > 0:27:35of pressure to get it this far, now we have no executive or Assembly, it

0:27:35 > 0:27:41is sitting somewhere, I do not know what is happening.How has it

0:27:41 > 0:27:47impacted on your life?It impacts on the directly, it is a life-saving

0:27:47 > 0:27:52drugs. Even when it became available in other parts of the UK it took

0:27:52 > 0:27:57months to be adopted in Northern Ireland and I am not 100% sure it

0:27:57 > 0:28:00would have been adopted in Northern Ireland if I had not put pressure

0:28:00 > 0:28:05on. It is affecting all sorts of people in the cancer community. I

0:28:05 > 0:28:11support a lot of patients. Patients are fawning up looking for results,

0:28:11 > 0:28:28six weeks later the results are not even there. -- patients are phoning

0:28:28 > 0:28:35up.It winds me up when people with money can access services, people

0:28:35 > 0:28:40without money can not. I came from one of those backroads and I am

0:28:40 > 0:28:45lucky enough to have money now, I came from a background where there

0:28:45 > 0:28:49was no money in my family, and we are in a situation in Northern

0:28:49 > 0:28:53Ireland in terms of the health service where if you have got money

0:28:53 > 0:28:58you can get private care and maybe a better chance of survival, if you do

0:28:58 > 0:29:03not, you cannot rely on the NHS. The NHS does fantastic work but it is in

0:29:03 > 0:29:07trouble and it needs political decision-making and that is not

0:29:07 > 0:29:13happening in Northern Ireland.

0:29:13 > 0:29:16Just to the Conservative guy who set about closing down hospitals and

0:29:16 > 0:29:22making them bigger, one of the Conservative 's main policies,

0:29:22 > 0:29:26they've always been against the NHS. As Stephen rightly said, if you have

0:29:26 > 0:29:30money, why should you wait? We are all human beings and we are all

0:29:30 > 0:29:33equal. I've had two people in the last couple of days who died because

0:29:33 > 0:29:37of suicide, and you tell me you don't have money for the National

0:29:37 > 0:29:44Health Service?I'm telling you, sir, that you as a member of this

0:29:44 > 0:29:48community were promised, as part of the DUP deal with the Tories, that

0:29:48 > 0:29:51there would be money in your one for mental health, and it's not been

0:29:51 > 0:29:55announced. Where is the 10 million announcement?Exactly, it's the

0:29:55 > 0:30:05waste of a vote. I know for a fact the Tories have a hatred of the NHS,

0:30:05 > 0:30:08and I know the Tories don't want the NHS. It's always been for

0:30:08 > 0:30:14privatising.As a Tory and a person from Northern Ireland, I am proud of

0:30:14 > 0:30:18the NHS. I am working class. We put in a lot of money. It is mismanaged

0:30:18 > 0:30:25in Northern Ireland. Four hospitals within a 24 minute Drive, we just

0:30:25 > 0:30:35need bigger and better. We need to treat patients. We need a root and

0:30:35 > 0:30:39branch, and our local politicians haven't done that. It can't be a

0:30:39 > 0:30:45money pit. We can't keep pouring in money.Just deliver on the deal!

0:30:45 > 0:30:56They deliver on the deal.11 billion of a block grant.Next year in real

0:30:56 > 0:31:01terms is going down.It's been mismanaged by a devolved government.

0:31:01 > 0:31:08TALKING OVER EACH OTHER Looking at the real pressures in

0:31:08 > 0:31:13health, looking at the health service funding...Do you not agree

0:31:13 > 0:31:16that the NHS in Northern Ireland is is managed?

0:31:16 > 0:31:21TALKING OVER EACH OTHER Melanie could the drugs she wanted

0:31:21 > 0:31:26if she lived in Manchester. I have a number of people that I know like

0:31:26 > 0:31:36Melanie who can't access the macro -- who can't access...I'm not

0:31:36 > 0:31:39letting this subject go, and we will be back to it on the radio show for

0:31:39 > 0:31:42as long as we need to. Give the panel a round of applause.

0:31:42 > 0:31:47APPLAUSE

0:31:47 > 0:31:50Now, sexual abuse in football has been making headlines since this

0:31:50 > 0:31:53time last year, when former professional footballers began

0:31:53 > 0:31:56waiving their rights to anonymity and talking publicly about sexual

0:31:56 > 0:32:01abuse by former coaches in the 1970s, 1980s and 1990s.

0:32:01 > 0:32:04Our next guest, Paul Stewart, is a former England international

0:32:04 > 0:32:07and Premier League player, and he's with us tonight.

0:32:07 > 0:32:11Paul, you're very welcome.

0:32:11 > 0:32:22APPLAUSE How are you? Good to see you. Paul,

0:32:22 > 0:32:29yours is a devastating story. You were abused from what age?From just

0:32:29 > 0:32:3611 years of age, just before 11 years of age, for about four years,

0:32:36 > 0:32:45every day.And your brain as those tragic memories locked in?Yeah, I

0:32:45 > 0:32:49mean, I try and manage it as best I can, and not every day is a bad day,

0:32:49 > 0:32:57but you still have them bad times. It was something that I felt I

0:32:57 > 0:33:00needed to speak out about.I saw this picture of you when I was

0:33:00 > 0:33:07reading your story, and it's when you see you as a young child like

0:33:07 > 0:33:11this... You know, we know how horrific sexual abuse is but, when

0:33:11 > 0:33:15you see the vulnerability and innocence of a child, how can

0:33:15 > 0:33:18somebody do this? Did you understand what was happening and it was done

0:33:18 > 0:33:25to you?I didn't. Just before it started happening, I was a

0:33:25 > 0:33:30happy-go-lucky child. When it first started, I had threats on my parents

0:33:30 > 0:33:35and my brothers and, when you are a young child, you believe... They

0:33:35 > 0:33:38threatened to kill my parents and my older brothers if I said anything.

0:33:38 > 0:33:43If I told anybody what he was doing to me. Surprisingly enough, you

0:33:43 > 0:33:48know, as a young child, you do believe adults when you are that

0:33:48 > 0:33:54age, and then...This is your abuser here, by the way.That's right.This

0:33:54 > 0:34:01is Frank Roper, who is now dead. So he threatened to hurt your parents,

0:34:01 > 0:34:05to kill your parents.That's right. Have I said anything about what he

0:34:05 > 0:34:10was doing? It then got to a stage where he obviously ingratiated

0:34:10 > 0:34:18himself to my parents and my family, so for anyone looking in he looked

0:34:18 > 0:34:23like an uncle that was sat there but, all the time, he was making

0:34:23 > 0:34:27threats to me and bringing gifts and presents to my family.Did you

0:34:27 > 0:34:33anybody at the time, any friends?I just withdrew into myself. I didn't

0:34:33 > 0:34:39speak for a year, and I think that was maybe a cry for help, in some

0:34:39 > 0:34:48way. You've got to remember that society in the 70s, 80s and 90s was

0:34:48 > 0:34:53a lot different. You know, children were seen and not heard. Often, if a

0:34:53 > 0:34:56child did speak up, the parents would believe the adult, rather than

0:34:56 > 0:35:03the child. It was very difficult for me. I felt I was locked in and I

0:35:03 > 0:35:08didn't have anywhere to turn.When you are that little boy and you put

0:35:08 > 0:35:12your head on the pillow and you are sleeping and when you are on your

0:35:12 > 0:35:16own and you've got these thoughts which you are not sharing with

0:35:16 > 0:35:22anyone else, what does it do to your sense of inner self, your sense of

0:35:22 > 0:35:25self esteem?It takes everything away from you. You are probably

0:35:25 > 0:35:34wishing, why me? Where can I turn? I don't think, as a youngster, when it

0:35:34 > 0:35:38first started, I was thinking of ending my life but, as I got older,

0:35:38 > 0:35:44those thoughts came into my mind often.To the outside world, of

0:35:44 > 0:35:51course, you were living the dream, because you progressed in the

0:35:51 > 0:35:55career. A tough grip, football, and you were doing really well. Ashley

0:35:55 > 0:36:04Cole a tough career.Yes, I thought I'd put it all away. Ashes a tough

0:36:04 > 0:36:08career, football. But as I stated it manifested itself in other formats.

0:36:08 > 0:36:13I hit the bottle, if you will, and I went on to class a drugs. I don't

0:36:13 > 0:36:19want to blame that totally for that, because you make a choice, but, you

0:36:19 > 0:36:25know, I thought that I'd found the answer to all my problems, and I was

0:36:25 > 0:36:32oblivious to everything. But when I came down, I was twice as bad. Yeah,

0:36:32 > 0:36:36I've realised now, as a 53-year-old man, that it was the effects of what

0:36:36 > 0:36:41happened to me as a child.Was it too easy to get away with it for

0:36:41 > 0:36:49people like him?I think so, yeah. You think there have been many young

0:36:49 > 0:36:53people who still haven't, for whatever their reasons are, come

0:36:53 > 0:36:58forward? Do you think this is prolific?I do, Stephen, and some

0:36:58 > 0:37:03have come forward to me, some top players that don't want to waive

0:37:03 > 0:37:09their right, and I understand that. Players who we would know?Yes. And

0:37:09 > 0:37:13that is their choice, and I understand it. A lot of players that

0:37:13 > 0:37:18didn't make the grade that just had that dream, like I had, but wasn't

0:37:18 > 0:37:23able to follow its because of what happened.Out of Frank Roper get

0:37:23 > 0:37:27access to you? I imagine when you are playing for a team it must be

0:37:27 > 0:37:29difficult for a paedophile like this to isolate you, because you're

0:37:29 > 0:37:35always with your friends and in a team and how did he get to you?He

0:37:35 > 0:37:38manufactured it so he would drop me off last when he took us to games.

0:37:38 > 0:37:42He would tell my parents he was taking me to extra training and take

0:37:42 > 0:37:48metres occluded areas where he could abuse me. -- and take me to secluded

0:37:48 > 0:37:53areas. These people are clever. If they were businessmen, I'm sure

0:37:53 > 0:37:56they'd be millionaires, the way they manufacture their way into families,

0:37:56 > 0:38:02and the way they get access to children.A child cannot consent.

0:38:02 > 0:38:07There is absolutely no question about that. I just want to know, did

0:38:07 > 0:38:15you ever tell him the impact he was having on you? I'm not asking about

0:38:15 > 0:38:20consent, but I'm saying, did you ever actually say to him, you are

0:38:20 > 0:38:24evil western markI never got the chance. Well, I probably did have

0:38:24 > 0:38:28the chance, but he was still around the football club when I went to

0:38:28 > 0:38:32Blackpool as a young player, because he was a scout there, so I had to

0:38:32 > 0:38:37face him daily. At that age, all I ever wanted to do was to play

0:38:37 > 0:38:40football, and I didn't want to come across as somebody that would cause

0:38:40 > 0:38:45trouble at clubs, so I didn't say anything. As I moved on, I didn't

0:38:45 > 0:38:50see him. The horrible thing is, and a big regret I've got is that, when

0:38:50 > 0:38:53I was at that football club, I saw another child with him, and I

0:38:53 > 0:38:57instantly knew what was happening. And I regret that I never spoke up

0:38:57 > 0:39:09then. It remains one of the biggest regrets of my life, in fact.How can

0:39:09 > 0:39:14we spot these type of people? What should we be looking out for?Well,

0:39:14 > 0:39:18it's not natural for somebody to be with an adult who isn't a family

0:39:18 > 0:39:24member 24/7. The fact that they are manufacturing to get you, or to get

0:39:24 > 0:39:32the child alone, you know, ways of the gifts, the presents, when they

0:39:32 > 0:39:36are grooming parents as well. You know, one of the reasons for me in

0:39:36 > 0:39:40coming forward and writing my book was so that people could see what

0:39:40 > 0:39:44was happening to me, could see the signs and hopefully spot it before

0:39:44 > 0:39:50it excavates.I know that, every time you talk again about one of

0:39:50 > 0:39:55these stories, it is painful. I get that. We can see it in your face

0:39:55 > 0:40:03tonight. Are you OK?Yeah, I think so. I still have bad times but, as I

0:40:03 > 0:40:07said, I managed it. I have a great family around me. I think I regret,

0:40:07 > 0:40:13really, my actions over the years, and what harm I've done to them.

0:40:13 > 0:40:20That's a big regret that I have.If you could hear yourself. You've

0:40:20 > 0:40:23talked on a number of occasions about the regrets you have. You are

0:40:23 > 0:40:29a victim.I understand that, but my actions caused a lot of heartache

0:40:29 > 0:40:39and pain for my own family.He's dead.Well, yeah, but I had a great

0:40:39 > 0:40:46family network around me. To be honest, without them, I wouldn't be

0:40:46 > 0:40:52with you today. -- his actions did. I am so grateful for you coming to

0:40:52 > 0:41:01Belfast tonight, and thank you for sharing your story.Thank you.

0:41:01 > 0:41:03I want to introduce you to a 14-year-old who literally

0:41:03 > 0:41:08saved her mother's life.

0:41:08 > 0:41:12This is Melissa and her mum Clare - and Clare, you wouldn't be sitting

0:41:12 > 0:41:16here tonight if it wasn't for the actions of your daughter.

0:41:16 > 0:41:22Hello, are you Clare?Yes.You did something spectacular. What

0:41:22 > 0:41:28happened?I performed CPR on my mum when she had a cardiac arrest. I

0:41:28 > 0:41:33heard her grasping for air. I started calling her and she wasn't

0:41:33 > 0:41:38answering, so I ran and got my dad and I phoned for an ambulance. They

0:41:38 > 0:41:46said, she is in bed, and they said, you need to lift her off the bed and

0:41:46 > 0:41:51put her on the floor, so me and my dad did that, and she said, start

0:41:51 > 0:41:57CPR.How did you know what to do?My school nurse Eileen told me how to

0:41:57 > 0:42:02do CPR.Without your daughter, you wouldn't be gay?Absolutely. We are

0:42:02 > 0:42:08so proud of Melissa. -- you wouldn't be here. I would encourage every

0:42:08 > 0:42:13school to do the same foot I would hate to think another child would

0:42:13 > 0:42:17ever be faced with that situation and not know what to do.I kind of

0:42:17 > 0:42:22know that we have seen CPR demonstrations before, and maybe

0:42:22 > 0:42:25you'll think it's boring. Here is what is not boring. You wouldn't be

0:42:25 > 0:42:33here tonight. If your daughter hadn't been taught it in school.If

0:42:33 > 0:42:37I wasn't told CPR, I don't think my mother would be Getafe.Well, I'm

0:42:37 > 0:42:42glad that you are. -- my mother wouldn't be here today. Give her a

0:42:42 > 0:42:45round of applause, ladies and gentlemen.

0:42:45 > 0:42:48Well it's estimated that one in every five people will witness

0:42:48 > 0:42:50someone needing emergency CPR, but studies show that very

0:42:50 > 0:42:53few people will act.

0:42:53 > 0:42:56We also heard this week that women are less likely to receive CPR

0:42:56 > 0:43:03because people may be reluctant to touch a woman's chest,

0:43:03 > 0:43:07so, inspired by Melissa here, we set off to Lisburn to see

0:43:07 > 0:43:11if we could equip the public with what they need to save lives -

0:43:11 > 0:43:25and all to the tune of Stayin' Alive!

0:43:25 > 0:43:35Do you have a particular name for these dummies?Yes. We want to check

0:43:35 > 0:43:42if this person is OK. I knew OK? We are going to look and listen.

0:43:42 > 0:43:48Looking at the chest to see if it is rising, listening for any breath. If

0:43:48 > 0:43:55we cannot, ask for help, call 999, this person is conscious and not

0:43:55 > 0:44:01breathing. We need to start this person's heart. Put your hand in the

0:44:01 > 0:44:07centre of the chest, lock our fingers, put our weight down, 30

0:44:07 > 0:44:19compressions. One, two, three, four. How do you know what speed?If you

0:44:19 > 0:44:23hammer the song staying alive. Or count out one and two and three and

0:44:23 > 0:44:37four. Two fingers, on to the chin, pensioner knows, believe in slowly.

0:44:37 > 0:44:41As you do that that's chess is popping up and down.The oxygen is

0:44:41 > 0:44:51going in. Another 30. We are hoping that the ambulance crew will arrive

0:44:51 > 0:44:57and help us, put on a defibrillator. How will the public do when you ask

0:44:57 > 0:45:02them?It is a confidence issue. They are worried about hurting a person.

0:45:02 > 0:45:08The worst thing you can do is do nothing.Let us find out how good

0:45:08 > 0:45:23they are.Could leave what you do know? Just try and push down.I hear

0:45:23 > 0:45:45that you are a fan of Stephen Nolan. What would you do?You are checking.

0:45:45 > 0:45:55Staying alive.

0:45:58 > 0:46:09Whistling. I am trying to blow.If I was doing this for real I would take

0:46:09 > 0:46:17off everything.Take off the court. On a first date? Look at the

0:46:17 > 0:46:26lipstick you have left.He needs your help. You are going to let him

0:46:26 > 0:46:38die? Yes. That is terrible.

0:46:45 > 0:46:51Apparently you want more middle-aged men in lycra.

0:46:51 > 0:46:57That's according to a survey by bike charity Sustrans,

0:46:57 > 0:47:00claiming that 81% of people here support building more dedicated

0:47:00 > 0:47:09cycle lanes around Belfast.

0:47:09 > 0:47:15With us tonight one middle-aged man in lycra.

0:47:15 > 0:47:25Keen cyclist Malachi O'Doherty.

0:47:29 > 0:47:42Take a seat.That is not like crab. It is very practical clothing. That

0:47:42 > 0:47:50is not a space suit. Do you really think that the

0:47:50 > 0:47:57motorist... Do you think I am a middle aged. Do you think the

0:47:57 > 0:48:02motorist is prepared for more cycle lanes and less room for motorists?

0:48:02 > 0:48:08The motorist has two big realistic. We are faced with climate change. We

0:48:08 > 0:48:12are doing away with carbon fuel. There is a future with more bikes

0:48:12 > 0:48:16and less cars. There are live with it. It is the change that is coming,

0:48:16 > 0:48:24they're faster, the better.You are not looking too happy.There are

0:48:24 > 0:48:30three people in this, motor vehicles, cyclists, pedestrians.

0:48:30 > 0:48:34Motor vehicles stay on the road, pedestrians stay on the footpath,

0:48:34 > 0:48:38that cyclists are the only people who want the road, the cycle lane,

0:48:38 > 0:48:49and the pavement. Not only that, they make no contribution whatsoever

0:48:49 > 0:48:55to this enormous expenditure for their benefit. And, once upon a

0:48:55 > 0:49:03time, when I came out of my newsagent with my cup of coffee and

0:49:03 > 0:49:07my newspaper, now and in terror that a cyclist will come whizzing along

0:49:07 > 0:49:14the footpath and bought me down. Let me finish. If I had to knock you

0:49:14 > 0:49:21over, I will tell you this, in every urban area of Ireland, bicycles are

0:49:21 > 0:49:27travelling at twice the speed of a motor car. They are travelling at 34

0:49:27 > 0:49:33letters per hour and the average motor car is doing 15.If I hit

0:49:33 > 0:49:39George on my bike I would come off worse.When I got up, you would come

0:49:39 > 0:49:49off worse, believe me.Let us clear up a few things. You see they

0:49:49 > 0:49:55contribute nothing to the expense. There is no such thing as road tax.

0:49:55 > 0:49:59We heard this on your programme. Motorists are paying all this tax.

0:49:59 > 0:50:04The only tax I pay on my car in Northern Ireland and the Duke is on

0:50:04 > 0:50:13emissions.The only emissions that I generally as a cyclist, flatulence.

0:50:13 > 0:50:17It is not an expensive contribution to greenhouse gases. You pay your

0:50:17 > 0:50:26taxes on the emissions that you generate.Forget tax. You represent

0:50:26 > 0:50:35the cycling community. Every known law of the road, red lights mean

0:50:35 > 0:50:39nothing, pedestrian crossings been nothing, one-way streets mean

0:50:39 > 0:50:44nothing, pedestrian ways mean nothing. There is an entitlement

0:50:44 > 0:50:52amongst the fanatics, and they are fanatics.Who is the fanatic? Who

0:50:52 > 0:50:57looks like a fanatic here tonight? Somebody who is read in the face and

0:50:57 > 0:51:02fulminating as if all the crime on the road is committed by cyclists?

0:51:02 > 0:51:08It is cars that cause more accidents.It is a serious issue.

0:51:08 > 0:51:12Let us look at some examples of what is happening on the road. Look at

0:51:12 > 0:51:21this. Look at that. Who's fault is that? The person in the car for not

0:51:21 > 0:51:25looking when they are opening the door or the cyclists were going up

0:51:25 > 0:51:35the inside? Another example. A car cutting in front. This is no

0:51:35 > 0:51:39laughing matter, we need to take this seriously, somebody could be

0:51:39 > 0:51:50badly hurt. It is not just the cars.

0:51:54 > 0:51:58That taxi was indicating, then the infamous altercation with Jeremy

0:51:58 > 0:52:17Vine from Radio 2. Look at this. Jeremy is on this bike.

0:52:53 > 0:52:58That is how aggressive this gets. This is to assume that cyclists are

0:52:58 > 0:53:04some kind of cult, that we are all the same and that we all behave

0:53:04 > 0:53:08badly and that people who use cars are such well-behaved and gentle

0:53:08 > 0:53:12people, in fact we have seen by that any manner that George adopts in

0:53:12 > 0:53:16this idle and that he is the aggressive one and the car is that

0:53:16 > 0:53:20vehicle causing most damage on the road. As for the question of whether

0:53:20 > 0:53:23a cyclist should have a camera and photograph cars, the police advise

0:53:23 > 0:53:34us to have Kamara us.We could widen this out. Cycle lanes. Where I live,

0:53:34 > 0:53:41you have got cyclists who peddle along the road, four or five

0:53:41 > 0:53:45abreast, they take up the entire roads, I am stuck behind them.

0:53:45 > 0:53:52Something similar happened to you. We saw you ranting about this on

0:53:52 > 0:54:01Twitter.

0:54:06 > 0:54:09Yes, and that unleashed 48 hours of the most extreme trolling and abuse

0:54:09 > 0:54:20that I have ever received. That is fairly innocuous. I had people

0:54:20 > 0:54:24treating me from California, Australia, all across Ireland, the

0:54:24 > 0:54:29UK. One person was treating me for seven hours straight and at one

0:54:29 > 0:54:34point accused me of directly causing the death of a woman who had been

0:54:34 > 0:54:39tragically killed, knocked off her bike in Manchester, several hours

0:54:39 > 0:54:43before I treated. All of this is a symptom of the tension that there is

0:54:43 > 0:54:48on our roads, on our city streets, particularly on country roads,

0:54:48 > 0:54:53between flocks of club cyclists, and some of them are very responsible

0:54:53 > 0:54:58and cycle well.And some of them take up the entire road.They do and

0:54:58 > 0:55:04there is no getting around them. We all live in this society and sheared

0:55:04 > 0:55:08the same space. There are certainly club cyclists... I am not a club

0:55:08 > 0:55:14cyclists. There will be times, two cyclists together will be holding up

0:55:14 > 0:55:20a car behind, but the car does not have more right on that road.We do

0:55:20 > 0:55:27not share the same space. Whether it is Belfast, Cork, Dublin, the

0:55:27 > 0:55:35routine of a cyclist is to go through a red light. The routine of

0:55:35 > 0:55:39a cyclist is to go through a pedestrian crossing.You are seeing

0:55:39 > 0:55:49cyclists break the law? Big deal. We see lots of car users break the law.

0:55:49 > 0:55:53You are not making a general statement about cyclists. There is a

0:55:53 > 0:55:57presumption that all cyclists are the same, that we are some kind of

0:55:57 > 0:56:06uniform cult, and we are an action group.The use to where a brown

0:56:06 > 0:56:14shirts.Who used to wear brownshirts?No, no, no. Not

0:56:14 > 0:56:34acceptable. Not funny.These guys make rude remarks. Who does?All

0:56:34 > 0:56:43right. Ladies and gentlemen, give them a round of applause.

0:56:43 > 0:56:45He's been dubbed the golden boy of Irish Country music -

0:56:45 > 0:56:48with an army of faithful fans around the world, two Irish number

0:56:48 > 0:56:50one albums and sell-out shows at home and abroad.

0:56:50 > 0:57:00Playing us out it's Derek Ryan singing Friends With Tractors.

0:57:12 > 0:57:15# Sat beside a man from Holywood California on a plane

0:57:15 > 0:57:17# He said he had rich and famous friends

0:57:17 > 0:57:18# Yeah, he liked dropping names

0:57:18 > 0:57:20# I said, well, howdy do, that's good for you

0:57:20 > 0:57:25# I dig a lot of those actors

0:57:25 > 0:57:27# But you ain't got a thing on me

0:57:27 > 0:57:29# See, I got friends with tractors

0:57:29 > 0:57:31# They'll grow your groceries, haul a load

0:57:31 > 0:57:33# Pull you out and fix the road

0:57:33 > 0:57:34# They're good at slowin' speeders down

0:57:34 > 0:57:37# When they pass through from out of town

0:57:37 > 0:57:40# I'll live out in the country happily ever after

0:57:40 > 0:57:50# I got everything I need cos I got friends with tractors

0:57:50 > 0:57:54# On Friday night, we hit the woods Go boggin' in our trucks

0:57:54 > 0:57:59# It's just about a guarantee some good ole boy gets stuck

0:57:59 > 0:58:03# Where I come from, you can bet your butt a mud hole ain't a factor

0:58:03 > 0:58:07# I'll sink mine to the floorboards cos I got friends with tractors

0:58:07 > 0:58:10# And they'll grow your groceries, haul a load

0:58:10 > 0:58:12# Pull you out and fix the road

0:58:12 > 0:58:15# They're good at slowing speeders down

0:58:15 > 0:58:17# When they pass through from out of town

0:58:17 > 0:58:22# I'll live out in the country happily ever after

0:58:22 > 0:58:32# I got everything I need cos I got friends with tractors

0:58:36 > 0:58:38# I've been to fancy five-star restaurants

0:58:38 > 0:58:41# And I left there barely filled

0:58:41 > 0:58:47# They charged me for the water, the butter and the bread

0:58:47 > 0:58:51# That gourmet meal looked more to me like fish bait on a cracker

0:58:51 > 0:58:55# But I'll stay fat and happy cos I got friends with tractors

0:58:55 > 0:58:57# And they'll grow your groceries, haul a load

0:58:57 > 0:59:00# Pull you out and fix the road

0:59:00 > 0:59:03# They're good at slowin' speeders down

0:59:03 > 0:59:06# When they pass through from out of town

0:59:06 > 0:59:09# I'll live out in the country happily ever after

0:59:09 > 0:59:15# I got everything I need cos I got friends with tractors

0:59:15 > 0:59:23# I got everything I need cos I got friends with tractors. #