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:00:14. > :00:22.Hello. This is Outside Source. David Cameron's big day has arrived, I EU

:00:23. > :00:29.summit has started where the British prime minister will try to persuade

:00:30. > :00:32.all 28 countries to back his reforms. It is a more important to

:00:33. > :00:37.get this right than do anything in a rush but with goodwill and hard work

:00:38. > :00:42.we can get a better deal for Britain. Pope Francis has questioned

:00:43. > :00:47.Donald Trump's Christian values, making comments to journalists as he

:00:48. > :00:56.left Mexico following his visit there. A blast in Turkey has killed

:00:57. > :01:02.six people a day after a bomb attack in Ankara. The Prime Minister has

:01:03. > :01:08.blamed Kurdish separate system. And the British snowboarder who survived

:01:09. > :01:12.and, avalanche. Plus we will hear from William Shatner who has written

:01:13. > :01:28.a new book with co-star Leonard de Mori. -- Leonard Nimoy.

:01:29. > :01:34.Welcome back to the programme. Let's get more on our top story, British

:01:35. > :01:40.Prime Minister David Cameron in Brussels trying to agree on a set of

:01:41. > :01:44.reforms he can demand as part of a renegotiation of Britain's EU

:01:45. > :01:49.membership. When and if he gets that agreement the UK will vote in a

:01:50. > :01:53.referendum over whether or not to leave the EU. Let's see one of the

:01:54. > :01:59.latest week coming in from our political editor. Downing Street

:02:00. > :02:04.sources talking of an impasse tonight, tomorrow's talks pushed

:02:05. > :02:08.back to 11am to allow time for individual talks. Let's get some

:02:09. > :02:16.more voices, correspondence across Europe have been looking at what is

:02:17. > :02:19.at stake in this Brussels summit. Here in Paris, the real concern

:02:20. > :02:26.isn't benefits for migrants but rather protecting the Euro. David

:02:27. > :02:30.Cameron wants safeguards to ensure the Eurozone countries cannot gang

:02:31. > :02:35.up on the UK, but the French President Francois Hollande is

:02:36. > :02:40.concerned this will mean giving the City of London and unfair advantage.

:02:41. > :02:42.France is still struggling with high unemployment and president land will

:02:43. > :02:47.seek re-election next year. He doesn't want to come home looking

:02:48. > :02:56.like a loser. He must be seen to be sticking up for French interests.

:02:57. > :03:01.Germany's position hasn't changed, it wants Britain and the EU and

:03:02. > :03:06.right now Angela Merkel is David Cameron's greatest ally, voicing

:03:07. > :03:11.support for some of his ideas, take benefits and welfare systems. She

:03:12. > :03:14.said before the summit that national parliaments not Brussels should be

:03:15. > :03:18.responsible for protecting those systems against abuses. She also

:03:19. > :03:23.spoke of ever closer union, saying whilst nothing should stand on its

:03:24. > :03:27.way, individual member states should not be obliged to follow that level

:03:28. > :03:31.of integration every step of the way.

:03:32. > :03:37.Here in Hungary, the other central European countries as well, the main

:03:38. > :03:41.concern is to make sure fellow citizens have equal rights in

:03:42. > :03:46.Britain and elsewhere in the union. What that seems to mean in practice

:03:47. > :03:50.is that they might be willing to accept curbs on benefits for

:03:51. > :03:55.Hungarians, polls, Czechs and Slovaks in Britain, provided these

:03:56. > :03:58.are only applied to new arrivals, not the hundreds of thousands

:03:59. > :04:04.already there. And that the curbs are phased out gradually. Central

:04:05. > :04:09.European leaders are enjoying their sudden importance in EU affairs. At

:04:10. > :04:21.last everyone have to take them seriously.

:04:22. > :04:25.Thanks to Nick, Jenny and Anna. Let's cross to Brussels and find out

:04:26. > :04:28.what has been happening since we spoke last, Alex is with us. I was

:04:29. > :04:30.reading tweets of an impasse. How would you describe the mood over the

:04:31. > :04:34.past few hours? The first working session has finished so we have had

:04:35. > :04:38.the first substantial discussion of the proposed reforms and the leaders

:04:39. > :04:43.that around the table and attempted to thrash out some detail. After

:04:44. > :04:47.that we were hearing briefings from people in the room, sources close to

:04:48. > :04:52.those who work, saying no real progress has been made, there are

:04:53. > :04:55.still five key areas with significant differences between the

:04:56. > :05:00.EU leaders, such as the proposed welfare changes for EU migrants in

:05:01. > :05:08.the UK, the rules governing the relationship between between those

:05:09. > :05:14.inside and outside the Eurozone, even the fundamental treaties of the

:05:15. > :05:17.European Union. So far we have been told caps on those have not

:05:18. > :05:23.narrowed. You would expect some element of this drama to be played

:05:24. > :05:27.out because everyone on the table wants to be seen to have fought hard

:05:28. > :05:31.to get the best deal for their own country. This is not unexpected but

:05:32. > :05:36.the sense we are getting now is that these discussions are far from

:05:37. > :05:39.conclusion. David Cameron will sit with the president of the European

:05:40. > :05:44.Council Donald task later tonight, when they will work out how to

:05:45. > :05:48.proceed. Talks will inevitably trickle until tomorrow morning and

:05:49. > :05:53.we don't know if there will be a deal. I know there are various

:05:54. > :05:58.points you mention, the four or five sticking points, do we even know, do

:05:59. > :06:00.they attacked them the same time go through them methodically, for

:06:01. > :06:06.example the first couple of hours we will talk about benefits in the EU?

:06:07. > :06:10.We are told David Cameron opened this first working session by

:06:11. > :06:15.setting out what was at stake for him, saying he had to get a

:06:16. > :06:19.creditable deal he could fell to the British public and this was the

:06:20. > :06:23.moment to settle the UK question on the EU. Then they started thrashing

:06:24. > :06:28.through the detail. We are told every one of the sticking points we

:06:29. > :06:33.have spoken about recently was raised by someone around that table.

:06:34. > :06:38.No surprises as to which countries waste points on which issues, for

:06:39. > :06:42.example Poland, Hungary, the Czech Republic and Slovakia are concerned

:06:43. > :06:46.about the welfare payments to migrant workers, concerned there

:06:47. > :06:51.were changes to economic governance, and as expected, we think they are

:06:52. > :06:55.the issues those countries raised, but one EU source told us they were

:06:56. > :06:59.more critical than they were expected to be, so the mood is now

:07:00. > :07:05.that there is still much discussion before any deal is likely to be

:07:06. > :07:10.reached. Thank you very much, Alex, keeping across that story in

:07:11. > :07:16.Brussels. As she mentioned, it will go well into tomorrow, so stay with

:07:17. > :07:24.us for updates. Let's turn over to our sports news. Manchester United

:07:25. > :07:28.are playing Michelin in the Europa League and a few more games are on

:07:29. > :07:35.as well. Let's get the latest from the BBC Sport Centre and Catherine

:07:36. > :07:40.Downes, standing by. Give us an update on that match and what else

:07:41. > :07:45.is happening. For Man United fans I'm afraid the bad week continues,

:07:46. > :07:58.the beaten by Sunderland at the weekend. Tonight they have beaten by

:07:59. > :08:04.Michelin from Denmark -- Mitjylland from Denmark. David de Gea was

:08:05. > :08:08.injured in the warm up so big names missing, so United beaten by a team

:08:09. > :08:13.that have only existed for 17 years. For Louis Van Gaal, you sense a lot

:08:14. > :08:17.hinges on the second leg of this type, and the FA Cup tie against

:08:18. > :08:23.Shrewsbury town of League 2 in England. If that goes badly things

:08:24. > :08:28.might go badly for Louis Van Gaal. We were talking a lot about calls

:08:29. > :08:34.for Gary Neville to resign as Valencia manager after dismal league

:08:35. > :08:39.form but tonight it is different story, Valencia lead Rapid Vienna

:08:40. > :08:46.5-0. 15 minutes left so there could be good news there for Gary Neville.

:08:47. > :08:49.Holders Seville are on for a record-breaking third consecutive

:08:50. > :08:55.Europa League title. Fernando Llorente scored twice in the first

:08:56. > :08:58.half. Seville only in this competition because they finished

:08:59. > :09:02.third in their Champions League group, so they dropped down in the

:09:03. > :09:07.Europa League, but it could turn out well for them in terms of making

:09:08. > :09:10.history. Another former winner, Liverpool, currently finding German

:09:11. > :09:17.side at Augsburg tough to crack, goalless at the moment in Jurgen

:09:18. > :09:22.Klopp's first game in Germany since moving to Liverpool from Bruce eah

:09:23. > :09:29.Dortmund. Thank you for bringing us up-to-date. A couple more sports

:09:30. > :09:33.stories, away from football. This is a survival story, British

:09:34. > :09:37.snowboarder Sasha Hamm has been talking to the BBC about the moment

:09:38. > :09:44.he was caught in an avalanche, and he explains how he survived the

:09:45. > :09:49.experience. I hiked it with my friend, he got too tired, turned

:09:50. > :09:59.around, and stubborn Sasha decided to keep going.

:10:00. > :10:23.I ended up about five feet under the snow, and stuck in there, and I

:10:24. > :10:28.thought that was it. But luckily, I had a very big airport it on the

:10:29. > :10:33.right side of my body and my phone was literally in the right pocket --

:10:34. > :10:39.a very big air pocket. I called my friend and navigated him

:10:40. > :10:44.to where I was and said, if you can hear the chopper getting louder,

:10:45. > :10:49.talus, and that is how they ended up in pointing me. I have never heard

:10:50. > :10:53.of anybody surviving past an hour, let alone two hours. Usually you

:10:54. > :10:57.diversification, but I got really lucky, I learn my lesson, don't go

:10:58. > :11:03.riding on your own and the most important one is, don't go riding

:11:04. > :11:09.when you are very tired. Frightening but with a happy ending,

:11:10. > :11:18.we are glad to say. I now want to bring you to Formula 1, a Tweet,

:11:19. > :11:29.2016 F1 line-up is complete. The 23-year-old will become

:11:30. > :11:40.here is his manager. They chose him on merit, on the results of last

:11:41. > :11:45.year. They feel it is a good team-mate. Obviously it is sad for

:11:46. > :11:52.Will Stevens because he is out of Formula 1 now. That is sometimes the

:11:53. > :11:57.sad nature of the sport, only 22 drivers year able to compete.

:11:58. > :12:01.Stay with us on Outside Source, we will be live in Cuba talking about

:12:02. > :12:02.President Obama's announcement that he will visit the country next

:12:03. > :12:19.month. Rail passengers in the south-east of

:12:20. > :12:29.England remain the least satisfied in the country according to a report

:12:30. > :12:35.by the consumer group Which?. They had an overall satisfaction score of

:12:36. > :12:39.46%. The survey of nearly 7000 rail travellers across England and Wales

:12:40. > :12:44.shows many passengers have to cope with overcrowded trains and dirty

:12:45. > :12:49.conditions. Emma North reports. What is it like to travel on some of

:12:50. > :12:55.the worst trains in England? Myself and a few others were fined by

:12:56. > :12:59.ticket inspectors on our train. We ended up with two or three trains

:13:00. > :13:04.with the people on one train, so we were standing in first class, and we

:13:05. > :13:11.were fined for standing in the compartment. People don't like

:13:12. > :13:16.South-eastern Trains because they are unreliable. I could get in ten,

:13:17. > :13:29.20, 30 minutes late, which ruins my plans. Which? Asked 7000 companies

:13:30. > :13:33.to raise -- passengers to rate the worst companies. It is challenging

:13:34. > :13:37.for the operators but that cannot be tracked from the fact that people

:13:38. > :13:43.expect the basics, they expect clean trains, working toilets, all of

:13:44. > :13:47.these things should be achievable for operators in the 21st century.

:13:48. > :13:51.There is a lot they can do to make commutes more tolerable. The

:13:52. > :13:57.passenger numbers are up, but so are the profits. The parent company of

:13:58. > :14:01.South-eastern and Thames Link say they share customers frustrations,

:14:02. > :14:11.but they also said today they were pleased to report pre-tax profits up

:14:12. > :14:14.by 17%, up to ?52.1 million. The industry is working together to

:14:15. > :14:18.improve the experience of passengers. We are investing

:14:19. > :14:22.billions of pounds every year in new trains, better stations and more

:14:23. > :14:27.services. We know Winnie to do better, we are trying to improve, we

:14:28. > :14:36.know we need to run more trains more often on time. A separate survey by

:14:37. > :14:39.Transport cap more focused show people are generally happy but with

:14:40. > :14:41.a third reporting their last journey as delayed there is little comfort

:14:42. > :14:59.for those in the London Crush hour. This is Outside Source live from the

:15:00. > :15:03.BBC newsroom. Our lead story: The British Prime Minister David Cameron

:15:04. > :15:07.has swept that with hard work and goodwill he can achieve a deal at

:15:08. > :15:11.the European Union summit to try to stop his country leaving the

:15:12. > :15:15.European Union. What you see next depends on where you live in the

:15:16. > :15:20.world. If you are watching outside the UK you will see World News

:15:21. > :15:26.America with more in Venezuela on the increase in petrol prices. Here

:15:27. > :15:30.in the UK the News at ten has an interview with former England rugby

:15:31. > :15:35.star Matt Dawson, speaking out about his family's experience with

:15:36. > :15:39.meningitis, after another family whose two-year-old daughter died

:15:40. > :15:46.from the disease earlier this week started a petition to get more

:15:47. > :15:52.children vaccinated against it. Let's move on to Cuba, I want to

:15:53. > :15:56.show your teat, the president of the United States posted this not on

:15:57. > :16:00.ago, he says next month he will travel to Cuba to advance their

:16:01. > :16:05.progress and efforts to improve the lives of the Cuban people. That is

:16:06. > :16:10.US President Barack Obama tweeting. It is not far between the US and

:16:11. > :16:16.Cuba, in fact the two nearest points are about 170 kilometres, 100 miles

:16:17. > :16:28.apart, but despite it being nearby, it has been a very long

:16:29. > :16:31.time since things looked like this, 1928, and President Calvin Coolidge

:16:32. > :16:36.was president of the United States. Fidel Castro would have been about

:16:37. > :16:40.three years old at the time. Let's hear more about how it has been

:16:41. > :16:46.received. We can speak to will grant in Havana. We were reading it on

:16:47. > :16:53.Twitter, what has the reaction been in Cuba to this visit on March 21?

:16:54. > :16:57.By and large very positive, as you can imagine, Cubans have been

:16:58. > :17:00.waiting for this announcement pretty much since the fall was announced

:17:01. > :17:05.since Washington -- between Washington and Havana at the end of

:17:06. > :17:09.2014. People had been expecting it might happen but not wanting to

:17:10. > :17:15.imagine it would. There have been many false dawns between these two

:17:16. > :17:19.old enemies for so long. But it will happen, March 21, it has been

:17:20. > :17:24.announced both by the White House and President Obama on Twitter, and

:17:25. > :17:27.also now by the Cuban government informing its people on state

:17:28. > :17:31.television. The sense of excitement has already begun and the next few

:17:32. > :17:35.weeks will see a real build-up before he gets here. What are the

:17:36. > :17:45.Cuban people hoping to achieve with the visit of President Obama? One

:17:46. > :17:49.man I spoke to on the street around the BBC office here said to me that

:17:50. > :17:54.what he was most concerned with was that President Obama helps the Cuban

:17:55. > :17:58.people. I think what he meant was that this doesn't turn into an

:17:59. > :18:02.institutional visit, President speaks to president and those at the

:18:03. > :18:06.bottom of society are forgotten. The White House I think will be

:18:07. > :18:11.sensitive to that, there will be a lot of gladhanding and pressing the

:18:12. > :18:15.flesh in the streets, President Obama has that rock star status when

:18:16. > :18:19.he travels the world, and he may find it reaches new levels when he

:18:20. > :18:24.comes to Cuba. But I also think the White House will be careful to find

:18:25. > :18:28.-- make sure there are meetings between Obama and dissident groups

:18:29. > :18:34.to make sure the humans rights question has not been forgotten by

:18:35. > :18:39.Washington and is one of the areas Obama wants to speak to Castro

:18:40. > :18:45.about. Thank you very much, will grant from her van. The picture will

:18:46. > :18:48.be different from when Calvin Coolidge visited! More politics,

:18:49. > :18:53.this time in Uganda, people have been voting for the next president.

:18:54. > :18:57.The incumbent has been in power for 30 years but faces a challenge from

:18:58. > :19:01.seven other candidates. It hasn't all gone smoothly today, voting

:19:02. > :19:05.extended in some parts of the country after long delays. Two

:19:06. > :19:10.polling stations and the process abandoned after police clashed with

:19:11. > :19:15.voters angry about the weight. Let's hear more from Catherine.

:19:16. > :19:19.These men were furious. After waiting hours to vote at a polling

:19:20. > :19:26.station in Kampala, it never happened. The police then fired tear

:19:27. > :19:31.gas to contain the situation. This is one example of an area where the

:19:32. > :19:37.police about constant clashes with voters. It took seven hours for the

:19:38. > :19:41.polling materials to arrive. When they did they were incomplete so

:19:42. > :19:45.only parliamentary votes and not presidential ballots, so the people

:19:46. > :19:48.tore them up, through the papers on the fall, eventually the electoral

:19:49. > :20:04.commission officials add to rule out, so there will be no voting here

:20:05. > :20:09.today. TRANSLATION: We need change. Several hundred kilometres away, the

:20:10. > :20:12.main opposition candidate voted earlier in the day. He has

:20:13. > :20:18.maintained that the electoral process is not free and fair. The

:20:19. > :20:23.president and his wife rated as well, but it was not a long wait for

:20:24. > :20:28.them. He was adamant that earlier clashes in Kampala will not

:20:29. > :20:33.continue. In the baking hot sun, people queued up for hours to be

:20:34. > :20:37.able to cast their ballot. The electoral commission apologised and

:20:38. > :20:42.extended voting by three hours up till 7pm local time, but there is

:20:43. > :20:47.uncertainty as to whether this is enough to ensure everyone takes

:20:48. > :20:51.part. At this monitoring station calls have been coming in from

:20:52. > :20:56.across the country. Most people had issues because of delayed voting. It

:20:57. > :21:00.was a lifeline for many, especially with some social media sites being

:21:01. > :21:05.blocked by the authorities. Incidents like this dissuade you

:21:06. > :21:11.from participating in democratic processes, Pat Dileep mac --

:21:12. > :21:16.perpetrate apathy because people think, what is the point if it will

:21:17. > :21:23.take the whole day? Some vote counting is going ahead this

:21:24. > :21:29.evening. But the question is how the disruptions on polling day will

:21:30. > :21:35.affect the final result. In another update on that story, the

:21:36. > :21:38.President's main rival was briefly detained by police with a move

:21:39. > :21:44.condemned by the US State Department. It follows his elect

:21:45. > :21:47.allegations of vote rigging. The Ugandan authorities denied the

:21:48. > :21:50.allegation in a statement and added that he had assaulted a police

:21:51. > :22:00.officer. Now to some film stars, the Intel

:22:01. > :22:02.careers were linked for decades but for William Shatner and Leonard

:22:03. > :22:06.Outside Source it was only the beginning. They became lifelong

:22:07. > :22:10.friends even though there were bumps along the way. Mr Shatner now

:22:11. > :22:12.recounts the off-camera details of their relationship and the BBC went

:22:13. > :22:23.to meet him. In exploring this book, I learned

:22:24. > :22:28.more about Leonard, perhaps not more, but a great deal about

:22:29. > :22:39.Leonard, that I hadn't known before. His fast and historical interest in

:22:40. > :22:44.photography, the things he wrote, some of the movies he was in, the

:22:45. > :22:51.plays that he did, and the musicals he was in. A musical, I didn't know

:22:52. > :22:55.he was on that! I didn't know he sang!

:22:56. > :23:06.We both had gotten criticism, we were both made fun of in a way, by

:23:07. > :23:14.having our voices on some records of actors who thought they could sing.

:23:15. > :23:23.So we both laughed about that. But he was doing it professionally and

:23:24. > :23:28.doing it well, wow, I didn't know that! The rivalry, I guess, could be

:23:29. > :23:33.a term to use, it is dramatic, but it was the push and shove of actors

:23:34. > :23:36.finding their way in a new venture. Had we known each other earlier, I

:23:37. > :23:44.don't think that would have happened, but on that occasion, as a

:23:45. > :23:49.young actor, everybody hungry, there was just sling, but it wasn't any

:23:50. > :23:55.more than that. I would like all those fans to take away the

:23:56. > :24:04.knowledge of how wonderful I had with Leonard Nimoy and how dear he

:24:05. > :24:08.was to me. Friendship is very difficult to get, because what

:24:09. > :24:15.happens between actors on a movie or a television series or a play, the

:24:16. > :24:23.passions of the venture bond you. When the venture is over, you say

:24:24. > :24:28.goodbye. There are instances where you say, man, I'll call you

:24:29. > :24:33.tomorrow, we had lunch, and it never happens, and it is all gone. In the

:24:34. > :24:40.business we are in where you are roaming a lot, solid connections are

:24:41. > :24:47.difficult to make, and I cherish the one I had with Leonard.

:24:48. > :24:51.What a relationship, a long one. We will be back on Monday on Outside

:24:52. > :24:55.Source. From me and the team, goodbye, thanks for spending some of

:24:56. > :25:12.your day with us. You can find us on Twitter. The hashtag is #BBCOS.

:25:13. > :25:19.Thanks for tuning in. Time to look at the weather for the next few

:25:20. > :25:20.days, a lot of changeable weather, actually, as we