:00:11. > :00:15.Welcome to Outside Source. A few hours ago we heard President Obama
:00:16. > :00:19.talking about one of the most high profile issues of his time in
:00:20. > :00:22.office. I'm absolutely committed to closing the detention facility at
:00:23. > :00:27.Guantanamo. I'm going to continue to make the case for doing so as long
:00:28. > :00:31.as I hold this office. He'll make the case, but how practical will
:00:32. > :00:37.this be? We're live in our Washington newsroom. New statistics
:00:38. > :00:40.on the European migrant crisis. One migrant every minute arrives by boat
:00:41. > :00:44.into Europe, according to figures for this year. Over 100,000 have
:00:45. > :00:48.arrived just in January and February. That's a big jump on
:00:49. > :00:51.lastory's figures. Our Europe correspondent Chris Morris has been
:00:52. > :00:55.talking to me about the pressure this is applying to the European
:00:56. > :00:58.Union. One person has died and three are
:00:59. > :01:04.unaccounted for after the collapse of part of a power station in
:01:05. > :01:08.southern England. We update you on millions of Mars bars and Snickers
:01:09. > :01:12.bars being recalled around the world because of piece of plastic in one
:01:13. > :01:16.bar. Details to come. It is a mouth watering night in the
:01:17. > :01:20.Champions League, Juventus against Bayern and in London, Arsenal
:01:21. > :01:22.against Barcelona. As soon as the final whistles go, we'll tell you
:01:23. > :01:43.the scores. When Barack Obama first ran for
:01:44. > :01:47.president, he promised to close the Guantanamo Bay detention facility.
:01:48. > :01:51.We're now eight years on, almost two terms of his presidency are
:01:52. > :01:58.complete, and Mr Obama is saying once begin he's going to try and
:01:59. > :02:01.close it down. In Congress I recognise, in part because of some
:02:02. > :02:05.of the fears of the public, that have been fanned often times by
:02:06. > :02:11.misinformation, there continues to be a fair amount of opposition to
:02:12. > :02:16.closing Guantanamo. If it were easy, it would have happened years ago, as
:02:17. > :02:24.I wanted. As I have been working to try and get done. But there remains
:02:25. > :02:28.bipartisan support for closing it. Given the stakes involved for our
:02:29. > :02:34.security, this plan deserves a fair hearing, even in an election year.
:02:35. > :02:36.We should be able to have an open, honest g,-faith dialogue, about how
:02:37. > :02:44.to best ensure our national security. Guantanamo Bay is a bay in
:02:45. > :02:48.Cuba. But of course, it's also given its name to this detention facility
:02:49. > :02:53.on the island. If you're wondering why it's in cubament the US has had
:02:54. > :02:59.-- Cuba, the US has had control of this part of Cuba since the early
:03:00. > :03:03.Twentieth Century. There's one detail that was highlighted, the
:03:04. > :03:07.DOD, Department of Defense says, it wants to close the facility, but it
:03:08. > :03:13.doesn't name a specific US site which could replace it. In fact it
:03:14. > :03:18.offers a choice of 13, all the evidence suggests that Republicans
:03:19. > :03:23.don't seem keen on any of those 13 options. We spotted this a little
:03:24. > :03:27.while ago, posted by the Republican centre Pat Roberts. -- senator Pat
:03:28. > :03:38.Roberts. This is what I think of the president's plan. 'S plan. To send
:03:39. > :03:42.terrorists to the United States. That's the senator's point made.
:03:43. > :03:49.Let's speak to our correspondent live in Washington DC. A pity video
:03:50. > :03:53.there, does this feel at all practical or is it the president
:03:54. > :03:57.just making a point? Well, he is making a point. This is clearly very
:03:58. > :04:00.important to him. It was one of the very first promises he made when he
:04:01. > :04:03.came into office that he would close Guantanamo Bay down within a year.
:04:04. > :04:09.It's still very important to him and his legacy. I really don't think
:04:10. > :04:12.he's got much chance of getting this through Congress. You saw that
:04:13. > :04:16.reaction there from one Republican. But there have been reactions like
:04:17. > :04:20.that across the Republican Party, but also from some within the
:04:21. > :04:23.Democratic Party as well in recent years. I have to say, though we've
:04:24. > :04:27.been talking about this a great deal, if feels like forever, there
:04:28. > :04:30.isn't much new in what's been announced today. We were made to
:04:31. > :04:34.feel, from the White House, that this wars a big deal. Actually he's
:04:35. > :04:38.talking about a lot of the same things he's talking about before,
:04:39. > :04:42.which is to return home, or to other countries those cleared for release.
:04:43. > :04:45.Out of the 91 people left in Guantanamo Bay that's about 35 of
:04:46. > :04:51.those. There are some problems there. The other thing is to try
:04:52. > :04:54.those who can be tried in civilian courts, but if that was possible, it
:04:55. > :05:01.might have happened already. So there are problems there. The big
:05:02. > :05:05.thing he's focussed on is with those dangerous prisoners, those deemed
:05:06. > :05:09.dangerous to security of the United States, they should be housed in a
:05:10. > :05:15.facility which is yet to be created somewhere in the United States. He
:05:16. > :05:19.is playing more, particularly to a Republican audience, by saying OK,
:05:20. > :05:22.if you don't agree with closing Guantanamo Bay down for humanitarian
:05:23. > :05:28.reasons, what about fiscal reasons? It is going to save money. I went to
:05:29. > :05:32.Guantanamo Bay last year, it is a sprawling facility and costs
:05:33. > :05:37.apparently $450 million to run last year. So his point is - this could
:05:38. > :05:40.save money as well. This is all stuff that politicians here have
:05:41. > :05:44.heard before and there doesn't seem to be enough in it to change
:05:45. > :05:48.anyone's mind. Let's hear more about what it's like. Tell us about the
:05:49. > :05:53.terrain, its size, how many staff have they got there? Even though the
:05:54. > :05:59.number of detainees has come down from nearly 800 no less than 100 now
:06:00. > :06:02.-- to less than 100 now, the facility has grown massively to
:06:03. > :06:07.different wings, some for very high security prisoners, who are kept in
:06:08. > :06:12.isolation. Then there are somewhere they're kept in less isolation, then
:06:13. > :06:18.a unit that we managed to go to where you can see through two-way
:06:19. > :06:23.mirrors. The detainees, who've been cleared for release, who have always
:06:24. > :06:26.been compliant, sitting, watching TV, reading newspapers and having
:06:27. > :06:30.access to much more facilities than those in the high security wings.
:06:31. > :06:36.But it is a huge facility with a great deal of staff. You still need
:06:37. > :06:40.a large amount of security. So even though the number of detainees has
:06:41. > :06:46.come down, the cost per detainee has gone up. Thank you very much for
:06:47. > :06:50.that update. I've got various developments with
:06:51. > :06:55.relation to Europe's migrant crisis I want to bring you. First, that
:06:56. > :06:59.stistics. It comes -- statistics. It comes from the international
:07:00. > :07:01.organisation for migration. It says more tan 100,000 people have come
:07:02. > :07:06.across the Mediterranean to Greece or Italy this year. To give you an
:07:07. > :07:12.idea, that means around one person every minute is coming in. That is
:07:13. > :07:16.far, far, faster a rate of migration than we saw last year. Next, I want
:07:17. > :07:20.to show you these pictures. These are from the border between Greece
:07:21. > :07:23.and Macedonia. Greece is now saying it's going to have to take some of
:07:24. > :07:29.these people, Afghan migrants, back to Athens. The reason for that is
:07:30. > :07:34.that Macedonia is saying Syrians and Iraqi migrants can come through, but
:07:35. > :07:38.Afghans can't. Those people who are coming through are not likely to
:07:39. > :07:42.stay in Macedonia. They're looking to head north, through a route we've
:07:43. > :07:46.shown you many times, through Serbia, Hungary, Austria, it's
:07:47. > :07:50.likely their chosen final destination will be Germany or
:07:51. > :07:54.Sweden. Another element of the story is playing out in northern Europe,
:07:55. > :07:57.because Belgium is now saying the border with France is going to have
:07:58. > :08:02.temporary border controls introduced. The reason - it's a
:08:03. > :08:07.direct response to migrants who are beginning to leave the so-called
:08:08. > :08:11.Jungle camp in Calais in expectation of the French authorities clearing
:08:12. > :08:15.that camp. Remember, Europe has a free movement zone, the UK is not
:08:16. > :08:19.part of it. But Belgium and France certainly are. Having even
:08:20. > :08:25.temporarily closed borders is definitely not part of the plan.
:08:26. > :08:30.When we're talking about Europe, we turn to Chris Morris. He's based in
:08:31. > :08:34.our newsroom in Brussels, but he's in London today. He explained the
:08:35. > :08:38.impact these stories are having on the European Union. The problem is
:08:39. > :08:42.Calais is close to the Belgian border. If migrants are pushed away
:08:43. > :08:47.from there, there's a port in Belgium, which has had a problem
:08:48. > :08:50.with migrants trying to get on lorries and boats heading for the
:08:51. > :08:53.UK. They shut the border. That's what we're seeing across Europe.
:08:54. > :08:56.People feel the policy is out of control. They're not sure what to
:08:57. > :09:02.do. They go safety first and shut borders. The dream, the aspiration
:09:03. > :09:05.of the European Union is that countries come together and offer a
:09:06. > :09:08.unified response to the chaling engs of the day. That feels -- challenges
:09:09. > :09:12.of the day. That feels like a dream at the moment. It's under real
:09:13. > :09:15.threat, under threat as it never has been before. Don't underestimate the
:09:16. > :09:22.political will to keep it together at the top from people like Angela
:09:23. > :09:25.Merkel and Francois Hollande. They don't want to let this thing fall
:09:26. > :09:29.apart. There will be massive political effort to keep things
:09:30. > :09:33.together. For example, there have been real disagreements on the
:09:34. > :09:36.refugee and migration issue between countries in western Europe and
:09:37. > :09:42.Eastern Europe. One possibility is if those country in -- countries in
:09:43. > :09:48.Eastern Europe refuse to cooperate with Germany, Germany might say
:09:49. > :09:52.well, we'll create our mini Schengen with France, Austria, Belgium and
:09:53. > :09:56.the Netherlands. These are dangerous times for those who believe that
:09:57. > :09:59.Schengen borders is one of the EU's greatest acheements. Difficult times
:10:00. > :10:02.as well for people who want to persuade everyone in the UK that a
:10:03. > :10:07.vote to stay in the European Union is a good idea. The European Union
:10:08. > :10:12.has looked in better health on other occasions I can think of. Yeah,
:10:13. > :10:17.there are two different issues on migration. I think there's a danger
:10:18. > :10:21.that we conflate the two. There are people from countries like Poland
:10:22. > :10:24.looking for work in the UK, who are internal migrants within the
:10:25. > :10:27.European Union. They are quite different from Syrians or Iraqis
:10:28. > :10:35.arriving by boat in Greece or Italy, from countries Then heading further
:10:36. > :10:38.north. If you see through yot the summer, scenes of chaos in the
:10:39. > :10:43.Balkans. People queuing up at borders. The sense that no-one's in
:10:44. > :10:47.control that. Will play a role in the UK campaign. I think people who
:10:48. > :10:51.are close to the Prime Minister in the UK, people close to EU
:10:52. > :10:55.institutions in Brussels are very worried that they realise those
:10:56. > :10:59.images could increase the pull for the leave campaign. Here in the UK,
:11:00. > :11:03.the referendum has been all consuming. You can't be unaware of
:11:04. > :11:06.it. That's quite right, this vote could have an effect for a
:11:07. > :11:12.generation on how this country fits into the world. Is it all consuming
:11:13. > :11:16.in Brussels or are other issues overshadowing it? Migration,
:11:17. > :11:20.migration. At the summit a lot of time was spent talking about the UK.
:11:21. > :11:24.There wasn't an undercurrent of irritation among other leaders, why
:11:25. > :11:27.spend so much time talking about David Cameron's problems when we
:11:28. > :11:31.have a full blown crisis across the continent. They have two summits
:11:32. > :11:36.next month to talk about migration. Only ten days apart. Why two? One of
:11:37. > :11:41.them is on March 17, but four days before that, there are three
:11:42. > :11:44.regional, German elections. Angela Merkel fears a battering in those
:11:45. > :11:48.elections because of the way she's handled the migration crisis. She's
:11:49. > :11:51.asked for another summit before those elections at which she wants
:11:52. > :11:55.to produce some real sign of progress. Will they do it? Not by
:11:56. > :11:59.the looks what have we've seen today. Countries still closing
:12:00. > :12:05.borders. The restrictions there between Macedonia and Greece and as
:12:06. > :12:09.people close borders, there is a chain of events takes place as a
:12:10. > :12:13.bottleneck grows in Greece. There's a real concern that no-one's got a
:12:14. > :12:18.hold of this. It's not getting any better. Time is running out to solve
:12:19. > :12:24.it. Many thanks to Chris for passing by.
:12:25. > :12:28.Now one of the main stories here in the UK, one person has been killed,
:12:29. > :12:33.three others are missing, after the collapse of part of the Didcot power
:12:34. > :12:40.station in southern England. This has been declared a major incident.
:12:41. > :12:45.These images show a section of this building which has collapsed. It's
:12:46. > :12:49.part of Didcot A, the power station that was decommissioned in 2013 and
:12:50. > :12:55.which is in the process of being demolished. On the ground, five
:12:56. > :13:00.crews, ambulances and specialist rescue teams. The emergency services
:13:01. > :13:07.were called mid-afternoon, after what was thought to have been an
:13:08. > :13:10.explosion. This video, posted on social media, shows dust rising from
:13:11. > :13:16.one side of the building and witnesses have described hearing a
:13:17. > :13:20.loud bang. You can see the power station clearly from where I am,
:13:21. > :13:24.about 400 yards away. About 4pm, when I heard the explosion and the
:13:25. > :13:30.loud rumbling, by the time I'd looked out the window, there was a
:13:31. > :13:34.huge cloud of dust, which came through our village. When that had
:13:35. > :13:37.cleared, I noticed that half of the old power station, where they used
:13:38. > :13:42.to keep the generators, that half of that was missing. But the
:13:43. > :13:47.authorities now say it was not an explosion. Instead, the building
:13:48. > :13:49.collapsed, killing one person. Five others were taken to hospital and
:13:50. > :14:01.three are still missing. The Fire Service has been speaking
:14:02. > :14:06.in the last few minutes. Emergency services were called to Didcot A
:14:07. > :14:11.power station about 4pm today. There was a partial collapse of a large
:14:12. > :14:15.building, which is approximately 300 metres long and ten storeys high.
:14:16. > :14:21.The building was due to be demolished in the coming months.
:14:22. > :14:25.Oxfordshire Fire Rescue Service has commanded the incident,
:14:26. > :14:28.supported by South Central ambulance and Thames Valley Police. Sadly, one
:14:29. > :14:34.person has been confirmed to have died at the incident. Of course, if
:14:35. > :14:40.we get more on that, we'll bring it to you here on Outside Source. In
:14:41. > :14:43.business, we will talk about a very big day for Mars. There's the
:14:44. > :14:48.company, but it makes Mars bars and Snickers bars. There have been a
:14:49. > :14:51.huge number of recalls around the world, 55 countries affected, all to
:14:52. > :14:54.do with one bar which may have had pieces of plastic in it. We will
:14:55. > :15:04.give you all the details. Junior doctors in England have
:15:05. > :15:08.announced that they're going to hold three more strikes, each taking
:15:09. > :15:12.place over 48 hours. The British Medical Association also announced
:15:13. > :15:16.that it will seek a judicial review into the Government's plans to
:15:17. > :15:20.impose controversial new contracts. Ministers say the contract will
:15:21. > :15:26.improve services. Downing Street says the announcement of more
:15:27. > :15:31.strikes was regrettable. These strikes are going to be longer
:15:32. > :15:34.than the ones before, those still affecting routine and nonurgent
:15:35. > :15:37.care, not emergencies. Junior doctors will cover those. The BMA
:15:38. > :15:41.are going to go to court to challenge the legality of the
:15:42. > :15:45.imposition of the new contract. They and their members seem as resolved
:15:46. > :15:48.as ever to carry on with this. They say they're very angry with the
:15:49. > :15:53.decision by the Government to impose the new contract. The Government say
:15:54. > :15:58.they have a long way -- they've gone a long way to make compromises. They
:15:59. > :16:10.are frustrated with the BMA's tactics and they have to introduce
:16:11. > :16:14.the new contract. We're live from the BBC Newsroom. Our lead story:
:16:15. > :16:20.President Obama has unveiled his latest plan to close the Guantanamo
:16:21. > :16:24.Bay detention centre. He's appealed to Congress to support it. Based on
:16:25. > :16:27.Republican reactions, wouldn't bank on that happening.
:16:28. > :16:33.The main stories from the World Service. First from BBC Hindi. The
:16:34. > :16:37.water supply from Delhi has been partially restored. Ten million
:16:38. > :16:41.people were without water because a canal was sabotaged. But it could
:16:42. > :16:44.still take two weeks to get back to normal.
:16:45. > :16:50.There are reports of celebrations in the streets of Benghazi in Libya.
:16:51. > :16:53.It's believed that forces loyal to the internationally recognised
:16:54. > :16:58.government have made significant progress against Islamist militants.
:16:59. > :17:04.These pictures from BBC Arabic. Around 160 passengers and crew
:17:05. > :17:09.escaped down those emergency chutes after engine smoke forced a Japan
:17:10. > :17:13.airlines to abort. Four passengers were taken to hospital with
:17:14. > :17:21.injuries. This video is in the most watched list on the BBC News app.
:17:22. > :17:25.As I mentioned, Mars bars, Snickers bars in 55 countries are being
:17:26. > :17:29.recalled. This is all because one customer reported finding bits of
:17:30. > :17:33.plastic in one bar. Mars, the company, is one of the world's
:17:34. > :17:37.biggest confectionary producers. It's told us today that the bar in
:17:38. > :17:42.question was made in the Netherlands. We know the initial
:17:43. > :17:46.recall was made in Germany. As I mentioned, very quickly, it widened
:17:47. > :17:49.far beyond there. Our business correspondent has been covering this
:17:50. > :17:55.all day. He's been giving me more details. With this kind of thing,
:17:56. > :17:58.it's all about damage limitation. Mars presumably doesn't yet know
:17:59. > :18:02.whether this could be a widespread problem. It says that the plastic
:18:03. > :18:06.found in one chocolate bar represented a choking risk and
:18:07. > :18:10.therefore, as a matter of precaution, it's voluntarily issuing
:18:11. > :18:15.a recall. These products come from a factory in the Netherlands. Most
:18:16. > :18:19.sold in Germany, France and the Netherlands itself. But some are
:18:20. > :18:23.sold overseas as well. Even though it's 55 countries, all the bars
:18:24. > :18:27.recalled come from this one source? Yes, just from one factory. That
:18:28. > :18:33.means there are limited numbers in other countries. Here in the UK for
:18:34. > :18:37.example, it only concerns fun-sized Snickers, fun-sized Mars bars, packs
:18:38. > :18:40.of celebrations that kind of thing. It doesn't include the full-sized
:18:41. > :18:44.product. In the UK, Mars bars are made in the UK. It's only the
:18:45. > :18:49.products from this one factory in the Netherlands. In terms of its
:18:50. > :18:52.business how much of a hit will it take? It has a large number of
:18:53. > :18:57.factories in the United States alone, I think more than 35. It
:18:58. > :19:01.makes a vast range of products. It makes things like pet foods. This is
:19:02. > :19:06.the output of one factory. It's not the only factory that makes these
:19:07. > :19:09.products, far from it. There is a large number of companies, countries
:19:10. > :19:13.involved. There will be a lot of chocolate bars, but compared to what
:19:14. > :19:16.the company actually makes worldwide, a fairly small affair.
:19:17. > :19:22.And reputation is at stake. A company like Mars cannot afford to
:19:23. > :19:26.see its reputation damage.ed. Think back to Nestle with Maggie noodles
:19:27. > :19:29.in India. If you don't issue the recall at the first opportunity,
:19:30. > :19:33.consumers will take that very, very badly.
:19:34. > :19:37.Just to reiterate what was said, these are only bars being recalled
:19:38. > :19:44.because they were made in one factory in the Netherlands.
:19:45. > :19:49.Someone's watching closely. A tweet to say, perhaps Messi deserves a
:19:50. > :19:53.chocolate bar, he's just scored. Yes, Barcelona now lead 1-0. Arsenal
:19:54. > :19:58.hosting, but they're down. We'll keep you up to date on that game.
:19:59. > :20:03.Time for an update on the battle between the FBI and Apple. We have
:20:04. > :20:08.been talking about this a lot. The FBI wants Apple to help it access
:20:09. > :20:15.the data on a phone that belonged to one of the attackers in the San
:20:16. > :20:17.Bernardino attacks. Bill gates has been commenting on the case. He told
:20:18. > :20:35.the Financial Times this: He did say later that he doesn't
:20:36. > :20:39.mean by Tha'it he's backing the FBI -- by that, that he's backing the
:20:40. > :20:43.FBI. Let's speak to Michelle, live in New York. We talked about it last
:20:44. > :20:49.night. It's feeling more and more like this is a lightning rod for a
:20:50. > :20:53.far greater issue in the US. Well, it depends on which side you sit.
:20:54. > :20:58.Some people are characterising this as a case of security versus
:20:59. > :21:04.privacy. Others are saying no, this is a case of security versus
:21:05. > :21:09.surveillance. Bill Gates was trying to be backed, if you like, into one
:21:10. > :21:14.particular position that he supported the FBI. He came out to
:21:15. > :21:19.say, no, what I wanted to express was a more nuanced view that there
:21:20. > :21:24.are instances where authorities should be able to get hold of
:21:25. > :21:29.information, no different than, for example, in the past where law
:21:30. > :21:32.enforcement might ask for access to your bank records or to phone
:21:33. > :21:37.information. He was saying, at the same time, it shouldn't be a blanket
:21:38. > :21:43.agreement. It's taking a different view that say some of his peers in
:21:44. > :21:46.Silicon Valley, who've gone for a more blanket support of Apple. You
:21:47. > :21:50.don't have to look hard to find evidence this is playing out in the
:21:51. > :21:53.court of public opinion. I am curious to know, once we've heard
:21:54. > :21:58.everyone having their say on this, that's got nothing to do with it.
:21:59. > :22:03.How is this thrashed out whether Apple has to cooperate? There is a
:22:04. > :22:08.legal procedure in place. But there is no doubt that the PR side of this
:22:09. > :22:11.is very significant. If you look at the Justice Department, Apple's
:22:12. > :22:16.preference would have been to resolve this issue behind closed
:22:17. > :22:21.doors, in court, with lawyers. The Justice Department chose - or the
:22:22. > :22:26.FBI chose to make it a public matter to force Apple's hands in the public
:22:27. > :22:30.domain. There are signs, at least in the public court of opinion, that
:22:31. > :22:35.it's working. A survey, we talked about this yesterday, suggested that
:22:36. > :22:40.most Americans side with the FBI. The latest thing we've heard is that
:22:41. > :22:44.the Justice Department is trying to get victims, family members to
:22:45. > :22:51.support them in their efforts. This will continue to play out alongside
:22:52. > :22:54.the legal proceedings, at the same time supporters of Apple will
:22:55. > :22:56.protest outside some of their stores in the United States and in other
:22:57. > :22:59.parts of the world, certainly here if New York, I think that is
:23:00. > :23:05.scheduled to happen in an hour from now. Amazing how this story is Greg
:23:06. > :23:14.and growing and the -- growing and growing. Thank you, Michelle.
:23:15. > :23:17.Let's look at the business side of the European Union referendum, the
:23:18. > :23:21.EU referendum that's going to be held here in the UK, specifically in
:23:22. > :23:24.this report, Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland. Northern
:23:25. > :23:28.Ireland is the only part of the UK that has a land border with the
:23:29. > :23:32.eurozone. That's because the Republic is a member of the European
:23:33. > :23:36.Union but it uses the euro as its currency as well. As you can
:23:37. > :23:43.imagine, people on both sides of the border are watching this debate very
:23:44. > :23:47.closely. Through this land there is a border,
:23:48. > :23:53.which marks where the UK ends and the Republic of Ireland begins. Not
:23:54. > :23:57.that you'd know it. Most people in this area are used to travelling
:23:58. > :24:02.across the invisible line marked somewhere in this ground to work,
:24:03. > :24:05.shop and socialise. There are advantages to living at the edge of
:24:06. > :24:10.two states - there's often a choice of paying in pounds or euros and
:24:11. > :24:15.across the border, you might find a bargain. If it's petrol, then at the
:24:16. > :24:22.moment it's better to go to the south. Exchange to euros and go to
:24:23. > :24:25.the south. A definite difference doesn't worry some companies in
:24:26. > :24:29.Northern Ireland who feel the UK is too wrapped up with Europe. They
:24:30. > :24:33.exported 90 billion more to us than we actually bought from them last
:24:34. > :24:36.year. Are they actually going to stop that? All the fear is complete
:24:37. > :24:42.nonsense. We need to be free to trade with the rest of the world.
:24:43. > :24:45.Yet companies like Ovo are used to operating both sides of the border.
:24:46. > :24:50.The hotel there is in the south of Ireland. We're in the north. At its
:24:51. > :24:55.offices, which are in the north an the south, it develops and
:24:56. > :24:59.manufactures products that allow flat-pack furniture to simply snap
:25:00. > :25:04.together. It's already considering its options, should the UK not stick
:25:05. > :25:08.with Europe. For us, if the UK were to pull out, we would definitely
:25:09. > :25:14.consider moving all our business into the south. Why? We do fear that
:25:15. > :25:19.it will make life awkward and it would make more sense for us to move
:25:20. > :25:23.the entire company into a European company. There are some in Ireland
:25:24. > :25:28.thinking of the possible opportunities offered by the UK's
:25:29. > :25:32.exit to strengthen trading links across these islands. We've a lot
:25:33. > :25:37.more in common with the UK than we have - what do we have in common
:25:38. > :25:43.with Croatia, you know, Lithuania, Germany? On both sides of this
:25:44. > :25:46.referendum debate, there is a reluctance to make any change to the
:25:47. > :25:54.open roads and open border shared by these nearest of neighbours.
:25:55. > :26:06.Thanks, Chris for that. I'll speak to you in a couple of minutes.
:26:07. > :26:10.We'll update you on the European weather in a couple of minutes.
:26:11. > :26:18.First, I want to take you across the world to show you the latest on
:26:19. > :26:19.tropical cyclone Winston, which as I'm sure you've seen from the news