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:00:12. > :00:13.Hello, I'm Nuala McGovern, this is Outside Source.

:00:14. > :00:15.At least 18 people are dead after a flyover collapsed

:00:16. > :00:19.Emergency services continue to work frantically to rescue people trapped

:00:20. > :00:24.Republican presidential hopeful Donald Trump

:00:25. > :00:29.This time it's for his comments on abortion.

:00:30. > :00:33.Katty Kay will be with me to talk us through the story.

:00:34. > :00:44.The West Indies have beaten India to reach the final of cricket's

:00:45. > :01:05.Don't forget you can get in touch with us.

:01:06. > :01:08.Donald Trump is in the news again, this time for his comments

:01:09. > :01:12.The Republican hopeful said in an interview that if abortion

:01:13. > :01:15.were made illegal, women should be held responsible and punished

:01:16. > :01:20.But hours later he issued a clarification, saying

:01:21. > :01:22.doctors should be legally responsible, not women.

:01:23. > :01:34.So far so normal, another town hall, another interview, another highly

:01:35. > :01:39.provacative comment from the Republican front runner.

:01:40. > :01:41.This time on abortion, and what should happen to women

:01:42. > :01:44.who have the procedure if it has been outlawed.

:01:45. > :01:47.You do believe in punishment in principle?

:01:48. > :01:50.The answer is that there has to be some form of punishment.

:01:51. > :01:53.Yes, there has to be some punishment.

:01:54. > :01:57.You take positions on everything else.

:01:58. > :02:02.I take positions and it's a very complicated position.

:02:03. > :02:05.Then things went askew, yes, he was under fire from some

:02:06. > :02:13.To punish a woman for having an abortion is beyond comprehension.

:02:14. > :02:17.What he said today is just among the most outrageous and dangerous

:02:18. > :02:21.statements I have heard anybody running for president say

:02:22. > :02:26.What he hadn't anticipated was that his own backers would pile

:02:27. > :02:32.I don't think he was prepared and I don't think

:02:33. > :02:39.He had to walk it back and issue a statement to clarify

:02:40. > :02:43.It was a terrible answer, no one will defend what he said,

:02:44. > :02:46.because the idea of, well, we have do have some punishment,

:02:47. > :02:49.and even in his answer it looked as though he was fumbling around

:02:50. > :02:52.The statement was a spectacular U-turn.

:02:53. > :03:11.Donald Trump is in Washington today meeting his foreign policy advisers,

:03:12. > :03:16.but perhaps when he needs most help is with women.

:03:17. > :03:20.Since issuing the statement last night to has had nothing to say

:03:21. > :03:23.about the controversy on social media - very unusual for him.

:03:24. > :03:26.For the first time we have seen Donald Trump on the run

:03:27. > :03:44.Let's cross to my colleague Katty Kay in Washington DC. Good to have

:03:45. > :03:49.you back with us, Katty. Another day, another Donald Trump headline,

:03:50. > :03:53.I don't know how many we are hitting so far, probably seven. But let's

:03:54. > :03:57.have a look at the larger picture for the Republican field, perhaps,

:03:58. > :04:02.to begin with. Generally speaking, I would say when

:04:03. > :04:07.Donald Trump says something outrageous and gets nonstop media

:04:08. > :04:12.coverage it seems to be good for his campaign. That has been the case

:04:13. > :04:15.every time. Whatever the controversial statement, however

:04:16. > :04:21.outrageous the press seems to think it is, the poll mums go up. I think

:04:22. > :04:25.this may be different because women in America decide elections. They

:04:26. > :04:31.are the swing voters, if you like. Donald Trump has a problem in the

:04:32. > :04:35.polls with women. He has something like a 20% gap between his support

:04:36. > :04:41.among men and his support among women. If he wants to win the

:04:42. > :04:46.nomination and the presidency, he has to close that gap. Comments like

:04:47. > :04:52.the one he made on abortion and the fact that women who have abortion

:04:53. > :04:57.should be punished, do nothing to endear him to swing voters,

:04:58. > :05:03.especially female voters. And he has changed his position when

:05:04. > :05:08.it comes to the issue of abortion, described previously as pro-choice,

:05:09. > :05:15.now he calls himself pro-life. How important is it as an issue in the

:05:16. > :05:21.electorate? A decade ago, rum thrum rum described him as very, very

:05:22. > :05:26.pro-choice. So there is some scepticism among Christian

:05:27. > :05:30.conservatives for whom it is an issue, as to whether he is pro-

:05:31. > :05:36.choice or pro-life. You would think that would really hurt him in the

:05:37. > :05:42.polls but looking at the primary races, Donald Trump has done well

:05:43. > :05:47.amongst the evangelical voters. They have seemed to have said, he is a

:05:48. > :05:53.little squishy on the issue, we don't know what his issue is, if he

:05:54. > :05:58.is as pro- life as we like him to be but we are voting him any way. What

:05:59. > :06:03.is different this time around is that the pro-life community, the

:06:04. > :06:10.Christian conservatives have come out against Donald Trump as

:06:11. > :06:14.indignantly as the pro- choice. That has prompted this unique U-turn that

:06:15. > :06:20.he made on a policy issue. We have eight months until the big

:06:21. > :06:26.day. How would you describe the landscape, I know, how would you

:06:27. > :06:30.describe the landscape now? What should our viewers be watching for?

:06:31. > :06:34.You have to give him the odds-on favourite of being the Republican

:06:35. > :06:38.nominee. Yes this put him in trouble, yes the poll numbers are

:06:39. > :06:46.slipping in the next crucial primary, that is Wisconsin next

:06:47. > :06:52.Tuesday, where he is behind Ted Cruz. But he still has the most

:06:53. > :06:56.number of delegates so far. He is still the front runner on the

:06:57. > :07:01.Republican race. On the Democrat side, where we have not spoken as

:07:02. > :07:05.much, Donald Trump seems to suck up the oxygen in the race, Hillary

:07:06. > :07:09.Clinton is getting a tough run from Bernie Saunders. He is staying in

:07:10. > :07:17.the race longer that Hillary Clinton thought. But she mainly looks like

:07:18. > :07:26.becoming the nom flee for the Democrat. So Clintan more likely to

:07:27. > :07:31.be the Democrat nominee, than Donald Trump, the Republican nominee. It is

:07:32. > :07:36.an interesting race. Katty Kay, thank you very much.

:07:37. > :07:43.Speaking to Outside Source about that US presidential election.

:07:44. > :07:45.Once again, Qatar is facing accusations of worker abuse leading

:07:46. > :07:48.The country had previously been accused of treating

:07:49. > :07:51.And Qatar has repeatedly said it's working to improve

:07:52. > :07:56.The new accusation centres around the construction

:07:57. > :07:59.building: the flagship Khalifa International Stadium

:08:00. > :08:07.Amnesty International says forced labour was used in the construction.

:08:08. > :08:24.Yet again Qatari authorities face accusations of human rights abuses

:08:25. > :08:30.in their country. Now World Cup workers are affected. Amnesty

:08:31. > :08:35.International secretly interviewed 230 of them, over allegations that

:08:36. > :08:40.they were paid lower salaries than promised and were forced to work

:08:41. > :08:44.against their will. Forced labour persists as employees had to hand

:08:45. > :08:47.over power to employers, who control when they leave the country or

:08:48. > :08:53.change jobs. The government says a law in December will change that to

:08:54. > :08:57.allow workers to appeal if they are denied an exit permit. But the

:08:58. > :09:03.United Nations watchdog is sceptical, giving Qatar until March

:09:04. > :09:07.2017 to prove that the reforms work or it will launch an official

:09:08. > :09:13.inquiry. So five years after Qatar won the chance to host the Fifa

:09:14. > :09:17.World Cup, why aren't the workers' rights guaranteed in one of the

:09:18. > :09:22.wealthiest countries on earth? If the new leadership of Fifa is

:09:23. > :09:27.watching this for the next six years between now and the World Cup and

:09:28. > :09:34.the end up there in 2022, and the World Cup is built on the back off

:09:35. > :09:38.the exploitation of labourer it will be shameful.

:09:39. > :09:41.Fifa say that they take the allegations seriously and action has

:09:42. > :09:46.been taken. There have been four companies

:09:47. > :09:51.covered. One company has been banned from the project. And they have to

:09:52. > :09:55.make progress on delivering commitments to the standards.

:09:56. > :09:59.Another company has become a benchmark in how to comply with the

:10:00. > :10:04.standards and malters improved significantly.

:10:05. > :10:08.Soon 32,000 more migrants will start work on World Cup projects where

:10:09. > :10:13.right now serious accusations of abuse continue to play out under the

:10:14. > :10:20.eyes of the authorities that promised things would change.

:10:21. > :10:23.It was a defeat that silenced the crowd in Mumbai.

:10:24. > :10:26.West Indies beat the cricket mad nation India, to deny it a chance

:10:27. > :10:28.to go onto the World Twenty Twenty final.

:10:29. > :10:31.India thought Virat Kohli had done enough to power them to victory.

:10:32. > :10:33.It was a defeat the host nation didn't expect -

:10:34. > :10:40.as our correspondent in Mumbai, Sameer Hashmi told me earlier.

:10:41. > :10:46.The build up was huge. From the timing of qualifying to the

:10:47. > :10:50.semi-finals. You saw people anticipating that India would go on

:10:51. > :10:55.and reach the finals. Most people expected that. We went to the

:10:56. > :10:59.stadium earlier in the day. We met many people there. Everyone

:11:00. > :11:04.confident that India would be the winners. As the tournament is

:11:05. > :11:09.happening in India, everyone thought India the favourites to win this as

:11:10. > :11:13.the team have been playing well. After the defeat, the people here

:11:14. > :11:18.were so disappointed that they could not believe India lost. Most thought

:11:19. > :11:21.that they would go on. So a big disappointment for a country that

:11:22. > :11:29.loves cricket so much. Cricket is a religion over here! How

:11:30. > :11:35.would you describe it? Why didn't they win? They are the favourites?

:11:36. > :11:40.They are at home? Well, T20 is a funny game. India got the danger man

:11:41. > :11:45.Gale out in the second over. Everyone thought that they had the

:11:46. > :11:48.match. But there was a strong partnership between Charles and

:11:49. > :11:54.Samuels that built a foundation. And the middle order came to the

:11:55. > :11:58.rescue and they continued. What cost India the match was two wickets.

:11:59. > :12:03.Both time as no ball so they could not claim the wicket. That was

:12:04. > :12:04.expensive for India. I would say that was the turning point.

:12:05. > :12:06.I would say that was the turning point.

:12:07. > :12:09.Five players from the United States women's football team have filed

:12:10. > :12:10.a federal complaint alleging unequal pay.

:12:11. > :12:15.The World and Olympic champion squad members are accusing US Soccer

:12:16. > :12:20.of wage discrimination, insisting they should be paid

:12:21. > :12:24.They say they are not not being treated equally with men.

:12:25. > :12:27.Let's get more from from Kate Dailey, who has been

:12:28. > :12:39.Good to have you with us, Kate. Talk us through some of the issues that

:12:40. > :12:42.the women players say are unequal? They have filed a suit with the

:12:43. > :12:47.equal employment and opportunity community in the US that looks into

:12:48. > :12:51.whether or not men and women are paid the same amount for the same

:12:52. > :12:56.work. What the women are saying is not only are they not paid the same

:12:57. > :12:59.amount for the same work but are paid less for better work. The

:13:00. > :13:04.women's television ratings for the World Cup broke records. The women's

:13:05. > :13:09.teams won championships, World Cups, the men have not done so well. The

:13:10. > :13:15.women are bringing in a lot more money for the 2017 year that they

:13:16. > :13:21.$5 million profit while the men $5 million profit while the men

:13:22. > :13:25.operating a $1 million loss. So the women saying doing better, making

:13:26. > :13:31.more money and in some cases a lot more money. In some cases when the

:13:32. > :13:36.men show up to games or friendlies, they are given $5,000 for showing

:13:37. > :13:40.up, the women less than half, and only if they win. So the women are

:13:41. > :13:43.saying that they have been patient. Waiting for the league to do the

:13:44. > :13:48.right thing, now they are not going to wait. It is not just about the

:13:49. > :13:51.money but many other issues in how women are treated. In the World Cup

:13:52. > :13:57.last year, there were issues about whether or not women would play on

:13:58. > :14:01.turf. It means more injuries, poorer ball play. So these women have said,

:14:02. > :14:08.enough is enough. We are tired of waiting, that they want the league

:14:09. > :14:12.to step up and do the right thing. Really trillioning, Kate thank you

:14:13. > :14:27.very much. We'll keep an eye on that story.

:14:28. > :14:36.Later we bring you the report on Palmyra to the programme.

:14:37. > :14:39.Ronnie Corbett, a comic legend and one half of the Two Ronnies

:14:40. > :14:41.double act, has died at the age of 85.

:14:42. > :14:44.He passed away in hospital surrounded by his family.

:14:45. > :14:46.I look down on him because I am upper-class.

:14:47. > :14:48.I look up to him because he is upper-class.

:14:49. > :14:51.But I look down on him because he is lower class.

:14:52. > :15:01.By the time he recorded that famous sketch with

:15:02. > :15:03.John Cleese and Ronnie Barker, Ronnie Corbett was already

:15:04. > :15:12.But it was the Two Ronnies with Ronnie Barker

:15:13. > :15:22.They brought genial comedy into peoples' homes.

:15:23. > :15:25.Chosen subject is to answer the question before.

:15:26. > :15:53.When they reunited for a Royal Variety Show

:15:54. > :16:05.years later it was clear how much they had been laughed.

:16:06. > :16:08.years later it was clear how much they had been loved.

:16:09. > :16:15.We always say a one-off, and he certainly was a one-off

:16:16. > :16:19.His particular contribution were the monologues he delivered

:16:20. > :16:22.from an easy chair, often including jokes about his own height.

:16:23. > :16:28.The younger generation of comics like Harry Enfield viewed him

:16:29. > :16:45.And many grew up watching one of Britain's's most loved comedy

:16:46. > :16:53.For the last time, it is good night from me...

:16:54. > :17:13.This is Outside Source live from the BBC newsroom.

:17:14. > :17:16.Our lead story is: At least 18 are dead after a flyover collapsed

:17:17. > :17:32.Dozens more people are thought to be trapped under the rubble.

:17:33. > :17:37.The president of Afghanistan, Ashraf Ghani has told the BBC he has

:17:38. > :17:38.no sympathy for the thousands of people trying

:17:39. > :17:42.Afghans are the second largest group of migrants trying

:17:43. > :17:47.This graph shows the number of asylum applications by country

:17:48. > :17:58.Yalda Hakim has been speaking to the Afghan president.

:17:59. > :18:07.They began by talking about the country's future.

:18:08. > :18:14.We will survive. We survived in 2015. 2015 was a test of you are

:18:15. > :18:22.vial. Is survival what Afghanistan is

:18:23. > :18:27.measured again? No. No. It is measured vis-a-vis Syria,

:18:28. > :18:32.vis-a-vis... The bar, unfortunately, has been lowered but that is not the

:18:33. > :18:39.bar Which? Our people measure themselves. Why is there a mass

:18:40. > :18:43.exodus in this country? As I explained, we are a poor society.

:18:44. > :18:50.This is not the first time these people have moved. We have to make a

:18:51. > :18:55.commitment. 549 young men and women graduated from the military academy.

:18:56. > :19:01.They are making a commitment to defend this country. Others on whom

:19:02. > :19:05.we have spent... Hundreds of millions of dollars want to leave

:19:06. > :19:10.under the slightest pressure. It is not the slightest pressure,

:19:11. > :19:15.though, the last year has seen the worst form of violence.

:19:16. > :19:18.Is it better elsewhere? Well they seem to think so. They are making

:19:19. > :19:27.that very dangerous journey. Please. The journey is made

:19:28. > :19:30.voluntarily. They are paying $10,000, $30,000. They are

:19:31. > :19:34.impoverishing their families in order to make the journey as that

:19:35. > :19:39.journey was based on false assumptions. But they have made a

:19:40. > :19:45.choice to leave. When they leave they break the social contract. This

:19:46. > :19:50.needs to be understood. Theirs have an existential choice. Countries

:19:51. > :19:54.don't survive by their best attempting to flee. So I have no

:19:55. > :19:59.sympathy. My goal is to make sure that my

:20:00. > :20:07.people live with dignity, with hope and with determination.

:20:08. > :20:10.Is this a country at war? Yes. It's a country that is become the

:20:11. > :20:16.platform for a regional and global war.

:20:17. > :20:25.We are at war but we are not at Civil War. The war between our

:20:26. > :20:30.fronts is a very small component of regional and global. Al-Qaeda,

:20:31. > :20:40.unfortunately, has gone deep and dark but it is fully alive. While

:20:41. > :20:43.Daesh captures the news we need to focus, otherwise, God forbid we will

:20:44. > :20:47.have another surprise. How is it that the Taliban are

:20:48. > :20:54.stronger than ever today in Afghanistan? Because their regional

:20:55. > :20:59.support work is in tact. So is Pakistan playing a double

:21:00. > :21:02.game? It is for others to react. Do you think that they are playing a

:21:03. > :21:06.double game. We engage with Pakistan. We defined

:21:07. > :21:12.the problem. I have said from the time of my visit last year to

:21:13. > :21:17.Pakistan, that it is an endeclared war between us. It is an undeclared

:21:18. > :21:23.state of hostility between us, we need to end it. We have made

:21:24. > :21:28.significant progress on paper to the quadry lateral process, now we need

:21:29. > :21:32.to see whether there is going to be a clearance to those commitments or

:21:33. > :21:35.whether what you call a double game is being played.

:21:36. > :21:39.On Monday we brought you the news that the Syrian town of Palmyra had

:21:40. > :21:42.been retaken by the Syrian army, after 10 months of occupation

:21:43. > :21:49.The area is home to many historically important

:21:50. > :21:54.Islamic State made headlines around the world

:21:55. > :21:56.by destroying many of the best known.

:21:57. > :22:00.Assaf Abboud from BBC Arabic was one of the first journalists

:22:01. > :23:08.Last month, a gorilla was born at Bristol Zoo in England.

:23:09. > :23:10.What was special about her delivery was that it happened

:23:11. > :23:14.Staff say she's doing well, and has even been given

:23:15. > :23:18.The Zoo said we could take our cameras to film her,

:23:19. > :23:24.Lindsey looks like any proud mum, carrying a newborn through the park.

:23:25. > :23:29.But look closely in her sling, this is a seven-week-old baby

:23:30. > :23:48.It was on a Friday last month that she was born in a rare

:23:49. > :23:50.Caesarean operation when her mother became unwell.

:23:51. > :23:53.Until Mum has fully recovered, Afia needs to be hand reared

:23:54. > :23:56.by staff at Bristol Zoo.

:23:57. > :23:59.Which even involves taking her home with them at night.

:24:00. > :24:01.Lindsey told me that she sleeps with Afia downstairs

:24:02. > :24:09.while her husband and two human children sleep upstairs.

:24:10. > :24:12.I get my bed set up for the evening, I might watch a bit of telly

:24:13. > :24:16.and have a cup of tea, but I'm always aware of feeds

:24:17. > :24:18.and trying to get myself some sleep in between them.

:24:19. > :24:21.Just like you are when you have young babies at home.

:24:22. > :24:23.You are snatching sleep where you can.

:24:24. > :24:28.My husband jokes, we could have a third one,

:24:29. > :24:36.Zookeepers say the priority is to get Afia back with her gorilla

:24:37. > :24:39.family where the public can see her, but it will take time,

:24:40. > :24:42.first she has to get to know her relatives like Dad,

:24:43. > :24:45.Jock, and if her real mum can't bring her up then Auntie Remina

:24:46. > :24:47.is said to be showing maternal interest.

:24:48. > :24:51.In the meantime, though, she has got Lindsey.

:24:52. > :25:01.Outside Source is back with you on Monday, I do hope you can join us

:25:02. > :25:10.then but for me and the team in London, goodbye.