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:00:14. > :00:18.Welcome back to Outside Source. Let's look at some of the main

:00:19. > :00:22.stories here. Result's president Dilma Rousseff has been suspended

:00:23. > :00:24.and will now be put on trial in the Senate. She has described the whole

:00:25. > :00:28.matter as a coup. Donald Trump is in the headlines

:00:29. > :00:32.again. He needs more support from the Republican leadership than he is

:00:33. > :00:36.getting at the moment. Today, you met Paul Ryan, the party bat most

:00:37. > :00:38.senior member. This is what he said afterwards.

:00:39. > :00:42.I do believe that we are now planting the seeds to get ourselves

:00:43. > :00:46.unified, to bridge the gaps and differences.

:00:47. > :00:51.We are also going to talk about Brazil, again, not with reference to

:00:52. > :00:54.the political crisis. This is to do with the Rio Olympic Games. An

:00:55. > :00:58.American health expert is arguing that because of the Zika virus, they

:00:59. > :01:03.should be cancelled. We will speak to him live in 15 minutes. And sport

:01:04. > :01:06.is coming up in a couple of minutes. We will discuss whether the very

:01:07. > :01:10.fierce connection between money and success in the Premier League has

:01:11. > :01:27.perhaps been loosened a little this season.

:01:28. > :01:32.A couple of minutes ago, I said that we were expecting the new interim

:01:33. > :01:38.president of Brazil to start speaking. Let's see what is coming

:01:39. > :01:50.in on the live feed now. There he is. Let's bring up the sound.

:01:51. > :02:06.TRANSLATION: We invite to sign the term of office and take their

:02:07. > :02:40.places, Mr Padilla, Minister for the Cabinet Office.

:02:41. > :02:49.APPLAUSE So, this is Michel Temer, until very

:02:50. > :02:52.recently, the vice president. He had been an ally of Dilma

:02:53. > :02:56.Rousseff. I don't think we would describe him that way any more. This

:02:57. > :03:01.is the first time that Brazilians are going to get to hear him lay out

:03:02. > :03:05.in some detail what he intends to do while they lead the country, and as

:03:06. > :03:13.we heard earlier from our reporter in Sao Paulo, one of his problems

:03:14. > :03:15.won't be outlining his policies, it will be actually getting them

:03:16. > :03:22.through and putting them into action, because while he has some

:03:23. > :03:26.support, and certainly, there are people within Brazilian politics who

:03:27. > :03:32.wanted Dilma Rousseff to go, evidently, and here he is. Signing

:03:33. > :03:36.what I assume is an important document, perhaps furthering his

:03:37. > :03:40.position as interim president. Certainly, lots of people are

:03:41. > :03:45.welcoming his arrival into power, but not everyone is, and so, it will

:03:46. > :03:49.be difficult for him to get things done. The Senate has 180 days to

:03:50. > :03:52.conduct a trial of Dilma Rousseff and decide whether she should be

:03:53. > :03:55.permanently removed from office, so there is a possibility that she

:03:56. > :04:01.could come back into power at some point. In which case, Michel Temer

:04:02. > :04:08.would serve out the remainder of her term if she were found guilty to the

:04:09. > :04:12.end of December 20 18. So he could lead Brazil for a significant period

:04:13. > :04:16.of time. But there is going to be an issue of legitimacy, as Camilla was

:04:17. > :04:20.explaining. This is not a man who stood for the highest office. He

:04:21. > :04:26.hasn't got the highest profile in Brazil. There will be questions

:04:27. > :04:30.about whether Brazilians will accept this man, Michel Temer, as their

:04:31. > :04:34.leader all the way to the end of 2018. That is getting ahead of

:04:35. > :04:39.ourselves. First, you must take power well Dilma Rousseff is tried

:04:40. > :04:43.in the Senate, and that will be something that will take months, not

:04:44. > :04:46.years. -- he must take power. We have ended up in this situation

:04:47. > :04:52.because of an extraordinary debate in the Brazilian Senate. This time

:04:53. > :04:55.yesterday, I showed you live feeds from the Senate. The debate had been

:04:56. > :04:59.going on for hours, continuing through our programme. I went home,

:05:00. > :05:03.looked at it on television, went to bed and got up the next morning, and

:05:04. > :05:07.the debate was still going on. It took 20 hours, and what was about

:05:08. > :05:12.that was, everyone knew what the outcome would be. It was widely

:05:13. > :05:17.expected the Brazilian Senate would vote to begin impeachment

:05:18. > :05:22.proceedings, and so it did. Despite the fact he is close to a variety of

:05:23. > :05:25.microphones, no sign the new interim president is actually going to begin

:05:26. > :05:31.talking, so we will keep an eye on that live feed, and when he starts

:05:32. > :05:33.talking, we will show that to you on Outside Source.

:05:34. > :05:39.In the meantime, let's into a big event in London today, which we have

:05:40. > :05:43.been building up to all week. A major international conference on

:05:44. > :05:47.corruption which started today. One major announcement is that these

:05:48. > :05:52.countries, Kenya, Nigeria and Afghanistan, as well as the

:05:53. > :05:55.Netherlands, France and the UK are all agreeing to publish details

:05:56. > :05:59.about who really benefits from the companies which operate in their

:06:00. > :06:02.territory. On top of those measures, we will also have a new

:06:03. > :06:08.anti-corruption coordination centre, based in London, which will in

:06:09. > :06:11.theory help governments exchange information on these issues, and

:06:12. > :06:14.will particularly focus on the recovery of stolen assets.

:06:15. > :06:20.Campaigners say, hold on, there are already a lot of those hidden in the

:06:21. > :06:23.UK, and certainly, the UK Government has acknowledged that to some

:06:24. > :06:31.degree, saying, foreign companies are owning around 100,000 properties

:06:32. > :06:35.across the UK, but almost half of those are in London. It should say

:06:36. > :06:39.it is not clear how many of those are links to corruption. To

:06:40. > :06:44.understand more about these announcements and which our most

:06:45. > :06:48.significant, I talked to Richard Galpin, who is covering the

:06:49. > :06:53.conference. This agreement that six countries so far have agreed to

:06:54. > :06:55.establish public registers of all the companies they have registered

:06:56. > :07:00.on their territory, I think that is a very significant step forward,

:07:01. > :07:05.because of course, the fact that they are hidden, as they are equally

:07:06. > :07:09.in this country at the moment, means of course that corrupt officials,

:07:10. > :07:12.criminals, can hide money in those companies, and move it around

:07:13. > :07:16.without being able to be traced and court.

:07:17. > :07:21.So I think that is a step forward. A note of caution, it is six

:07:22. > :07:25.countries, and there are about 48 countries attending the summit, so

:07:26. > :07:29.there is still a long way to go. There is also the key issue of the

:07:30. > :07:33.tax havens, like the British Virgin Islands, which are British Overseas

:07:34. > :07:36.Territories. There has been a lot of focus on them, and opening up the

:07:37. > :07:42.registers there. We know the owners of the companies they are, but so

:07:43. > :07:45.far, they have refused, especially in the British Virgin Islands, to

:07:46. > :07:49.have public registers of the owners of companies. They say they will

:07:50. > :07:52.pass information on to different countries, but only to law

:07:53. > :07:56.enforcement agencies and tax agencies of the countries.

:07:57. > :07:59.I would like to talk more about London in particular. Our view is

:08:00. > :08:04.all around the world will be interested to hear about how

:08:05. > :08:06.significant this city has become. Was that issue particularly

:08:07. > :08:11.addressed? Yes, I think to the extent that

:08:12. > :08:15.Prime Minister David Cameron has announced that all foreign companies

:08:16. > :08:20.wanting to invest in property in this country will have to do reveal

:08:21. > :08:27.the identities of the owners of companies, because you are getting

:08:28. > :08:30.quite a lot coming from the tax havens, buying properties. As you

:08:31. > :08:33.say, a huge amount of money, a huge number of properties being bought in

:08:34. > :08:36.this country, and clearly, the authorities need to know who the

:08:37. > :08:40.owners of those companies are so that they can screen out any corrupt

:08:41. > :08:44.money, and certainly, anti-corruption campaigners are

:08:45. > :08:49.saying that tens of billions, perhaps more than that, slosh is

:08:50. > :08:53.through Britain, and in particular through London, every year, so it is

:08:54. > :08:56.a significant amount of money. Thank you to Richard for that. Next,

:08:57. > :09:03.time for sport. Let's get into the connection

:09:04. > :09:07.between money and success in English football over the last 20 years.

:09:08. > :09:09.With the Premier League, that connection has looked very, very

:09:10. > :09:12.close indeed, but actually, the Premier League is offering is

:09:13. > :09:15.something different this season. There is one round of matches to go,

:09:16. > :09:19.but we already know who has won, and which three teams are going down.

:09:20. > :09:24.This all played out last night during our programme. Sunderland

:09:25. > :09:27.beat Everton 3-0, keeping Sunderland up and making it inevitable that

:09:28. > :09:30.Roberto Martinez will be sacked by Everton. That has come to pass

:09:31. > :09:40.today. It also means the league table doesn't make great reading for

:09:41. > :09:44.Aston Villa, Norwich or Newcastle fans. All three are definitely down,

:09:45. > :09:46.and you don't need me to tell you that Leicester City won the

:09:47. > :09:50.championship. They were almost relegated last season, and they are

:09:51. > :09:54.champions now. They won with a team with about ?23 million, which is a

:09:55. > :10:00.lot, lot less than the value of, say, Newcastle's team. Earlier, the

:10:01. > :10:06.Daily Telegraph said that Newcastle are the most expensive Premier

:10:07. > :10:11.League flops ever. Let's bring in Conor McNamara, one of the BBC's

:10:12. > :10:19.football commentators and analysts. That is Richard! I want to see

:10:20. > :10:22.Connor. Good to see you. It is difficult to draw conclusions from

:10:23. > :10:25.one season, but doesn't it be, particularly in the case of

:10:26. > :10:30.Newcastle, that you can't be solved the problem by throwing money at it?

:10:31. > :10:35.No, this is a season in which, in many regards, the rule book has been

:10:36. > :10:37.ripped up and thrown out of the window. Leicester City have spent a

:10:38. > :10:40.paltry amount and managed to get success, and drawn else must

:10:41. > :10:43.replicate that. Where we have traditionally seen owners and

:10:44. > :10:45.managers to wring money into football clubs is when they fear

:10:46. > :10:49.relegation, and this season more than ever, there is more money in

:10:50. > :10:52.the TV pot coming in the summer than ever before. This is the one year

:10:53. > :10:55.you really don't want to get relegated, and a loss of the foreign

:10:56. > :11:00.owners, and American owners who have come in, they pump money in,

:11:01. > :11:04.expecting to see dividends. You see. The and in places like Newcastle,

:11:05. > :11:08.50,000 people for every home game, but what a lot of the owners don't

:11:09. > :11:13.realise is, relegation comes in. Take Newcastle United. Miss

:11:14. > :11:17.performing massively on the football pitch, relegated this season with

:11:18. > :11:21.one game to go. In terms of their financial numbers, they have

:11:22. > :11:25.actually made money this season. We know their owner Mike Ashley is a

:11:26. > :11:28.very successful businessman, in sports and leisure wear retail, and

:11:29. > :11:32.he makes a lot of money with this, even though Newcastle have gone

:11:33. > :11:35.down. Remarkably, in the last year, they have actually made money. The

:11:36. > :11:38.problem is going forward, they will be getting this new Premier League

:11:39. > :11:43.payment, and that is how they risk losing more money as time goes on.

:11:44. > :11:48.So even with this season, the big clubs were rich, still are rich, but

:11:49. > :11:52.the mid-table teams, the lower teams, have actually got more money

:11:53. > :11:56.to spend and can bring in higher quality players and perhaps they

:11:57. > :12:00.could have done 5-10 years ago? Yes, there is a very high cache a

:12:01. > :12:04.lot of player, the Leonel Messis, the Cristiano Ronaldos, who,

:12:05. > :12:11.regardless of how much money you have, you are unable to attract to

:12:12. > :12:13.any Premier League team. Even the big names, Manchester United,

:12:14. > :12:16.Chelsea, or Manchester City, will struggle to attract those players.

:12:17. > :12:21.So top clubs in England than have to start with their huge bank balances

:12:22. > :12:24.and start bidding for the tear down from that, and you end up getting

:12:25. > :12:29.guys like Angel di Maria, a big-name real Madrid, but not a star in a

:12:30. > :12:32.team. Manchester United played 70 million for him. Anthony Martial was

:12:33. > :12:36.virtually unknown, and a huge amount of money spent on him as well. So

:12:37. > :12:43.even though they can't get the top calibre of players, because they

:12:44. > :12:46.have Big Bang balances, -- big bank balances, those transfers will go

:12:47. > :12:50.up. There is an old saying in football, how do you become a

:12:51. > :12:54.millionaire? And the answer is, you be a billionaire and buy a football

:12:55. > :12:57.club! This is nothing new in terms of how money can vanish, with these

:12:58. > :13:00.astronomical fees, regardless of what level you are right.

:13:01. > :13:05.Before you go, we know who the champion is and who is going down.

:13:06. > :13:08.One thing that is to be sorted is who is getting the Champions League

:13:09. > :13:14.fourth-place. This ties in with our conversation. If you years ago, that

:13:15. > :13:18.money would have guaranteed a top four place for Manchester City.

:13:19. > :13:22.These days, not so? Yes, very much a rivalry between

:13:23. > :13:24.Manchester City, the new money, but Manchester United have found

:13:25. > :13:28.themselves a bit down in the doldrums in terms of their

:13:29. > :13:30.performance, and going back to financial clout, Manchester United

:13:31. > :13:33.are making as much money as ever. This is the very strange thing in

:13:34. > :13:36.football. You have season tickets for next year which have already

:13:37. > :13:44.been very much subscribed for. These two clubs' business plan is geared

:13:45. > :13:48.up to being in the Champions League. They get a lot of money through

:13:49. > :13:51.other revenue streams, the Premier League, but it is the prestige of

:13:52. > :13:54.being in the Champions League, being able to attract big-name players

:13:55. > :13:57.from everywhere and work elsewhere, and being able to attract fans from

:13:58. > :14:01.around the world. If you want to be in the big players

:14:02. > :14:05.of English football, you need to be in the Champions League. Only one of

:14:06. > :14:08.Manchester City or Manchester united will be next season, and we will

:14:09. > :14:11.find out. Manchester City just need a draw at Swansea and they will be

:14:12. > :14:17.sure that top four place. Thank you very much. Earlier, I saw

:14:18. > :14:21.the flash up on the screen. We will not have time to cover it because of

:14:22. > :14:28.the news from Brazil, but go on to the BBC website and you can see a

:14:29. > :14:31.big scoop from Dan Rowan, on the anti-dumping body for work that let

:14:32. > :14:36.it finding Kenya still not complying with its regulations. -- anted to be

:14:37. > :14:39.body. This is significant, and could see Kenyan athletes not going to

:14:40. > :14:42.Rio. And another story posted online that

:14:43. > :14:46.I wanted to highlight. Leicester City, who we have just been talking

:14:47. > :14:49.about, when the title in the Premier League, but they're right back Danny

:14:50. > :14:54.Simpson is not going to be going into celebrations. He has been

:14:55. > :14:57.ordered to serve a curfew after a conviction for assaulting his

:14:58. > :15:01.ex-girlfriend. Simpson had been ordered to do community service, but

:15:02. > :15:04.media intrusion has not made that possible, so the judge rejected a

:15:05. > :15:09.fine as an idea, saying that would not be a sufficient punishment.

:15:10. > :15:16.Not long ago, the Olympic Games was given to Rio. They will take place

:15:17. > :15:20.in the city in a few months' time. We will have a live interview in a

:15:21. > :15:21.moment with an American expert who says they should be cancelled

:15:22. > :15:32.because of the Zika virus. The NHS in England has recorded its

:15:33. > :15:36.worst performance figures since records began. Figures for March

:15:37. > :15:40.showed a failure to achieve targets in several areas, including

:15:41. > :15:45.ambulance response times, emergency call handling, and accident and

:15:46. > :15:49.emergency waiting times. Nearly 23 million people visited A in the 12

:15:50. > :15:54.months to March 2016. That was a rise of more than 500,000 from the

:15:55. > :15:57.previous year. NHS England says the junior doctors' dispute had started

:15:58. > :16:02.having an impact, with more patients than ever waiting more than 18 weeks

:16:03. > :16:06.for operations such as knee and hip replacements. Our health editor Hugh

:16:07. > :16:12.Pearman can give us full details on the story.

:16:13. > :16:15.Usually, the pressure on hospitals eases off in the spring, but not

:16:16. > :16:18.this time. The performance figures for March for A units will even

:16:19. > :16:22.worse than it was during the winter months. The key number published

:16:23. > :16:27.today was the proportion of patients seen or assessed within four hours

:16:28. > :16:36.at Accident and Emergency, and that was 87.3% across England, the worst

:16:37. > :16:39.since records began in 2004. Behind Scotland's bigger, but slightly

:16:40. > :16:43.ahead of Wales and Northern Ireland. One of the reasons for that was the

:16:44. > :16:49.sheer numbers of patients. The increase in demand, with more than 2

:16:50. > :16:54.million patients going to A units in England, a record three single

:16:55. > :17:00.month. That was up 7.5% on March 2015. -- a record for a single

:17:01. > :17:05.month. As to why that pressure is building up, there are a number of

:17:06. > :17:09.theories. GPs being overrun, and patients feeling they must go to A

:17:10. > :17:12.and stared. Problems and social care meaning some patients are in

:17:13. > :17:17.hospital when they shouldn't be. Chris Hobson of Nhs Providers, who

:17:18. > :17:20.represents hospitals and leading providers, had this expedition.

:17:21. > :17:24.Our chief executives are saying this is really now getting difficult, the

:17:25. > :17:28.publisher gets more ill and old, we're finding more people come along

:17:29. > :17:33.to A because they can't get GP appointments, people are finding

:17:34. > :17:35.social care pressures are preventing discharges, so our members are

:17:36. > :17:38.saying this is getting difficult. The government argues that in the

:17:39. > :17:43.circumstances, the NHS coped reasonably well, given this much

:17:44. > :17:48.higher patient demand. But Labour says, with other targets missed,

:17:49. > :17:52.including cancer waiting times, and referral to treatment by a

:17:53. > :17:54.consultant, you add it all up, the NHS does seem to be now in constant

:17:55. > :18:10.crisis. This is Outside Source, live from

:18:11. > :18:14.the BBC newsroom. Our lead story still comes from Brazil, where

:18:15. > :18:16.President Dilma Rousseff has been suspended and impeachment

:18:17. > :18:20.proceedings against her will begin. She has called the whole thing a

:18:21. > :18:26.coup. Let's go back to Brazil, because the

:18:27. > :18:31.interim president is beginning to speak, I think. Let's see the live

:18:32. > :18:47.feed. TRANSLATION: To have a ceremony that

:18:48. > :18:56.is very serious and discreet. Due to the moment we are experiencing

:18:57. > :19:01.today, however, I can see an enthusiasm, all my colleagues,

:19:02. > :19:11.parliamentarians, with my colleagues' governors, and I am

:19:12. > :19:21.deeply sure with conviction that this enthusiasm comes from our

:19:22. > :19:37.relationship, working together for so many years. At a first instance,

:19:38. > :19:46.I wasn't planning to say any words right now, but in the conversations

:19:47. > :19:54.I have had in the last two days, I realised that it was very important

:19:55. > :20:04.to say a few words. With my first words to the Brazilian people, is to

:20:05. > :20:12.say trust in me. The word "Trust" means trusting in our values, in the

:20:13. > :20:23.values of our people, the vitality of our democracy. You may trust in

:20:24. > :20:31.our ability to recover the economy, in the potential of our country, in

:20:32. > :20:39.the country's institutions, both social and political, and together,

:20:40. > :20:46.we will be able to face these challenges, because it is a

:20:47. > :20:55.difficult moment, and I reiterate, as I have been saying, that it is

:20:56. > :21:11.urgent to pacify the nation and unify Brazil. It is urgent to form a

:21:12. > :21:15.government that will save the nation. Political parties, leaders,

:21:16. > :21:26.and organised movements, and the leaders of Brazil, you must

:21:27. > :21:34.collaborate in order to save the country from serious crisis.

:21:35. > :21:39.Dialogue is the first step to face the challenges in order to take

:21:40. > :21:49.steps forward and begin to grow again. Nobody, absolutely nobody,

:21:50. > :22:00.alone is able to provide all the necessary reforms, but together, the

:22:01. > :22:13.government, parliament and the society together, we will find

:22:14. > :22:20.solutions. I am absolutely sure we need to rescue credibility for

:22:21. > :22:29.Brazil, internally and externally. It is a necessary factor for

:22:30. > :22:41.business leaders, service leaders, from agribusiness and workers from

:22:42. > :22:53.all productive sectors to have enthusiasm, and few safe with

:22:54. > :22:58.investments. We must encourage significantly PPPs, because these

:22:59. > :23:06.two can generate jobs for our country. -- these as well. We are

:23:07. > :23:11.aware that the state isn't able to perform all functions by its self.

:23:12. > :23:16.-- itself. We knew employers on one hand, and workers on one hand.

:23:17. > :23:28.Together, they will create prosperity. To the state, it is

:23:29. > :23:39.important to provide safety, health, education. All important sectors and

:23:40. > :23:42.services for society. They should not leave the public sphere.

:23:43. > :23:51.Everything else must be shared with private initiative we understand as

:23:52. > :24:02.joint actions between workers and employers together. Employment, we

:24:03. > :24:09.are aware, is fundamental for all Brazilians, but the citizen can only

:24:10. > :24:23.have a job if industries, services, are performing well. On the other

:24:24. > :24:30.hand, a project that can ensure jobs demands the consolidation of social

:24:31. > :24:39.projects. We are all aware that Brazil is unfortunately still an old

:24:40. > :24:46.country, therefore, I reiterate and I highlight here that we must

:24:47. > :24:54.maintain social programmes -- a poor country. The family then fit

:24:55. > :25:00.programme, the University programme, My House, My Life, and all others.

:25:01. > :25:07.They are very successful, and therefore, we will expand them and

:25:08. > :25:14.moreover, we need to remove a bad habit in Brazil when we have a new

:25:15. > :25:22.government. We must remove what has been done. On the contrary, one must

:25:23. > :25:28.celebrate achievement, successful achievements, expand them, and

:25:29. > :25:33.initiate new and useful programmes for the country.

:25:34. > :25:38.This is Brazil's new interim president, Michel Temer, making his

:25:39. > :25:43.first address since taking up the leadership of the country. He has

:25:44. > :25:47.told Brazilians, trust me, trust in the vitality of our democracy, trust

:25:48. > :25:54.in our institutions. He says Brazil needs to rescue its credibility.

:25:55. > :25:58.Thank you very much for watching today's Outside Source. There is

:25:59. > :26:02.full coverage of what is happening in Brazil on the BBC News app. We

:26:03. > :26:10.will speak to you next week. Goodbye.

:26:11. > :26:11.Good evening. It is that time of day where we look further