:00:11. > :00:16.Hello, I'm Ros Atkins, this is Outside Source.
:00:17. > :00:22.We're live in Edinburgh with three days to go until the UK votes
:00:23. > :00:24.in a referendum over whether it wants to be in -
:00:25. > :00:42.Campaigning has resumed after the death of Jo Cox. Today Parliament
:00:43. > :00:54.was recalled. She spoke truth to power. Nigel Farage is the leader of
:00:55. > :00:58.Ukip and a significant figure in the Leave campaign. He has criticised
:00:59. > :01:07.Prime Minister David Cameron for politicising the death of Jo Cox.
:01:08. > :01:11.They are using these faults circumstances to say that the
:01:12. > :01:19.motives of this deranged individual are similar to that of perhaps half
:01:20. > :01:22.the country who want to leave the EU.
:01:23. > :01:25.We'll look at what a vote to leave would mean in Scotland -
:01:26. > :01:37.especially if the majority of people here want to remain.
:01:38. > :01:41.We will also be live in Washington, DC because Donald Trump has sacked
:01:42. > :01:57.his campaign manager. Welcome to Outside Source
:01:58. > :02:12.live from Edinburgh. We are towards the end of a blast of
:02:13. > :02:16.the summer 's day that there is still light because this is one of
:02:17. > :02:19.the longest days of the year and in the next hour we will be
:02:20. > :02:24.concentrating on three of the nations inside the UK. Northern
:02:25. > :02:32.Ireland, Wales, and in particular Scotland. We have highlighted the
:02:33. > :02:36.centre of Edinburgh. That's where I am talking to you from. All day long
:02:37. > :02:40.the street has been bustling with tourists and locals going about
:02:41. > :02:44.their work. Most of the Judas will not be voting in the referendum but
:02:45. > :02:55.most people who call Edinburgh home certainly will be. -- most of the
:02:56. > :03:00.tourists will not be voting in the referendum.
:03:01. > :03:06.To put this in the context of the UK the Scottish electorate makes up 8%
:03:07. > :03:11.of the UK electorate. So which way it goes will have an impact on the
:03:12. > :03:16.outcome. But it could be about more than just numbers. Let us speak now
:03:17. > :03:27.with a correspondent from The Times newspaper. For the outside world is
:03:28. > :03:34.looking in, most people today have not mentioned it. The issue is
:03:35. > :03:39.twofold. We had elections for the devolved Government recently which
:03:40. > :03:42.took up a lot of attention. And we had the Scottish Independence
:03:43. > :03:46.Referendum two years ago and that hangs over everything in Scotland
:03:47. > :03:53.and preoccupies people to the extent that the EU referendum has not done.
:03:54. > :03:58.What is driving how people vote? There is a strong message from
:03:59. > :04:03.Nicola Sturgeon to vote to remain in the EU and she has the biggest
:04:04. > :04:07.proportion of supporters in Scotland so that is driving at Remain vote.
:04:08. > :04:18.We will be talking again later. Thank you.
:04:19. > :04:22.More on what is happening in a moment. We must talk about what has
:04:23. > :04:27.been happening in Westminster today because Parliament was recalled to
:04:28. > :04:36.pay tribute to Jo Cox who was killed on Thursday. She was a member of the
:04:37. > :04:42.Labour Party, the main opposition party. Its leader Jeremy Corbyn said
:04:43. > :04:48.her life had been spent serving and campaigning for others. Prime
:04:49. > :04:53.Minister said she was a loving determined and Progressive MP. Let
:04:54. > :04:59.us also see what Nigel Farage has been saying. He is the leader of the
:05:00. > :05:04.UK Independence Party, a significant voice in the Leave campaign, and he
:05:05. > :05:08.sees the Remain campaign has been implying that there was a link
:05:09. > :05:14.between the death of Jo Cox and how the Leave campaign has conducted
:05:15. > :05:22.itself. Here he is talking to the BBC. The Remain campaign are using
:05:23. > :05:27.these awful circumstances to dry to say that the motives of one deranged
:05:28. > :05:32.and dangerous individual was similar of half the country, perhaps more,
:05:33. > :05:38.we believe we should leave the EU. Who is saying that? Every single
:05:39. > :05:46.one. The Prime Minister, the Chancellor, all talking about the
:05:47. > :05:55.politics of hate. There is a clear implication that somehow a bad
:05:56. > :06:00.atmosphere has been whipped up. One of the stories on the referendum
:06:01. > :06:08.today has been the former chairman of the Conservative Party announcing
:06:09. > :06:11.that she was no longer going to be supporting the Leave campaign and
:06:12. > :06:19.that in part that was related to the tone of the Leave campaign. And this
:06:20. > :06:24.post are played into that decision. It is a Ukip poster released by
:06:25. > :06:30.Nigel Farage which sparked huge controversy in the UK.
:06:31. > :06:34.Those of us at the outset with that clear, moderate,
:06:35. > :06:41.Brexit have over time been taken over by a message which is divisive,
:06:42. > :06:43.inward looking, xenophobic and unfortunately it is creating deep
:06:44. > :07:04.Let us speak to a couple of younger voters who we have been speaking to
:07:05. > :07:09.during the day. Thank you for being with us. What do you make of this
:07:10. > :07:22.discussion around the tone of the campaign, both campaigns? With Nigel
:07:23. > :07:29.Farage's poster, as Michael Gove said, it's made me sick to my
:07:30. > :07:34.stomach. In terms of Grassroots Out, that has been disgusting, but
:07:35. > :07:41.thought Leave has been more positive, we have not been jumping
:07:42. > :07:48.on the death of Jo Cox, which a lot of the Remain campaign have been. I
:07:49. > :07:54.think Leave have been extremely negative in their campaign. Long
:07:55. > :07:57.before producing posters they have been suggesting that millions of
:07:58. > :08:02.Turkish people will come across here. In respect of if that is the
:08:03. > :08:08.case or not quite as big attempting to demonise hundreds of thousands of
:08:09. > :08:12.people that have moved. That is not to say that Remain has not been
:08:13. > :08:18.negative but the Remain campaign has been positive, addressing social
:08:19. > :08:27.justice issues such as climate change. Anybody that says you have
:08:28. > :08:31.made a positive campaign, with the scaremongering of David Cameron and
:08:32. > :08:35.George Osborne saying what is going to occur, that families would spot,
:08:36. > :08:40.that households would evaporate, that is what is wrong with politics
:08:41. > :08:46.now. There are problems with the Leave campaign. We have had certain
:08:47. > :08:52.negative quotes but it is actually a warning that Turkey could come. It
:08:53. > :08:57.is informing the British people but that is a possibility. But that is
:08:58. > :09:05.lies. That is not going to happen. The myth has been dispelled and yet
:09:06. > :09:13.the Leave campaign. In 2013 there was a memo leaked at the British
:09:14. > :09:19.Embassy which said it was their policy. Let me ask you both. You are
:09:20. > :09:23.both interested in getting votes for your site. Do you accept that being
:09:24. > :09:34.negative often delivers faults in a way that being positive buzz not? It
:09:35. > :09:38.might do. It certainly did for Better Together. But that is not the
:09:39. > :09:41.way to campaign. Positive campaigning is the way forward.
:09:42. > :09:49.Bernie Sanders is a good example of that. I am making a positive case
:09:50. > :09:52.for staying in the European Union. Peace and prosperity across the
:09:53. > :09:55.entire continent of Europe and also making sure that we have
:09:56. > :10:00.opportunities. I worry about young people missing out on opportunities
:10:01. > :10:04.to work and study and live abroad. Those opportunities could be taken
:10:05. > :10:07.away and made more competent at. Thank you for talking to us. We will
:10:08. > :10:12.talk again later with a larger group. Now we will talk to a
:10:13. > :10:18.correspondent from Washington because Donald Trump has sacked his
:10:19. > :10:24.campaign manager. Two months ago he was charged with battery. That was
:10:25. > :10:35.related to grabbing a female porter. A senior adviser to Donald Trump has
:10:36. > :10:36.tweeted: Let us get another analysis from our correspondent in
:10:37. > :10:41.Washington. How do we understand what has
:10:42. > :10:46.happened here? On the one hand it is a shift from
:10:47. > :10:51.one kind of campaign to another kind of campaign. The campaign manager
:10:52. > :10:54.was the right man for the primaries. He was sharp elbowed anti-pools
:10:55. > :10:59.Donald Trump from being an outsider to the presidential candidate. He
:11:00. > :11:05.lied on the strategy of letting Donald Trump be himself, let his
:11:06. > :11:10.personality big thing that would draw the crowds and dominate the
:11:11. > :11:15.media. It was a lean, mean team. Now you are shifting to a general
:11:16. > :11:19.election. You are up against a well oiled machine. You have to bring a
:11:20. > :11:23.party behind you, get donors behind you. A different approach was
:11:24. > :11:28.needed. On the one hand that is the shift. The other thing is, by all
:11:29. > :11:34.accounts, the previous manager was quite aggressive in many ways, and
:11:35. > :11:38.there was an internal power struggle going on within the campaign after
:11:39. > :11:42.Donald Trump brought in some other advisers to negotiate this shift.
:11:43. > :11:45.That was creating a lot of dysfunction in the campaign which
:11:46. > :11:49.was distressing Republican officials and that seems as if Donald Trump
:11:50. > :11:56.finally made the decision to let his loyal campaign manager goal. Thank
:11:57. > :12:02.you. More analysis on that should you want it.
:12:03. > :12:06.In a few minutes we will go back to United States, this time to focus on
:12:07. > :12:10.Orlando, because the FBI has been telling us about some of the
:12:11. > :12:11.conversations it had with the man who carried out the nightclub
:12:12. > :12:30.killings. There was a bomb in the city centre.
:12:31. > :12:36.Army bomb experts were examining a suspect van when there was a huge
:12:37. > :12:41.explosion. The population registration act has
:12:42. > :12:47.been abolished, which classified each citizen according to race.
:12:48. > :12:56.Germany's parliament has voted to move the seat of Government to their
:12:57. > :13:08.loan. The decision was greeted with shock in Bonn. The focus of
:13:09. > :13:11.attention today was on the first female cosmonaut. It is a wonderful
:13:12. > :13:31.achievement. We are on the Royal Mile in
:13:32. > :13:37.Edinburgh for today's Outside Source. We will be focusing on the
:13:38. > :13:44.EU referendum in the UK. We are in Edinburgh today, London tomorrow,
:13:45. > :13:51.Tunbridge Wells on weight and stay, Thursday everyone is voting, Friday
:13:52. > :13:56.we will be live from Westminster. The lead story in the BBC newsroom
:13:57. > :14:05.at the moment is that Donald Trump has sacked his campaign manager. It
:14:06. > :14:06.is seen as a shift towards a bigger operation, getting him ready for a
:14:07. > :14:36.general election. The United Nations says the number
:14:37. > :14:39.of people around the world displaced by conflict is now
:14:40. > :14:41.more than 65 million - It's being caused by conflict in
:14:42. > :14:46.places like Syria and Afghanistan. There's a potential
:14:47. > :14:49.new lead in the search Campaigners have released
:14:50. > :14:52.photographs of personal belongings which have washed up
:14:53. > :14:54.on a beach in Madagascar. Relatives are being asked to see
:14:55. > :15:00.if they recognise the items. Just to give you an idea of how
:15:01. > :15:10.Scots may be thinking of voting let us look at one survey. 51% of people
:15:11. > :15:17.saying they want to stay in the EU, 21% staying out and the rest saying
:15:18. > :15:22.they are not sure. Surveys across the UK are much closer. Since last
:15:23. > :15:26.year's general election in the UK we take all opinion polls with a pinch
:15:27. > :15:34.of salt. One of the interesting factors in Scotland is the idea that
:15:35. > :15:37.there may be a second referendum on Scottish independence. Nicola
:15:38. > :15:38.Sturgeon of the Scottish National Party, First Minister in Scotland
:15:39. > :15:51.has this to say. That is counterintuitive because
:15:52. > :15:57.some people think if there is a Brexit then Scotland, the majority
:15:58. > :16:01.of Scots have voted to remain, it would trigger a referendum. This
:16:02. > :16:11.requires context. We have got this report.
:16:12. > :16:14.It had looked as though Scotland's political landscape had been fixed
:16:15. > :16:17.for the foreseeable future when less than two years ago its people
:16:18. > :16:19.rejected independence by a comfortable margin of 10%.
:16:20. > :16:20.The current referendum on EU membership
:16:21. > :16:23.has barely caused the Scottish to break stride or stir their
:16:24. > :16:37.But could the result of the EU vote change all that?
:16:38. > :16:39.We are very clear we want both Scotland and
:16:40. > :16:42.the rest of the UK to remain in the European Union.
:16:43. > :16:45.But in the scenario that the rest of the UK
:16:46. > :16:48.wanted to leave and Scotland wanted to remain that would cause a
:16:49. > :16:50.constitutional issue that would be of serious
:16:51. > :16:51.concern and we would have
:16:52. > :16:52.to think about the consequences of that.
:16:53. > :16:53.The specific consequence that
:16:54. > :16:55.is being threatened as a second referendum.
:16:56. > :16:57.Pro-union politicians insist the chance for independence has
:16:58. > :17:01.The Scottish people of course knew that there would be an
:17:02. > :17:03.EU referendum at that point when they were voting.
:17:04. > :17:06.If they were really that bothered they might have voted
:17:07. > :17:08.But even if there were surging demand
:17:09. > :17:11.for a second referendum, and that is far from certain,
:17:12. > :17:16.Edinburgh would need approval to hold one from London,
:17:17. > :17:18.and for Brussels to make clear it would accept an independent
:17:19. > :17:23.Ultimately though the decision will be a political one.
:17:24. > :17:27.The Scottish National Party won't call
:17:28. > :17:32.another referendum unless they are absolutely sure of winning it
:17:33. > :17:35.but here we enter the realm of uncertainty as no one can say
:17:36. > :17:38.for sure the effect of Brexit on
:17:39. > :17:40.Scottish voters as it's never happened before,
:17:41. > :17:58.outcome of the vote in a few days' time of course, we may never know.
:17:59. > :18:05.I joined by the Scottish correspondent for The Times. It can
:18:06. > :18:11.feel confusing trying to understand the position the SNP on this issue,
:18:12. > :18:16.Europe, then you also consider, it has an ambition to get a second
:18:17. > :18:18.referendum. The position of the First Minister has changed
:18:19. > :18:25.throughout the course of this campaign. The reason she is having
:18:26. > :18:28.to say what she said earlier that people who support independence
:18:29. > :18:32.should support Remain is that her manifesto suggests something
:18:33. > :18:36.different. She seems to say in that manifesto, she did say, if there was
:18:37. > :18:41.a material change in circumstances in the constitution such as Scotland
:18:42. > :18:44.voting to remain in the EU but being dragged out against its will, that
:18:45. > :18:48.could trigger a second Independence Referendum. You can see by her
:18:49. > :18:53.supporters and supporters of independence are confused and she
:18:54. > :18:57.has had to clarify. It is all about the timing. They do not want to call
:18:58. > :19:01.a referendum if they are not certainly can win. They do not. We
:19:02. > :19:05.have talked about triggers for independence referendums. There is
:19:06. > :19:08.one trigger and it is a succession of service coming out strongly in
:19:09. > :19:12.favour of Scots backing independence, that is the only time
:19:13. > :19:16.the SNP and Nicola Sturgeon will call a second Independence
:19:17. > :19:21.Referendum. Two years ago the economy and how Scotland would fear
:19:22. > :19:24.was one of the big issues that drove the debate around Independence
:19:25. > :19:32.Referendum, is it the same note, is that one of the key drivers? Oil
:19:33. > :19:37.prices are down. Three of the main things that we talked about in 2014
:19:38. > :19:42.were the economy and the price of oil and who will Scotland would fear
:19:43. > :19:46.of going it alone. The second was a guarantee of EU membership for
:19:47. > :19:48.Scotland. The third was the currency which Scotland with use, would it
:19:49. > :19:54.retain the pound, would it introduced the usual, would it have
:19:55. > :19:59.its own currency? All of those three factors are more completed than they
:20:00. > :20:02.were two years ago. The oil prices dropped. Public sector finances are
:20:03. > :20:08.not looking as good as they were in 2014. The issue of EU membership
:20:09. > :20:12.obviously because of the referendum on Thursday, what would that mean
:20:13. > :20:16.for Scotland as a continuing state or otherwise? And also the currency.
:20:17. > :20:22.If we are talking about a Scot and which was leaving the UK which is
:20:23. > :20:27.the EU, what currency do we use? I want to ask you about the tone. We
:20:28. > :20:30.have heard sharp exchanges between politicians based in Westminster,
:20:31. > :20:34.the English politicians, but in terms of the debate within
:20:35. > :20:40.Scotland's political sphere has been more civil? In this case it has
:20:41. > :20:43.been. There is a lot more support for Remain up in Scotland. It is
:20:44. > :20:48.less divided. There is less the tree. It has been better. However I
:20:49. > :21:02.would suggest we are still suffering at Hanover from 2014.
:21:03. > :21:13.-- hangover from 2014. It is beyond dispute that more
:21:14. > :21:16.business leaders have come out in favour of staying in the European
:21:17. > :21:18.Union that have come out in support of leading and that has continued
:21:19. > :21:31.today. Sir Richard Branson has said: We have also heard from the chairman
:21:32. > :21:40.of the English Premier League who sees:
:21:41. > :21:44.That as ever there are two views on any issue. When it comes to this EU
:21:45. > :22:01.referendum campaign this if those are areas of debate one
:22:02. > :22:08.thing we can be certain of is that the pound is as strong as it has
:22:09. > :22:13.been for years. Let us bring in our correspondent from New York. Can we
:22:14. > :22:17.say this is connected to how the campaign is going? Absolutely. If
:22:18. > :22:22.you look at the markets, even on this side of the Atlantic we are
:22:23. > :22:25.seeing a lot of volatility. That volatility has to do with the
:22:26. > :22:30.changing direction of the opinion polls. Last week we saw that the
:22:31. > :22:36.opinion polls showed the possibility of a Brexit actually happening. We
:22:37. > :22:44.saw that many investors were fleeing to what we call safety, goals,
:22:45. > :22:48.Government bonds. This week, perhaps Brexit may not happen if you look at
:22:49. > :22:53.the opinion walls and as a result the markets in the United States
:22:54. > :22:58.have just closed and we concede that the markets have shot reading some
:22:59. > :23:02.of the losses that we saw at the end of last week. And the pound is
:23:03. > :23:08.strengthening and the dollar is strengthening. I sense that perhaps
:23:09. > :23:17.on Thursday we may see an outcome that is more favourable to markets
:23:18. > :23:21.and business leaders. Thank you. If you are just joining me this is
:23:22. > :23:27.Outside Source. We have left the warmth of the BBC newsroom and we
:23:28. > :23:32.have come out into what I would not describe as a balmy summers evening,
:23:33. > :23:37.there is a brisk wind, but it has been a beautiful day. We are talking
:23:38. > :23:42.about the EU referendum campaign. The voters on Thursday. We have
:23:43. > :23:45.reported already from Washington and New York. Let us go back to the
:23:46. > :23:53.United States and talk about what the FBI has been saying with
:23:54. > :23:58.relation to that attack on the nightclub in Orlando. 49 people lost
:23:59. > :24:05.their lives on June 12. They all died because of the actions of one
:24:06. > :24:11.man, Omar Mateen. The FBI have been telling as about the DRC 's that
:24:12. > :24:16.Omar Mateen maintained inside that nightclub and the fact that he was
:24:17. > :24:25.talking to the police during those three hours.
:24:26. > :24:29.As Orlando continues to come together in its grief more
:24:30. > :24:32.information is coming to light about the horrific events that led to so
:24:33. > :24:38.much loss of life. The night of the attack, it is now
:24:39. > :24:45.known police were negotiating for nearly 30 minutes with Omar Mateen.
:24:46. > :24:51.The FBI has released partial transcripts of those calls. Omar
:24:52. > :24:58.Mateen identifies himself as an Islamic soldier saying America must
:24:59. > :25:08.stop bombing Serbia. At one point he threatens to detonate explosives in
:25:09. > :25:15.a vehicle outside the club. -- stop bombing Syria.
:25:16. > :25:21.He did so in a chilling and deliberate manner. The FBI says it
:25:22. > :25:25.is still looking into the motives of the killer, issues surrounding his
:25:26. > :25:33.mental health, his own sexual orientation, and the reason which he
:25:34. > :25:37.may have been radicalised. -- the ways in which he may have been
:25:38. > :25:47.radicalised. In your all 2016, an extraordinary
:25:48. > :26:02.second-half between Wales and Russia. 3- 02 wheels. And no score
:26:03. > :26:04.between England and Slovakia. --