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:00:20. > :00:28.Welcome back. There was an extraordinary scene earlier. The 27

:00:29. > :00:32.countries of the EU met without the UK being present. Our main story

:00:33. > :00:40.comes from Turkey where officials are saying at least 41 people lost

:00:41. > :00:43.their lives in that attack at the airport in eastern bowls. One of the

:00:44. > :00:49.people who witnessed the attack told the BBC what they saw. I walked

:00:50. > :00:54.around the corner into the main terminal and just a sea of people

:00:55. > :01:00.running, chipping and police with guns drawn. There have been a range

:01:01. > :01:05.of phrases used to tell the UK that once it is out of the EU -- EU it

:01:06. > :01:11.will not be able to cherry pick from an a la carte menu if it wants to be

:01:12. > :01:15.in the single market. It will be interesting to see how the UK

:01:16. > :01:21.Government response. A British qualifier at Wimbledon

:01:22. > :01:25.-based Roger Federer but he didn't quite make it. -- faced Roger

:01:26. > :01:53.Federer. Alan is watching and he says if we

:01:54. > :01:59.haven't triggered Article 50 how come they didn't invite us today and

:02:00. > :02:04.a few of you has asked this. It was not a formal summit. If it was, then

:02:05. > :02:12.David Cameron would have had to be here. To date, what is called an

:02:13. > :02:15.informal summit happened and then it is appropriate given the

:02:16. > :02:20.circumstances and the UK's decision to leave for the 27 countries to

:02:21. > :02:26.come together. I've spent the last couple of days in the press pit of

:02:27. > :02:30.the European Council and thousands of journalists are covering this.

:02:31. > :02:45.Three are joining me now to discuss what we've seen. We have three

:02:46. > :02:51.journalists or correspondence. Lots to digests but what would you pick

:02:52. > :02:57.out as the most significant thing. For me, it was when damp -- David

:02:58. > :03:04.Cameron was asked if he was saddened if he regrets his decision. He said

:03:05. > :03:11.he didn't regret it but he is sad. All the journalists looked at each

:03:12. > :03:17.other and said it must have been hard as it was the end of his

:03:18. > :03:21.European experience. For me, I thought the president of the

:03:22. > :03:27.European Commission was lucid on Tuesday saying, I'm not a robot or

:03:28. > :03:31.bureaucrat. I'm allowed to have feelings about the European

:03:32. > :03:34.referendum. He was defending his right to hold the place as president

:03:35. > :03:41.of the European Commission to lose a of the European Commission to lose a

:03:42. > :03:47.member and the second largest economy. He was fighting for his

:03:48. > :03:52.life and his job saying, I deserve this. Some of the things he said

:03:53. > :03:58.were almost rant like so I was shocked to see that, especially as

:03:59. > :04:04.an American where our leaders asked expected to appear strong and not

:04:05. > :04:08.emotional. For me it is more personal. I am reminded standing

:04:09. > :04:15.here on Friday morning and the feeling of meeting which is people

:04:16. > :04:19.and journalists who were in tears. I met one man in his 30s who was

:04:20. > :04:26.crying. We went into the press conference at 12 o'clock. It was a

:04:27. > :04:31.highly charged and highly emotional atmosphere. British officials here

:04:32. > :04:36.who will be out of a job... The reality is hitting home. Some people

:04:37. > :04:44.said they would be never out of a job. A lot of people said Brexit

:04:45. > :04:51.would never happen. What happened today was interesting. Cameron said

:04:52. > :04:57.yesterday... It was constructive and polite but as soon as he was gone it

:04:58. > :05:01.was different. No more room for sentiment or emotion. The talk was

:05:02. > :05:07.tough amongst the 27 remaining emotion -- members. I agree. They

:05:08. > :05:14.are questioning whether article 50 will ever be triggered and how long

:05:15. > :05:18.can they be -- deal with uncertainty before they had to apply pressure

:05:19. > :05:22.themselves? We had to wait until there is a new Prime Minister, but

:05:23. > :05:26.what does that do to the rest of Europe and their stock markets and

:05:27. > :05:31.their political situations? Will they be less generous if Britain

:05:32. > :05:38.puts them on hold? A lot of people were saying it was quite dramatic

:05:39. > :05:45.but in another sense it was quite subdued. The EU will be strategic.

:05:46. > :05:48.They will give the UK time. They will not talk about treaty change.

:05:49. > :05:56.That will be something for September. It's quite clever. Let it

:05:57. > :05:59.play out in autumn and then look forward to next March and the

:06:00. > :06:04.anniversary of the Treaty of Rome and then you may see some grand

:06:05. > :06:12.picture of Europe. For now, just need to calm down. And then there is

:06:13. > :06:16.the Franco German plan. And other countries who have their own idea

:06:17. > :06:21.about what the EU should be like and for that it is more about internal

:06:22. > :06:27.market integration. Several officials as saying the answer is

:06:28. > :06:31.more integration. Then I speak to Polish representatives who say it is

:06:32. > :06:35.a terrible plan and you will a neonate people who aren't convinced

:06:36. > :06:41.about the EU. What he Belgian by ministers said was that we should

:06:42. > :06:48.stop kidding ourselves and stop being hypocrites. 28 or 27 countries

:06:49. > :06:55.of the EU will never have the same view of the European project. Whilst

:06:56. > :07:00.Belgian is the founding father -- father of the EU and it is in favour

:07:01. > :07:03.of those countries who really want to get more integration and go

:07:04. > :07:17.further within the European project should do so and others will... So a

:07:18. > :07:20.two track system? Even Angola Merkel was careful with her language and

:07:21. > :07:26.she realises it's not the time to talk about more Europe. We will see

:07:27. > :07:34.every tank street take a different position. -- country. Lots of

:07:35. > :07:39.countries echoed each other about giving Britain time and then France,

:07:40. > :07:45.Belgium and Luxembourg say we need more clarity. The effort in the next

:07:46. > :07:48.few months will be to have some semblance of unity while it plays

:07:49. > :07:54.out and then maybe have a debate later in the year. There's also a

:07:55. > :07:57.difference between the three institutions. The president is

:07:58. > :08:03.saying let us load Danny give the breathing room. Then the commission

:08:04. > :08:10.and Parliament say if you don't do something we'll put something

:08:11. > :08:17.forward to pressure you. You wonder about the judgment. Schultz said

:08:18. > :08:21.that we must invoke article 50 but everyone knew it would not happen so

:08:22. > :08:28.we wonder about that reaction. It is impetuous. But this week it was more

:08:29. > :08:33.calm. They are fighting about who will lead the discussion. The

:08:34. > :08:41.commission of the council so you will see recurring until we get some

:08:42. > :08:46.clarity. And when your cup was speaking in the parliament he said

:08:47. > :08:51.he warn the commission is not to go bilaterally with any country and

:08:52. > :08:56.that is interesting -- the EU Commissioner. No one must do deals

:08:57. > :09:01.on their own. There was a member on Tuesday saying that they are not

:09:02. > :09:03.allowed to go to the UK even. We could talk about this all evening

:09:04. > :09:10.and we probably will. I appreciate and we probably will. I appreciate

:09:11. > :09:19.your time. One person earlier said... I asked if the ban on

:09:20. > :09:24.discussions was real or just for PR and they said it is for real and it

:09:25. > :09:30.will not start until article 50 is triggered. Some questions here. More

:09:31. > :09:34.of you saying why is the UK not sitting on the council meeting

:09:35. > :09:41.today, but I explained it is an informal summit so it could be

:09:42. > :09:46.convened without breaking any regulations. It was appropriate not

:09:47. > :09:51.to invite the UK will stop if it had been a formal summit and the UK is

:09:52. > :09:57.always has to be invited. One always has to be invited. One

:09:58. > :10:02.happening in Scotland. The majority happening in Scotland. The majority

:10:03. > :10:09.of Scots wrote -- voted to remain in the UK and the majority of people in

:10:10. > :10:15.the UK voted out. 62% of Scots wanted to remain which has caused

:10:16. > :10:20.political tension. Nicola Sturgeon says it's outrageous and something

:10:21. > :10:26.needs to be done. She's been in Brussels or day and she spoken to

:10:27. > :10:30.the press. For my part, I've emphasised that Scotland voted to

:10:31. > :10:35.remain part of the European Union and I have a duty as First Minister

:10:36. > :10:42.to respond to and to seek to find a way to get effect to this will. If

:10:43. > :10:49.there is a way for Scotland to stay I am determined to try and find that

:10:50. > :10:57.way. Right now, we are in uncharted territory and none of this is easy.

:10:58. > :11:01.But my task is to try and bring some principle, purpose and clarity and

:11:02. > :11:05.seek to speak for the people I am elected to represent, the people of

:11:06. > :11:11.Scotland. We are very early in this process. The referendum is not yet a

:11:12. > :11:15.full week behind us and it has been a long week for all of us. My

:11:16. > :11:20.concern at this stage is to ensure that once the UK negotiations with

:11:21. > :11:26.the EU starts then all of the options are on the table. I don't

:11:27. > :11:30.underestimate the challenges, but I have been heartened today that I

:11:31. > :11:34.have found a willingness to listen. But there has been strong language

:11:35. > :11:45.on where Scotland fits in to discussions here. Listen to the

:11:46. > :11:48.acting Spanish Prime Minister. TRANSLATION: The Spanish government,

:11:49. > :11:53.and I'm sure on this we agree with everyone else is against negotiating

:11:54. > :11:56.with anyone else other than the government of the UK and the rest

:11:57. > :12:01.are internal problems between the UK and the others. And radically

:12:02. > :12:06.against it and the Treaty is and I'm sure everyone is against this. If

:12:07. > :12:15.the UK leaves during the negotiation whenever Italy's, Scotland also

:12:16. > :12:20.leaves the EU institutions. -- whenever it leaves. Lots more

:12:21. > :12:24.coverage on Scotland's situation through the BBC News app. Let us

:12:25. > :12:29.take a break from diplomacy and policy and talk about sport. It's

:12:30. > :12:35.the first week of Wimbledon and you suspect that Marcus Willis will not

:12:36. > :12:39.forget today in a hurry. A British tennis player ranked 772 in the

:12:40. > :12:45.world, the lowest ranking player to get to the second round of Wimbledon

:12:46. > :12:46.for years. His opponent was Roger Federer and it proved a hurdle to

:12:47. > :13:03.far. No one was going to overshadow

:13:04. > :13:07.Marcus Willis's day. The world rank outsider up against the world number

:13:08. > :13:13.three in the second round of these championships. A special moment for

:13:14. > :13:19.him to savour but a step too far as Roger Federer's quality told. He

:13:20. > :13:23.booked his place in the third round. It was business as usual for Novak

:13:24. > :13:33.Djokovic, the defending champion, as he came through in straight sets

:13:34. > :13:37.also. That match finished as Novak Djokovic but his place in the next

:13:38. > :13:45.round. The number three seed came through her match. She was up

:13:46. > :13:49.against the Ukrainian. This was their first round match and she came

:13:50. > :13:54.through in straight sets also. A former finalist and many predicted

:13:55. > :13:58.she could go far in this tournament. All eyes on the weather on day four

:13:59. > :14:03.of these championships as we look to see what the rain will do on the

:14:04. > :14:08.conclusion of a number of matches due to be finished on these outside

:14:09. > :14:13.courts. Centre court has a roof so plenty of action there on day four.

:14:14. > :14:20.No football today at the Euros but things get going again in France

:14:21. > :14:29.tomorrow. Portugal against Poland on Thursday.

:14:30. > :14:42.Not getting easy to accept the England result! It's a funny old

:14:43. > :14:47.sport, Tim, because none of these teams have stamped their 30 on it.

:14:48. > :14:53.I've been trying to forget Iceland since Monday so thank you for that!

:14:54. > :14:57.It has been a tournament for the underdogs with outstanding

:14:58. > :15:02.performances from Northern Ireland, angry and Iceland, of course. I tell

:15:03. > :15:05.you who else is pretty cheery and that is the Welsh football fans as

:15:06. > :15:11.their side is through to the last eight and they play Belgium on

:15:12. > :15:16.Friday night. A nation without a major tournament in years and now

:15:17. > :15:22.one match away from the semifinals. Real Madrid man has been their

:15:23. > :15:27.staff. I think it's our time to shine. The only home nation left in

:15:28. > :15:34.the competition which is an amazing achievement in itself. The game

:15:35. > :15:41.against Northern Ireland was an ugly game, not suited to us I guess. To

:15:42. > :15:45.play badly and not to win... Well, not bad but to have an ugly game and

:15:46. > :15:49.win shows our team spirit and character. We are very happy, and

:15:50. > :15:55.proud and we will fly the flag of Wales proud.

:15:56. > :16:00.What a performance from him serve. Three goals and he's enjoyed first

:16:01. > :16:06.place for the Golden Boot, but he had to get the dig in about being

:16:07. > :16:09.the last home nation in with Iceland embarrassing England. The first

:16:10. > :16:15.quarter pine up takes place on Friday evening at. Portugal haven't

:16:16. > :16:20.won a match during normal time in this tournament.

:16:21. > :16:32.Thank you. One viewer says he's confused about Scotland's status.

:16:33. > :16:37.Nicola Sturgeon can hold talks at the but they are not formal talks

:16:38. > :16:44.about Scottish membership of the EE. The EU says that would be

:16:45. > :16:47.inappropriate. Another asks from the Netherlands, if article 50 isn't

:16:48. > :16:54.going to be triggered till September what happens now? The short answer

:16:55. > :16:58.is not that much. In terms of the exit process, everything pauses

:16:59. > :17:05.until article 50 is triggered. In a few minutes we have a report from

:17:06. > :17:10.jubilant. People there voted in huge numbers to stay in the European

:17:11. > :17:17.Union and now they were are worried -- Gibraltar.

:17:18. > :17:22.The number of families in temporary housing is that his highest in more

:17:23. > :17:23.than five years with more than a million in England and Wales on cars

:17:24. > :17:27.or housing waiting lists. Healthcare assistant Natasha,

:17:28. > :17:30.and Henry, just turned nine. A small family overwhelmed

:17:31. > :17:35.by a giant housing crisis. At the same time,

:17:36. > :17:41.it's our dining table. Two of them now sharing four

:17:42. > :17:48.walls, one room, one bed. Among thousands now in

:17:49. > :17:53.temporary accommodation. We first met Natasha

:17:54. > :17:57.when she was facing eviction from her West London

:17:58. > :17:59.flat six months ago. A working mum who fell

:18:00. > :18:01.behind on her rent. The council says it's tried to help

:18:02. > :18:05.but the few places on offer are too expensive or too

:18:06. > :18:09.far away from her job. I can't sleep because

:18:10. > :18:13.of the situation. How can a human being who's working,

:18:14. > :18:17.earning money, you don't It may be centred on London, but

:18:18. > :18:27.this is a national housing crisis. With soaring rents, benefit cuts

:18:28. > :18:30.and, now, more than a million people waiting for council houses

:18:31. > :18:35.which simply aren't there. The response is often crisis

:18:36. > :18:37.management, fire fighting, a sticking plaster on the symptoms

:18:38. > :18:41.of a wider housing crisis caused The people who are paying the price

:18:42. > :18:47.are ordinary families. Families like Hayley's,

:18:48. > :18:51.stuck in a temporary one-bedroom flat for more than a year

:18:52. > :18:55.with four children. The council house waiting list

:18:56. > :18:59.makes grim reading. Here, it's two rooms

:19:00. > :19:09.for five people. Hayley, originally from

:19:10. > :19:11.South Africa, was working. But divorce meant eviction,

:19:12. > :19:16.unemployment and then, this place. The council says it is

:19:17. > :19:18.trying to help her. I don't feel anybody

:19:19. > :19:28.thinks I'm important. It is a crisis which will have

:19:29. > :19:33.a profound impact on many young lives as they grow up

:19:34. > :19:37.with no place to call home. Jeremy Cooke, BBC News,

:19:38. > :20:02.London. Welcome back. We are live by the

:20:03. > :20:06.European in Brussels. Our lead story comes from Turkey where authorities

:20:07. > :20:11.say at least 41 died in an attack at the airport. There is a day of

:20:12. > :20:16.national mourning being called as well.

:20:17. > :20:22.This is a boot for those who claim the UK can thrive outside the EU.

:20:23. > :20:24.The FTSE 100 has recovered to the level it was that before the vote to

:20:25. > :20:38.leave the EE. -- TEU. Let us can to Gibraltar. It gave us

:20:39. > :20:44.the first result after voting in the referendum and it was pretty much

:20:45. > :20:49.the only bit of good news for the Remain campaign. 96% of voters in

:20:50. > :20:54.Gibraltar said they wanted to stay in the EU and when you look at the

:20:55. > :21:00.geography you can perhaps understand why. There are now concerns amongst

:21:01. > :21:02.residents that the UK exiting the EU could affect the delicate

:21:03. > :21:08.relationship Gibraltar has with Spain. We have been to Gibraltar to

:21:09. > :21:16.meet some of those people. meet some of those people.

:21:17. > :21:19.If there's one part of the UK that definitely, definitely doesn't want

:21:20. > :21:24.to leave the European Union it is this. Less than ten miles from the

:21:25. > :21:30.coast of North Africa Gibraltar voted overwhelmingly for Remain.

:21:31. > :21:36.There are people living on the rock and 823 of them is only said they

:21:37. > :21:43.wanted to leave the EU. Gibraltar is more pro-European men anywhere in

:21:44. > :21:47.Britain. Newsnight has learned that Gibraltar's government is working on

:21:48. > :21:52.a plan to stay in the EU and it's looking for allies. In his first

:21:53. > :21:56.broadcast interview since the referendum the territory's Chief

:21:57. > :22:01.minister told us he was talking to Scotland's Nicola Sturgeon about

:22:02. > :22:05.various options. There are different formulas out there and this is like

:22:06. > :22:11.a kaleidoscope that has not scared -- settled. One thing may be the

:22:12. > :22:15.formula Denmark used in the 70s to strip out a part of the territory

:22:16. > :22:22.that doesn't want to stay part of the EU but the member state is still

:22:23. > :22:24.find as Greenland -- Denmark there were no longer includes Greenland. I

:22:25. > :22:28.can imagine some member states of can imagine some member states of

:22:29. > :22:33.the UK are stripped out and others remain so we don't have two apply

:22:34. > :22:36.again for access but simply remain with the axis we have. Those parts

:22:37. > :22:43.that Labour given a different sort of access which is negotiated, but

:22:44. > :22:48.not necessarily under article 50. Gibraltar and Scotland may stay --

:22:49. > :22:53.share a desire to stay in the EU but on the subject of the UK they

:22:54. > :22:58.differ. People in Gibraltar want to remain part of Britain. Immediately

:22:59. > :23:03.after the referendum, Spain raised the issue of shared sovereignty. The

:23:04. > :23:09.Spanish flag on the rock is closer than it was before the Foreign

:23:10. > :23:16.Minister said. That is anathema to almost anyone here. London has

:23:17. > :23:18.reiterated its commitment to Gibraltar, but the Foreign Secretary

:23:19. > :23:24.said the interests of the territory here will be harder to protect

:23:25. > :23:29.outside the EU. Anyone who thinks this is a time to proposed joint

:23:30. > :23:35.sovereignty or if they think they will gain a millimetre is wrong.

:23:36. > :23:39.They shouldn't waste their breath. 10,000 Spanish workers crossing to

:23:40. > :23:43.Gibraltar every day. They and the Gibraltarians have been reassured

:23:44. > :23:47.that nothing will change for now. But the reality is that at the

:23:48. > :23:53.moment no one knows how exit will play out here.

:23:54. > :24:05.Three questions to end the programme. One viewer asks if...?

:24:06. > :24:15.All the leaders of the 27 EU states say they want to be in. Jess says,

:24:16. > :24:18.what is does David Cameron have to leave? He says it is the

:24:19. > :24:22.responsibility of a new Prime Minister to oversee that process so

:24:23. > :24:26.he will lead the country for the next couple of months but the hard

:24:27. > :24:31.work will be done by the new Prime Minister. Another asks if Brexit is

:24:32. > :24:36.a certainty? Certainly the number of people who voted for it will hope

:24:37. > :24:39.so. All the officials I've spoken to here at the EU are working on the

:24:40. > :24:44.assumption it will happen and the message they want to centre the UK

:24:45. > :24:49.is that they want it to happen soon. Frankly, given what we've seen over

:24:50. > :24:53.the last few days I'm not sure we can say anything is a certainty. It

:24:54. > :25:00.is the intention of the UK to leave and it is the intention of the UK --

:25:01. > :25:04.EU to honour that. That's all for now.