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:00:13. > :00:21.hello, I'm Ros Atkins, welcome to outside source, in Aleppo at least

:00:22. > :00:26.45 people have been killed in the most intense bombing in months, an

:00:27. > :00:31.aid convoy has reached at least one Syrian town, the UN says getting to

:00:32. > :00:37.Aleppo is almost impossible. President Assad blames the US. I

:00:38. > :00:45.believe this is not genuine regarding the cessation of violence

:00:46. > :00:49.this year. One boat loaded with migrants has collapsed of the

:00:50. > :00:53.Egyptian coast, relief for the survivors although it is believed

:00:54. > :00:58.hundreds have died, we will have a report from the region. This looks

:00:59. > :01:04.like an important story, Yahoo has announced that 500 million of its

:01:05. > :01:08.users had information stolen in 2014 and it may have been a

:01:09. > :01:12.state-sponsored act. Safely in San Francisco is working on that. If you

:01:13. > :01:13.have questions on any of our stories, these

:01:14. > :01:44.B start with breaking news which has come to the BBC newsroom in the last

:01:45. > :01:48.few moments, saying that the Syrian army has announced the start of a

:01:49. > :01:54.new major offensive in rebel held eastern Aleppo and calls on

:01:55. > :01:57.residents to avoid rebel outposts. There have been extraordinarily

:01:58. > :02:01.heavy bombardment is in Aleppo. The Syrian army now says there will be

:02:02. > :02:07.any major offensive in this part of the city. That very much confirms

:02:08. > :02:12.what we have been saying for the last 48 hours, the ceasefire looks

:02:13. > :02:17.to be completely over. President Assad of Syria will have been the

:02:18. > :02:21.man who ordered that offensive. He has given array interview. In the

:02:22. > :02:25.last five years he's been accused of orchestrating the Indus

:02:26. > :02:30.indiscriminate bombing of civilians and the use of chemical weapons. He

:02:31. > :02:35.denies this and denies any knowledge of that attack on a UN aid convoy on

:02:36. > :02:39.Monday. He is pointing the figure at the Americans on that. The interview

:02:40. > :02:48.was conducted by the APA news agency. This is some of that.

:02:49. > :02:57.We would like to be committed to a ceasefire but it is not about silly

:02:58. > :03:03.or Russia, it's about the United States and the groups that have been

:03:04. > :03:13.affiliated to Isis. They announced publicly that they are not

:03:14. > :03:17.committed. This started in February, last February, it did not work I

:03:18. > :03:22.think because of the United States and I believe the United States is

:03:23. > :03:27.not genuine, regarding having the cessation of violence this year.

:03:28. > :03:31.There is one thing all sides can agree on, this ceasefire has just

:03:32. > :03:35.about collapsed. This is footage of the bombardment of Aleppo that I was

:03:36. > :03:40.mentioning. One of the most sustained attacks on the city for

:03:41. > :03:43.months and it is reported that 45 people have lost their lives.

:03:44. > :03:48.America's top military official has wade into this debate over who

:03:49. > :03:54.carried out the attack on that UN aid convoy on Monday. General Joseph

:03:55. > :03:58.Dunford says he has no doubt that the Russians are responsible, he

:03:59. > :04:03.just doesn't know whose aircraft dropped the bomb. He is saying that

:04:04. > :04:06.there are three air forces above Syria, the Syrian air force, the

:04:07. > :04:12.Russian air force and the US led coalition. So it was one of those

:04:13. > :04:16.three. He is saying it is not the American led coalition although he

:04:17. > :04:19.is not sure which of the other two were responsible. Syria is still top

:04:20. > :04:23.of the agenda at the United Nations as it has been all week. We can

:04:24. > :04:31.speak to Laura Trevelyan from New York. You have a guest who can help

:04:32. > :04:37.us understand how this issue is being approached? That's right, Ros,

:04:38. > :04:42.this is a spokeswoman for the Syrian opposition. Right now, we have these

:04:43. > :04:47.diplomatic talks going on in New York, John Kerry has met with

:04:48. > :04:51.Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, we are also hearing news

:04:52. > :04:59.that the Syrian military has announced this offensive in eastern

:05:00. > :05:04.Aleppo. What is your reaction. This shows that the regime is lying. You

:05:05. > :05:08.can't just have an offensive about preparing for one, without having

:05:09. > :05:12.the proper army and air coverage so you can't just come out all of a

:05:13. > :05:16.sudden and say I'm trying to advance in Aleppo. It means the regime has

:05:17. > :05:20.been preparing for weeks for this offensive and he's just buying time,

:05:21. > :05:27.relying on the Russians to give him more time to do this ground

:05:28. > :05:32.offensive. Where do you think that leaves the diplomacy? Is this US -

:05:33. > :05:37.Russia ceasefire deal dead if there is a new Syrian military offensive

:05:38. > :05:41.in rebel held eastern Aleppo? You can say this all goes back to the

:05:42. > :05:48.USA and the Americans and they are meeting and putting pressure on the

:05:49. > :05:52.other side. We talked about the grounding of the Syrian regime, that

:05:53. > :05:56.would be an important step if Woods turned to actions so we need the US

:05:57. > :06:01.leadership to come forward and pressure the Russians but so far

:06:02. > :06:06.from all the meetings at the UN today nothing came out of them.

:06:07. > :06:10.Sergey Lavrov is buying time from the United States and buying time

:06:11. > :06:14.for the regime to prepare themselves to protect Aleppo because that is

:06:15. > :06:19.all they want, to take Aleppo and advance in northern Syria. He

:06:20. > :06:23.doesn't want a truce. He doesn't want a ceasefire. Do you get the

:06:24. > :06:27.sense that people are waiting for the next US administration, the

:06:28. > :06:32.clock is ticking on the Obama administration which will leave

:06:33. > :06:37.office in January and what impact is that having on people on the ground?

:06:38. > :06:41.Secretary John Kerry has some time to work on what he called for

:06:42. > :06:45.yesterday, he requested the grounding of the Syrian regime and

:06:46. > :06:51.holding them accountable, who will now react on this offensive? We lost

:06:52. > :06:55.yesterday around 22 civilians since this morning. Who will be

:06:56. > :07:00.responsible for this? So of course we are counting on the next

:07:01. > :07:03.administration to have a proper foreign policy towards Syria but we

:07:04. > :07:07.do hope Secretary Kerry in the remaining time will use that time to

:07:08. > :07:14.work on a no-fly zone or at least the grounding of the Syrian regime.

:07:15. > :07:21.You were at the Geneva peace talks which were about a transition to a

:07:22. > :07:24.new form of government in Syria, with what you've heard about the

:07:25. > :07:29.bombing and the new offensive in eastern Aleppo, what hopes still you

:07:30. > :07:35.have of a peaceful solution? Absolutely we don't have a hope for

:07:36. > :07:39.such regime. We hope again that the USA and our friends and allies will

:07:40. > :07:42.step forward and take their responsibilities. They are the ones

:07:43. > :07:49.who worked on the political solution. The political solution was

:07:50. > :07:53.signed in Vienna with all the Syrian groups, they have to take their

:07:54. > :07:58.responsibility. We hope that peace will come to Syria but it takes two

:07:59. > :08:04.to tango. That is why we are looking for reliable partner to achieve that

:08:05. > :08:08.piece. Thank you for joining us. That is the view from this

:08:09. > :08:12.spokesperson for the Syrian opposition, she has been here all

:08:13. > :08:18.week attending all these meetings, while the fighting on the ground is

:08:19. > :08:21.apparently revived. The interesting thing listening to your guest is a

:08:22. > :08:25.tacit acknowledgement that whatever the Syrian government or the

:08:26. > :08:29.opposition once, it will be the Americans and the Russians who work

:08:30. > :08:34.this one out. -- whatever the Syrians want. Particularly the

:08:35. > :08:38.Russians because it is the Russians that have the leverage with

:08:39. > :08:43.President Assad because one year ago they started this military operation

:08:44. > :08:47.in support of Assad and he's acknowledged that it has made a

:08:48. > :08:52.difference to him, it has enabled him to solidify, even advance his

:08:53. > :08:58.position. So the question is, how involved to the Russians wish to get

:08:59. > :09:01.in, as it were, keeping President Assad in this position? Are they

:09:02. > :09:05.going to want to reach a stage where it looks like he's got the upper

:09:06. > :09:11.hand and wants to negotiate what is going on? Big power politics and

:09:12. > :09:14.that meeting going on right now the international Syria support group

:09:15. > :09:17.and we help to hear from Sergey Lavrov, the Russian Prime Minister

:09:18. > :09:21.and John Kerry when that meeting wraps up. It started about 40

:09:22. > :09:27.minutes ago. Thank you for all your reporting this week from the United

:09:28. > :09:31.Nations. We started by looking at what is happening in Syria and in

:09:32. > :09:36.New York. Now a devastating story off the coast of Egypt. A boat full

:09:37. > :09:42.of migrants trying to reach Europe has capsized. We understand it was

:09:43. > :09:47.12 kilometres out to sea. We know that rescuers have operated out of

:09:48. > :09:51.Rosetta, Egypt, and survivors have told the BBC there were about 550

:09:52. > :10:03.people on board and hundreds of people are feared drowned. Hard to

:10:04. > :10:06.confirm those numbers that all Geron the BBC has tried to find out what

:10:07. > :10:22.happened. Reclaimed from the sea,

:10:23. > :10:24.survivors of the latest tragedy Saved by the Egyptian military,

:10:25. > :10:28.but taken into police custody. Some overwhelmed by exhaustion,

:10:29. > :10:30.after up to 8 hours treading water, Most were young Egyptians from poor

:10:31. > :10:35.communities, who told us they wanted They said more than 550 people

:10:36. > :10:46.were crammed onto the boat. It was very small,

:10:47. > :10:48.said Ahmed, who's 17. Before we capsized,

:10:49. > :10:58.half the crew got away. Mohammed survived, but without his

:10:59. > :11:06.cousin, who was just 14. TRANSLATION: May God have

:11:07. > :11:08.mercy on him and all I was going to die,

:11:09. > :11:24.but God helped me. Outside the police station,

:11:25. > :11:37.anguish and anger. Some relatives complained

:11:38. > :11:38.the authorities took hours to respond to distress signals

:11:39. > :11:41.from the sinking boat. But then, what they'd

:11:42. > :11:47.all been waiting for. The survivors are emerging now,

:11:48. > :11:51.they've spent the night in custody. They're being reunited

:11:52. > :11:53.with their families. Many of the relatives have been

:11:54. > :11:56.maintaining a vigil here right through the night,

:11:57. > :11:59.hoping against hope to get news Hoping that they were

:12:00. > :12:11.not among the dead. This ten-year-old was carried out.

:12:12. > :12:17.He set sail with his teenage cousins. They survived but his

:12:18. > :12:30.eight-year old brother did not. He has barely spoken since he was

:12:31. > :12:40.rescued. And this father, beyond words in his grave. Ahmed had just

:12:41. > :12:47.found out his 16-year-old son is no longer among the living. One more

:12:48. > :12:54.young man who died trying for a better life. Orla Guerin, BBC News,

:12:55. > :13:04.Rosetta, Egypt. You can find that report with

:13:05. > :13:11.further information on the migrant crisis online now.

:13:12. > :13:19.We will go back to North Carolina where there is a state of emergency

:13:20. > :13:22.in Charlotte, a second night of violence, demonstrators throwing

:13:23. > :13:27.rocks at the police and the police in turn using standard grades. 44

:13:28. > :13:33.people were arrested and one person is in hospital, police say that

:13:34. > :13:37.person was shot by a protester. This is a message from the governor of

:13:38. > :13:40.North Carolina saying he has declared a state of emergency and

:13:41. > :13:46.turned to the National Guard and Highway Patrol to assist with law

:13:47. > :13:51.enforcement. We've heard from the mayor of the city. This is a clip of

:13:52. > :13:57.what she has been saying. The safety and security of our community and

:13:58. > :14:02.our law enforcement officers remains our top priority. Today our city is

:14:03. > :14:09.open for business as usual and we let people come to our town, we are

:14:10. > :14:16.here working, buses are running, we are here to serve in the city is

:14:17. > :14:20.open. There's began with the police shooting dead Keith Lamont Scott,

:14:21. > :14:29.the third black person to be shot dead this week by an American police

:14:30. > :14:31.officer. The first was in Ohio, 113-year-old was shot after

:14:32. > :14:38.allegedly pulling an air gun from his waistband steering arrest-1

:14:39. > :14:46.13-year-old. There was also a story from Tulsa in Oklahoma, a motorist

:14:47. > :14:52.was shot and his sister has been talking to the BBC's world Have Your

:14:53. > :14:59.Say programme. This is some of the interview. It was very disturbing to

:15:00. > :15:05.hear the audio of the helicopter police, people that we pay to

:15:06. > :15:10.protect and serve us, to prejudge my brother and say, he looks like a big

:15:11. > :15:17.bed man, he just wasn't given a chance. He wasn't armed, -- big bad

:15:18. > :15:22.man. He wasn't doing anything criminal, no weapons in the vehicle.

:15:23. > :15:27.They approached him like he was bad. I am just heartbroken, I am

:15:28. > :15:32.heartbroken. All three incidents will be investigated by the police.

:15:33. > :15:37.One last thing, this is a project by the Guardian. It has begun

:15:38. > :15:43.documenting every person killed by the police in America. So far this

:15:44. > :15:49.year that has come to 790 people. To break them down by race 194 of those

:15:50. > :15:55.people were black. That's 25% of those who died, 13% of America's

:15:56. > :15:59.population is black so clearly the number of Black deaths is

:16:00. > :16:03.disproportionately high. Get full details of those who have died and

:16:04. > :16:10.who they were through the Guardian's website. In a while we will be live

:16:11. > :16:15.in San Francisco to update you on an important story. Yahoo says 500

:16:16. > :16:21.million of its users, many of them watching now, will have had

:16:22. > :16:26.information stolen in 2014. Dave legal map will tell us what was

:16:27. > :16:33.stolen and who might have done it- Dave legal map.

:16:34. > :16:39.100 days until Hull becomes city of culture, the artistic programme has

:16:40. > :16:52.been unveiled and the organiser of the event is Martin Green.

:16:53. > :17:02.It's called made in Halle, we've got an installation piece which is about

:17:03. > :17:08.the past of the city and also performances by Woody Woodman C and

:17:09. > :17:12.Tony Visconti from the Spiders from Mars, a new exhibition about the

:17:13. > :17:15.work of transmissions from this city, many stories that hopefully

:17:16. > :17:20.will bring it alive to people who might not have considered the city

:17:21. > :17:22.before. This is a 365 day programme and we'll have something on every

:17:23. > :17:44.day for 365 days. Welcome back, this is Outside

:17:45. > :17:49.Source, a rebel held convoy has reached the first outside area of

:17:50. > :17:56.Damascus, the first aid convoy since the ceasefire stopped and the

:17:57. > :18:03.bombardment stopped the convoy reaching Aleppo. In Yemen Saudi led

:18:04. > :18:09.air strikes killed 20 civilians in the rebel held city yesterday. We

:18:10. > :18:13.reported from there, the city is cut off from aid supplies and people are

:18:14. > :18:19.dying from money division. Australian authorities have cast

:18:20. > :18:23.doubt on the theory that the missing flight from Rosie might have had a

:18:24. > :18:27.fire on board before it went missing. If you look at the most red

:18:28. > :18:34.list on the BBC website a new Disney film has drawn accolades and

:18:35. > :18:37.criticisms. The accolades of the focus on Polynesian culture, yet

:18:38. > :18:47.critics say it is cultural appropriation.

:18:48. > :18:53.confirmed that hackers stole information from 500 million users

:18:54. > :18:59.in 2014. It has been suggested that a state rather than a hacking group

:19:00. > :19:05.is involved. Dave Lee is working on the story from San Francisco. Dave,

:19:06. > :19:10.what kind of information was taken? Yahoo says it thinks a lot of

:19:11. > :19:14.personal information was taken, names, addresses, dates of birth,

:19:15. > :19:19.also security questions and answers like what is your mother 's maiden

:19:20. > :19:23.name, that's been taken. Passwords were stolen although they have been

:19:24. > :19:31.encrypted so that should be OK. And payment data like credit cards, but

:19:32. > :19:34.has not been taken. The nature of some of the information is not as

:19:35. > :19:41.drastic as it could be although the size of the bridge is troubling. Why

:19:42. > :19:45.didn't they tell us two days ago? They say that they did not know two

:19:46. > :19:50.years ago. They've been looking into this for some time. They said a

:19:51. > :19:55.journalist came to Yahoo and said they had seen the information being

:19:56. > :20:04.sold on the dark web. That's shady part of the Internet where many

:20:05. > :20:08.deals are done. It all became public in August this year when that story

:20:09. > :20:13.broke and it has taken until today for Yahoo to confirm the extent of

:20:14. > :20:16.the bridge, they were at first said it was 200 million users and now

:20:17. > :20:24.they have confirmed it is 500 million users. I've just spoken to a

:20:25. > :20:28.company that bought Yahoo for a massive deal in July and they said

:20:29. > :20:32.they've only heard about the breach in the last two days. So you do

:20:33. > :20:37.wonder what impact that might have upon the purchase of Yahoo. People

:20:38. > :20:42.will be watching in the UK who have accounts with Yahoo, watch and they

:20:43. > :20:48.do? The usual advice, we've heard it so often, change your passwords, and

:20:49. > :20:52.be vigilant for any suspicious e-mails that may appear to be from

:20:53. > :20:57.Yahoo or indeed from anyone because they might be trying to get more

:20:58. > :21:03.information from you. The main thing is, change your passwords. Thank

:21:04. > :21:07.you, Dave, live from San Francisco. Back to the business coverage. We

:21:08. > :21:11.have talked many times about the efforts to make a new trade deal

:21:12. > :21:15.between the European Union and the US. At called a transatlantic trade

:21:16. > :21:24.and investment partnership. Not very snappy. People call it TTIP. Last

:21:25. > :21:28.month Germany's economic adviser said the process had failed and

:21:29. > :21:32.nobody is admitting it. One more push is going on in Bratislava in

:21:33. > :21:39.Slovakia and Rob Cameron from the BBC is there.

:21:40. > :21:45.TTIP the deal with the US has been described as deadlocked, moribund,

:21:46. > :21:49.that isn't just the media, these are words from the very highest

:21:50. > :21:54.officials in Europe, especially in Germany and France. We are expecting

:21:55. > :21:58.the French Trade Minister to table a motion for TTIP to be formally

:21:59. > :22:04.paused in Bratislava. Will that happen? We'll have to wait and see.

:22:05. > :22:09.This time last week I was in Bratislava with Outside Source, and

:22:10. > :22:13.one big question was when the UK would trigger Article 50 and begin

:22:14. > :22:18.the process of leaving the European Union. Boris Johnson, the UK Foreign

:22:19. > :22:22.Secretary, has had this to say today. We are talking to our

:22:23. > :22:26.European friends and partners in the expectation that by the early part

:22:27. > :22:32.of next year you will see an Article 50 letter. This echoes what Donald

:22:33. > :22:36.Tusk, the president of the European Council, said, that Theresa May and

:22:37. > :22:40.intimated that this would be their favourite time to trigger Article

:22:41. > :22:47.50. It doesn't mean that it will happen, although this is where the

:22:48. > :22:53.mood music is at the moment. If I say Tim Horton 's, many of you may

:22:54. > :22:58.well have blank faces, but not in Canada, it is part restaurant chain,

:22:59. > :23:04.part Canadian institution, pot coffee and doughnut specialist and

:23:05. > :23:08.it's coming to the UK. If this clip we are about to see has anything to

:23:09. > :23:30.go by, we all have some learning to do!

:23:31. > :23:51.Tim who? Horton? I haven't. I recognise the name. Isn't that food?

:23:52. > :23:53.Is it? I don't know. I have no idea, I don't know. I'm assuming it's some

:23:54. > :24:13.kind of Coffey shot? Know, I've no idea. Yes, Tim Hortons

:24:14. > :24:17.doughnut things, yes. Samir Hussein joins us live from New York, as a

:24:18. > :24:23.Canadian you are perfectly positioned to explain to the rest of

:24:24. > :24:28.us what makes TTIP so special to all of you? Not only that, I could

:24:29. > :24:33.answer any of those questions, I could tell you what a double double

:24:34. > :24:38.is! I have had a double double but for me it is a bit too much cream

:24:39. > :24:45.and sugar. Tim Hortons is an institution because it a coffee

:24:46. > :24:50.chain where you can find -- you can find it all over Canada and it was

:24:51. > :24:53.started by a hockey player, of course, how Canadian! This is a

:24:54. > :24:58.coffee chain that is very quintessential with Canadian

:24:59. > :25:01.culture. Why would you go to a Tim Hortons? You will ask for a double

:25:02. > :25:06.double and everyone will know what you are talking about. We have seen

:25:07. > :25:11.that TTIP are making their way into other countries. There are Tim

:25:12. > :25:16.Hortons in the USA, some in New York, not far from the BBC office

:25:17. > :25:21.and as a franchise is making its way into different countries, they are

:25:22. > :25:26.in the Middle East, it was that the Canadian base in Afghanistan, and

:25:27. > :25:32.now we hear that it's making its way to the United Kingdom. We will see

:25:33. > :25:36.how it does, thank you for explaining it! Tim Hortons, coming

:25:37. > :25:40.to the UK. If you are watching in Canada and the US you can tell us

:25:41. > :25:46.what is so special about it, I guess I will get the chance to try it for

:25:47. > :25:50.myself in London. That's it for this half of Outside Source, if you have

:25:51. > :25:52.questions, use this hashtag and I'll be back with you in a couple of

:25:53. > :26:12.minutes time. Good evening, time to look at what

:26:13. > :26:14.is happening weather-wise around the world.