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:00:08. > :00:09.Hello, I'm Philippa Thomas, this is Outside Source.

:00:10. > :00:12.We start in New Jersey, where a packed commuter train has

:00:13. > :00:19.At least one person has died and more than 100 more are injured.

:00:20. > :00:23.Some passengers in the wreckage had to escape through the windows.

:00:24. > :00:25.People who were able to walk away described the high speed

:00:26. > :00:30.of the train in the moments before it crashed.

:00:31. > :00:34.When we felt the train slamming or sliding into the station,

:00:35. > :00:38.we just wanted to make sure that everyone we could help was standing

:00:39. > :00:42.on their feet or that we could get them out of harm's way.

:00:43. > :00:45.Post-Brexit can Britain have its cake and eat it too?

:00:46. > :00:47.Today, the International Trade Secretary says yes,

:00:48. > :00:53.but the Italian Prime Minister tells the BBC it's impossible.

:00:54. > :00:58.It will be impossible to give to British people more rights

:00:59. > :01:04.Tensions are building on the India-Pakistan border.

:01:05. > :01:08.India says it's conducted surgical strikes against suspected militants

:01:09. > :01:16.And of course if you want to get in touch with us at any time,

:01:17. > :01:38.It was a key train connection into New York City.

:01:39. > :01:40.And a train derailed, sped through the

:01:41. > :01:45.One woman was killed when she was hit by

:01:46. > :01:51.Witnesses say the train came hurtling into the station

:01:52. > :01:54.in Hoboken, New Jersey, went up over the blocks at the end

:01:55. > :02:00.of the track and hit a concrete-and-steel bumper.

:02:01. > :02:03.Hoboken is here, just across the Hudson River

:02:04. > :02:07.from Manhattan and is a terminus for many trains taking

:02:08. > :02:33.Well, we have heard from the governors of New York and New Jersey

:02:34. > :02:37.that the engineer of the train is in critical condition in hospital, but

:02:38. > :02:42.we are told he is co-operating with authorities. He is really going to

:02:43. > :02:47.be a key part of this puzzle into exactly what happened when the train

:02:48. > :02:53.sped through, pummelling into the station here in Hoboken without

:02:54. > :02:58.decelerating its speed at all, so we're waiting to see when they do

:02:59. > :03:02.their investigation, they are going to be on-site doing an

:03:03. > :03:06.investigation, and we will be very interested to see in the next few

:03:07. > :03:10.days or weeks, however long it takes for that investigation to conclude,

:03:11. > :03:16.just what role the driver had in this if any, and also the state of

:03:17. > :03:18.the train and its mechanics. Do stay with us.

:03:19. > :03:21.Let's hear from one of the passengers who was on the train.

:03:22. > :03:24.When we came into Hoboken, it slowed down as we were coming

:03:25. > :03:29.It was like a big crash and then everything from the ceiling

:03:30. > :03:40.I don't think anybody in the car that I was in...

:03:41. > :03:44.I think people got some head injuries from some stuff

:03:45. > :03:48.falling from the ceiling, but I think the train hit people

:03:49. > :03:51.in the Hoboken terminal that were standing waiting

:03:52. > :04:04.Neda, what have you heard from other passengers?

:04:05. > :04:12.The BBC has spoken to several people. One man was actually in the

:04:13. > :04:15.first car, the car that was in the lead, basically, hitting into the

:04:16. > :04:21.train station. He said people were screaming, there was a pool of blood

:04:22. > :04:24.on the floor of the car, bloody injuries and also people bruised and

:04:25. > :04:29.injured. He was able to just leave the train. Luckily he didn't have

:04:30. > :04:34.any severe injuries. But we have heard people saying there was a lot

:04:35. > :04:38.of chaos, screaming and confusion as to what had happened exactly. As we

:04:39. > :04:41.have heard from the governors of New York and New Jersey, the person who

:04:42. > :04:47.died was not on the train but was on the concourse, the platform, and was

:04:48. > :04:51.hit from debris that had fallen. So it's been a very chaotic morning

:04:52. > :04:57.here. Even the responders going in to help those who were injured were

:04:58. > :05:02.wary of the structural damage in the train station with it being unsafe.

:05:03. > :05:05.We have heard from several eyewitnesses on the train, all of

:05:06. > :05:07.them trying to describe the chaotic scenes.

:05:08. > :05:10.Here's the account of one person who tried to help at the station.

:05:11. > :05:13.The phrase I would use is like, "Oh, my God", so I'm

:05:14. > :05:15.a minister so that's all I can think of,

:05:16. > :05:18.just "Oh, my God", because what happened is that, when it happened,

:05:19. > :05:21.it was so shocking that people just ran and stared at first.

:05:22. > :05:22.You just don't believe that happened.

:05:23. > :05:25.And then you've got to wake up and realise, oh,

:05:26. > :05:30.Because when I ran up, I looked and it was like,

:05:31. > :05:33.I saw a guy bleeding from the head, then I saw another, then I saw

:05:34. > :05:37.I didn't even see many bodies until I ran over there and then

:05:38. > :05:40.I saw people getting up and getting helped up, bleeding

:05:41. > :05:46.And questions are being asked about train control measures.

:05:47. > :05:55.Was there technology that could have stopped this happening?

:05:56. > :06:02.Absolutely. And this was the key question posed to authorities here,

:06:03. > :06:07.who have said they don't want to speculate yet on the cause and are

:06:08. > :06:11.waiting till the investigation has concluded, but even still, the key

:06:12. > :06:15.question is, why wasn't a fail-safe mechanism in place in the train, so

:06:16. > :06:21.that despite it going at such a high speed, this would have stopped it

:06:22. > :06:24.automatically? This is something federal authorities have wanted to

:06:25. > :06:28.have in place for many years. We know this mechanism has been delayed

:06:29. > :06:32.again and again to be installed on these trains, so obviously that was

:06:33. > :06:35.one of the first things people pointed to. So despite some of the

:06:36. > :06:42.causes that have led to this, would that mechanism not have saved

:06:43. > :06:45.passengers from going through this ordeal? And I think when the

:06:46. > :06:50.investigation comes out, that will be one of the key possible findings

:06:51. > :06:55.as well. Thank you very much. We're just going to show you she is not

:06:56. > :06:57.the only person talking about the technology. Quite a lot of tweets on

:06:58. > :07:14.social media about this very theme. So clearly that will be part of the

:07:15. > :07:16.conversation after this very dramatic train crash.

:07:17. > :07:22.The Indian Army says it launched strikes against suspected militants

:07:23. > :07:27.along the de facto border with Pakistan in Kashmir.

:07:28. > :07:31.Both India and Pakistan claim Kashmir in its entirety but each

:07:32. > :07:37.You may know this is a dispute that's been running for decades

:07:38. > :07:40.and has seen an increase in tension in recent weeks.

:07:41. > :07:42.Indian authorities say their aim was to prevent attacks being planned

:07:43. > :08:01.Significant casualties have been caused to the terrorists and those

:08:02. > :08:07.trying to support them. The operations aimed at neutralising the

:08:08. > :08:08.terrorists have since ceased. We do not have any plans for further

:08:09. > :08:12.continuation of the operations. Pakistan has given a very

:08:13. > :08:26.different account of events. Former BBC India correspondent

:08:27. > :08:31.Andrew Whitehead spoke to me The situation is exceptionally

:08:32. > :08:35.tense, it's probably as bad as it's been for ten or 15 years,

:08:36. > :08:38.and I think there's a real danger A difficult question,

:08:39. > :08:41.I know, but why so tense now? Because this is a division,

:08:42. > :08:45.a conflict that's gone on, at least a war of

:08:46. > :08:48.words, for decades. Well, there's been a lot

:08:49. > :08:50.of turbulence within Clashes between Indian security

:08:51. > :08:53.forces and protesters, unarmed protesters,

:08:54. > :08:55.largely throwing stones. Then about ten days ago,

:08:56. > :09:00.there was a major attack 18 Indian soldiers were killed

:09:01. > :09:06.and India believes that Pakistan And it's in response to that that

:09:07. > :09:13.India has claimed it has taken out this surgical response

:09:14. > :09:16.across the line. For our viewers across the world,

:09:17. > :09:20.they may be thinking, you've got two nuclear-armed states

:09:21. > :09:22.here, getting very angry. I think there is every sign that

:09:23. > :09:32.both India and Pakistan are fairly Both are keenly aware that both

:09:33. > :09:41.countries have nuclear arsenals. But when you do have clashes

:09:42. > :09:44.and clearly soldiers dying, perhaps on both sides of the line,

:09:45. > :09:47.then there is always the danger When is the last time

:09:48. > :09:51.there were any serious talks Well, it depends what you mean

:09:52. > :09:56.by serious negotiations in Kashmir. Some would say it's been decades

:09:57. > :09:58.since there were At the moment, there's no real

:09:59. > :10:04.sign of talks either between India and Pakistan,

:10:05. > :10:06.there have been some contacts, but not real talks, nor indeed any

:10:07. > :10:10.sign of talks between the Indian government and the separatists

:10:11. > :10:13.within Kashmir, who want the Kashmir Valley in particular

:10:14. > :10:15.to become independent It's difficult to say how much

:10:16. > :10:21.support they have but there's certainly a strong strand of opinion

:10:22. > :10:24.in Indian Kashmir that wants Kashmir Can the UK have its cake and eat it,

:10:25. > :10:31.by keeping open trade with the European Union,

:10:32. > :10:34.even as it leaves the EU and shuts Well, today Liam Fox,

:10:35. > :10:43.the new International He declared that trade

:10:44. > :10:48.with the EU can be "at least as free" as it is now,

:10:49. > :10:50.even without the free movement But Italian Prime Minister Matteo

:10:51. > :10:54.Renzi told the BBC that Britain just can't have full access to the single

:10:55. > :11:11.European market on those terms. Personally, I will be very ready to

:11:12. > :11:14.work with Theresa May and other colleagues to support this very

:11:15. > :11:21.difficult process, because it is the first time, so it's not easy. There

:11:22. > :11:28.is the need to sort as soon as possible the problem of the UK

:11:29. > :11:35.because we have talked for the last two years about Brexit, since the

:11:36. > :11:38.first month of 2015 up to today. We have discussed a lot of times about

:11:39. > :11:41.Brexit so now it is time to solve the question. That was the view from

:11:42. > :11:43.Italy. The British International Trade

:11:44. > :11:45.Secretary says he's being realistic because it's in the interests

:11:46. > :11:48.of both the UK and the EU for the terms of their trading

:11:49. > :12:00.relationship to remain as open We are leaving the EU. We are not

:12:01. > :12:05.leaving Europe. And we're ready to take our place in an open, liberal

:12:06. > :12:11.and competitive globalised environment. Flexibility and agility

:12:12. > :12:17.will be key to success in the globalised Europe. Where we can

:12:18. > :12:21.trade at any time with any market that is functionally similar without

:12:22. > :12:25.it having to be geographically approximate.

:12:26. > :12:27.Rob Watson, our UK political correspondent,

:12:28. > :12:31.unravelled the the different narratives we're hearing.

:12:32. > :12:38.I'm going to give you what I would like to think is a somewhat crude,

:12:39. > :12:41.straight talking but accurate summary of where we are.

:12:42. > :12:45.Essentially, Britain is saying, we want all the things that we love

:12:46. > :12:49.about the European Union in the future, such as free trade and being

:12:50. > :12:53.good mates, but we don't want the stuff we don't like, such as mass

:12:54. > :12:57.immigration and paying EU membership. The EU response has

:12:58. > :13:00.been, rather generally, we are sorry you're going, we still want to be

:13:01. > :13:04.mates but you've got to be kidding thinking you will get a deal that

:13:05. > :13:08.leaves you better off out! And another couple of quick points about

:13:09. > :13:12.where we stand - is the UK Government does have a coherent

:13:13. > :13:19.vision of Forte Post Brexit Britain looks like, they are certainly not

:13:20. > :13:25.letting know what it looks like! Theresa May didn't want us to leave.

:13:26. > :13:28.So how is it going down? The ordinary voters are being remarkably

:13:29. > :13:33.patient about it but a lot of the key groups and sectors who wanted

:13:34. > :13:38.Britain to remain, such as here in Oxford, for example, the university,

:13:39. > :13:43.or big business in general, they are thinking, crikey, we would like some

:13:44. > :13:48.answers sooner rather than later. And the worst thing for educational

:13:49. > :13:53.institutions or businesses wanting investment is the uncertainty that

:13:54. > :13:57.could go on for years? Absolutely. Question everybody is asking

:13:58. > :14:03.themselves in the UK is whether you trigger Article 50, and whether that

:14:04. > :14:07.is two years before we leave, and the betting that Theresa May will

:14:08. > :14:11.want to do it earlier, but I go back to that point that it is becoming

:14:12. > :14:14.clearer to everybody that the Government doesn't have a really

:14:15. > :14:19.detailed plan yet. It is very much feeling its way as it goes along,

:14:20. > :14:22.and what you are seeing from our European partners is that they are

:14:23. > :14:31.sitting back and, let's face it, they are still rather cross with the

:14:32. > :14:34.UK. They are saying, look, when you figure out what you want, please

:14:35. > :14:36.come and let us know. Just to throw something back at you. You don't

:14:37. > :14:40.reveal your hand when you are a poker player, do you? And it could

:14:41. > :14:46.be that the ministers know very well what their strategy is but they

:14:47. > :14:49.don't want it to play out on 24-hour news? Well, if they do have a

:14:50. > :14:53.strategy, they certainly aren't sharing it, and there may be

:14:54. > :14:59.elements you don't want to reveal, not revealing your hand, but also an

:15:00. > :15:03.element of making it up as we go along, because you have to remind

:15:04. > :15:10.yourself, Britain has never taken such a step like this in 40 years.

:15:11. > :15:13.It is one of the biggest diplomatic, security and political moves we've

:15:14. > :15:17.ever made, and the idea it was going to be done and dusted in a few

:15:18. > :15:21.months with everybody patting us on the back was always for the birds!

:15:22. > :15:24.Still to come, Kenya is using Chinese money to lay new tracks,

:15:25. > :15:26.but not everyone is happy about the impact, especially

:15:27. > :15:36.The independent inquiry into historical child sex abuse has

:15:37. > :15:41.suffered another setback, after news a senior lawyer has quit.

:15:42. > :15:44.Elizabeth Prochaska's resignation comes just a day

:15:45. > :15:47.after the lead counsel, Ben Emmerson, QC was suspended.

:15:48. > :15:50.Three Chairs of the inquiry have also stepped down

:15:51. > :15:54.Prime Minister Theresa May, who set up the inquiry

:15:55. > :15:59.when she was Home Secretary, said it was important

:16:00. > :16:12.The current Home Secretary has made clear that the original terms of

:16:13. > :16:16.reference were the right ones and I think that is important. But we

:16:17. > :16:20.should always remember why it is that the inquiry was set up in the

:16:21. > :16:24.first place, and when those terms of reference were set, they were agreed

:16:25. > :16:29.with victims and survivors, and it is those people who are at the part

:16:30. > :16:33.of -- heart of this inquiry. For too many years, too many people have

:16:34. > :16:34.been raising their voice, saying what has happened to them, and

:16:35. > :16:45.people have not been listening. This is Outside Source live

:16:46. > :16:48.from the BBC newsroom. Our lead story is one person has

:16:49. > :16:51.died and more than a hundred more are injured after a commuter train

:16:52. > :16:54.ploughed into a station BBC World Service reports that

:16:55. > :17:01.international dignataries, including the former US

:17:02. > :17:04.President Bill Clinton, have been arriving in Jerusalem

:17:05. > :17:06.to pay their respects to Shimon The former Prime Minister

:17:07. > :17:10.and President and died this Among the most-read on the BBC

:17:11. > :17:29.website, a US-based nonprofit group has launched the rainbow flag into

:17:30. > :17:31.space via a high-altitude balloon. The balloon captured video

:17:32. > :17:33.with a camera as it Organisers said they wanted

:17:34. > :17:39.to declare space gay-friendly, Stop trying to turn over the police

:17:40. > :17:56.vehicle immediately! The Missouri town was rocked

:17:57. > :17:59.by riots in 2014 after a white police officer was not charged over

:18:00. > :18:02.the death of an unarmed The events prompted

:18:03. > :18:04.President Obama's government to invest in more body

:18:05. > :18:06.cameras for police. New research shows that complaints

:18:07. > :18:15.against police fell by a massive 93% The study, led by the University

:18:16. > :18:20.of Cambridge's Institute of Criminology, followed 2,000

:18:21. > :18:35.officers in the Britain and America. We believe that the camera has an

:18:36. > :18:39.effect on the behaviour of officers and the people they interact with,

:18:40. > :18:44.and it seems that once the camera is on, people change the way that they

:18:45. > :18:47.behave, and it seems it is contagious, because not only do the

:18:48. > :18:54.complaints go down, but the officers -- with the officers with the

:18:55. > :18:54.cameras, but it also went down for officers who didn't have the

:18:55. > :18:57.cameras. More than 16 million

:18:58. > :19:02.people here in the UK have That's according to a study

:19:03. > :19:08.by the Money Advice Service. In these five areas of the country,

:19:09. > :19:13.Northern Ireland, the West Midlands, Yorkshire and Humber,

:19:14. > :19:16.North East England and Wales, more than half the adult

:19:17. > :19:34.population actually have less The average income in the UK is

:19:35. > :19:38.roughly ?27,000, so this figure of ?100 is ready quite know. What the

:19:39. > :19:42.report is saying is that four in ten UK adults struggle to put that away,

:19:43. > :19:49.and in fact in some parts that rises to 50%, so we're talking about 17

:19:50. > :19:53.million people in the UK who aren't able to put away and don't have

:19:54. > :19:58.savings of more than ?100. And when you look at the map for this study,

:19:59. > :20:05.there does seem to be something of a North-south divide, with London

:20:06. > :20:09.moving away? That's right. This report broke the figures down into

:20:10. > :20:12.regions and some regions fared worse than others. So the north-east of

:20:13. > :20:18.England, Yorkshire and Humber, Northern Ireland, Wales - more than

:20:19. > :20:23.these -- these areas have more than 50% of people who didn't have more

:20:24. > :20:26.than ?100 of savings. In the South things fared better but the message

:20:27. > :20:31.coming out is there are a lot of people who don't have much savings.

:20:32. > :20:33.Samsung is making headlines for all the wrong reasons again.

:20:34. > :20:36.It's in talks with American consumer watchdogs after a lawsuit over

:20:37. > :20:40.Earlier this month it recalled its flagship Galaxy Note 7

:20:41. > :20:41.smartphone after faulty batteries meant some phones

:20:42. > :20:54.Let's get more from Samira Hussain in New York.

:20:55. > :21:01.more about the exploding washing machines. I can see you now! It is

:21:02. > :21:06.not a very good time to be an executive at Samsung. So now it is

:21:07. > :21:11.embroiled in yet another problem, where some of its products are

:21:12. > :21:17.exploding. This time it is the front loading washing machines, and they

:21:18. > :21:21.are actually producing lawsuits which are pending in the United

:21:22. > :21:26.States. These are washing machines which were purchased anywhere

:21:27. > :21:29.between 2011 up to April of this year, so that's a long time, but it

:21:30. > :21:36.only affects machines purchased in North America. So what the US

:21:37. > :21:39.consumer protection agency is doing, basically the watchdog that protects

:21:40. > :21:43.consumers, they are suggesting people be very careful when using

:21:44. > :21:48.those machines and that they check to see whether their machines are

:21:49. > :21:54.part of the potential affected ones, and also don't overload your machine

:21:55. > :21:57.when using it. So smartphones, now washing machines. Obviously not

:21:58. > :22:04.connected but it doesn't do a lot for your brand reliability, does it?

:22:05. > :22:08.Exactly. A few issues here. Firstly it is the name sung song and being

:22:09. > :22:14.associated with everything that explodes. -- Samsung. Social media

:22:15. > :22:19.is having a field day with this! When it comes to the smartphone, it

:22:20. > :22:24.is a lot more significant because that recall happened just as Apple

:22:25. > :22:29.had released its newest iPhone, and now there are some analysts who

:22:30. > :22:33.believe that as a result of this, it is possible Apple will eclipse

:22:34. > :22:36.Samsung in the race war in smartphones, and it's already a very

:22:37. > :22:41.competitive market, and in terms of margins with how much you make from

:22:42. > :22:45.these smartphones, it is very small, so it makes that even more

:22:46. > :22:48.competitive. We can feel the tension! Thank you.

:22:49. > :22:49.Let's talk about takeaway coffee cups now.

:22:50. > :22:51.If you assume they're nearly all recycled, you're wrong.

:22:52. > :22:53.Billions of them are thrown away each year.

:22:54. > :23:02.So a campaign group has launched this initiative today.

:23:03. > :23:07.It's what they call a "cupifesto", calling on drinks retailers

:23:08. > :23:09.and politicians to encourage us to get reusable cups.

:23:10. > :23:21.One suggestion is to introduce a surcharge for takeaway cups.

:23:22. > :23:23.Kenya is building a new railway, and China is providing

:23:24. > :23:28.Costing billions, and due to cut across Nairobi's National Park,

:23:29. > :23:31.critics are concerned about the high cost and tough working conditions.

:23:32. > :23:36.Our Africa correspondent Alastair Leithead sent this report.

:23:37. > :23:45.For hundreds of miles, the lines are being laid, through the Savannah to

:23:46. > :23:49.the sea and to Nairobi. This is being built by a Chinese company

:23:50. > :23:54.with billions of borrowed Chinese money which will have to be paid

:23:55. > :23:57.back. But now the construction is encroaching into Nairobi national

:23:58. > :24:06.park, the voices of protest are getting louder. Once they introduced

:24:07. > :24:12.the railway there, the park becomes real estate, and they will do

:24:13. > :24:16.whatever they want to do with it. I've seen it elsewhere. I've seen

:24:17. > :24:21.people abuse public resources in this country. Nairobi is the world's

:24:22. > :24:25.only city to have a national park within its boundary but it is

:24:26. > :24:29.growing fast. Roads and housing estates are already surrounding the

:24:30. > :24:33.animals. This is the route the railway will take. It cuts right

:24:34. > :24:38.across the centre of Nairobi national park for six kilometres and

:24:39. > :24:42.it will be raised up on pillows, and although it will take 18 months to

:24:43. > :24:46.build, the Kenyan wildlife service says the animals are more resilient

:24:47. > :24:52.to the work than you might think. They chose this route as other more

:24:53. > :24:57.expensive plans would permanently destroyed parkland. We were between

:24:58. > :25:02.a rock and a hard place. Either give up 50 hectares, increase the cost by

:25:03. > :25:09.50% or have the least obtrusive bridge across the park. Kenny's

:25:10. > :25:16.first cross-country railway opened in 1901. -- Kenya. It was dubbed the

:25:17. > :25:21.lunatic line because it cost so much money, and hundreds of workers were

:25:22. > :25:25.killed by man eating lions. Critics see today's lined in a similar

:25:26. > :25:34.light. We don't need it. It is the most expensive project, single

:25:35. > :25:39.project, that we've done. It's not viable, it is not economically

:25:40. > :25:41.viable. Either now or in the future. The track lane is heading towards

:25:42. > :25:48.the Ugandan border and beyond, designed of the regional railway,

:25:49. > :25:53.and now neighbouring countries have different plans. It is lunacy or

:25:54. > :25:55.otherwise will be decided by how much freight it ultimately halls. --

:25:56. > :26:02.the lunacy of it.