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:00:08. > :00:20.Hello and welcome to Outside Source and welcome to the European council

:00:21. > :00:26.in Brussels, where the latest EU summit is under way. Theresa May has

:00:27. > :00:30.seched a warm welcome from Jean-Claude Juncker and the other

:00:31. > :00:35.leaders. This what is he said when she arrived. The UK is leaving the

:00:36. > :00:40.EU, but we will continue to play a full role until we leave and we will

:00:41. > :00:45.be a strong and dependable partner after we have left. Donald Trump is

:00:46. > :00:48.facing fresh allegations of inappropriate sexual behaviour. We

:00:49. > :00:56.will bring you details of that and we will look back at the final

:00:57. > :01:01.televised presidential debate, the biggest talking point was when Mr

:01:02. > :01:08.Trump was asked if he will accept the election result. I will tell you

:01:09. > :01:19.at the time. I will keep you in suspence. Suspension. We report from

:01:20. > :01:25.Iraq and as you're watching, if you have any questions on the stories we

:01:26. > :01:48.are covering, but in particular the EU summit, do get in touch.

:01:49. > :01:54.Officially there are three main subjects on the agenda at this EU

:01:55. > :02:01.summit - trade, immigration and Russia. But inevitably every

:02:02. > :02:04.discussion is in the context of Brexit, which everyone knows is

:02:05. > :02:09.coming down the track. So the UK is a particular focus for everyone

:02:10. > :02:13.gathered here in this vast European council building in the centre of

:02:14. > :02:19.Brussels. I have been spending the last few hours try to ask some of

:02:20. > :02:25.the most senior figures to comment on the state of this institution and

:02:26. > :02:36.where Brexit fits into it. I did better in some cases than in others.

:02:37. > :02:43.Mr Kenny, BBC News. Mr Kenny. BBC News? BBC News, do you think it is

:02:44. > :02:48.ineever tab that the UK will -- inevitable that the UK will leave

:02:49. > :02:52.the single market. They have decided to leave the single market and they

:02:53. > :03:02.full access to the single market after leaving. That is only possible

:03:03. > :03:07.biceping the rules. -- biceping the rules. Do you think it is inevitable

:03:08. > :03:11.there is a hard Brexit. I don't know the compromise on free movement.

:03:12. > :03:20.Because no negotiation without notification. Some say the reason

:03:21. > :03:25.there will be compromise Germany's economy relies on the UK. I don't

:03:26. > :03:30.know such people. Do you think you will stand as the German Chancellor.

:03:31. > :03:35.He didn't want to answer that question. That is Martin Schulz the

:03:36. > :03:42.president of the European Parliament. BBC news, what do you

:03:43. > :03:48.expect to hear from Theresa May? Good afternoon. A question in

:03:49. > :03:55.English, do you think that a preoccupation with unity is

:03:56. > :04:18.preventing strong measures on migration for example?

:04:19. > :04:23.What will you say to Theresa May over dinner, what is your message

:04:24. > :04:39.from Bulgaria to the U can. K? Well, sources at No 10 Downing

:04:40. > :04:43.Street have been speaking to the BBC telling us that Theresa May today

:04:44. > :04:49.has been insisting to the other 27 leaders that the UK intends to still

:04:50. > :04:53.play a full role in EU summits and negotiations and said while she

:04:54. > :05:00.doesn't mind the 27 other members meeting, as they did in Bratislava,

:05:01. > :05:10.she has said if they're taking any decision that have an impact on all

:05:11. > :05:15.members, the UK needs to be involved. We may get more while we

:05:16. > :05:23.are on air. If you have any questions about the EU summit, the

:05:24. > :05:30.best way to reach us is the hashtag, BBC OS. Our e-mail address will be

:05:31. > :05:35.on the screen. Michael says what will happen with the border of the

:05:36. > :05:39.Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland. The short answer is we

:05:40. > :05:45.don't know. But the governments in London and Dublin have acknowledged

:05:46. > :05:51.it is a sensitive issue that they intend to take seriously. Now back

:05:52. > :05:57.to European politics in a minute. But now American politics, I am sure

:05:58. > :06:03.a lot of you saw the final televised presidential debate. During it,

:06:04. > :06:08.Donald Trump said he treated women as well as anyone does. But today

:06:09. > :06:20.fresh allegation of inappropriate sexual behaviour. A woman called

:06:21. > :06:27.Karena Virginia gave a press conference. He walked up and reached

:06:28. > :06:44.his right arm and grabbed my right arm. Then his hand touched the right

:06:45. > :06:56.inside of my breast. I was in shock. I flinched. Don't you know who I am?

:06:57. > :07:13.Don't you know who I am? That's what he said to me. Let's turn to the

:07:14. > :07:18.most talked about moment in that televised debate.

:07:19. > :07:20.She should never have been allowed to run

:07:21. > :07:22.for the presidency, based on

:07:23. > :07:24.what she did with e-mails and so many other things.

:07:25. > :07:27.But, sir, there is a tradition in this country, in fact

:07:28. > :07:30.one of the the prides of this country is the peaceful transition

:07:31. > :07:32.of power and that no matter how hard fought

:07:33. > :07:33.a campaign is, that at

:07:34. > :07:37.the end of the campaign that the loser concedes to the winner -

:07:38. > :07:39.not saying that you're necessarily going

:07:40. > :07:43.to be the loser or the winner - but that the loser concedes to the

:07:44. > :07:45.winner and that the country comes together in part

:07:46. > :07:49.Are you saying you're not prepared to commit to

:07:50. > :07:54.What I'm saying is that I will tell you at the time.

:07:55. > :07:58.Chris, let me respond to that, because that's horrifying.

:07:59. > :08:00.You know every time Donald thinks things are not going

:08:01. > :08:07.in his direction, he claims whatever it is is rigged against him.

:08:08. > :08:14.Well this is how Donald Trump addressed that particular

:08:15. > :08:28.controversy during a rally earlier on in Ohio. I will totally accept

:08:29. > :08:41.the results of this great and historic presidential election. If I

:08:42. > :08:46.win slam! Our correspondent is live from Phoenix, give us your thoughts

:08:47. > :08:51.on that debate and where it leaves the election campaigns. Well, I

:08:52. > :08:58.think if Donald Trump was trying to expand his base and to make his last

:08:59. > :09:04.pitch to the American public, he got way off track in that debate. The

:09:05. > :09:10.headlines are that he initially refused to say whether he would

:09:11. > :09:15.accept the results of November 8th balloting. That is a very dangerous

:09:16. > :09:22.proposition. I was in the spin room talking to Republican office holders

:09:23. > :09:25.and they were uncomfortable by it. Republican politics have to --

:09:26. > :09:31.politicians have to run with their name on the ballot. Their careers

:09:32. > :09:35.depend on people having faith on the system and their opponents conceding

:09:36. > :09:38.defeat if they are beaten and this makes for a very dangerous

:09:39. > :09:42.proposition. Everyone is talking Ake that. -- about that. Any points that

:09:43. > :09:53.Donald Trump tried to make during that... Debate by that one exchange.

:09:54. > :10:01.Thank you very much. We will talk to you next week I am sure. There is

:10:02. > :10:05.full coverage on the US presidential election online on the BBC app or

:10:06. > :10:10.web-site. Now one of the main stories this week, the efforts to

:10:11. > :10:18.retake Mosul in Iraq from the Islamic State group. If we bring up

:10:19. > :10:22.the map we can show that Kurdish troops are moving to the city from

:10:23. > :10:29.the east and Iraqi troops moving from the south. Our correspondent

:10:30. > :10:34.has been with the Iraqi troops all week.

:10:35. > :10:36.The fight for Mosul is being led by Iraqi forces,

:10:37. > :10:40.but it is being done with America's help.

:10:41. > :10:47.Escorted by Apache gunships who travelled with the most

:10:48. > :10:49.senior coalition commander in Iraq, General Steven Townsend,

:10:50. > :10:53.now keeping a close eye on the battle.

:10:54. > :10:55.The BBC's the first media to be given this access

:10:56. > :11:02.Our first stop, an austere base where the

:11:03. > :11:03.US is supporting Iraqi and Peshmerga forces

:11:04. > :11:20.Their artillery and the shells are being used to target so-called

:11:21. > :11:25.There are days where we can impose our will, and there are days

:11:26. > :11:32.This is a big operation and a long war.

:11:33. > :11:36.When you pull back and look at it, he is what I see.

:11:37. > :11:40.I see the Iraqi security forces have encircled Mosul, and

:11:41. > :11:47.they are imposing their will on the enemy in Mosul now.

:11:48. > :12:03.There are 5000 US troops in Iraq, but not directly in the fight.

:12:04. > :12:05.Nor Lieutenant Townsend tells me is it an American imposed plan.

:12:06. > :12:07.But he is in close contact with Iraqi commanders.

:12:08. > :12:10.At his next meeting with Iraqi's Chief of Defence staff,

:12:11. > :12:12.he looks for reassurances that they have enough

:12:13. > :12:14.Defeating IS in Mosul won't be easy.

:12:15. > :12:20.They are adaptable, creative, cunning.

:12:21. > :12:26.We have seen all kinds of examples of that.

:12:27. > :12:29.It is a challenging opponent. They saw people's heads off on TV.

:12:30. > :12:37.They burn people alive in cages, they crucify people,

:12:38. > :12:39.and they drive over people on the street

:12:40. > :12:43.Are they using human shields in there?

:12:44. > :12:46.Yeah, they are probably using human shields.

:12:47. > :12:49.This is an opponent that has to be stopped.

:12:50. > :12:53.He won't be drawn on how long it will take, but with Mosul

:12:54. > :13:04.in the distance, any victory still looks like some way off.

:13:05. > :13:15.Just looking through your questions, Jeremy is watching in the south-east

:13:16. > :13:19.of England, saying, what are the chances of an acrimonious divorce

:13:20. > :13:26.from the EU and the two coming back together. I have given up thinking

:13:27. > :13:32.what will happen. What I would say is that there are still very senior

:13:33. > :13:40.people within the EU who consider no Brexit to be a possibility, a small

:13:41. > :13:45.possibility, but a possibility. Last week Donald Tusk said the two

:13:46. > :13:52.options available are hard Brexitno Brexit. Others think as more details

:13:53. > :13:55.emerges, Parliament will demand a reverse. But there is no prospect of

:13:56. > :14:01.that at the moment. Theresa May says is she is here to tell the other 27

:14:02. > :14:05.leaders the UK is definitely leaving and there is nothing to suggest that

:14:06. > :14:11.that is not going to happen. Keep the questions coming whether by

:14:12. > :14:13.e-mail or social media and we will continue our coverage of the latest

:14:14. > :14:29.EU summit. A historic moment that many of his

:14:30. > :14:36.victims have waited for for decades. The former dictator in the dock. As

:14:37. > :14:46.he sad down, obedient enough. Dawn and as the sun breaks through

:14:47. > :14:52.outside Korum, it lights up a famine. The depressing conclusion in

:14:53. > :15:01.Argentina today it is cheaper to paper your walls with money. We have

:15:02. > :15:05.had controversy in the past with Great Britain, but as good friends,

:15:06. > :15:15.we have always found a good and lasting solution. Concord bows out

:15:16. > :15:18.in style after more than three decade s in service, it taxis home

:15:19. > :15:32.one last time. Welcome back to out, live from the

:15:33. > :15:36.European council as the latest EU summit begins. The first that

:15:37. > :15:40.Theresa May as UK Parliament has attended. We are going to get into

:15:41. > :15:45.more detail in a minute. The other main stories here from the BBC:

:15:46. > :15:50.Donald Trump is facing fresh allegations about sexually

:15:51. > :16:00.inappropriate behaviour. A woman says he groebed her at a -- groped

:16:01. > :16:08.her at a tennis tournament. Yesterday Mr Trump dismissed his

:16:09. > :16:16.accusers as liar. Forces are said to be ahead of shed rule in attempts

:16:17. > :16:26.retake Mosul. The 28 leaders of the EU are having dinner. They started

:16:27. > :16:34.with pan fried scallops and main course crown of lamb and topped with

:16:35. > :16:37.iced vanilla parfait. The leaders aren't here to enjoy nice food,

:16:38. > :16:42.they're here to talk about the serious matters facing the EU. The

:16:43. > :16:45.behaviour of Russia on the international stage, trade and

:16:46. > :16:53.immigration and of course Brexit. Theresa May is here, this is what

:16:54. > :16:58.she said earlier. I'm here with a clear message. The UK will continue

:16:59. > :17:02.to play a full role until we leave and we will be a strong partner

:17:03. > :17:06.after we have left. It is in the interests of the UK and the EU that

:17:07. > :17:13.we continue to work closely together, including at this summit.

:17:14. > :17:20.Here is the Maltese Prime Minister saying what he expects to hear from

:17:21. > :17:26.Theresa May. I wouldn't expect to hear a specific plan with all the

:17:27. > :17:30.intricacies. I would expect a list of priorities, what the priority is

:17:31. > :17:35.- whether it is membership of the single market, whether it is

:17:36. > :17:39.immigration and the realisation that the two are mutually exclusive. You

:17:40. > :17:44.can't have the cake and eat it basically. I look forward to see at

:17:45. > :17:48.least a first negotiating stand that will be put forward once there is a

:17:49. > :17:56.notification. But I don't expect anyone of us to start negotiating

:17:57. > :18:00.tonight. That is from an interview conducted by Katya Adler. She is

:18:01. > :18:07.very much worth following on Twitter. She updated us on what the

:18:08. > :18:12.French president said, he said if Theresa May wants a hard Brexit we

:18:13. > :18:20.will give her hard negotiations. Question people have been asking is

:18:21. > :18:24.why would a country like France or Germany push for tough negotiations

:18:25. > :18:32.when Britain is an important export market. Why would they jeopardise

:18:33. > :18:38.that with tough negotiations. Katia has been helping me understand that

:18:39. > :18:43.point. No one is driving a hard bargain yet. They're flexing their

:18:44. > :18:56.muscles before the negotiations start. Brexit is not formally being

:18:57. > :19:02.discussed. In Germany, in the UK there is not a understanding of the

:19:03. > :19:07.relationship that the other countries have with the EU it is

:19:08. > :19:12.about politics and emotion and with Germany it is about history and

:19:13. > :19:18.wanting to put the World War two past behind. If it comes to a choice

:19:19. > :19:24.between UK cash and European politics for Germany, they will

:19:25. > :19:34.choose the future of the EU. Now I have a couple of guests. Peter

:19:35. > :19:40.Muller and I have an e-mail saying how are BBC reporters being treated

:19:41. > :19:46.by other EU press. There is no hostility. Talk to us about how your

:19:47. > :19:51.countries approach Theresa May. What do you think their tactics are here?

:19:52. > :19:58.Everybody is waiting to hear from Theresa May when this Brexit

:19:59. > :20:03.negotiation will start and when she talks of hard Brexit. For Germany a

:20:04. > :20:08.hard Brexit would not be good news, if you think of the business

:20:09. > :20:15.environment that is involved. For Denmark, their approach has been to

:20:16. > :20:19.make up a unit that will win quickly after the referendum was made clear

:20:20. > :20:24.to make sure that Danish interests are thought of in the negotiations

:20:25. > :20:30.and one of these interests is to maintain the inner market and there

:20:31. > :20:33.is a feeling if we give into the free movement issue that will be

:20:34. > :20:38.unravelling the whole project and this is the problem. Is there an

:20:39. > :20:41.appetite from the people who consume your journalism to see the UK

:20:42. > :20:47.punished in some way for this decision? I don't think so actually.

:20:48. > :20:53.Actually to if you see what maybe behind the Brexit vote of British

:20:54. > :20:58.people, they're concerned that are shared in other countries. If you

:20:59. > :21:02.look at Germany or other countries, there is a populist vote going up in

:21:03. > :21:08.my country, the first time after the war, so you can't say the sentiment

:21:09. > :21:17.which might be behind Brexit is a British sentiment alone. So no, no

:21:18. > :21:23.need to punish the Brits. We will talk more later. I want to turn the

:21:24. > :21:29.trade. This is one of the three main issues on the agenda here and Sita

:21:30. > :21:35.is a world you will hear. A trade deal between Canada and EU and it

:21:36. > :21:40.has been three years in the making and they can't get it over the line.

:21:41. > :21:44.Let me explain what its about. Those supporting it suggest it could bring

:21:45. > :21:50.the two markets together in a way that would boost the trade between

:21:51. > :22:02.the two by 20%. There are some who argue that could boost the EU's GDP

:22:03. > :22:08.by $13 billion a year. The catch is, if I bring up the map, Belgium is

:22:09. > :22:11.not the obstacle, a regional Parliament is the obstacle. It is

:22:12. > :22:17.refusing to sign the deal and fit does not like it, the EU cannot

:22:18. > :22:24.adopt it. This is causing frustration and having an impact on

:22:25. > :22:28.the EU's reputation as a free trade proponent. Our correspondent is live

:22:29. > :22:34.from New York. We have two big deals, one with Canada, one with the

:22:35. > :22:41.US and both are proving very hard work? Yes many people are looking to

:22:42. > :22:46.the deal between Canada and a EU as the precursor of what we may see in

:22:47. > :22:49.terms of negotiations between the United States and the European

:22:50. > :22:53.Union. And of course, on both sides of the Atlantic with regard to the

:22:54. > :23:00.Sita deal there are concerns. There is a lot of pressure on Canada and

:23:01. > :23:04.its Prime Minister to try and get this deal signed and you're even

:23:05. > :23:09.seeing he has dispatched his international minister for trade to

:23:10. > :23:13.speak with leaders in Europe, just ahead of World Trade Organisation

:23:14. > :23:20.meeting to try and get this resolved. There is the Wallonia

:23:21. > :23:29.issue and visa requirements with Romania is also a concern. Thank you

:23:30. > :23:35.very much. Let's talk about this with our two guests. On free trade,

:23:36. > :23:39.the EU does need to understand that there are people who are not

:23:40. > :23:44.enthusiastic about this any more. That is true. That you need to

:23:45. > :23:49.persuade the population of Europe that free trade is a good thing and

:23:50. > :23:56.for the same reason they will discuss the instruments to deal with

:23:57. > :24:01.countries that use state aid to undermine, for example the steel

:24:02. > :24:06.industry in Europe has gone wrong. We have seen protests in Germany

:24:07. > :24:12.over this, do you think what has happened with Canada could inform

:24:13. > :24:16.what happens with the UK? As we have been discussing Brexit, the UK

:24:17. > :24:21.should look at how difficult it is to actually bring through a sensible

:24:22. > :24:28.trade deal that the EU is doing with a third country, I mean a country

:24:29. > :24:36.like Canada, if you can't do a deal with Canada, you can't do it with

:24:37. > :24:42.anybody. Some Some people will be amazed that the Parliament of

:24:43. > :24:47.Wallonia can stop this deal. We are all wondering that, maybe Belgium

:24:48. > :24:51.should look at their national laws. And the commissioners didn't have to

:24:52. > :24:56.ask all Parliaments to ratify this. They could have gone through with

:24:57. > :25:04.it. But they wanted to make it more democratic. John says, is the Canada

:25:05. > :25:10.deal looking possible. It will happen? That is what everyone is

:25:11. > :25:15.saying. We have ambassadors coming together and not emergency session

:25:16. > :25:24.in the Parliament of Wallonia. But I wouldn't be too sure. Gulf stream

:25:25. > :25:28.asked are there questions about the Schengen zone, internal movement in

:25:29. > :25:33.the EU. Denmark is a supporter of that. It is important for our

:25:34. > :25:38.industry to be able to move across border. But we see a growing voice

:25:39. > :25:42.against it. Thank you. Lots of questions coming in. Use our e-mail

:25:43. > :25:48.or hashtag on find me on social media. We will work through as many

:25:49. > :25:52.as we can. As we get updates live from the latest EU summit, I will

:25:53. > :25:57.bring you them. See you in a minute.