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:00:14. > :00:22.Hello, I'm Ros Atkins, this is Outside Source.

:00:23. > :00:30.The Syrian government says it has retaken Aleppo and 35,000 people

:00:31. > :00:37.left in the last week. That was achieved with Russia's help. Today,

:00:38. > :00:46.the commander to Russia says they are doing a live trine exercise.

:00:47. > :00:54.This is not the conduct of a nation that wants to be a superpower.

:00:55. > :00:57.The fingerprints of the man suspected of the Berlin attack have

:00:58. > :01:05.been found inside the truck that was used.

:01:06. > :01:13.Donald Trump has sent tweets saying the US must strengthen its nuclear

:01:14. > :01:20.weapons. If you want to get in touch you can use our hashtag on the

:01:21. > :01:33.screen and my social media contacts as well.

:01:34. > :01:41.In the last few hours in the BBC newsroom, this claim came through

:01:42. > :01:46.from the Syrian government, that it had retaken Aleppo entirely, as the

:01:47. > :01:48.last group of rebel fighters had been evacuated. We understand this

:01:49. > :01:53.group who were not just the fighters but their families as well, had been

:01:54. > :01:57.holed up in a small enclave in Aleppo but they were finally

:01:58. > :02:01.evacuated on Thursday. That was negotiated under a deal which gives

:02:02. > :02:09.the army and its allies full control of the city after almost four years

:02:10. > :02:13.of fighting. We can bring in the BBC correspondent in Beirut James

:02:14. > :02:17.Longman. I guess Aleppo fell a few weeks back so this is more about the

:02:18. > :02:22.symbolism of the moment? That is absolutely right. The huge moment

:02:23. > :02:27.for the Syrian regime and they have been making the most of it. There

:02:28. > :02:32.has been celebratory gunfire heard on the west side of Aleppo. The army

:02:33. > :02:36.are making their way into eastern Aleppo to physically claim it back

:02:37. > :02:41.because this is definitely a war about territory claimed and lost. We

:02:42. > :02:45.know on state television they have put banners up calling this a

:02:46. > :02:51.momentous victory and there has been a statement put out by the army

:02:52. > :02:54.where they said this was a deadly blow to the terrorist project and

:02:55. > :02:58.its supporters. This is the biggest win for the government, resident

:02:59. > :03:04.Bashar al-Assad, in almost six years of war. Aleppo has been contested

:03:05. > :03:08.for four years. The rebels have had control of the East for that amount

:03:09. > :03:12.of time. They were hoping to launch attacks on the rest of Syria are

:03:13. > :03:21.least claim of them urgent centres -- other major centres. Now they

:03:22. > :03:28.have the north-western area of Idlib. The rebels and families of

:03:29. > :03:33.rebels are going up there as evacuees, as refugees in their own

:03:34. > :03:37.country, but also to regroup. Rebel groups will regroup. This war in

:03:38. > :03:41.Syria which has been rolling for nearly six years may be over in

:03:42. > :03:50.Aleppo, but it is certainly not in Syria at large. You mentioned Idlib,

:03:51. > :03:54.how strong are the rebels in that part of Syria and is the Syrian

:03:55. > :04:01.government indicating it will turn its military power towards Idlib

:04:02. > :04:06.instead of Aleppo? They certainly are. The Rebel Alliance in Idlib is

:04:07. > :04:14.mostly dominated by some of the more extreme elements of the Rebel

:04:15. > :04:17.community in Syria. One group is linked to Al-Qaeda which is one of

:04:18. > :04:24.the main groups and another one which is a huge fighting force in

:04:25. > :04:27.Syria which is not designated a terrorist organisation but extreme

:04:28. > :04:32.nonetheless. It is fair to say the colour of the Syrian opposition has

:04:33. > :04:35.over time shifted somewhat, as the government has made a concerted

:04:36. > :04:40.effort to hit the most moderate rebels first, in order to make this

:04:41. > :04:47.claim that it is only terrorists in Syria they are fighting. Today in a

:04:48. > :04:51.statement the rebels say they want to continue to reclaim every span of

:04:52. > :04:56.the homeland so that would suggest that is exactly what they intend to

:04:57. > :04:59.do. This war will continue into the north-west, into the province of

:05:00. > :05:02.Idlib. It does depend on what the Russians decide to do. It is only

:05:03. > :05:09.because of Russian support that the Army was able to reclaim eastern

:05:10. > :05:12.Aleppo but it is likely they will support the president in this

:05:13. > :05:16.endeavour because they have been watching as strikes in Idlib

:05:17. > :05:22.province over the last six to eight months. I think largely the fight

:05:23. > :05:28.for Idlib will begin in earnest in the New Year. James, thank you. And

:05:29. > :05:32.if you want updates on the situation in Syria, you can get it from James

:05:33. > :05:37.on Twitter as he goes about his work. Before the Syrian army made

:05:38. > :05:44.this announcement today, we heard from President Assad. He was already

:05:45. > :05:49.anticipating complete victory in Aleppo. He said the liberation of

:05:50. > :05:52.Aleppo from terrorism is not only a victory for Syria but for all

:05:53. > :06:01.countries fighting terrorism, especially Iran and Russia. The

:06:02. > :06:07.BBC's Jonathan Beale has been discussing Syria with the head of

:06:08. > :06:11.the Army in Europe. What we see is Syria is weapons capabilities. They

:06:12. > :06:15.are using weapons in certain situations which are not necessarily

:06:16. > :06:19.required for that tactical situation, but they are

:06:20. > :06:23.demonstrating that they have these capabilities, practising if you

:06:24. > :06:27.will, a live fire opportunity to experiment and train with all their

:06:28. > :06:32.weapons systems. That is not helpful. And of course, the

:06:33. > :06:38.disregard for Syrian casualties that we see in places like Aleppo, again,

:06:39. > :06:51.that is not the conduct of a nation which wants to be a superpower and

:06:52. > :06:56.be treated like a superpower. We work hard every day to protect

:06:57. > :07:03.our systems. Our systems are under attack from all sorts of different

:07:04. > :07:10.sources. Russian? All sorts of different sources. We have

:07:11. > :07:14.responsibility for training, awareness and procedures to protect

:07:15. > :07:20.our networks. You are worried about definitely. Let's bring you

:07:21. > :07:22.up-to-date on the latest in the Berlin attack.

:07:23. > :07:25.The fingerprints of the main suspect in the Berlin attack have been found

:07:26. > :07:38.TRANSLATION: We have had additional indications today that indeed the

:07:39. > :07:47.strong suspect is by all likelihood the offender. We found in the

:07:48. > :07:51.driver's cab fingerprints and we also have other indications pointing

:07:52. > :08:00.towards that likelihood. Pressure must be growing on the

:08:01. > :08:04.German authorities, not only because that man was known to them before

:08:05. > :08:08.the attack but it is now three days since the attack and they have not

:08:09. > :08:14.found him. Damian Grammaticus has been talking to me.

:08:15. > :08:25.Angela Merkel went to visit the security services. She thanked

:08:26. > :08:31.Germans for their patience and calmness after the event. I think

:08:32. > :08:36.there are questions to be raised for the police, the security services,

:08:37. > :08:40.for their handling of the case of Anis Amri before these attacks, but

:08:41. > :08:46.there is also I think quite a good deal of patience while police hunt

:08:47. > :08:51.for him. Tell us what is behind you? I can see some festivities but also

:08:52. > :08:58.some concrete barriers. Yes, this is the market. We are right in the

:08:59. > :09:02.middle of Berlin. This is just close to where the attack happened. The

:09:03. > :09:09.lorry came through not just this part of the market but 100 metres

:09:10. > :09:14.through the market stalls. Here, they have reopened this. We were

:09:15. > :09:22.here when they were putting the concrete barriers in place along the

:09:23. > :09:28.road to block the market stalls off from access to the site. The

:09:29. > :09:31.stallholders are back. Trade is not as brisk as you would imagine, but

:09:32. > :09:35.many people are coming here to this point where they have been putting

:09:36. > :09:40.candles and flowers and there are other points as well. This is a sign

:09:41. > :09:46.of the lunar is trying to get back to normal to say we are open. --

:09:47. > :09:49.people of Berlin. We spoke to a stallholder who said the importance

:09:50. > :09:52.is not to be afraid, not to let the people who carried out the attack

:09:53. > :10:05.win but to get back to business and show they were back to normal.

:10:06. > :10:10.There are various reports in German media of his his links

:10:11. > :10:14.This is a news website - it says he'd been seen

:10:15. > :10:17.in the company of a man who was arrested with

:10:18. > :10:20.Spiegel magazine reports he offered himself as a suicide attacker.

:10:21. > :10:22.The BBC can't confirm either of those stories.

:10:23. > :10:27.Also The New York Times says he was on a US no-fly list -

:10:28. > :10:30.and that he'd researched explosives and communicated with

:10:31. > :10:38.the Islamic State group via a messenger service.

:10:39. > :10:41.We've also been getting information from his family in Tunisia -

:10:42. > :10:48.they live in a place called Kairouan.

:10:49. > :10:57.This is what his brothers told journalists.

:10:58. > :11:06.This is the home that Anis Amri grew up in. He was barely 16 when he left

:11:07. > :11:10.his hometown. There have been outbursts of anger from his siblings

:11:11. > :11:18.who have gathered here, since we arrived. His sister came out at some

:11:19. > :11:22.point. She was crying. She was shouted at some of the journalists

:11:23. > :11:26.saying everyone was trying to vilify her brother and the entire family.

:11:27. > :11:37.She does not believe that her brother had anything to do with the

:11:38. > :11:44.Berlin attacks. His brother also came out at some point and talked to

:11:45. > :11:51.us saying that his brother had told him he might come back to Tunisia as

:11:52. > :11:56.early as January. TRANSLATION: We were waiting for our brother to come

:11:57. > :12:02.back with a new work permit. We did not expect to hear the news that we

:12:03. > :12:06.heard. I last spoke to him ten days before the attack. IS operatives

:12:07. > :12:12.have been recruited from this country for over two years now. Some

:12:13. > :12:16.come from big cities like the T miss, others from sleepy towns. They

:12:17. > :12:22.have also come from different backgrounds. Some have been from

:12:23. > :12:28.from wealthy families, had a higher education. Others have been average

:12:29. > :12:33.Tunisian is just trying to get by in life. And some like the suspect and

:12:34. > :12:37.his family come from abject poverty. Friends and family say he grew up

:12:38. > :12:41.like any other youngster here. He loved spending time with his

:12:42. > :12:46.friends, he listened to music and he drank alcohol. We'll so know he had

:12:47. > :12:51.a criminal history. He was sentenced in absentia to five years in jail

:12:52. > :12:56.and he was also imprisoned in Palermo in Sicily for four years

:12:57. > :13:00.before he moved on to Germany. It is not believed that he ever had any

:13:01. > :13:04.Islamist links here before he left the country, so if he did get

:13:05. > :13:09.radicalised, it happened during his stay in Europe.

:13:10. > :13:14.And you can find all the BBC coverage of the attack collated in

:13:15. > :13:19.one place on the BBC News website. Let's look at what could be a major

:13:20. > :13:22.breakthrough in the treatment It's concerns a drug called

:13:23. > :13:26.Ocrelizumab and that appears to be able to slow damage to the brain

:13:27. > :13:31.in two forms of MS. The findings of a the trial

:13:32. > :13:33.were published in the James Gallagher has been telling me

:13:34. > :13:47.how the drug works. If you think about what MS is, it is

:13:48. > :13:50.an immune system is starting to attack the brain and wants it

:13:51. > :13:53.attacks the brain it disrupts chemical and electrical signals

:13:54. > :13:59.throughout the brain and that is how you lose control of your body. If

:14:00. > :14:04.the immune system is attacking the brain, let's attack the immune

:14:05. > :14:07.system. So what Ocrelizumab does is it selectively destroys part of the

:14:08. > :14:14.immune system to ease the assault on the brain. This trial was of 2000

:14:15. > :14:18.patients. Is that a significant number? Can we draw some big

:14:19. > :14:23.conclusions? And has the latest trial and it is the most important

:14:24. > :14:25.one. Trials go from a couple of people where you test it for safety

:14:26. > :14:31.and then bigger numbers where you say, does it work for patients? This

:14:32. > :14:36.is a really significant trial and it shows it does work in patients who

:14:37. > :14:39.have relapsing remitting MS. That is the kind that gets worse, then it

:14:40. > :14:49.gets better and then gets worse again over time. For people with the

:14:50. > :14:56.type which just gets worse there is no hope. We have the details of this

:14:57. > :15:02.trial published online. What now happens? It has to move from a trial

:15:03. > :15:08.to real life. The first stage is getting an official license to be

:15:09. > :15:10.prescribed by doctors. It will go to the US Food and Drug Administration

:15:11. > :15:18.to get the license. It is expecting to get that by the end of next year

:15:19. > :15:23.and then it is the case of who wants to pay for it? Expensive? They are

:15:24. > :15:30.always expensive, Ross, you know that. This is a really innovative

:15:31. > :15:33.piece of medicine. How you pay for it is almost as big question is

:15:34. > :15:41.developing the drugs in the first place.

:15:42. > :15:49.Not for the first time at week from Donald Trump has raised a lot of

:15:50. > :15:50.questions. We will have more on that and be with Barbara Plett-Usher get

:15:51. > :16:03.reaction. Around 70 to 80 prisoners have taken

:16:04. > :16:08.control of a wing at HMP swell side in Kent. The category B training

:16:09. > :16:12.prison houses prisoners on life sentences. This is the fourth

:16:13. > :16:16.disturbance at an English jail in less than two months following

:16:17. > :16:25.disturbances at Bedford, Birmingham and lowest -- HMP swell side.

:16:26. > :16:37.Swaleside is a very difficult place to work at the moment. There is a

:16:38. > :16:41.shortage of staff. It is a tough prison. Prisoners are there for a

:16:42. > :16:46.long period of time. They are big, powerful guys. There are a lot of

:16:47. > :16:50.drugs in prisons at this period in time. It is a particularly tough

:16:51. > :16:51.place to work and if you short staffed, staffed, it makes it even

:16:52. > :17:12.harder. Hello, I am Ross Atkins with Outside

:17:13. > :17:13.Source. The Syrian army says it has taken

:17:14. > :17:20.control of Aleppo. BBC Chinese reports that Japan has

:17:21. > :17:22.increased its defence budget That's seen as a response

:17:23. > :17:27.to tensions in the South China Sea - The draft budget takes spending

:17:28. > :17:31.next year to a record BBC Swahili reports that Opposition

:17:32. > :17:39.MPs in Kenya have stormed out of parliament alleging

:17:40. > :17:41.they had been assaulted. This all happened during a debate

:17:42. > :17:44.on changing the electoral laws for The initial debate on Tuesday also

:17:45. > :17:52.saw MPs exchange punches. Separatists in the east

:17:53. > :17:54.of Ukraine have held the self-proclaimed republic's

:17:55. > :17:59.most patriotic cat. Owners were encouraged

:18:00. > :18:01.to dress their pet in the colours About an hour ago, Donald Trump

:18:02. > :18:24.tweeted this tweet, "The United States must greatly

:18:25. > :18:26.strengthen and expand its nuclear capability until such time

:18:27. > :18:40.as the world comes to its senses As is often the case with Mr Trump,

:18:41. > :18:45.he tweets but does not offer a great deal of detail on top of that. That

:18:46. > :18:50.can sense the media running and to work out what is going on. Let's

:18:51. > :18:56.bring in Barbara Plett Usher in Washington, DC. I see we have been

:18:57. > :18:59.offered a little help from one of Mr Trump's press advisers? Yes, Mr

:19:00. > :19:04.Trump is Mac transition team have been left with the task of

:19:05. > :19:11.translating that remarkable tweet. They say what he meant to say was it

:19:12. > :19:14.is important to prevent nuclear proliferation, especially regarding

:19:15. > :19:19.terrorist organisations and rogue states. The transition team also

:19:20. > :19:25.pointed out that Mr Trump has been emphasising the need to modernise

:19:26. > :19:29.America's deterrent capability. That is the note on his website. If that

:19:30. > :19:34.is what he is saying with this tweet then it seems as if he would be

:19:35. > :19:39.supporting President Obama's current policy which is to modernise

:19:40. > :19:44.America's ageing arsenal, but if that is what he was trying to say,

:19:45. > :19:50.he did so in a way that caused quite a lot of surprise and alarm. There

:19:51. > :19:54.is a difference between modernising and expanding and it is the word X

:19:55. > :20:04.band which drew a lot of attention? That is right. -- the word expand.

:20:05. > :20:13.President Obama has been all about reducing stockpiles. Some have

:20:14. > :20:19.criticised this because of creating a new cruise missile and updating a

:20:20. > :20:24.nuclear bomb. There are some changes which people say could increase an

:20:25. > :20:29.arms race but it is not within President Obama's policy to expand

:20:30. > :20:32.nuclear weapons in the world. He entered office talking about a

:20:33. > :20:39.planet without nuclear weapons. So when Mr Trump tweets he wants to

:20:40. > :20:43.strengthen and expand they question it. And if he tweets without any

:20:44. > :20:48.policy discussion or policy details or even a position he -- a position

:20:49. > :20:59.to make policies because he is not president yet, then this is what the

:21:00. > :21:07.Clinton campaign were saying, that he is too erratic and this will feed

:21:08. > :21:12.those concerns. We are new territory with Mr Trump in many ways. I don't

:21:13. > :21:17.think America has had a president before who tweets and then has

:21:18. > :21:24.colleagues to translate for press and country.

:21:25. > :21:30.We will carry on talking about the President elect because he continues

:21:31. > :21:34.to expand his team. This is a billionaire investor who will advise

:21:35. > :21:45.the government on regulatory reform or to put it another way, reduce

:21:46. > :21:48.regulation. He says it is time to break free of excessive regulation

:21:49. > :21:55.and let entrepreneurs do what they do best. Let's try and understand

:21:56. > :22:04.what that means. Samir is in New York. What is this describing in

:22:05. > :22:09.practical terms? When you are talking about Carl Icahn, he is an

:22:10. > :22:13.activist investor. He is someone we have talked about before. He is very

:22:14. > :22:20.well made people on Wall Street. He will take on the role of advising

:22:21. > :22:24.Donald Trump on regulations. What he argues is that any rules which

:22:25. > :22:29.confine business in any sort of way actually reduces how much businesses

:22:30. > :22:36.can put out in the world and say what he wants to do is to say, look,

:22:37. > :22:41.if we get rid of a lot of the rules which are tying down businesses then

:22:42. > :22:47.that will allow us to flourish. That is a Republican held belief. Donald

:22:48. > :22:49.Trump, by appointing him into his team of advisers, is really

:22:50. > :22:53.signalling that he wants to get rid of a lot of these regulations. We

:22:54. > :22:59.have talked about this before with a lot of the banking regulations which

:23:00. > :23:04.force banks to keep more Capital One hand or keep more liquidity on hand

:23:05. > :23:09.to try and protect itself from any sort of big moves within the market.

:23:10. > :23:13.This is another one of these moves in which Donald Trump wants to try

:23:14. > :23:18.and get rid of some of the rules to allow businesses to flourish. You

:23:19. > :23:23.mentioned the banks and this looks like a reverse. If we go back to the

:23:24. > :23:27.months of 2008, the lack of regulation was the thing that people

:23:28. > :23:32.highlighted as one of the primary causes, wasn't it? And macro that is

:23:33. > :23:36.absolutely right. What many will argue is we have gone too much in

:23:37. > :23:42.the opposite direction and we have too many regulations now which are

:23:43. > :23:51.really hampering banks. This is why you are always hearing the words

:23:52. > :23:55.Dodd Frank. Those are the regulations put into place after the

:23:56. > :24:00.financial crisis. Mr Trump says he wants to rule back -- rollback of

:24:01. > :24:07.some of those regulations to free the bank to do what they do best.

:24:08. > :24:14.Thank you, Samira. We have had reports from Lebanon and

:24:15. > :24:23.now we are turning our attention to China. Ali Barber is done in -- much

:24:24. > :24:34.of the business of Ali Barber is done in China. America has put it on

:24:35. > :24:44.a blacklist due to the counterfeit sales online. The company was

:24:45. > :24:51.accused of selling high levels of fake goods. Alibaba rejects those

:24:52. > :24:55.allegations and says it polices the marketplace much better than in the

:24:56. > :24:59.past, and it also says that today's political climate in America at have

:25:00. > :25:04.something to do with the fact it is back on the blacklist.

:25:05. > :25:09.President-elect Donald Trump repeatedly accused China of stealing

:25:10. > :25:13.intellectual property and has appointed an outspoken critic as

:25:14. > :25:19.head of the trade body. But Donald Trump has not taken office yet so

:25:20. > :25:23.the authorities would probably disagree with Alibaba's speculation

:25:24. > :25:27.that it is back on the blacklist. Just before we finish this half of

:25:28. > :25:37.Outside Source, let me remind you of some very significant news. This is

:25:38. > :25:41.the HP quoting the Syrian army says it has retaken Aleppo entirely, as

:25:42. > :25:47.the last group of rebel fighters were evacuated. Militarily, the

:25:48. > :25:50.battle for Aleppo ended a couple of weeks back but nonetheless, this is

:25:51. > :25:55.a city which has been fought over for nearly four years. For the first

:25:56. > :26:00.time in that period the Syrian government is backing control. Speak

:26:01. > :26:02.to you in a minute. -- back in