:00:13. > :00:20.Welcome back and welcome to Outside Source. Theresa May will be meeting
:00:21. > :00:23.Donald Trump tomorrow, and she has already addressed his Republican
:00:24. > :00:28.colleagues. We have the opportunity, indeed the responsibility, to renew
:00:29. > :00:34.the special relationship for this new age. A few hours before, on the
:00:35. > :00:37.same stage, the president addressed the same Republican gathering after
:00:38. > :00:42.a diplomatic spat on Twitter. He spoke about a meeting with the
:00:43. > :00:46.Mexican president, that's off. Unless Mexico is going to treat the
:00:47. > :00:52.United States fairly, with respect, such a meeting would be fruitless,
:00:53. > :00:59.and I want to go a different route. He also touched on Obamacare, which
:01:00. > :01:02.millions of Americans rely on for health coverage. We will have a
:01:03. > :01:07.report from Nick Bryant on what might happen if it is scrapped. I
:01:08. > :01:12.have to have health in order to survive. If I don't have that health
:01:13. > :01:19.care, if he gets rid of it, I'm dead in the water. Actually and we will
:01:20. > :01:23.be live at the State Department, where the entire senior management
:01:24. > :01:37.team has resigned. Barbara Plett will explain that one for our
:01:38. > :01:46.struggle -- for us. How about this for a headline from the Washington
:01:47. > :01:51.Post - when it was put on nine, it was shared thousands of times every
:01:52. > :01:56.minute. The entire senior management team has resigned. Barbara
:01:57. > :02:06.Plett-Usher can explain. What is the story? Well, yes, senior members of
:02:07. > :02:11.the management team have resigned. Actually, Ros, it is not so unusual,
:02:12. > :02:14.whenever there is a change of administration, fulfilling these
:02:15. > :02:18.kinds of postings, which are appointed for term limits, have to
:02:19. > :02:21.offer their letter of resignation. It is not unusual, especially for
:02:22. > :02:26.senior people, to be kept on for a to smooth the transition in the
:02:27. > :02:30.State Department. But in this case, all of these people were apparently
:02:31. > :02:35.told, we don't need you, and so they are leaving. It means that the
:02:36. > :02:39.incoming Secretary of State will have quite a void at the top, and
:02:40. > :02:43.these are jobs that are needed to manage the State Department building
:02:44. > :02:47.and the State Department overseas, the foreign missions, complete
:02:48. > :02:52.experience receives, something that will have to be done fairly quickly.
:02:53. > :02:57.And the labour union that represents these four service officers said,
:02:58. > :03:01.yes, this is a regular rotation, but it is a large number of people
:03:02. > :03:04.leaving in a short period of time, and they have rare skills which you
:03:05. > :03:10.cannot really find outside of the foreign service. So they expect the
:03:11. > :03:12.Secretary of State to be able to find other people within the State
:03:13. > :03:15.Department to fill these positions, strongly suggesting that that is
:03:16. > :03:19.where he should look, rather than trying to bring somebody in from the
:03:20. > :03:24.outside. It is all about how this place is run and how effective it
:03:25. > :03:27.can be. We do not actually have the Secretary of State yet, he has not
:03:28. > :03:31.been confirmed yet. The latest we have heard is that that process will
:03:32. > :03:36.start on the Senate floor on Monday evening. I want to ask you know
:03:37. > :03:42.about this increasingly tense relationship between Mexico and the
:03:43. > :03:48.US. And what Donald Trump said earlier, here is some of it... The
:03:49. > :03:52.president of Mexico and myself have agreed to cancel a planned meeting
:03:53. > :03:59.scheduled for next week. Unless Mexico is going to treat the United
:04:00. > :04:04.States fairly, with respect, such a meeting would be fruitless, and I
:04:05. > :04:09.want to go a different route. I have no choice. Barbara, I guess there is
:04:10. > :04:14.an inevitability to this meeting being cancelled, given the rhetoric
:04:15. > :04:18.from both sides? Yes. It is amazing, really. Mr Trump has barely finished
:04:19. > :04:22.his first week in office and already he is involved in this foreign
:04:23. > :04:27.policy spat with a key neighbour. And it was being played out on
:04:28. > :04:30.Twitter. In the morning, Mr Trump tweeted, if Mexico is not going to
:04:31. > :04:34.pay for the wall, then perhaps we should cancel the meeting. And the
:04:35. > :04:40.Mexican President tweeted back, all right, I will not come - not those
:04:41. > :04:45.words exactly, but that was the effect. And then Mr Trump spoke
:04:46. > :04:49.about slapping a 20% tariff on Mexican goods coming in to pay for
:04:50. > :04:55.the war. There is no sense of diplomacy here, which is really very
:04:56. > :04:58.strange. His framing it all in this big issue of economic fairness,
:04:59. > :05:03.saying it is unfair for the Mexicans not to pay for the war, and going on
:05:04. > :05:07.to say, they're treating us unfairly with the North American Free Trade
:05:08. > :05:10.Agreement, which is the thing which has the Mexicans really worried,
:05:11. > :05:14.because their whole economy has been organised along the lines of that
:05:15. > :05:20.treaty, with 80% of their products coming here. It is really
:05:21. > :05:24.extraordinary to watch. Are we seeing a parallel to what we saw
:05:25. > :05:28.during the political campaigns, where clearly Mr Trump thrives on
:05:29. > :05:32.opposition, whether it is creating opposition in the media, opposition
:05:33. > :05:37.to Hillary Clinton, whatever it might be, it seems he's taking a
:05:38. > :05:41.similar approach to diplomacy, that through opposition, he will achieve
:05:42. > :05:45.his goals? That may be the case. But it needs all the parties, including
:05:46. > :05:53.the other country, including his own diplomatic staff, including I expect
:05:54. > :05:57.congresspeople, wondering what the game plan is and where this will
:05:58. > :06:02.lead. It's really quite uncharted territory. One more story to ask you
:06:03. > :06:06.about, and we spoke about this last night, Donald Trump has hinted that
:06:07. > :06:14.he would support the idea of safe zones for civilians who are being
:06:15. > :06:19.displaced in Syria. It is a huge suggestion, because it would involve
:06:20. > :06:23.the Syrian government agreeing to it, and secondly, you would have to
:06:24. > :06:31.put troops on the ground to protect those safe owns, and whose troops
:06:32. > :06:39.with baby? The Kremlin spokesperson has responded to say...
:06:40. > :06:44.Barbra, to get this off the ground would take a huge amount of
:06:45. > :06:50.diplomatic work, wouldn't it? It would be of huge project, yes. Let's
:06:51. > :06:54.just say that the outset, that safe zone is mentioned in a draft
:06:55. > :06:58.executive order that's been circulating, it has not yet been
:06:59. > :07:03.signed. But the draft is out there. It is related to an order that
:07:04. > :07:11.Syrian refugee admissions should stop. The Americans would stop
:07:12. > :07:13.accepting Syrian refugees for an indefinite time, and instead they
:07:14. > :07:19.would try to set up a safe some in the region, says the draft, for
:07:20. > :07:26.those people to stay instead. But there is nothing about what it would
:07:27. > :07:29.look like. But we know as you said, that any plan would have to involve
:07:30. > :07:32.some kind of military commitment, especially if it was set up against
:07:33. > :07:38.the wishes of the Syrian government. It is really an unknown. The Qataris
:07:39. > :07:44.have already said, yes, it is a good idea. Also we will have a no-fly
:07:45. > :07:47.zone to enforce it. That is not something that has been mentioned.
:07:48. > :07:52.The Turks have been the strongest proponents of a safe zone, and they
:07:53. > :07:59.have said, we would like to see what they come up with in detail. The
:08:00. > :08:03.Russians in the past have specifically warned the US not to
:08:04. > :08:07.take on the Syrian government militarily and have said that if the
:08:08. > :08:10.Syrian government is targeted, that the Russians will use their own air
:08:11. > :08:16.defence weapons against them. There is all of this in the background,
:08:17. > :08:20.and Mr Trump has just thrown this suggestion into the midst of it all.
:08:21. > :08:29.I guess we will be speaking to you around this time on Outside Source a
:08:30. > :08:37.lot. As we are waiting for Rex Tillerson to come in and to get his
:08:38. > :08:44.team in place below him. Theresa May, should this be seen, what she
:08:45. > :08:49.said, as a conflict with Trump's ideals, says one viewer. I think it
:08:50. > :08:52.is fair to say that she wants a strong nation state for the UK that
:08:53. > :08:58.but that it must be internationalist in its view of the world. We cannot
:08:59. > :09:03.really speak for what Donald Trump wants, in terms of how America will
:09:04. > :09:06.be positioned. Forget what he said today was that he did want to deal
:09:07. > :09:12.with the rest of the world, he wants to cut of bilateral trade deals, but
:09:13. > :09:18.it was always be from the position of putting America's interests
:09:19. > :09:22.first. If you can do that and be an internationalist, we will have to
:09:23. > :09:25.see if he manages to pull that off. Next, the issue of health policy.
:09:26. > :09:34.Donald Trump today launched another stinging attack on Obama. Obamacare
:09:35. > :09:36.is a disaster. The Democrats are saying, they're putting up signs
:09:37. > :09:42.like it's wonderful. It's a disaster. I actually talked with
:09:43. > :09:47.Paul and the group about just doing nothing for two years, and then we
:09:48. > :09:53.would have them coming begging to do something. Because 2017 is going to
:09:54. > :09:57.be catastrophic price increases, your deductibles are through the
:09:58. > :10:03.rich, you can't use it. Who can't use it. And they would come to us,
:10:04. > :10:07.except we have one problem is that we have to take care of the American
:10:08. > :10:10.people immediately. It looks like Obamacare will be scrapped by
:10:11. > :10:17.Congress, possibly as soon as March or April. But no-one is that clear
:10:18. > :10:19.on what is going to replace it, and that's causing concern. Here is Nick
:10:20. > :10:33.Bryant with his report from New York. In New York City, it is
:10:34. > :10:37.estimated that one in five of the city's population could lose their
:10:38. > :10:44.health care, if it is repealed. Among them, Donna Leslie. She does
:10:45. > :10:46.not know what she would do if she lost her Obamacare coverage. It
:10:47. > :10:53.would be a disaster for me. I have to have health care in order to
:10:54. > :11:00.survive. If I don't have that health care, if he gets rid of it, I'm dead
:11:01. > :11:03.in the water, no doubt. No doubt. It's not just adults that could lose
:11:04. > :11:07.their coverage, but as many as 4 million children. And doctors are
:11:08. > :11:12.also worried about the impact of existing treatments being
:11:13. > :11:16.interrupted. We're talking about millions of people... This doctor
:11:17. > :11:21.says the human consequences across America of repealing Obamacare would
:11:22. > :11:25.be dire. We are talking about people dying, people suffering as well. A
:11:26. > :11:30.patient with high blood pressure who goes without their medicine for a
:11:31. > :11:35.few months is at higher risk of a stroke a heart attack. And a patient
:11:36. > :11:39.with cancer who has started treatment, an interruption in care
:11:40. > :11:43.would mean that they're no longer able to get the chemotherapy or the
:11:44. > :11:47.radiation therapy or the surgery that they might need. So from that
:11:48. > :11:53.aspect of, I'm very worried about the real consequences of what's
:11:54. > :12:01.playing out on a national level. -- from that perspective. The problem
:12:02. > :12:11.for the Trump administration and Republicans on Capitol Hill is, what
:12:12. > :12:16.do you replace Obamacare with? Within hours of taking office, with
:12:17. > :12:18.a flourish of his presidential pen, Donald Trump started rolling back
:12:19. > :12:22.his predecessor's signature achievement. Without a clear
:12:23. > :12:29.administration plan yet on the table of what to replace it with. But on
:12:30. > :12:31.Capitol Hill, Republicans claim they can draft an alternative that gives
:12:32. > :12:37.more access to more affordable coverage. I don't even like the use
:12:38. > :12:41.of the word replace. I would like to think that we are just repealing the
:12:42. > :12:45.bad that is out there now and fixing what's left over and putting new
:12:46. > :12:50.ideas in place, putting some market-driven ideas in place, and
:12:51. > :12:53.putting patients first. For decades, health care has been a polarising
:12:54. > :12:58.issue between progressives and Conservatives. Many in the
:12:59. > :13:03.Republican ace have been campaigning for years for the end of Obamacare.
:13:04. > :13:05.But its abolition carries political risks, especially with poor,
:13:06. > :13:12.working-class Americans, who helped Donald Trump reach Washington. I
:13:13. > :13:17.have been asking for your questions. Lots of you have been getting in
:13:18. > :13:20.touch with what I would call regular questions about the Trump
:13:21. > :13:24.administration. One of you saying, will Theresa May and Donald Trump
:13:25. > :13:32.dance at any point tomorrow? I have no idea. Another one says, is your
:13:33. > :13:36.tie from Somerset cricket club? No, it's not but thanks for asking. And
:13:37. > :13:42.the message from Peter Stringfellow, a very well-known nightclub owner in
:13:43. > :13:45.London. He says, Ros, please stop pretending that you're controlling
:13:46. > :13:49.this screen, it's really embarrassing. I prod, this is not me
:13:50. > :13:54.pretending. If I press that button, this comes up. If I press this, the
:13:55. > :13:58.map comes up. And if I pressed the wrong button, I promise you, the
:13:59. > :14:04.wrong thing will happen. Honestly, it's real. And if I get it wrong it
:14:05. > :14:07.doesn't work. Thank you very much for those questions should we will
:14:08. > :14:12.get to slightly more pressing questions about the Trump
:14:13. > :14:17.presidency. Anthony will be explaining that in a while.
:14:18. > :14:18.Particularly, we will focus on Mr Trump's complex relationship with
:14:19. > :14:30.the cable news networks in the US. There has been a rise in suicides,
:14:31. > :14:33.assaults and self harm inside prisons in England and Wales. A
:14:34. > :14:35.number of those taking their own lives is the highest since records
:14:36. > :14:43.began in 1978. The rise in assaults, suicides
:14:44. > :14:52.and self harming is relentless. The sense of crisis in the system
:14:53. > :14:55.was underlined by a riot in Birmingham prison,
:14:56. > :14:58.where inmates posed Just one of a string of jail
:14:59. > :15:04.disturbances in recent months. Amid the volatile atmosphere,
:15:05. > :15:11.today's figures show that in the past year, a record
:15:12. > :15:14.number of prisoners have It's very hard when you've got
:15:15. > :15:18.members of your family who... Sarah is a long-serving
:15:19. > :15:20.prison officer whose She describes having to deal
:15:21. > :15:26.with a teenage suicide. I came on duty, and I went
:15:27. > :15:31.to perform a roll check. I lifted the flap, and this young
:15:32. > :15:34.man was suspended in his cell. and I saw it was his birthday,
:15:35. > :15:40.and I thought, what a waste. Just describe the thoughts in your
:15:41. > :15:44.head as you're going into work. When you open a door,
:15:45. > :15:51.you don't know what you're Prisons are awash with drugs
:15:52. > :15:58.and psychoactive substances that All adding to the underlying
:15:59. > :16:03.problems of staff shortages Vulnerable prisoners are suffering
:16:04. > :16:07.in the increasingly threatening I am very clear that the levels
:16:08. > :16:19.of violence in our prisons are too high, and the levels of self-harm
:16:20. > :16:23.are too high. Since I became Justice Secretary,
:16:24. > :16:25.I've focused on dealing That's why we are investing
:16:26. > :16:29.an extra ?100 million. 2,500 extra prison officers across
:16:30. > :16:32.the estate, so that we are able to have a caseload of one prison
:16:33. > :16:36.officer for every six prisoners. But Sarah says the challenge
:16:37. > :16:38.is not recruiting staff, And on top of that,
:16:39. > :16:47.you've got the fear. I've never been in fear
:16:48. > :16:52.of my life until now, and we just don't get paid enough
:16:53. > :17:09.to have that fear everyday. Welcome back to Outside Source. Our
:17:10. > :17:16.lead story is that Theresa May has urged America to engage with, and
:17:17. > :17:18.beware of, Russia. The comments came in a speech to senior Republicans in
:17:19. > :17:27.Philadelphia. She will meet resident Trump tomorrow. Coming up after
:17:28. > :17:32.Outside Source, its world news America next, if you're watching
:17:33. > :17:34.outside the UK, with a report from a survivor of Auschwitz. Here in the
:17:35. > :17:51.UK, the News at Ten is next. I'm going to bring in Anthony in a
:17:52. > :17:56.moment. But first of all, a couple of tweets which people have been
:17:57. > :17:59.highlighting. This is one where Mr Trump says, ungrateful traitor
:18:00. > :18:18.Chelsea Manning... These are important issues in their
:18:19. > :18:22.own right, but the reason I have highlighted those two tweets is the
:18:23. > :18:27.language and the statistics used in them. Exactly matching those used in
:18:28. > :18:31.stories which ran on Fox news units before the president tweeted. We
:18:32. > :18:34.cannot know if that is just a coincidence. We do know that the
:18:35. > :18:39.president watches a lot of network TV news. His relationship with these
:18:40. > :18:43.networks really matters. Anthony joins me now to talk about this.
:18:44. > :18:47.Would we expect that to be the case, that the Trump was taking some
:18:48. > :18:52.information, some policy needs, from a network? I think it certainly
:18:53. > :18:58.looks that way. And these are not the only examples, either. A few
:18:59. > :19:01.months ago, Fox news ran a story about flag burning, and then minutes
:19:02. > :19:06.later, Donald Trump early in the morning tweeted out a condemnation
:19:07. > :19:09.of flag burning and called for a constitutional amendment. So, his
:19:10. > :19:13.watching it, and it's influencing the way he views the world and views
:19:14. > :19:19.US politics and views policy. It is pretty remarkable that a morning TV
:19:20. > :19:23.programme could adjust the views of the leader of the free world. It
:19:24. > :19:27.used to be that the New York Times would be what everyone talks about
:19:28. > :19:31.in this town. But now it seems like Donald Trump is taking his advice,
:19:32. > :19:36.his insight, a different source. And he seems to be particularly focused
:19:37. > :19:41.not just on Fox but on CNN and the others, more so than perhaps other
:19:42. > :19:45.media outlets - is that because of the power of the networks? I think
:19:46. > :19:50.that has a lot to do with it. You noted CNN, and he talks about CNN
:19:51. > :19:56.almost as much as he mentions reports from Fox. CNN is the will in
:19:57. > :20:00.his mind, and he's constantly trashing them, saying that they have
:20:01. > :20:04.low ratings, but they're fake news. 'S picked a fight with a CNN news
:20:05. > :20:12.reporter joined that first news conference, before he was sworn in.
:20:13. > :20:15.Those are obviously two of the more prominent cable networks in the US.
:20:16. > :20:18.And Donald Trump obviously spends a lot of time watching them and cares
:20:19. > :20:25.a lot about what they say. Let's pick up this theme to more. Before I
:20:26. > :20:27.came into the set, I was down in the newsroom, and I saw that the New
:20:28. > :20:35.York Times had an interview with Stephen Pennant, the chief White
:20:36. > :20:38.House strategist, who used to be in charge of a right-wing news website.
:20:39. > :20:42.He gave a very strong quote on the media. He said the media should be
:20:43. > :20:47.embarrassed and humiliated and keep its mouth shut and just listen for a
:20:48. > :20:52.while. He said, I want you to quote me on this, the media here is the
:20:53. > :20:56.opposition party, they do not understand this country, they still
:20:57. > :20:59.do not understand why Donald Trump is the president of the United
:21:00. > :21:02.States. What did you make of that, Anthony? Well, it's pretty strong
:21:03. > :21:07.language. Apparently the interview he gave to the New York Times came
:21:08. > :21:09.on the heels of Sean Spicer's very aggressive press conference on
:21:10. > :21:12.Saturday near the he bashed the media and said that they were
:21:13. > :21:22.misrepresenting the crowds at the inauguration. And Steve Bannon is
:21:23. > :21:28.someone who Donald Trump listens to, a very close adviser. Along with
:21:29. > :21:34.Stephen Miller, he calls them the two Steves, both of them firebrands
:21:35. > :21:40.with an anti-establishment view of politics. In his inaugural address,
:21:41. > :21:43.he bashed the establishment, bashed Washington, said he was giving power
:21:44. > :21:48.back to the people, Alec is rhetoric. And they might have been
:21:49. > :21:51.involved in that speech. You think the media in the US now see
:21:52. > :21:54.themselves as the opposition? I think they feel that they have a
:21:55. > :21:59.responsibility to challenge Donald Trump at every turn. I think that
:22:00. > :22:03.they took to heart some of the accusations that they did not take a
:22:04. > :22:07.Donald Trump seriously early enough in the presidential campaign. I
:22:08. > :22:10.think use or later in the campaign, particularly in that press
:22:11. > :22:14.conference which ended up not being a press conference, at the Donald
:22:15. > :22:18.Trump H, where he refuse to answer media questions and dismissed the
:22:19. > :22:22.allegations that he was responsible for questioning Barack Obama's birth
:22:23. > :22:24.certificate, I think from then on, the media took a much more
:22:25. > :22:29.adversarial view towards Donald Trump, and that has carried over
:22:30. > :22:32.into the transition and into his presidency. I don't think they would
:22:33. > :22:36.like being characterised as the opposition party, but I think they
:22:37. > :22:40.feel they have a responsibility to challenge him and question him when
:22:41. > :22:44.he says something that the facts are not bear out. Just a couple of
:22:45. > :22:52.questions here, firstly from Alex, watching in Manchester - do we know
:22:53. > :22:57.Mr Trump's thoughts on the European feeling towards his presidency? Be
:22:58. > :23:01.Pool C Trump as a radical, they disapprove of his attitude towards
:23:02. > :23:04.the press, they see him as dangerous. That is not
:23:05. > :23:20.representative of all attitudes in Europe, but I do not see Mr Trump as
:23:21. > :23:24.someone he does pay attention. He cares a lot about what people think
:23:25. > :23:30.of him. When he was over in the UK right after the Brexit folk, took
:23:31. > :23:34.that as a sign for a possible victory for him. So he was obviously
:23:35. > :23:38.paying attention to the Brexit folk. I think he sees ideological soul
:23:39. > :23:45.mates in some of the nationalist movements in the UK and in
:23:46. > :23:48.continental. So I would not be supposed if he is at least somewhat
:23:49. > :23:52.aware of it. Obviously, he has a close relationship with Nigel
:23:53. > :23:58.Farage, so there will be some information traded there. But as far
:23:59. > :24:01.as the average person on the street thinks in Europe, I don't think he
:24:02. > :24:07.cares that much. Thank you, Anthony. Just very quickly, the timings of
:24:08. > :24:11.tomorrow's events, please? We don't know a whole lot about what he will
:24:12. > :24:15.be doing tomorrow. There is talk of executive orders on visas, which we
:24:16. > :24:20.thought were going to come today. On immigration as well. So I would not
:24:21. > :24:24.be surprised if we saw something about that tomorrow. Thank you very
:24:25. > :24:28.much indeed. Just to tick up on that message I got 15 minutes ago from
:24:29. > :24:34.Peter Stringfellow, well-known nightclub owner here in London,
:24:35. > :24:39.about my screen. I replied to him, offering for him to come in and try
:24:40. > :24:42.it, and lots of you have been saying they would rather have a visit to
:24:43. > :24:47.his place than mine, which I'm frankly offended by! But thank you
:24:48. > :24:50.very much for all your messages! We'll take a breather now. We will
:24:51. > :25:13.be back at the same time on Monday. Thanks for your company.
:25:14. > :25:14.If you were watching this time yesterday, I was explaining