:00:09. > :00:15.Hello, I'm Ros Atkins, this is Outside Source.
:00:16. > :00:23.If you did not see Donald Trump's press conference, it is worth your
:00:24. > :00:30.time. I inherited a mess. Put it out before the American people, 306
:00:31. > :00:37.electoral college votes. This administration is running like a
:00:38. > :00:42.fine tuned machine. Passionate opening statement, sliding from
:00:43. > :00:51.topic to topic. Followed by questions, no subject is off-limits.
:00:52. > :00:55.Wait, I know who you are, wait. The story that has dominated this week,
:00:56. > :01:02.the resignation of the President's National Security adviser, so be it.
:01:03. > :01:08.The leagues I absolutely real. The news is fake. A lot of questions
:01:09. > :01:10.were answered, a lot more were raised. We will take as many as we
:01:11. > :01:34.can get across the hour. There is a strong argument we have
:01:35. > :01:42.seen the most remarkable press conference ever given by US
:01:43. > :01:47.President. Lasting well over one hour, it painted a dystopian vision
:01:48. > :01:53.of America, and a world in a mess. That now has a president offering
:01:54. > :01:57.reassurances, taking care of it. The familiar but potent cocktail of
:01:58. > :02:02.attacks on the media, boasting about the election result, promising to
:02:03. > :02:07.heal the country. That last one is looking a long way off. As always,
:02:08. > :02:12.when Trump speaks, a number of statements which were demonstrably
:02:13. > :02:18.untrue. We will look at this onto Dave's Outside Source. Mr Trott
:02:19. > :02:21.takes America, its presidency and its place in the world is new
:02:22. > :02:26.territory, just as he said on the campaign trail. Let's start with the
:02:27. > :02:47.President's staunch defence of his performance so far. To be honest,.
:02:48. > :03:13.Is the leaving out with the least cost that is what I think I'd have
:03:14. > :03:15.thought, engine six electoral college votes. I turned on the TV,
:03:16. > :03:31.and then this administration is running
:03:32. > :03:38.like a fine tuned machine. Keeping me company Anthony live from
:03:39. > :03:44.Washington. We will have time to get into specifics. Your general
:03:45. > :03:51.thoughts after that hour and a half? Like you said, unprecedented press
:03:52. > :03:55.conference. For a sitting president. For Donald Trump, we should not be
:03:56. > :04:00.surprised. It is the Donald Trump we have seen through the campaign. They
:04:01. > :04:03.were common early in the campaign, until his staff started to reel him
:04:04. > :04:08.in during the general election. Donald Trump, they have decided to
:04:09. > :04:14.have him unleashed. That beginning opening statement, airing his
:04:15. > :04:20.grievances, painting a dark picture. That was scripted. He seemed down.
:04:21. > :04:24.Once he got into the give-and-take with reporters committee seemed
:04:25. > :04:27.animated, comfortable. He needed to get up there take the slings and
:04:28. > :04:32.arrows from the media, show he is not afraid of them. The White House
:04:33. > :04:36.had been in a bit of a bunker until now. He mentioned several times he
:04:37. > :04:41.will hold a campaign style rally in Florida on Saturday. They are going
:04:42. > :04:47.back to the script that worked for them. Donald Trump, off-the-cuff
:04:48. > :04:51.comment being few years. He won the presidency that way. It seems they
:04:52. > :04:55.have made a determination to reboot themselves, reboot the campaign.
:04:56. > :04:58.Using that winning formula, we will see whether that works. Thank you.
:04:59. > :05:05.You will be or bust through the hour. Send your questions our way.
:05:06. > :05:09.We heard he returned to a script we heard many times on the campaign
:05:10. > :05:16.trail. He attacked the media for the coverage of him. He did lead. I will
:05:17. > :05:24.play this clip, attacking one particular CNN show. I watch it, I
:05:25. > :05:33.see it, I am amazed by it. I think you would be a lot better off, I
:05:34. > :05:37.honestly think you would. The public start throwing their placards at
:05:38. > :05:41.CNN. I think you would do much better by being different. Take a
:05:42. > :05:45.look at some of your shows in the morning in the evening. If a guest
:05:46. > :05:50.comes out and says something positive about me, it is brutal.
:05:51. > :05:54.They will take this news conference, I'm having a very good time, they
:05:55. > :05:58.will take this conference. That is the way I wanted. I used to give you
:05:59. > :06:05.one every time made a speech, every day. That is how I won with news
:06:06. > :06:09.conferences, and speeches. Certainly not by people listening to you
:06:10. > :06:14.people. I'm having a good time. Tomorrow they will save Donald Trump
:06:15. > :06:19.ranting and raving at the press. I'm telling you you are dishonest
:06:20. > :06:25.people. Dishonest people how he describes those working in CNN. When
:06:26. > :06:28.he says he won the election with press conferences committee did not
:06:29. > :06:33.give one during the campaign. He stopped giving press conferences for
:06:34. > :06:37.a stretch of time. He turned to the big story of the week, the
:06:38. > :06:41.resignation of his national security adviser Michael Flynn. The
:06:42. > :06:45.resignation connected to a conversation general Flynn had with
:06:46. > :06:51.the Russian ambassador to the US before Mr Trump took office. Claims
:06:52. > :06:55.that sanctions against Russia were discussed. Mr Flynn denied it, then
:06:56. > :07:01.said he could not be sure. In the process he gave Vice President Mike
:07:02. > :07:08.pence incomplete information, which was why he had to go. This is Mr
:07:09. > :07:13.Trump's take. I was surprised. Did not sound like he did anything wrong
:07:14. > :07:17.there. He did something wrong with respect to the Vice President. I
:07:18. > :07:24.thought that was not acceptable. As far as the actual making the call, I
:07:25. > :07:32.have watched various programmes, reading various articles where he
:07:33. > :07:36.was just doing his job. Very normal. Donald Trump did not think Michael
:07:37. > :07:39.Flynn had done anything wrong. Here was the response when he asked
:07:40. > :07:44.whether he had directed general Flynn to communicate with Russia
:07:45. > :07:52.Christmas did you direct Michael Flynn to discuss sanctions with the
:07:53. > :07:59.Russians? No, I did not. Excuse me. I fired him because of what he said
:08:00. > :08:03.to Mike pence. He was doing his job, calling countries, his counterparts.
:08:04. > :08:07.It certainly would have been OK with me if he did do it. I would have
:08:08. > :08:11.directed him to do it if I thought he was not doing it. I did not,
:08:12. > :08:19.because I would have done, because it was his job. Allen says the man
:08:20. > :08:24.with the most votes won. He had the most electoral college votes, which
:08:25. > :08:29.is why you up correctly point out he's the president. He did not get
:08:30. > :08:33.the most votes, Hillary Clinton did, but not in the right states. That is
:08:34. > :08:36.why Donald Trump is the president. What did you make of the President's
:08:37. > :08:41.count of Michael Flynn's resignation? Interesting, never
:08:42. > :08:47.really answer the question about why he waited several weeks before he
:08:48. > :08:55.fired or asked him to resign. After he found that he had essentially
:08:56. > :09:04.misled or misrepresented to Mike Pence, hanging the vice president at
:09:05. > :09:07.to dry. He learned he did something wrong, he let the vice president,
:09:08. > :09:17.the sitting vice president go out and say that something he thought
:09:18. > :09:23.was true was not. He stood by Michael Flynn yesterday. He said he
:09:24. > :09:26.was a wonderful man, to he said he had been misrepresented by the
:09:27. > :09:30.media. He said he would have told him to talk with Russians about
:09:31. > :09:35.sanctions committee thought that was worthwhile. That makes you wonder
:09:36. > :09:43.why the administration were so defensive about it. It is mixed
:09:44. > :09:46.signals, contradictory statements from Sean Spicer, the press
:09:47. > :09:50.secretary and Donald Trump to date on the subject. Hard to find out
:09:51. > :09:55.where they're going a game of it. One message posted online from a New
:09:56. > :10:01.York Times reporter, saying the president is consumed by, and acting
:10:02. > :10:05.in response to media coverage. One person saying he wants fighting with
:10:06. > :10:09.the media, they are responding by fighting back. That makes a
:10:10. > :10:13.spectacle more than discussing specific policies and actions. That
:10:14. > :10:17.is exactly right. That is the way I felt watching the press conference.
:10:18. > :10:23.Very early on, Donald Trump talked about the dishonest media, taking
:10:24. > :10:27.swipes at them. He seemed to want to take them on. Media representatives
:10:28. > :10:32.asking about how unfair it was to call them fake news. Donald Trump is
:10:33. > :10:36.more than happy to engage them on that. The general public does not
:10:37. > :10:42.probably care about media grudges, media feelings about being
:10:43. > :10:46.disrespected by the present. They care about policy issues, and other
:10:47. > :10:52.things. The media is focused on that specific angle. Donald Trump enjoys
:10:53. > :10:56.this particular kind of sparring. It does not get that what his
:10:57. > :11:00.ministration is trying to do, it changes the subject and the nature
:11:01. > :11:03.of the scandal, to the nature and coverage of the scandal. One step
:11:04. > :11:10.removed from anything that can get him in trouble. Would any policies
:11:11. > :11:19.on North Korea and the Middle East be published? We got Trump looking
:11:20. > :11:24.for a grand deal in the Middle East beyond Palestinians and Israelis. He
:11:25. > :11:30.said it could be a two state solution, could be 1-macro. The
:11:31. > :11:37.media needs to call him out on his statements. We are doing this entire
:11:38. > :11:41.addition on Outside Source, going through all the areas he covered,
:11:42. > :11:45.plainly the clips, giving you analysis of what he said. We will
:11:46. > :11:49.fact checked some specific claims made by Donald Trump during this
:11:50. > :11:53.extraordinary press conference. Including one which said he won the
:11:54. > :12:00.presidential election by a record margin.
:12:01. > :12:04.Here in the UK, the Business Secretary Greg Clark says he has
:12:05. > :12:20.held constructive talks with General Motors. It emerged the owner of
:12:21. > :12:24.perjury, the PSA group was involved in a possible takeover in Vauxhall's
:12:25. > :12:31.European operation. The general secretary of Unite says he's not
:12:32. > :12:35.prepared to accept job losses. We have made the call, we want the
:12:36. > :12:40.government involved in the issue General Motors. The French
:12:41. > :12:45.government own a stake in Peugeot, they will be arguing and fighting
:12:46. > :12:49.for French jobs. Basically I'll be saying to the government, that is
:12:50. > :12:52.what we need to do. We need to work together, the government needs to
:12:53. > :13:00.make it clear we are not prepared, in the event that Peugeot five
:13:01. > :13:03.-- are buying Vauxhall, we're not prepared to accept a single job loss
:13:04. > :13:14.in Britain. I am Ross Atkins with Outside
:13:15. > :13:18.Source. Our focus in this programme is a last minute press conference
:13:19. > :13:23.organised by President Donald Trump. He covered a range of issues,
:13:24. > :13:26.defending his presidency so far. We will keep going through what the
:13:27. > :13:33.president said as we move through the programme. One of the things
:13:34. > :13:39.driving the issue, the connections, if any, between Mr Trott's team and
:13:40. > :13:46.Russia. Some media, for instance the New York Times, has been publishing
:13:47. > :13:50.leaked material. Mr Trott is serious about these leaks, he has been all
:13:51. > :13:55.week, turning to the issue. When I was called out on Mexico, I was
:13:56. > :14:02.honest, really surprised. It does not make sense. That was not that
:14:03. > :14:05.important the call, I could show it to the world, he could show it to
:14:06. > :14:11.the world. The present is a very fine man, by the way. The same thing
:14:12. > :14:14.with Australia. I said that is terrible, it was leaked. I said to
:14:15. > :14:20.myself, what happens when dealing with the problem with North Korea,
:14:21. > :14:26.the problem of the Middle East. Are you folks going to be reporting that
:14:27. > :14:32.very confidential information from very important? At the highest
:14:33. > :14:35.level. Are you going to be reporting about that, too? I don't want
:14:36. > :14:41.classified information getting out of the public. That was almost the
:14:42. > :14:45.test. I'm dealing with Mexico, dealing with Argentina, we were
:14:46. > :14:50.dealing, in this case, with Mike Flynn. This information gets put
:14:51. > :14:54.into the Washington post, the New York Times. I'm saying, what is
:14:55. > :15:00.going to happen when I'm dealing with the
:15:01. > :15:05.Middle East, important subjects, like North Korea. We have to stop
:15:06. > :15:11.it. That is why it is a criminal penalty. That statement begs one
:15:12. > :15:16.question, is that Mr Trump confirming the information in the
:15:17. > :15:19.leaks are true? What he was talking about where reports he had
:15:20. > :15:32.complained to the Mexican president about Mexico's handling of what he
:15:33. > :15:41.called tough hombres. All the reports he hung up on the Australian
:15:42. > :15:51.Prime Minister, Malcolm Turnbull. This is the leaks real leaks. The
:15:52. > :15:57.news is fake. One thing I felt it was important to do, and I hope we
:15:58. > :16:01.can correct it, nobody I have more respect for than reporters, good
:16:02. > :16:06.reporters. He says leaks are real, the news is fake. Let me bring you
:16:07. > :16:12.in on this, the president is perfectly within his rights to be
:16:13. > :16:16.furious about this. Important confidential information making its
:16:17. > :16:22.way into the public domain? Absolutely. Leaguers have agendas.
:16:23. > :16:28.Putting this information out there, asking their name is not attached to
:16:29. > :16:32.it. Sometimes because they could be in legal trouble. They feel it has
:16:33. > :16:37.to be reported on. Other times they have a grudge, trying to gain power
:16:38. > :16:41.within the bureaucracy therein. Every president has had to do with
:16:42. > :16:46.this at one point to another. Donald Trump is trying to set up an
:16:47. > :16:50.explanation why he is upset about these particular leaks. They are
:16:51. > :16:53.embarrassing. He said they could lead to other leaks that could
:16:54. > :17:00.impact national security. People will have to draw conclusions, valid
:17:01. > :17:06.justification. Something every politician has two deal with. To
:17:07. > :17:10.acknowledge they are truthful, to save the media reports based on them
:17:11. > :17:18.are false, fate. That is cognitive dissonance. He's not acknowledging
:17:19. > :17:21.that right now. How does this President compare with other
:17:22. > :17:27.presidents, in term of keeping his promises, asks Jay? I would answer,
:17:28. > :17:33.he is doing pretty well, doing the things he said he would do. He was
:17:34. > :17:36.boasting about that today. People criticising him for the immigration
:17:37. > :17:42.ban, cracking down on undocumented workers. Those are all things he
:17:43. > :17:48.campaigned on. Very clear about it. They believe is accusing him of
:17:49. > :17:54.trying to pass a hidden agenda. That is not something, of the many things
:17:55. > :17:59.people have accused him of, that he's guilty. Now doing some of the
:18:00. > :18:05.executive orders, making motions to doing things, that is different to
:18:06. > :18:10.getting them accomplished. So far, not a whole lot of legislative
:18:11. > :18:17.success. The appeals in Congress are grinding slowly. The Obama
:18:18. > :18:21.administration had signed a massive infrastructure spending and
:18:22. > :18:25.financial recovery bill. It is compared to past administrations,
:18:26. > :18:30.he's making motions to keeping his promises. Doing things within his
:18:31. > :18:34.particular power to keep those promises. The jury is out on how
:18:35. > :18:40.much you will be able to accomplish. For the moment, thank you very much.
:18:41. > :18:45.I was going to say let's take a brief break from politics, maybe I
:18:46. > :18:50.am, maybe I'm not. The Facebook founder, Mark Zuckerberg, has
:18:51. > :18:56.released a manifesto. Talking about a huge range of issues. The issue of
:18:57. > :18:59.globalisation, he says there are people around the world who feel
:19:00. > :19:04.left behind by it, and the rapid changes that have happened. There
:19:05. > :19:08.are movements, as a result, to withdraw from global connection. He
:19:09. > :19:15.discussed the concept of fake news. Facebook has been caught up in this.
:19:16. > :19:16.He said misinformation is a beginner undermining the common
:19:17. > :19:22.understanding, so does sensationalism, and polarisation.
:19:23. > :19:27.Let's speak to our economics editor. You have been speaking to Mark
:19:28. > :19:33.Zuckerberg. Is he stopping being a businessman, becoming a politician?
:19:34. > :19:40.He insists he's not. We had rumours, would he run in 2020, he said no. He
:19:41. > :19:45.told me in the BBC interview that he did not want to be a politician. Not
:19:46. > :19:53.now, he said. He did not say not ever. He is the leader of the
:19:54. > :19:57.biggest businesses in the world. Frankly, he is as influential as
:19:58. > :20:01.he's going to be as a politician, leaving Facebook. What is
:20:02. > :20:08.interesting about what he told me, what he put out in this 5500 word
:20:09. > :20:14.post on Facebook tonight for me talks about globalisation, fake
:20:15. > :20:20.news, he talks about people not getting upset, but fighting back. A
:20:21. > :20:24.call to action. He said the way to fight back is built connectedness
:20:25. > :20:30.across borders, bring down barriers. What an opposite tone to the tone of
:20:31. > :20:34.President Trump. Very careful with me not to bite, on any of my
:20:35. > :20:39.questions about Donald Trump. He does not agree with you, are you
:20:40. > :20:43.going to meet him? He did not go to the round table that other tech
:20:44. > :20:49.leaders went to. Nevertheless, it gives an alternative view, over
:20:50. > :20:53.thousands of words. Well thought through, whatever you might think
:20:54. > :20:59.about the legitimacy of someone like Mark Zuckerberg talking about this.
:21:00. > :21:04.It was a well fought through from a 5500 word piece of work. In the
:21:05. > :21:07.present fee bra environment, it will be seen as an alternative manifesto
:21:08. > :21:13.to what we're seeing in the White House. This was quite a shift, when
:21:14. > :21:16.the fake news controversy surrounded the election day, he said it was
:21:17. > :21:23.nothing to do with us? He knows he called that wrong. The problem with
:21:24. > :21:28.a lot of these companies, Facebook, Google, they have a philosophy of
:21:29. > :21:32.put out product first, then if it goes wrong, call it iteration, we
:21:33. > :21:38.will change things. Here the technology has run ahead of the
:21:39. > :21:43.editorial skills are Facebook, to control material people are getting
:21:44. > :21:45.in their news feed. Mark Zuckerberg when interviewed by me, and this
:21:46. > :21:52.huge manifesto has said they need to do more to control fake news. What
:21:53. > :21:57.he said was interesting, it is not about banning fake news, it is about
:21:58. > :22:04.making it clear this piece of news is disputed. Very much against
:22:05. > :22:08.taking things down where possible. He's talking about more new ones to
:22:09. > :22:13.make sure good quality journalism gets to the top of people's news
:22:14. > :22:24.feed, rather than any journalism. You said it is a call to action, but
:22:25. > :22:28.what action does he want to call? Sometimes we find this Silicon
:22:29. > :22:35.Valley wording of it or getting connected. He's talking about
:22:36. > :22:39.building communities, he wants people to use Facebook, obviously,
:22:40. > :22:45.he's a businessman in the end. About how Facebook allows church groups,
:22:46. > :22:47.religious groups, civil society groups to work together within
:22:48. > :22:55.countries, across borders. How it can be used to create safe areas, if
:22:56. > :23:02.there is a natural disaster, to report on how people are responding
:23:03. > :23:07.to that. Really about building a digital infrastructure, to take the
:23:08. > :23:11.place of governments, that he says people are losing faith with. That
:23:12. > :23:17.does not mean globalisation has left people behind. If the
:23:18. > :23:25.infrastructures and the ways of working are not used, people will
:23:26. > :23:28.withdraw. He says making a direct connection to people in different
:23:29. > :23:34.countries, the European Union, what is going on in America, pulling up
:23:35. > :23:40.the drawbridge, he says his manifesto is part of that manifesto.
:23:41. > :23:45.Thank you for explaining that. If you want to read the manifesto from
:23:46. > :23:49.Mark Zuckerberg, not hard to find on Facebook. Let's return to that
:23:50. > :23:57.extraordinary press conference from Donald Trump. About three hours ago
:23:58. > :24:02.he gave one that went well over one hour. There was an extended
:24:03. > :24:07.question-and-answer session. We will fact checked some of the statement
:24:08. > :24:11.is the president has made. First of all, how much he has done since
:24:12. > :24:15.taking office. This last month as represented an unprecedented degree
:24:16. > :24:20.of action, on behalf of the great citizens of our country. There has
:24:21. > :24:26.never been a presidency that has done so much in such a little period
:24:27. > :24:31.of time. We have not even start of the big work, that start early next
:24:32. > :24:35.week. Some very big things will be announced next week. The president
:24:36. > :24:41.saying no other has done so much in so little time. A lot of executive
:24:42. > :24:45.orders, we have discussed them on Outside Source. You can see them
:24:46. > :24:52.listed on the White House website. These are not laws. Mr Trump has
:24:53. > :24:57.signed three laws, a waiver to allow James Matthews to sign as Defence
:24:58. > :25:00.Secretary, a rollback and regulations in terms of what oil
:25:01. > :25:04.companies have to disclose to foreign governments. If we making a
:25:05. > :25:10.comparison to President Obama, he has signed three laws, one of them
:25:11. > :25:13.was the American recovery and reinvestment Bill. That was in
:25:14. > :25:22.response to the global financial crisis, many analysts credited with
:25:23. > :25:26.restarting the American economy. Hard to quantify which president has
:25:27. > :25:31.done the most in their first month. Hard to say definitively Donald
:25:32. > :25:35.Trump has done. More fact checking in the second half of Outside
:25:36. > :25:40.Source. Any particular issues you want to pick up on can get in touch
:25:41. > :25:47.by e-mail and social media, if I cannot answer them, Anthony
:25:48. > :25:49.definitely will be able to. I will speak to you in two or three minutes
:25:50. > :26:13.time. Plenty more on the forecast in the
:26:14. > :26:15.UK before the top of the hour. Right now, whether stories from elsewhere
:26:16. > :26:16.around the world.