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:00:10. > :00:15.I'm Ros Atkins, this is Outside Source. The US Secretary of State

:00:16. > :00:19.has arrived in Moscow. He's got work to do because America's allies

:00:20. > :00:24.failed to agree how to pressure Russia on theisha of Syria. Rex

:00:25. > :00:29.Tillerson spoke earlier. I hope that what the Russian government

:00:30. > :00:31.concludes is that they have aligned themselves with an unreliable

:00:32. > :00:44.partner in President Assad. Someone as despicable as Hitler

:00:45. > :01:03.would didn't sink to using chemical weapons. Toshiba is in big trouble.

:01:04. > :01:06.Their survival is in question. Three explosions has hit a team bus

:01:07. > :01:09.window, Marc Bartra has been injured. This is ahead a Champions

:01:10. > :01:14.League game against Monaco which has been postponed. All the details on

:01:15. > :01:17.that. And as usual, as you're watching Outside Source, we're

:01:18. > :01:21.online as well. E-mail us, or get me on social media. Use the hashtag BBC

:01:22. > :01:39.OS. This time yesterday, I was talking

:01:40. > :01:43.to you about how the G 7 wanted to pressure Russia on its relationship

:01:44. > :01:48.with the Syrian government. We can scrap that. Canada, France, Germany,

:01:49. > :01:53.Italy, Japan, the UK and the US couldn't agree on how to do it. Now

:01:54. > :01:56.that was happening in Italy. We're now going to have to move to Moscow,

:01:57. > :02:01.because that is where the US Secretary of State, Rex Tillerson,

:02:02. > :02:05.has already arrived. Here are the pictures from earlier. Perhaps it

:02:06. > :02:09.was inevitable that this part of Syrian crisis would always boil down

:02:10. > :02:13.to Russia and America alone. Certainly that's how it will be

:02:14. > :02:17.tomorrow. Mr Tillerson will meet his counterpart Sergey Lavrov. Here is

:02:18. > :02:23.the Secretary of State speaking before he got on the flight. I hope

:02:24. > :02:27.that what the Russian government concludes is that they have aligned

:02:28. > :02:35.themselves with an unreliable partner in President Assad. They

:02:36. > :02:38.have signed, the chemical weapons themselves, the Russian government

:02:39. > :02:44.assigned that accord. Now Assad has made the Russians look not so good.

:02:45. > :02:49.The meetings in Moscow. As Rex Tillerson is making clear, the focus

:02:50. > :02:52.will be what happened in a Syrian town. We've talked about this many

:02:53. > :02:56.times in the last week. At least 89 people were killed in that chemical

:02:57. > :03:00.attack, which has been widely reported. The West blames the Syrian

:03:01. > :03:04.government for that attack. Here's an update on the US Defense

:03:05. > :03:08.Secretary, coming from Reuters, who has said, there is no doubt the

:03:09. > :03:15.Syrian government is responsible for that gas attack. The Syrian

:03:16. > :03:20.government flatly denies this. Here is Vladimir Putin talking earlier.

:03:21. > :03:25.TRANSLATION: We have information from various sources that similar

:03:26. > :03:30.provocations, I can't call them any differently, are being prepared in

:03:31. > :03:33.other parts of Syria too. Including the southern suburbs of Damascus,

:03:34. > :03:40.where they're preparing to release some sort of substance again.

:03:41. > :03:44.Let's turn to the analysis of our BBC Russia correspondent. This is

:03:45. > :03:50.the usual tactics used by Mr Putin in such circumstances. He never

:03:51. > :03:56.steps back under pressure and always just strikes back with some counter

:03:57. > :04:03.arguments. That is exactly what he did. It's very interesting that

:04:04. > :04:07.harsh language used by Mr Putin is contrasted by language used by

:04:08. > :04:11.Russian ministry of foreign affairs. The statement they issued recently

:04:12. > :04:17.says that they are full of hope and they're hoping that these

:04:18. > :04:20.negotiations will open a new page in bilateral relations and that the

:04:21. > :04:25.relations will become better. Also there are rumours that there mite

:04:26. > :04:28.antibiotic meeting between Mr Putin and Tillerson tomorrow, even though

:04:29. > :04:32.it's not confirmed by Putin's spokesman. But the fact that it's

:04:33. > :04:37.not declined at the moment tells us a lot. Definitely both Washington

:04:38. > :04:42.and especially Moscow are eager to talk and are eager to reach

:04:43. > :04:47.agreement on Syria. Because Russia has put a lot to that story and puts

:04:48. > :04:52.a lot of stakes, it hopes, that Syria, its position in Syria will

:04:53. > :04:55.help to reach it some new heights on international arena.

:04:56. > :05:01.There's a lot of pressure going into this meeting on Mr Tillerson. Here's

:05:02. > :05:05.a British blogger, Edward Hardy saying Tillerson's meeting will be a

:05:06. > :05:10.big test, if he fails to make ground, it will show that Trump

:05:11. > :05:15.hired a businessman, not a diplomat. Rex Tillerson headed Exxon Mobil for

:05:16. > :05:19.many years. This would be a tough test for any diplomat. There's a

:05:20. > :05:22.serious man across the table. Sergey Lavrov is a seasoned diplomat. Rex

:05:23. > :05:26.Tillerson not so much. Well that's quieght right. He hasn't

:05:27. > :05:29.been a diplomat for long. He has a long track record of working in

:05:30. > :05:34.Russia and working at the highest levels there. He knows this country

:05:35. > :05:39.and he knows the people at the top of it. We shall have to see how he

:05:40. > :05:42.does tomorrow. Let's get the analysis of the BBC's State

:05:43. > :05:47.Department correspondent. She's travelling with Rex Tillerson.. Rex

:05:48. > :05:52.Tillerson has quite a difficult task now that he has arrived. He has been

:05:53. > :05:58.saying very clearly that the Russians have backed the wrong side

:05:59. > :06:01.in the war and he wants them to think about re-aligning themselves,

:06:02. > :06:06.moving away from Bashar al-Assad and joining together with the Americans

:06:07. > :06:11.to try and come up with a political solution to Syria's Civil War. He's

:06:12. > :06:16.also going to want to ask them about what happened with this chemical

:06:17. > :06:19.weapons attack, why there still were chemical weapons there when there

:06:20. > :06:25.was agreement to eliminate them. He will press the Russians to make sure

:06:26. > :06:28.any further chemical weapons that exist are gotten rid of. Difficult

:06:29. > :06:31.things to discuss with a defiant tone from Moscow. Having said that,

:06:32. > :06:36.the Russian Foreign Ministry did release a statement today in which

:06:37. > :06:40.it outlined its concerns but also said it did not want confrontation,

:06:41. > :06:44.it wanted constructive cooperation with the Americans. So it is wanting

:06:45. > :06:48.to hear Mr Tillerson out, especially when it comes to what sort of

:06:49. > :06:52.bilateral relations Russia is going to have with the United States.

:06:53. > :06:56.Before Mr Tillerson flew to Moscow, he was in Italy at the gathering of

:06:57. > :06:59.G 7 foreign ministers. The aim was to get a unified position on Syria.

:07:00. > :07:03.But as I was saying, it didn't happen. The UK in particular pushed

:07:04. > :07:18.for more sanctions on Russia. But there was no deal to be had. James

:07:19. > :07:20.Forsythe says: James Robbins has been speaking to the Foreign

:07:21. > :07:24.Secretary. Here's some of their discussion.

:07:25. > :07:29.What we've agreed is that we will put forward a resolution in the UN

:07:30. > :07:39.Security Council on the chemical weapons attack. We want to see now

:07:40. > :07:42.the results of the investigation by the OPCW, whose job it is to

:07:43. > :07:49.establish exactly what happened. There was a very wide measure of

:07:50. > :07:58.agreement last night that, not just the Syrian generals, but if we could

:07:59. > :08:02.show complicity by those Russian officers who are helping the Syrian

:08:03. > :08:05.military operation, then they should also be sanctionable as well. The

:08:06. > :08:09.Syrians are never going to allow a proper investigation on what they

:08:10. > :08:15.allow as their sovereign territory. The bigger picture here is that we

:08:16. > :08:19.are moving now into an environment where I think the Russians have to

:08:20. > :08:24.make a choice. They basically change the game in Syria a couple of years

:08:25. > :08:32.ago, when they came in and they saved Assad. It turns out that the

:08:33. > :08:35.guy that they've saved is a man who has absolutely no compunction about

:08:36. > :08:38.murdering his own people with weapons that should have been banned

:08:39. > :08:42.100 years ago. Now a story generating a huge amount of comment

:08:43. > :08:46.online at the moment. Today's White House briefing with Sean spicer was

:08:47. > :08:51.remarkable in a number of ways, not least because it's resulted in the

:08:52. > :08:56.Anne Frank centre calling on Donald Trump to fire him now for engaging

:08:57. > :09:00.in Holocaust denial. They've released a longer statement on that.

:09:01. > :09:08.Mr Spicer was responding to questions about the chemical attack

:09:09. > :09:14.in Syria and he said this. We didn't use chemical weapons in World War

:09:15. > :09:20.II. You had someone as despicable as Hitler who didn't even sink to using

:09:21. > :09:24.chemical weapons. So you have to, if you're Russia, ask yourself - is

:09:25. > :09:27.this a country and a regime you want to align yourself with. Clearly

:09:28. > :09:34.there are a number of issues with that statement. He was then asked to

:09:35. > :09:39.clarify what he'd said. I think when you come to sarin gas, there was no,

:09:40. > :09:43.he was not using the gas on his own people the same way that Assad is

:09:44. > :09:50.doing. There was clearly... I understand your point, thank you. I

:09:51. > :09:53.appreciate that, there was not - he brought them into the Holocaust

:09:54. > :09:57.centre, I understand that. I'm saying in the way that Assad used

:09:58. > :10:01.them where he went into towns, dropped them down into the middle of

:10:02. > :10:06.towns, so the use of it, I appreciate the clarification there,

:10:07. > :10:10.that was not the intent. Unsurprisingly using the phrase

:10:11. > :10:18."Holocaust centre" to describe a concentration camp didn't help

:10:19. > :10:29.matters. In the immediate aftermath of that: I should say later on Mr

:10:30. > :10:35.Spicer e-mailed reporters to clarify his remarks. He said in no way was I

:10:36. > :10:39.trying to lessen the horrendous nature of the Holocaust. I was

:10:40. > :10:43.trying to draw a distinction of the tactic of using aeroplanes to drop

:10:44. > :10:47.chemical weapons on population centres. Any attack on innocent

:10:48. > :10:50.people is reprehensible and inexcusable. That wasn't the end of

:10:51. > :10:56.the briefing. Mr Spicer was talking about Syria again. He had this to

:10:57. > :11:02.say about Syria and its government's allies. The only countries that

:11:03. > :11:08.aren't supporting the US's position are Syria, North Korea, Iran and

:11:09. > :11:11.Russia. This is not exactly a happy time, cocktail party of people you

:11:12. > :11:17.want to be associated with. They are failed states with the exception of

:11:18. > :11:22.Russia. So there we have Sean Spicer describing Iran as a failed state

:11:23. > :11:25.and by any normal definition a failed state Iran certainly doesn't

:11:26. > :11:29.qualify for that description. Now let's turn to a story that has

:11:30. > :11:33.been developing in the last few hours in Germany, because a team bus

:11:34. > :11:36.carrying Borussia Dortmund to a Champions League quarter final has

:11:37. > :11:40.been damaged by multiple explosions. This is the bus in question. The

:11:41. > :11:44.team was scheduled to play Monaco, but the game's been pushed back 24

:11:45. > :11:49.hours, because of what's happened. We have this tweet from the police

:11:50. > :11:52.in Dortmund. We can confirm there have been three explosions in the

:11:53. > :11:59.area of the Borussia Dortmund team bus. One player has been taken to

:12:00. > :12:03.hospital. That player has been named as the Spanish international Marc

:12:04. > :12:08.Bartra. His condition, though, isn't considered serious. Let's go to the

:12:09. > :12:13.BBC Sport Centre. You've been pulling together what you know. Give

:12:14. > :12:16.us more details of the explosions and where they happened? They

:12:17. > :12:19.happened just outside the team hotel, a few kilometres from the

:12:20. > :12:25.ground. It broke about an hour-and-a-half before the game was

:12:26. > :12:28.due to take place. What you know is there were three explosions. The bus

:12:29. > :12:30.there, there it is in the background, with the fire engine in

:12:31. > :12:33.the foreground, you can see the the foreground, you can see the

:12:34. > :12:37.windows of the bus have actually been slightly blown out there. Marc

:12:38. > :12:41.Bartra was the man you mentioned, the former Barcelona and Spanish

:12:42. > :12:46.international who's been with Borussia Dortmund since 206. The

:12:47. > :12:49.police sending out tweets. Social media went into melt down. That's

:12:50. > :12:52.the team working away with the German police after the incident.

:12:53. > :12:55.This inside the ground, it was relayed to the supporters inned so

:12:56. > :13:02.the ground for both teams who were there, that the match would be

:13:03. > :13:07.suspended, postponed and put back to 1645 GMT, 1745 BST on Wednesday. Now

:13:08. > :13:13.what happened at the ground was the Monaco supporters, in fairness to

:13:14. > :13:19.them, they were behind the Dortmund team, chanting, Dortmund, Dortmund,

:13:20. > :13:22.Dortmund. It was remarkably well handled by the German police and

:13:23. > :13:26.social media. Thank you very much indeed. We will come back to you

:13:27. > :13:30.later to talk about the other quarter final, that is going ahead,

:13:31. > :13:33.between Juventus and Barcelona. Last time I looked it was going well for

:13:34. > :13:40.Juventus. That is covered through the BBC Sport app.

:13:41. > :13:45.Stay with us here on Outside Source. We turn to Washington state in the

:13:46. > :13:49.US later to look at the issue of vaccine scepticism and where it may

:13:50. > :13:57.or may not fit in to the Trump administration's plans.

:13:58. > :14:02.The parents of an eight-month-old baby boy say they're devastated

:14:03. > :14:06.after the High Court ruled that doctors can withdraw his life

:14:07. > :14:11.support. The parents of Charlie Gard broke down in tears as they heard

:14:12. > :14:15.the decision. He has a rare genetic condition and brain damage. His

:14:16. > :14:19.parents have raised more than ?1 million to take him to America for

:14:20. > :14:24.experimental treatment. Their solicitor gave her reaction to the

:14:25. > :14:28.decision. This court has had to face one of the most fundamental issues

:14:29. > :14:32.for any court. It has not been easy. Lessons need to be learned about how

:14:33. > :14:36.medical professionals face decisions such as this, how they act with

:14:37. > :14:39.sufficient speed, and how they communicate with the families of

:14:40. > :14:44.desperately ill children, such as Charlie. It is regrettable and

:14:45. > :14:47.inexplicable that much of the reasoning for their decisions only

:14:48. > :14:52.came to light after proceedings had been issued. It is too simplistic to

:14:53. > :14:54.say had matters been handled better Charlie would be well, but

:14:55. > :15:10.undoubtedly it did not assist. We're live in the BBC Newsroom. Our

:15:11. > :15:13.lead story concerns Rex Tillerson, the US Secretary of State is in

:15:14. > :15:17.Russia and there are a lot of people looking ahead to his meeting with

:15:18. > :15:21.his counterpart, Sergey Lavrov. It will happen on Tuesday and Russia's

:15:22. > :15:24.position on Syria will be top of the agenda.

:15:25. > :15:28.Let's bring you the main stories from BBC World Service. First of

:15:29. > :15:35.all, BBC Arabic has new details on claims that migrants are being sold

:15:36. > :15:40.in slave markets in Libya. Toshiba has filed delayed financial reports,

:15:41. > :15:45.warning that the company's survival is at stake.

:15:46. > :15:48.An Uzbek man, suspected of carrying out the Stockholm attack last week,

:15:49. > :15:54.has confessed to a terrorist crime in court. That's from BBC Uzbek.

:15:55. > :15:59.This is one of the most watched videos on the BBC News app. That is

:16:00. > :16:09.Queen Elizabeth and Prince Philip feeding bananas to an elephant here

:16:10. > :16:15.in the UK. Now President Trump has been meeting

:16:16. > :16:21.a number of chief executives to talk about his plans for infrastructure.

:16:22. > :16:29.The CEO of, I apologise, we will speak to Samira in a minute. : He's

:16:30. > :16:32.trying to gain support for a $1 trillion infrastructure programme,

:16:33. > :16:35.fixing bridges and modernising airports. He wants to make changes

:16:36. > :16:40.to the tax system and to look at regulation. He has a range of plans.

:16:41. > :16:46.We saw Samira briefly. Let's bring you in properly. You made a brief

:16:47. > :16:52.appearance there. Talk to me about where the CEOs fit into Donald

:16:53. > :16:54.Trump's plans. For Donald Trump meeting with business leaders is

:16:55. > :17:00.something that he has done several times. We see these CEOs coming to

:17:01. > :17:03.the White House often. This is really very comfortable territory

:17:04. > :17:05.for him. He understands business. He understands business leaders and

:17:06. > :17:12.speaking to them is something that he is very comfortable doing. Now

:17:13. > :17:16.what he wants is to see how he can get private, these businesses, these

:17:17. > :17:20.CEOs to invest in some of the infrastructure spending that he

:17:21. > :17:24.wants to have happen. President Trump has long said when it comes to

:17:25. > :17:28.infrastructure spending plans, he wants to see both public money, so

:17:29. > :17:31.that's government money, and also private companies come in with some

:17:32. > :17:35.money to try and fix America's roads and bridges. In terms of the

:17:36. > :17:38.funding, with regards to infrastructure, is he likely to be

:17:39. > :17:45.able to get that through Congress relatively easily? That is, of

:17:46. > :17:49.course, the $1 trillion question. With what happened with health care,

:17:50. > :17:52.it's really set a lot of people back. In fact, if you look at US

:17:53. > :17:56.markets and how they've been trading in the last day or so, there's a bit

:17:57. > :17:59.of hesitation, when it comes to Donald Trump and the administration,

:18:00. > :18:04.in terms of what they can actually get accomplished. You know, even at

:18:05. > :18:08.the outset of this meeting at the White House, we heard the president

:18:09. > :18:12.talk again about rolling back the banking regulations. Again,

:18:13. > :18:15.something that Wall Street really cheered. But how likely is he to be

:18:16. > :18:20.able to get some of that pushed through? That's where there's a lot

:18:21. > :18:24.of question and perhaps uncertainty that that confidence that Wall

:18:25. > :18:31.Street once had may be shifting just a little bit. Thank you. Next,

:18:32. > :18:34.business, we talk about Shell. It's unveiled details of how it will

:18:35. > :18:39.decommission four huge oil rigs in the North Sea. To do this, it's got

:18:40. > :18:43.this ship. It's quite something. It's the pine eeering spirit, the

:18:44. > :18:48.largest construction vessel ever built. This summer it will lift the

:18:49. > :18:54.top part of Brent Delta oil rig, which weighs more than 24,000 tons,

:18:55. > :19:05.then take it to the north of England, where it's going to be

:19:06. > :19:09.dismantled. Now Toshiba, we've talked about this a number of times.

:19:10. > :19:15.It's delayed its financial results, but they're out, revealing big

:19:16. > :19:27.losses. In a statement, lest under of us underestimated the situation.

:19:28. > :19:32.It says: The reports are that it could be in line to make 4. $4.8

:19:33. > :19:36.billion loss from April to December last year. The reason I'm saying

:19:37. > :19:41.that with some doubt is these results have not been approved by

:19:42. > :19:45.Toshiba's auditors. This is what's happening to the share price since

:19:46. > :19:49.December. Very sharply down. That's when it became clear that its

:19:50. > :19:55.nuclear business in the US was in deep financial trouble. The BBC's

:19:56. > :20:10.correspondent in Tokyo has more now. These were the greatest brands in

:20:11. > :20:14.consumer goods for decades, Toshiba, Panasonic, Sony, Hitachi, so how did

:20:15. > :20:18.we end up here? First of all, the Chinese and the Koreans came along

:20:19. > :20:22.and they could make these things just as well, but much cheaper.

:20:23. > :20:27.Secondly, perhaps more important, these Japanese companies lost their

:20:28. > :20:30.mojo. They forget how to innovate. The country that invented the

:20:31. > :20:41.walkman did not go on to invent the smartphone. Inside a vast exhibition

:20:42. > :20:47.hall, more than 3,000 new recruits are being inducted into one of

:20:48. > :20:50.Japan's big corporations. A lot of these young people can expect to

:20:51. > :20:57.spend the whole of their career in this one company. It will become

:20:58. > :21:04.their second home. They'll expect to work hard, long hours and wait their

:21:05. > :21:10.turn for promotion. It's a model that's worked well for Japan in the

:21:11. > :21:13.past. But it has real problems. In this ridge it corporate hierarchy

:21:14. > :21:21.promotion is based on age, not on talent. It's a culture which is

:21:22. > :21:27.resistant to change and bad at producing new ideas. Toshiba is not

:21:28. > :21:33.alone. Other famous Japanese names have been through deep crises. Last

:21:34. > :21:37.year Sharp was sold to a Taiwanese company. Now Toshiba will be broken

:21:38. > :21:44.up, its best bits sold off to the highest bidder.

:21:45. > :21:47.As you may have noticed, there are many stories tonight that in some

:21:48. > :21:51.way connect with the Trump administration. Here's another one.

:21:52. > :21:56.There are suggestions that Mr Trump could commission a new vaccine

:21:57. > :22:00.safety committee and that's worrying some doctors. One of the reasons

:22:01. > :22:03.they're worried is there are suggestions this man Robert Kennedy

:22:04. > :22:08.junior could be the head of that new body. He's a known vaccine sceptic.

:22:09. > :22:12.We should be clear, none of this has been confirmed, but these

:22:13. > :22:16.suggestions are raising the broader issue of vaccine scepticism and how,

:22:17. > :22:21.for some, it's become very persuasive.

:22:22. > :22:26.I have a report on this now. We've been to Washington state to Vashon

:22:27. > :22:36.Island, it has some of the lowest rates of vaccination in the US. Your

:22:37. > :22:41.attention please... Welcome to Vashon Island, a few miles off the

:22:42. > :22:46.Seattle coast. It's a small, affluent community that embraces

:22:47. > :22:50.natural, clean living. These children's parents want the absolute

:22:51. > :22:57.best for them, like any medication, vaccines can cause mild and in very

:22:58. > :23:00.rare cases serious side effects. The scientific consensus on them is

:23:01. > :23:06.clear - they're safe, effective and save lives. These mums are still

:23:07. > :23:10.unconvinced. We live in a society that values profit over public

:23:11. > :23:14.health. So we really have to do our own research to find how safe they

:23:15. > :23:20.are. There was a huge amount of evidence that it was harmful, even

:23:21. > :23:25.if they weren't ways we could scientifically prove it, it was

:23:26. > :23:30.talking from one mother to another. Here, like many other parts of the

:23:31. > :23:34.US, parents can opt out of vaccinating their children for

:23:35. > :23:40.personal reasons. But the issue has caused deep divides in this tight

:23:41. > :23:45.knit community. Four-year-old twins are getting right up to date with

:23:46. > :23:50.their vaccinations today. There's never been any doubt that that's the

:23:51. > :23:55.right thing to do. It may be painful, but these shots protect

:23:56. > :24:03.against deadly diseases including peesels, which before Vax --

:24:04. > :24:06.measles, and whooping cough is a major concern. If we don't immunise

:24:07. > :24:10.enough of the children in the school, then on a fairly regular

:24:11. > :24:14.basis the whooping cough epidemic can grow in the school and then the

:24:15. > :24:18.most dangerous part is those infections can be taken home and a

:24:19. > :24:23.little baby could be infected. That can be fatal.

:24:24. > :24:28.This is the man would wants to chair a vaccine safety committee for the

:24:29. > :24:32.Trump administration. He completely dismisses the scientific consensus

:24:33. > :24:35.on vaccines. I don't believe government officials and I don't

:24:36. > :24:40.believe, you know, I have to be sceptical. We all ought to be

:24:41. > :24:44.sceptical. The president's own scientifically unfounded comments in

:24:45. > :24:49.the past have also caused alarm. The beautiful child went to have the

:24:50. > :24:55.vaccine and came back and a week later got a tremendous fever, got

:24:56. > :25:00.very, very sick, now is autistic. He appealed to emotion. He appealed to

:25:01. > :25:03.fear. We know that vaccines don't cause autism. We are concerned that

:25:04. > :25:09.statements like this could deter families from getting vaccines. Back

:25:10. > :25:14.at the clinic, the girls are getting over their injections. But for their

:25:15. > :25:20.parents, the greater good for the health of the island is worth their

:25:21. > :25:24.tears. You can get more on that story

:25:25. > :25:29.online as well. Let's lock at what's coming up in the next half an hour,

:25:30. > :25:34.we've got, well, this is the North Pole mare thorn. These guys are

:25:35. > :25:38.seriously impressive runners. We'll bring you more pictures of those. We

:25:39. > :25:43.have to turn to this astonishing video, which was bad for United when

:25:44. > :25:45.it came out. It's getting a lot worse, because of how United has

:25:46. > :25:50.responded. We'll talk about that as well. That's coming up on Outside

:25:51. > :25:55.Source. I'll speak to you in a couple of minutes.