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:00:11. > :00:16.I'm Ross Atkins, welcome to outside source. When he became president

:00:17. > :00:21.Donald Trump promised closer cooperation with Russia. This is how

:00:22. > :00:25.it's going. There is a low level of trust between our countries. The

:00:26. > :00:30.world's two foremost nuclear powers cannot have this kind of

:00:31. > :00:34.relationship. Vladimir Putin is no more optimistic about that

:00:35. > :00:40.relationship. On a working level especially on the military level it

:00:41. > :00:44.has not improved. But rather has deteriorated. Will bring you the

:00:45. > :00:48.latest from Moscow and expect a press conference from Donald Trump

:00:49. > :00:51.and the Nato Secretary General. When that happens in Washington, you'll

:00:52. > :00:55.see it here on outside source. We report from Germany where a man with

:00:56. > :01:03.Islamist links has been detained in connection with that attack. On the

:01:04. > :01:07.Borussia Dortmund team bus. Ahmadinejad has registered to stand

:01:08. > :01:11.for president again. Stories from South Africa, North Korea and

:01:12. > :01:14.Chechnya. If you have questions on any, you can go and e-mail, social

:01:15. > :01:33.media, and the hashtag is BBC OS. If you thought once the Russians and

:01:34. > :01:38.Americans got face-to-face things might improve I'm afraid you'll be

:01:39. > :01:41.disappointed. Rex Tillerson and Sergey Lavrov held a joint press

:01:42. > :01:47.conference a couple of hours back in Moscow. First of all, here is the

:01:48. > :01:51.Secretary of State. Expressed the view the current state of US Russia

:01:52. > :01:57.relations is that a low point. There is a low level of trust between our

:01:58. > :02:01.two countries. The world's two foremost nuclear powers cannot have

:02:02. > :02:04.this kind of relationship. We further discussed approaches to

:02:05. > :02:10.improving our channels of communication. We had a lengthy

:02:11. > :02:13.exchange of views regarding the situation in Syria. And shared

:02:14. > :02:23.perspectives on possible ways forward. The Russian Foreign

:02:24. > :02:27.Minister was a little more positive. My sense of the negotiations, with

:02:28. > :02:34.the plethora of problems, there are quite a few perspectives for our

:02:35. > :02:39.giant work. Russia is open for dialogue with the United States and

:02:40. > :02:43.various areas, not only for the dialogue, but for joint action is

:02:44. > :02:51.aimed at the result in the areas where there is common interest in

:02:52. > :02:57.both countries. And of course we expect reciprocity from the United

:02:58. > :03:01.States. I'm positive to date's meeting that have spanned hours with

:03:02. > :03:09.Rex Tillerson, the two of us along with the Russian president, have

:03:10. > :03:12.helped raise it. Rex Tillerson also met Vladimir Putin. They'd met

:03:13. > :03:17.before, several times, when Mr Tillerson was CEO of Exxon Mobil. Mr

:03:18. > :03:24.Tillerson has been awarded the order of friendship, the highest honour a

:03:25. > :03:28.foreigner can receive in Russia. This is what President Putin said

:03:29. > :03:32.before the meeting today. TRANSLATION: It's possible to say on

:03:33. > :03:37.the level of trust on a working level, especially on the military

:03:38. > :03:43.level, it has not improved, but rather has deteriorated. Tension, as

:03:44. > :03:48.you'll know, has been ratcheting between Russia and the US since last

:03:49. > :03:51.week's chemical attack Syria. They disagree on whether the Assad regime

:03:52. > :03:56.was responsible for what happened there. Donald Trump has again

:03:57. > :04:02.returned to that issue. Here is what he said. Frankly, we talked

:04:03. > :04:08.chemicals, people just don't see this, the level of mortality, the

:04:09. > :04:12.level of viciousness. When they drop barrel bombs and bombs of any kind

:04:13. > :04:15.right on top of a civilian population, that's the worst thing,

:04:16. > :04:23.I've never seen anything like it. And frankly Putin is backing a

:04:24. > :04:28.person that is truly an evil person. And I think it is very bad for

:04:29. > :04:33.Russia, I think it is a very bad for mankind, very bad for this world.

:04:34. > :04:36.Donald Trump in an interview. His press conference with the

:04:37. > :04:41.secretary-general of Nato has just started in Washington, DC. There it

:04:42. > :04:46.is. I also want to acknowledge the great work being done by our

:04:47. > :04:53.Secretary of State, Rex Tillerson, to strengthen the Nato alliance, as

:04:54. > :04:57.well as the Secretary's trip to Moscow to promote the security

:04:58. > :05:01.interests of the United States and its allies. He did a terrific job,

:05:02. > :05:07.just watched parts of it, did an absolutely terrific job. 68 years

:05:08. > :05:13.ago this month, not far from where we are gathered today, President

:05:14. > :05:18.Harry Truman spoke at the signing of the North Atlantic Treaty. In the

:05:19. > :05:27.nearly seven decades since Harry Truman spoke those words, the Nato

:05:28. > :05:34.alliance has been the ball work of international peace and security. --

:05:35. > :05:41.they liberated the captive nations of the Cold War. They secured the

:05:42. > :05:47.longest period of unbroken peace that Europe has ever known. This

:05:48. > :05:55.enduring partnership is rooted out of so many different things. But our

:05:56. > :06:03.common security is always number one and our common devotion to human

:06:04. > :06:10.dignity and freedom. Since 1949 the Nato member states have more than

:06:11. > :06:15.doubled, increasing from 12 to 28. On Monday I signed the protocol to

:06:16. > :06:23.approve the 29th. The country of Montenegro. In the coming months and

:06:24. > :06:28.years, I worked closely with all of our Nato allies. To enhance this

:06:29. > :06:33.partnership, and to adapt to the challenges of the future, of which

:06:34. > :06:40.there will be many. This includes upgrading Nato to focus on today's

:06:41. > :06:46.most pressing security and all of its challenges, including migration

:06:47. > :06:55.and terrorism. We must also work together to resolve the disaster

:06:56. > :07:02.currently taking place in Syria. We are grateful for the support of Nato

:07:03. > :07:04.members and partners in their condemnation of Assad's murderous

:07:05. > :07:11.attack using the most horrible weapons. The most vicious slaughter

:07:12. > :07:12.of innocent civilians with chemical weapons, including the barbaric

:07:13. > :07:19.killing of small and helpless children and babies, must be

:07:20. > :07:28.forcefully rejected by any nation that values human life. It is time

:07:29. > :07:33.to end this brutal civil war, defeat terrorists, and allow refugees to

:07:34. > :07:40.return home. In facing our common challenges, we must also ensure Nato

:07:41. > :07:45.members meet their financial obligations and pay what they owe.

:07:46. > :07:51.Many have not been doing that. The secretary-general and I agree other

:07:52. > :07:56.member nations must satisfy their responsibility to contribute 2% of

:07:57. > :08:00.GDP to defence. If other countries pay their fair share instead of

:08:01. > :08:06.relying on the United States to make up the difference, we would all be

:08:07. > :08:11.much more secure. And our partnership would be made that much

:08:12. > :08:15.stronger. The secretary-general and I had a productive discussion about

:08:16. > :08:20.what more Nato can do in the fight against terrorism. I complained

:08:21. > :08:27.about that a long time ago and they made a change. And now they do fight

:08:28. > :08:32.terrorism. I said it was obsolete. It's no longer obsolete. It's my

:08:33. > :08:38.hope that Nato will take on an increased role in supporting our

:08:39. > :08:44.Iraqi partners in their battle against Isis. I'm also sending

:08:45. > :08:49.General McMaster to Afghanistan to find out how we can make progress

:08:50. > :08:55.alongside our Afghan partners and Nato allies. Every generation has

:08:56. > :09:00.strived to adopt the Nato alliance to meet the challenges of their

:09:01. > :09:06.times. And on my visit to Brussels this spring, which I look very much

:09:07. > :09:14.forward to, we will work together to do the same. We must not be trapped

:09:15. > :09:19.by the tired thinking that so many have, but apply new solutions to

:09:20. > :09:26.face new circumstances. And that is all throughout the world. We're not

:09:27. > :09:29.here to stand on ceremony, but to develop real strategies to achieve

:09:30. > :09:34.safety, security and peace. We're here to the freedom and prosperity

:09:35. > :09:39.of our citizens, and to give them the future they so richly deserve.

:09:40. > :09:47.Secretary-general, I'm honoured to have you here today, and to reaffirm

:09:48. > :09:51.our commitment to this alliance, and to be injuring values that we

:09:52. > :09:59.proudly, and I mean very proudly, share. Thank you very much, thank

:10:00. > :10:03.you for being here. Thank you. Thank you so much Mr President. We just

:10:04. > :10:07.had an excellent and very productive meeting, it's really an honour to

:10:08. > :10:15.meet you for the first time here in the White House. We agree that Nato

:10:16. > :10:23.is a bedrock of security, both for Europe and for the United States.

:10:24. > :10:28.Raw world wars and a Cold War have taught us all that peace in Europe

:10:29. > :10:32.is not only important for Europeans but is also important for the

:10:33. > :10:41.prosperity and security of North America. So, a strong note to -- a

:10:42. > :10:44.strong Nato is good for Europe, but it's also good for the United

:10:45. > :10:51.States. Therefore, I welcome the very strong commitment of the United

:10:52. > :10:57.States to the security of Europe. We see this commitment not only in

:10:58. > :11:04.words, but also indeed. Over the past months, thousands of US troops

:11:05. > :11:08.have been deploying to Europe. A clear demonstration that America

:11:09. > :11:14.stands with allies to protect peace and defend our freedom. And

:11:15. > :11:20.yesterday you announced the completion of the ratification of

:11:21. > :11:24.Montenegro's membership in Nato, another expression of your strong

:11:25. > :11:28.commitment to Europe and the transatlantic bond and we thank you

:11:29. > :11:33.for that. In a more dangerous and more unpredictable world, it is

:11:34. > :11:39.important to have friends and allies. And in Nato, America has the

:11:40. > :11:46.best friends and the best allies in the world. Together, we represent

:11:47. > :11:53.half of the world's economic and military power. No other superpower

:11:54. > :12:03.has ever had such a strategic advantage. This makes united states

:12:04. > :12:10.stronger and safer. We saw that after the 9-11 attacks on the United

:12:11. > :12:20.States. That was the first time Nato invoked Article five. Allies sent

:12:21. > :12:24.surveillance planes to help patrol American skies. And be launched

:12:25. > :12:32.Nato's biggest military operation ever in Afghanistan. Hundreds of

:12:33. > :12:38.thousands of Europeans and Canadian soldiers have served shoulder to

:12:39. > :12:47.shoulder with American troops. More than 1000 have paid the ultimate

:12:48. > :12:53.price. Earlier today, I laid a wreath at Arlington National

:12:54. > :13:00.Cemetery in tribute to the fallen. It was a deeply moving experience.

:13:01. > :13:03.We owe it to our service men and women to preserve the hard earned

:13:04. > :13:12.games we made together in Afghanistan. We were reminded of

:13:13. > :13:19.their sacrifice just this week when a US soldier was killed there

:13:20. > :13:22.fighting Isil. Our mission in Afghanistan is a major contribution

:13:23. > :13:31.to the fight against international terrorism. Nato plays a key role in

:13:32. > :13:37.many other ways also. All Nato allies are part of the global

:13:38. > :13:42.coalition to counter Isil. Nato provides direct support to the

:13:43. > :13:45.coalition with training for Iraqi forces in the fight against

:13:46. > :13:52.terrorists, and more intelligence sharing. You are right, we have

:13:53. > :13:55.established a new division for intelligence which enhances our

:13:56. > :13:58.ability to fight terrorism, and working together in the alliance to

:13:59. > :14:06.fight terrorism in eight more effective way. -- in an even more

:14:07. > :14:12.effective way. Nato can and must do more in the global fight against

:14:13. > :14:16.terrorism. In the fight against terrorism, training local forces is

:14:17. > :14:21.one of the best weapons we have. Nato has the experience, the

:14:22. > :14:27.expertise, and the staying power, to make a real difference. And fighting

:14:28. > :14:36.terrorism will be an important topic when Nato leaders meet in Brussels

:14:37. > :14:43.in May. The other major topic will be fair burden sharing. We had a

:14:44. > :14:52.thorough discussion on this issue today. Mr President, I thank you for

:14:53. > :14:56.your attention to this issue. We are already seeing the effect of your

:14:57. > :15:03.strong focus on the importance of burden sharing in the alliance. We

:15:04. > :15:08.agree that allies need to redouble their efforts to meet the pledge we

:15:09. > :15:16.all made in 2014 to invest more in our alliance. It is about spending

:15:17. > :15:20.more on defence, it is about delivering the capabilities we need,

:15:21. > :15:31.and it is about contributing forces to Nato missions and operations.

:15:32. > :15:35.This means capabilities and contributions. Fair burden sharing

:15:36. > :15:40.has been my top priority since taking office. We have now turned a

:15:41. > :15:46.corner. In 2016, for the first time in many years, we saw an increase in

:15:47. > :15:54.defence spending across European allies and Canada. A real increase

:15:55. > :16:02.of 3.8%, $10 billion more for our defence. We're now working to keep

:16:03. > :16:10.up the momentum, including by developing national plans outlining

:16:11. > :16:15.how to make good on what we agreed in 2014. We all know we need to

:16:16. > :16:23.contribute our fair share, because we need to keep our nation safe in a

:16:24. > :16:28.more dangerous world. We discussed many different topics during our

:16:29. > :16:35.meeting today, including the Hugh renders use of chemical weapons in

:16:36. > :16:37.Syria. -- the horrendous use of chemical weapons. It is

:16:38. > :16:45.unacceptable, cannot go unanswered, and those responsible must be held

:16:46. > :16:47.accountable. So, Mr President, thank you once again, I look forward to

:16:48. > :16:52.working with you to keeping the alliance strong, and I look forward

:16:53. > :16:58.to welcoming you to Brussels in May when heads of state and the Alliance

:16:59. > :17:02.meet to address the challenges and the need to continue to adapt the

:17:03. > :17:08.alliance to a more challenging security environment and to respond

:17:09. > :17:13.to the need for Sarah burden sharing and stepping up our efforts to fight

:17:14. > :17:22.international terrorism. -- for fairer burden sharing. Couple of

:17:23. > :17:27.questions. Jeff Mason? Thank you Mr President, I'd like to ask about two

:17:28. > :17:31.topics if I may. First, as your view of Vladimir Putin changed after what

:17:32. > :17:35.has happened in Syria? And what is the United States prepared to do if

:17:36. > :17:41.he continues to sport Assad? A separate question. Have you made a

:17:42. > :17:44.deal after your chat last night with the president of China about China

:17:45. > :17:48.helping to rein in North Korea, and is it one reason you've decided not

:17:49. > :17:55.to label Beijing a currency manipulator. I'll be speaking to...

:17:56. > :18:00.Yeah, you want to go ahead? Secretary General, do you believe

:18:01. > :18:04.Nato should continue to bolster its presence along the alliance eastern

:18:05. > :18:09.border and are you confident you have President Trump and the United

:18:10. > :18:12.States support for that? I'll be speaking with Rex Tillerson in a

:18:13. > :18:16.little while, calling in. I think he had a very successful meeting in

:18:17. > :18:21.Russia. We'll see, we'll see the end result, which will be in a long

:18:22. > :18:27.period of time perhaps. But the end result is what is most important,

:18:28. > :18:30.not just talk. I think based on everything I'm hearing things went

:18:31. > :18:37.pretty well, maybe better than into speeded. -- better than anticipated.

:18:38. > :18:41.It would be wonderful, as we were discussing a little while ago, if

:18:42. > :18:45.Nato and our country could get along with Russia. Right now we're not

:18:46. > :18:49.getting on with Russia at all, we may be at an all-time low in terms

:18:50. > :18:55.of relationship with Russia. This is built for a long period of time.

:18:56. > :19:00.We'll see what happens. Putin is the leader of Russia. Russia is a strong

:19:01. > :19:06.country. We are a very, very strong country. We'll see how that all

:19:07. > :19:12.works out. Last night, separately, I spoke with a man I've gotten to

:19:13. > :19:16.know. I don't know Putin from but I do know this gentleman, I've spent a

:19:17. > :19:20.lot of time with him over the last two days, and he is the president of

:19:21. > :19:28.China. You were there, most of you were there, it was quite an

:19:29. > :19:33.interesting period of time. President Xi wants to do the right

:19:34. > :19:37.thing. We had a very good bonding, we had a very good chemistry

:19:38. > :19:41.together. I think he wants to help us with North Korea. We talked

:19:42. > :19:45.trade, we talked a lot of things. I said the way you will make a good

:19:46. > :19:49.trade deal is to help us with North Korea otherwise we'll go it alone,

:19:50. > :19:55.that'll be all right too. Going alone means going it with lots of

:19:56. > :19:58.other nations. I was very impressed with President Xi Jinping. And I

:19:59. > :20:04.think he means well and I think he wants to help. We'll see whether or

:20:05. > :20:08.not he does. Do you feel like you have a deal with him? Do you feel

:20:09. > :20:13.like you have a deal in terms of the currency manipulation, designation,

:20:14. > :20:18.and have your views changed on Putin? We're going to see about

:20:19. > :20:21.that. I also see about Putin over a period of time. It would be a

:20:22. > :20:26.fantastic thing if we got along with Putin and with Russia, that could

:20:27. > :20:30.happen. It may not happen, it could be the opposite. I can only tell you

:20:31. > :20:36.what I would like to do, I'd love to be able to get along with everybody.

:20:37. > :20:39.Right now the world is a mess. But I think by the time we finish it's

:20:40. > :20:43.going to be a lot better place to live. I can tell you that speaking

:20:44. > :20:48.for myself, by the time I'm finished it's going to be a lot better place

:20:49. > :20:54.to live in. Because right now it's nasty. Nato is in the process of

:20:55. > :21:00.implement in the biggest reinforcement of our collective

:21:01. > :21:06.defence. One element of that is to increase our military presence in

:21:07. > :21:08.the eastern part of the alliance. We are now deploying four battlegroups

:21:09. > :21:13.to the two Baltic countries and Poland. There will also be more US

:21:14. > :21:17.forces in that part of Europe. This is the first time in many, many

:21:18. > :21:20.years we see an increase in the military presence of the United

:21:21. > :21:25.States in Europe. So we are increasing our presence and they are

:21:26. > :21:32.also increasing the readiness and preparedness forces so we can

:21:33. > :21:35.quickly reinforce if needed. We consider the presence we will have

:21:36. > :21:41.when the four battlegroups are in place as sufficient, given the

:21:42. > :21:45.current security situation in Europe. But of course we will assess

:21:46. > :21:51.the situation and follow the developments very closely. The

:21:52. > :21:56.message from Nato is that what we do is proportionate, it is defensive,

:21:57. > :22:00.and we don't want a new Cold War, we don't want a new arms race. We

:22:01. > :22:06.strongly believe there is no contradiction between a strong Nato,

:22:07. > :22:12.credible deterrence and defence, and political dialogue with Russia. We

:22:13. > :22:16.believe a precondition for political dialogue with Russia is that we are

:22:17. > :22:20.strong and united, but based on that we can talk to Russia because Russia

:22:21. > :22:25.is our neighbour, Russia is here to stay, so we have to find ways to

:22:26. > :22:28.manage our relationship with Russia. I'm absolutely certain the United

:22:29. > :22:33.States supports this approach, partly because the United States is

:22:34. > :22:36.contributing with forces to enhance the presence in the eastern part of

:22:37. > :22:41.the alliance, also in the south-east of the alliance in Romania. The

:22:42. > :22:46.United States and the president has clearly expressed they want dialogue

:22:47. > :22:57.with Russia based on unity and strength in the alliance. The next

:22:58. > :23:01.question is from Jon Sopel. Thank you very much. Secretary General,

:23:02. > :23:05.how long do you think it'll take you to persuade the other European

:23:06. > :23:08.countries to burden share? And what are you going to do to persuade

:23:09. > :23:17.them? Mr President could I ask you... I like that question. I'm

:23:18. > :23:21.here to help. Mr President do you think it's conceivable... What is

:23:22. > :23:24.your instinct? Is it possible Syrian forces could have launched that

:23:25. > :23:31.attack in Italy last week without the Russians knowing? And have you

:23:32. > :23:37.been disappointed, surprised, by Vladimir Putin's reaction since

:23:38. > :23:43.then? I think it's certainly possible, I think it's probably

:23:44. > :23:47.unlikely. I know they're doing investigations into that right now.

:23:48. > :23:50.I would like to think that they didn't know. Certainly they could

:23:51. > :23:57.have. They were there. So we'll find out. General Mattis is looking at it

:23:58. > :24:03.with the entire Pentagon group that does that kind of work. I was very

:24:04. > :24:06.disappointed to see, it is disappointing no matter who does it,

:24:07. > :24:10.but when you get into the gases, especially that form, it is vicious

:24:11. > :24:16.and violent, and everybody in this room saw it, all too many times over

:24:17. > :24:21.the last three or four days. Young children dying, babies dying.

:24:22. > :24:27.Fathers holding children in their arms that were dead, dead children.

:24:28. > :24:34.There can't be worse and it shouldn't be allowed. That's a

:24:35. > :24:38.butcher. That's a butcher. I felt we had to do something about it. I have

:24:39. > :24:42.absolutely no doubt we did the right thing. And it was very, very

:24:43. > :24:50.successfully done, as you well know. Thank you. And defence spending and

:24:51. > :24:55.burden sharing, that has been my top priority. I've raised it in all my

:24:56. > :24:58.meetings in all capitals I visited with prime ministers, presidents,

:24:59. > :25:07.Minister of Finance and defence and foreign ministers. I expect some of

:25:08. > :25:11.course, all allies... They find it in 2014. The strong and clear

:25:12. > :25:14.message from President Trump has been very helpful, so now we see

:25:15. > :25:20.things are starting to move in the right direction. For the first time

:25:21. > :25:22.after many many years of decline in defence spending, we see an increase

:25:23. > :25:29.in defence spending across Europe and Canada. They've started to move

:25:30. > :25:33.in the right direction. 3.8% real increase in defence spending across

:25:34. > :25:36.Europe and Canada is a significant step in the right direction. It's

:25:37. > :25:41.not enough, we still have a long way to go, but at least they have turned

:25:42. > :25:45.a corner, the European allies have turned a corner, instead of reducing

:25:46. > :25:50.defence spending, they will start to increase. I think it's important to

:25:51. > :25:55.remember this is something Europeans do because they know that this is in

:25:56. > :25:59.their own security interests. It is in their interest to invest more in

:26:00. > :26:05.European defence because the world has become more dangerous. Many

:26:06. > :26:08.European allies, or European allies, reduce defence spending after the

:26:09. > :26:12.end of the Cold War because tensions went down. If you decrease defence

:26:13. > :26:16.spending when tensions are going down, you have to be able to

:26:17. > :26:19.increase defence spending when tensions are going up, and now they

:26:20. > :26:24.are going up. So we have still a long way to go, but I'm encouraged

:26:25. > :26:31.by the fact we have started to move in the right direction. Last year

:26:32. > :26:35.there were five allies spending 2%, this year Romania has declared they

:26:36. > :26:40.reached 2%, next year Latvia and Lithuania will reach two, so we go

:26:41. > :26:48.from five to eight, which is going in the right direction. Still, we

:26:49. > :26:52.have some work to do. I did ask about all the money that hasn't been

:26:53. > :26:55.paid over the years, will it be coming back? We'll be talking about

:26:56. > :27:14.that. We want to talk about that, too. Anita, where are you? Hi.

:27:15. > :27:18.INAUDIBLE ... Were you aware that was going to

:27:19. > :27:24.happen? How does that affect the relationship? We did talk last

:27:25. > :27:29.night, I think it's wonderful they abstained, as you know, very few

:27:30. > :27:33.people expected that. No, I was not surprised China did I abstain. Very,

:27:34. > :27:36.very few people thought that was going to happen, so we honoured by

:27:37. > :27:43.the vote, that's the vote that should have taken place. Secretary

:27:44. > :27:51.General you talked about Moscow and Russia, how do you count of

:27:52. > :27:55.oppression in general... Democratic elections... INAUDIBLE

:27:56. > :28:03.The most important thing is to have an alliance, stay united and be firm

:28:04. > :28:07.and predictable in our approach with Russia, it means we have to invest

:28:08. > :28:11.in our collective defence, exactly what we're doing. Deploy more troops

:28:12. > :28:13.in eastern part of the alliance, increased the readiness of forces

:28:14. > :28:18.and defence spending. I welcome the strong message from President Trump

:28:19. > :28:24.on the message of increased defence spending. We have started to do

:28:25. > :28:28.this, so we're implementing the biggest reinforcement of collective

:28:29. > :28:32.defence since the end of the Cold War, providing credible deterrents.

:28:33. > :28:36.At the same time we have to find ways to engage with Russia, talk

:28:37. > :28:42.with Russia. Because Russia will not go away, it'll our biggest

:28:43. > :28:46.neighbour. Then we have to find ways to avoid a new Cold War and new arms

:28:47. > :28:50.race. That is exactly why I'm very much in favour of what we call the

:28:51. > :28:55.jewel track approach to Russia. As a former Norwegian politician I have

:28:56. > :29:00.the experience to work with Russians because Norway is bordering Russia.

:29:01. > :29:04.Norway was able even during the Cold War to develop a pragmatic working

:29:05. > :29:08.relationship with Russia. Cooperating with them on energy, an

:29:09. > :29:17.border issues, environment, fishery. Also in military affairs. That was

:29:18. > :29:21.not despite our membership in Nato, it was because of membership in

:29:22. > :29:25.Nato, because Nato provided the strength, predictability, the

:29:26. > :29:29.platform for a small country to have a political dialogue with Russia. So

:29:30. > :29:33.I strongly believe the only way to deter Russia is to be strong, but

:29:34. > :29:38.the only way to avoid new Cold War, avoid a new arms race, avoid

:29:39. > :29:41.increasing tensions, is to continue to engage Russia in political

:29:42. > :29:43.dialogue and make sure what we do is defensive and proportionate in the

:29:44. > :30:00.response to a more assertive Russia. I give the floor to... Thank you, Mr

:30:01. > :30:04.President I am from Norway and Russia is our neighbouring country,

:30:05. > :30:10.what do you think your pasty fear from Russia if this tension

:30:11. > :30:18.continues? -- what do you think that Europe has to fear from Russia. I

:30:19. > :30:22.can't understand. What do you think European countries have too fear

:30:23. > :30:30.from Russia if this tension continues to escalate. And though Mr

:30:31. > :30:34.Secretary General, the attack on Syria last week, were said to be

:30:35. > :30:40.warranted, do you think so and you see Nato playing a supporting role

:30:41. > :30:45.in any future actions in Syria? I want to start by saying that

:30:46. > :30:49.hopefully they will have to fear nothing, ultimately. Like now there

:30:50. > :30:53.is a clear and there are certainly problems. Ultimately, I hope there

:30:54. > :30:58.will not be a fear and there will not be problems and the world can

:30:59. > :31:04.get along. That would be ideal. It is crazy what is going on, whether

:31:05. > :31:09.it is the middle is, or the Ukraine. Where ever you look, there are so

:31:10. > :31:14.many problems. Alter the Lee I believe that we are going to get rid

:31:15. > :31:20.of most of those problems and there will not be fear anybody. We have a

:31:21. > :31:26.very big pile of North Korea and as I said I really think that China it

:31:27. > :31:33.will try very hard. And it has already started. Yesterday and today

:31:34. > :31:40.they have penned back whole boats. The vast amount of Colbert penned

:31:41. > :31:44.back, they tend back the boats. -- turn back the whole boats. It may be

:31:45. > :31:48.effective it may not be effective. It may not be affected but we will

:31:49. > :31:55.be effective. I can promise you that. Thank you. Nato has constantly

:31:56. > :32:02.confirmed the use of chemical weapons in Syria. The use of

:32:03. > :32:09.chemical weapons is horrendous. It is a clear violation of

:32:10. > :32:15.international law. Any use of chemical weapons is unacceptable and

:32:16. > :32:22.cannot go unanswered, so those responsible is must be held

:32:23. > :32:31.accountable. The strike against the airbase in Syria was a US operation

:32:32. > :32:34.based on US intelligence. Within the alliance, this has been something

:32:35. > :32:42.which has been met with a lot of understanding, because Nato allies

:32:43. > :32:48.do not accept that chemical weapons are used and therefore we also

:32:49. > :32:52.strongly support the efforts of the fact-finding commission to find out

:32:53. > :32:54.what happens and to make sure that we do not see any use of chemical

:32:55. > :33:10.weapons in the future. Thank you. There is Donald Trump shaking

:33:11. > :33:15.Stoltenberg's handles the two men stepped off the platform after

:33:16. > :33:18.giving prepared statement and then taken questions from journalists. If

:33:19. > :33:23.you are joining me let me run through what was said because there

:33:24. > :33:27.were significant statements bear, first full Donald Trump's general

:33:28. > :33:31.tone towards Nato has panned around. Here we have one journalist on

:33:32. > :33:35.public radio International pointing out that he said, I complained about

:33:36. > :33:39.that a long time ago in a major change... He's talking about the

:33:40. > :33:45.funding of Nato, and that word obsolete game up. Do you member this

:33:46. > :33:54.from a while back? In interview with the German newspaper Mr Trump

:33:55. > :34:01.said... Mr Trump says, it's not obsolete any more as my colleague

:34:02. > :34:06.noted... The general tone will have pleased all Nato members, they

:34:07. > :34:11.talked about working together on the disaster in Syria, also talked about

:34:12. > :34:15.how Mr Trump said that we should not be trapped by tired thinking and

:34:16. > :34:19.Stoltenberg emphasised that the strong may do good Europe he talked

:34:20. > :34:24.about a more dangerous and unpredictable world it is

:34:25. > :34:30.interesting that both men emphasised that. Donald Trump said, "The world

:34:31. > :34:41.is a mess, right now it is musty and they can't do it right now" it is it

:34:42. > :34:45.-- the world is nasty. It is the view of Jens Stoltenberg and an

:34:46. > :34:50.autumn that the world is west now. Donald was asked about what has been

:34:51. > :34:53.happening in Moscow, the meetings between the US Secretary of State

:34:54. > :34:57.and his counterpart in Moscow, he said it was a successful meeting

:34:58. > :35:01.which may have raised some eyebrows giving that nothing agreed and

:35:02. > :35:05.everyone in Moscow agreed the relations are bad. But Mr Trump said

:35:06. > :35:09.judge the success of my policy on Russia in the long time and this may

:35:10. > :35:12.take a long time. He also said that right now in US Russian relations

:35:13. > :35:18.could be at an all-time low. One other thing that has generated a lot

:35:19. > :35:26.of interest online, we are talking about China's position towards North

:35:27. > :35:31.Korea he said," he's got a good president -- he has a good chemistry

:35:32. > :35:38.with the Chinese president, but he said that the Americans would do it

:35:39. > :35:43.alone, which also means with a lot of nations. We do not know what that

:35:44. > :35:47.means or who else might be involved if the Chinese were not. Some

:35:48. > :35:50.questions raised but the biggest takeaway from that press conference

:35:51. > :35:55.with the mood music. He was incredibly critical of Nato during

:35:56. > :36:00.the presidential campaign, and now he seems more convinced that this is

:36:01. > :36:05.an important alliance that serves America's interests. That happened

:36:06. > :36:11.at the White House in Washington, DC, in New York not too long ago

:36:12. > :36:16.Russia, as expected, vetoed the latest UN Security Council draft

:36:17. > :36:19.resolution which was pushing for an independent investigation into that

:36:20. > :36:27.chemical attack in Syria last week. By the way, the Americans, Trump,

:36:28. > :36:31.reiterated that the sad regime is responsible, but every day the

:36:32. > :36:33.Russians have been saying, how could we possibly know that as we do not

:36:34. > :36:38.have another information from the scene of the attack. Here is the UK

:36:39. > :36:48.Foreign Secretary reacting to this latest vetoed.

:36:49. > :36:51.It is interesting that it was only the Russians who were thee

:36:52. > :36:53.significant country to veto, even the Chinese abstained, I think

:36:54. > :36:55.the pressure on them is now very considerable.

:36:56. > :37:10.mechanise that. They may recognise it, but the price has not budged --

:37:11. > :37:14.they may recognise but the pressure has not made them budge. I was just

:37:15. > :37:19.mentioning that Donald Trump, in the press conference at the White House,

:37:20. > :37:23.said of North Korea, that it was an incredibly important issue to be

:37:24. > :37:29.working with China on this but he reiterated that America would go it

:37:30. > :37:36.alone. That was in line with what he told Fox News Elia. We are sending

:37:37. > :37:41.an Aga, very powerful, we have submarines, very powerful, far more

:37:42. > :37:50.powerful then the aircraft carrier, can tell you that. And we have the

:37:51. > :37:56.best military people on earth, he is doing the wrong thing. Now, the hate

:37:57. > :38:05.that he is referring to is the North Korea leader, King John. -- now, the

:38:06. > :38:09."Heat". Chinese media reported on the cool between these two men and

:38:10. > :38:22.we were told that the Chinese president is... We spotted an

:38:23. > :38:33.editorial in Chinese state meeting saying that...

:38:34. > :38:38.BBC's reporters based in Beijing and he is in the North Korean capital

:38:39. > :38:46.and couple of hours ago this came in. Behind me you can just make out

:38:47. > :38:54.in the gloom the skyline of an eerily quiet city that finds itself

:38:55. > :38:58.at the centre of an increasingly tense international crisis with the

:38:59. > :39:03.US aircraft carrier strike group on its way to beat waters and North

:39:04. > :39:09.Korean media warning that if such provocation continue there could be

:39:10. > :39:15.devastating consequences. The Chinese and US presidents have

:39:16. > :39:20.spoken by telephone with Terry calling for calm and telling

:39:21. > :39:23.President Trump that he will work for the de-neutralisation of the

:39:24. > :39:31.Korean peninsula. It is worth pointing out that crisis has in part

:39:32. > :39:38.of the pattern with North Korea for a deck ride. Experts say that the

:39:39. > :39:43.government uses such things for its own strategic advantage. That said,

:39:44. > :39:47.the company is preparing to celebrate the anniversary of the

:39:48. > :39:52.birth of its founding president on Saturday and there is speculation

:39:53. > :39:57.that there could be further missile tests, or even a nuclear test come.

:39:58. > :40:09.BBC News, Pyongyang. We have had from Pyongyang, for

:40:10. > :40:15.Worthington, from New York. Let's turn to Germany. A man has been

:40:16. > :40:19.arrested, we were reporting on yesterday's programme. We know the

:40:20. > :40:24.bus left the team hotel in the south of the city and was heading to the

:40:25. > :40:27.centre. The Champions League quarterfinal against Mod the

:40:28. > :40:32.whispers to be happening but it was actually played tonight instead. --

:40:33. > :40:35.against Monaco was supposed to be happening. One player we know he was

:40:36. > :40:42.not in the game, the Spanish midfielder here. He broke his wrist

:40:43. > :40:47.in this attack, he seems in good spirits, this was a picture posted

:40:48. > :40:59.online. That's ourselves of today and all of today's elements today.

:41:00. > :41:04.Prosecutors said they found three letters which point a passable

:41:05. > :41:11.Islamist terror motive for the attacks. They be examined by Islamic

:41:12. > :41:15.experts now. They are said to have contained the man's for example the

:41:16. > :41:21.German tornadoes are withdrawn from Syria. -- they are said to have

:41:22. > :41:28.content demands. And that Germany closes its US airbase. An intriguing

:41:29. > :41:31.twist to the investigation at this point but sadly these letters

:41:32. > :41:38.appeared to be the focus of the investigation at the moment. So, the

:41:39. > :41:42.game was pushed that by 24 hours, but it went ahead this evening along

:41:43. > :41:47.with two other quarterfinals as well, mark Edwards 's libel was that

:41:48. > :41:52.the BBC sports Centre, it was an update game please? It was a five

:41:53. > :41:57.goal thriller at the stadium, it was a first competitive encounter

:41:58. > :42:04.between these two clubs and it is 3-2 to Monaco, the German team's

:42:05. > :42:10.players wore shirts dedicated to the player he was injured in the blast.

:42:11. > :42:15.In terms of the match, there was plenty of action, the French league

:42:16. > :42:21.leaders scored vast, food that teenage sensation in the 19th minute

:42:22. > :42:25.with his 14th goal. -- the French league leaders scored as with that

:42:26. > :42:29.teenage sensation. He was on target again with a second goal of the game

:42:30. > :42:34.and made it 3-1. But another player pulled a goal back for the home side

:42:35. > :42:39.to bring them back into the tie at 3-2. That is how finished and Monaco

:42:40. > :42:43.will be favourites to progress there. In terms of the games, ASBOs

:42:44. > :42:48.we should focus on Leicester, first. We can start with them. -- I suppose

:42:49. > :42:55.we should focus on Leicester first. They lost. They probably will be

:42:56. > :42:59.quite happy with that result. The only goal of the game was from the

:43:00. > :43:04.penalty spot and it was a contentious one as it appears that

:43:05. > :43:10.there was a foul outside of the box. They will fancy their chances.

:43:11. > :43:16.Waleed Madrid will be public the happier of the two Madrid clubs. --

:43:17. > :43:26.real Madrid will be the happy of the two Madrid clubs. The hero of the

:43:27. > :43:39.day, scored two vital away goal is. They were down to ten men. OK, thank

:43:40. > :43:43.you very much indeed. Let's talk about and we've seen a lot in the

:43:44. > :43:47.last few days, this is the boss of United airlines who is saying he

:43:48. > :43:52.will not resign. He is under huge pressure and you know why. You will

:43:53. > :43:57.have seen the video of the man being dragged up the United flight. It

:43:58. > :44:01.took the see it we goes before he said sorry and his team decided

:44:02. > :44:05.having banked one of the west PR Dias asters perhaps they would

:44:06. > :44:12.change tack. The boss was sent out and US TV. The word ashamed comes to

:44:13. > :44:18.mind. As I think about our business and our people, the first thing I

:44:19. > :44:25.think is it is important to apologise to the doctor, his family,

:44:26. > :44:33.the passengers on flight, our employees. That is not who are

:44:34. > :44:37.family at United is. You saw it as the bad moment. This will never, can

:44:38. > :44:45.never happen again on a united Airlines flight. That is my promise.

:44:46. > :44:50.We have talked about this a few times this week. It feels like too

:44:51. > :44:55.little too late. Is certainly did come quite late people were looking

:44:56. > :45:02.for this kind of apology right from the get go. But his statement after

:45:03. > :45:08.statement it didn't... As the anger continue to grow and we saw on

:45:09. > :45:12.social media especially just the company being eviscerated, finally

:45:13. > :45:16.we are hearing from the CEO himself saying that he is sorry. That said

:45:17. > :45:21.the question now is what impact this will have on the company's bottom

:45:22. > :45:26.line. And she did's trading we saw that the shares but the company had

:45:27. > :45:31.dropped - four and a half percent at its absolute worst. It made up one

:45:32. > :45:35.end of the day by dropping by a percentage, today we see the same

:45:36. > :45:39.thing that it fell again by percentage. It is a sign that even

:45:40. > :45:46.Wall Street is reacting to the PR disaster that we have seen. The

:45:47. > :45:52.regard to working out how a paying customer ended up being dragged off

:45:53. > :45:57.a flight in the first place? According to the interview and

:45:58. > :46:02.according to the CEO, he said the next time a situation like this

:46:03. > :46:07.arises we will not be using law enforcement to go and take someone

:46:08. > :46:18.off of the plane. They are going to be reviewing the incident and as we

:46:19. > :46:22.had they will release an investigation and the result of that

:46:23. > :46:26.will be available the 30th of April. We appreciate the update, thank you

:46:27. > :46:29.very much. In a few minutes we will talk you through some surprisingly

:46:30. > :46:37.is around, that is the former president, he would like to get the

:46:38. > :46:44.job back you standing again. -- who would like to get the job back, he

:46:45. > :46:49.is standing again. Melania Trump has accepted damages reporting to be in

:46:50. > :46:53.excess of ?2 million, from the publishers of the Daily Mail at a

:46:54. > :46:58.printed allegations about her past career. The paper which has agreed

:46:59. > :47:04.to put an apology suggested that work undertaken by her in the 1990s

:47:05. > :47:08.went "Beyond simply modelling." The story was published and subsequently

:47:09. > :47:12.online joined the US election campaign last year. Today the paper

:47:13. > :47:14.accepted those suggested where an two. Our media correspondence has

:47:15. > :47:21.more detail will stop My wife Melania, who

:47:22. > :47:22.is here right now... Melania Trump, First Lady

:47:23. > :47:25.of the United States - it's a position that is always

:47:26. > :47:27.going to attract press attention, but when the Daily Mail published

:47:28. > :47:30.an article last August making a series of accusations about her

:47:31. > :47:33.past, she called in the lawyers. Today, that process

:47:34. > :47:36.came to a conclusion. And in a statement read out in court

:47:37. > :47:39.today, they address the allegations in that article headlined "Racy

:47:40. > :47:42.photos and troubling questions", in which the Daily Mail republished

:47:43. > :47:45.allegations that Melania Trump had provided services beyond simply

:47:46. > :47:49.modelling, all of which it now accepts is entirely untrue,

:47:50. > :47:53.defamatory, and for which the Daily Mail has now

:47:54. > :47:58.apologised unreservedly. The size of the settlement

:47:59. > :48:00.hasn't been made public, but a figure of just under

:48:01. > :48:04.$3 million is being widely reported. It's a big figure for a libel claim,

:48:05. > :48:08.but Melania Trump had, at the beginning, been seeking

:48:09. > :48:11.150 million for what her claim said was the loss of a once-in-a-lifetime

:48:12. > :48:17.opportunity to extend her brand. There was no mention of business

:48:18. > :48:20.or branding today's statement, rather, "The allegations strike

:48:21. > :48:22.at the heart of the claimant's "The claimant has not

:48:23. > :48:37.acted as alleged." Melania has been a very soft

:48:38. > :48:42.and easy target for the press. In terms of the criticism

:48:43. > :48:45.levelled against her, and the specific types

:48:46. > :48:48.of allegations that she has suffered from, it really

:48:49. > :48:51.is a kind of lazy sexism. She's been criticised because people

:48:52. > :48:56.want to attack her husband. In court, the statement on behalf

:48:57. > :48:59.of the Daily Mail was brief - an apology, a retraction,

:49:00. > :49:24.and publicly setting hello, thanks for joining me on

:49:25. > :49:30.outside source, I live on the BBC newsroom. Our lead story is that Rex

:49:31. > :49:36.Tillerson has been meeting President Putin and also his Russian

:49:37. > :49:41.counterpart in Moscow. They all admit that Russian and American

:49:42. > :49:47.relationships are at a low point. Now, look who is throwing his hat

:49:48. > :49:54.back into the ring, he was around's president from 2000 and 52 2030 and

:49:55. > :49:58.he wants the job back, he is registered to stand in May's

:49:59. > :50:11.election. Look at one rainy and student described it... -- look at

:50:12. > :50:17.one students from around. Around's supreme leader told him not to run.

:50:18. > :50:25.He clearly wasn't listening. People were visibly stunned as they

:50:26. > :50:31.processed Ahmadinejad's paperwork. Here's the reaction in the BBC

:50:32. > :50:36.Persian newsroom. Shock, I would never expect Ahmadinejad to decide

:50:37. > :50:40.to run. He had in doors to his deputy, who had registered to one.

:50:41. > :50:44.They hinted that by the supreme leader, he has done that before what

:50:45. > :50:50.it is still a shock. Is it realistic that he could become president

:50:51. > :50:54.again? It is hard to say, add the way he had nothing to lose, he had

:50:55. > :50:58.been fading away and we had not had much about him in the last four

:50:59. > :51:02.years. He is now registered to run the presidency but is the guardian

:51:03. > :51:09.council who has to decide whether he is qualified enough to run. If he is

:51:10. > :51:14.to squalor fight... Isn't a qualified? He has done it before. --

:51:15. > :51:19.if he is disqualified. That has nothing to do with that. He fell out

:51:20. > :51:25.with the supreme leader who has publicly asked him not to run, but

:51:26. > :51:30.he has decided not to listen. The guardian council is chosen by the

:51:31. > :51:35.supreme leader, so they are all his people. It is difficult for them not

:51:36. > :51:39.to disqualify him, or if they qualify him, either way, one party

:51:40. > :51:44.is standing against the wishes of the supreme leader and I think that

:51:45. > :51:48.the ex-president Ahmadinejad will be done winner of this situation,

:51:49. > :51:51.because he is back in the spotlight and we're talking about him at the

:51:52. > :52:01.BBC and that is what he wants. Let me play you a quick Alli clip will

:52:02. > :52:05.start this is a clip rainy and state TV, the running mate, the report

:52:06. > :52:14.tape has mentioned that Ahmadinejad has registered for the election.

:52:15. > :52:22.It looks like there was a problem on the line, what happened here? There

:52:23. > :52:24.was a problem and then the connection re-established and what

:52:25. > :52:31.we had when the reporter did not know that she was back on air, she

:52:32. > :52:35.said she should not mention the running mate. Then they came out and

:52:36. > :52:40.said they were not trying to convey them but the fact is they were

:52:41. > :52:45.censored by the state media. Thank you, the election is in May. There

:52:46. > :52:52.was a certain inevitability about Sean Spicer having to apologise have

:52:53. > :52:58.to saying this. We did not use chemical weapons in World War II.

:52:59. > :53:04.You have someone as despicable as Hitler who did not even sink to

:53:05. > :53:08.using chemical weapons. Of course, Hitler did use chemical weapons on

:53:09. > :53:15.his own people, not too long later shown Spicer went on to US TV... I

:53:16. > :53:21.made a mistake. There is no other way to say it. I got into a topic I

:53:22. > :53:26.should not have and they screwed up. It clearly is painful to myself to

:53:27. > :53:30.know that I did something like that. That was busy not my intention and

:53:31. > :53:32.to know when you screw up that you possibly offenders are not my

:53:33. > :53:38.intention and to know when you screw up that you possibly offended enough

:53:39. > :53:41.to people, I would ask for folk's forgiveness and to understand that I

:53:42. > :53:45.should not have tried to make a comparison. There is no comparing

:53:46. > :53:58.atrocities. The head of the Anne Frank Centre for mutual respect has

:53:59. > :54:04.been saying... He goes on... Anti-continues... There is no

:54:05. > :54:09.prospect of that happening, that we are aware of and not everyone sees

:54:10. > :54:21.it this way. Instance this one tweet was spotted. One of the tweet which

:54:22. > :54:26.is relevant, here is our colleague pointing out that the story would

:54:27. > :54:30.have been leading on the morning news in the US, if he had not

:54:31. > :54:36.apologise, but that is where saying sorry bills, kill the story. That is

:54:37. > :54:42.a message that is very relevant to how United has dealt with it very

:54:43. > :54:47.difficult week. A reminder, we've seen a press conference between the

:54:48. > :54:54.Secretary General of Nato and Donald Trump. Trump has said that Nato is

:54:55. > :54:58.not obsolete, as he has said in the past will stop more on that coming

:54:59. > :55:08.up in the BBC, thank you for watching season.