:00:09. > :00:15.Hello, I'm Ros Atkins, this is Outside Source.
:00:16. > :00:18.Donald Trump accused Bashar al-Assad of using chemical weapons -
:00:19. > :00:31.Their West, mainly the United States, is hand in glove with the
:00:32. > :00:32.terrorists, they fabricated the entire story.
:00:33. > :00:34.This means the governments of America, Russia and Syria
:00:35. > :00:36.all have completely different explanations of what
:00:37. > :00:39.We'll go through what we can say with any certainty.
:00:40. > :00:41.This is America's most powerful non-nuclear bomb
:00:42. > :00:45.Today they used it for the first time ever - in Afghanistan.
:00:46. > :00:47.A European court has ruled there were serious failings
:00:48. > :00:50.in Russia's handling of the Beslan school siege in 2004.
:00:51. > :00:57.We'll hear from our correspondent in Istanbul ahead of the Turkish
:00:58. > :01:02.If the vote is yes, President Erdogan will become
:01:03. > :01:16.If you have points you want to pick up on you can contact us on social
:01:17. > :01:38.media. On every edition of outside source
:01:39. > :01:47.we pull together all the elements of all the most relevant stories. One
:01:48. > :01:58.of our reporters has been speaking about -- Bashar al-Assad has been
:01:59. > :02:11.talking about the alleged chemical weapons attack.
:02:12. > :02:19.Stage one, the propaganda, stage two, the military attack, that is
:02:20. > :02:26.what we believe is happening. Only 48 hours between the play and the
:02:27. > :02:34.attacks, no investigation, no concrete evidence about anything.
:02:35. > :02:41.The only thing was allegations and propaganda and then a strike.
:02:42. > :02:44.was fabricated to justify US military action.
:02:45. > :02:46.Multiple sources suggest over 80 people died.
:02:47. > :02:48.Independent tests on some victims show the presence
:02:49. > :02:52.It's also important to note that this new Syrian claim
:02:53. > :02:57.contradicts this Russian account of what happened.
:02:58. > :03:04.According to the objective data of the Russian airspace
:03:05. > :03:09.control, Syrian aviation struck a large terrorist warehouse
:03:10. > :03:22.that housed a warehouse making bombs, with toxic substances.
:03:23. > :03:23.BBC Arabic's Presenter is Rasha Qandeel.
:03:24. > :03:26.She watched the full interview and told me what she thought.
:03:27. > :03:37.It puts Bashar al-Assad between Russia and the United States. That
:03:38. > :03:41.puts a limit to what Trump will go for it in the next attack, if
:03:42. > :03:47.anything will happen in air strikes. If it is not a chemical attack it is
:03:48. > :03:50.above the line, anything below that is in the eyes of Bashar al-Assad
:03:51. > :03:55.permitted and can be talked about. It puts them in between Russia and
:03:56. > :03:59.the United States, three different versions of what happened. He did
:04:00. > :04:03.not offer evidence to back up his claims. No, he did not, but he
:04:04. > :04:11.considers that the two countries that carried on the tests are not
:04:12. > :04:19.independent part of the story. He considers Turkey carrying on the
:04:20. > :04:26.tests, saying there were traces of sarin on the victims, he is saying
:04:27. > :04:32.it is not an independent test and analysis. I want to show the viewers
:04:33. > :04:36.another clip from that interview. Bashar al-Assad talked about the
:04:37. > :04:45.broader issue of whether Syria has chemical weapons. We give up our
:04:46. > :04:51.arsenal three years ago. Even if we have then we would not use them. We
:04:52. > :04:58.have never used our chemical arsenal in our history. He made a deal with
:04:59. > :05:01.the Russians to hand over his chemical arsenal, presumably that is
:05:02. > :05:05.monitored at the time? There was no way that this could be monitored the
:05:06. > :05:12.way it should have been monitored, but Rex Tillerson was quite sharp
:05:13. > :05:18.and criticising Russia in failing to monitor the attack, or the
:05:19. > :05:22.dismantling of Syrian arsenal when it comes to chemical weapons. From
:05:23. > :05:26.2015 until today there are several allegations of chemical attacks. On
:05:27. > :05:33.the ground there is no concrete evidence that this arsenal was
:05:34. > :05:38.dismantled at all. The interview today is putting Russia in a very
:05:39. > :05:43.critical position in front of the international community, especially
:05:44. > :05:52.after Russia vetoed the UN Security Council resolution if you days ago.
:05:53. > :06:16.This is the most powerful non-nuclear bomb that the USA has.
:06:17. > :06:20.This was huge interest to my colleagues in the BBC newsroom and
:06:21. > :06:38.Afghanistan. Let us just reiterate what is being
:06:39. > :06:42.said. This is America's most powerful non-nuclear bomb and it has
:06:43. > :06:46.just been used for the first time in a conflict. You can see the province
:06:47. > :06:51.where it was dropped on the Afghanistan. Also, this picture is
:06:52. > :06:53.the one that the US defence Department has supplied to
:06:54. > :07:01.illustrate what the weapon is like. Let us bring in a BBC correspondent.
:07:02. > :07:04.Thank you for being with us. Lots of people will be watching and
:07:05. > :07:08.wondering why have the Americans decided to use the snow?
:07:09. > :07:12.There is two reasons. One is the level of frustration with the fact
:07:13. > :07:16.that this is a conflict that has bogged down in America for 15 years.
:07:17. > :07:22.There are still 9000 American forces bear, a lot of Nato forces there as
:07:23. > :07:26.well. They are ostensibly there to help train Afghan local forces, but
:07:27. > :07:29.they are suffering heavy losses and are unable to hold territory that
:07:30. > :07:34.they take from the Taliban and other insurgents. The reason that this
:07:35. > :07:39.bomb was used in this particular place is because this is where
:07:40. > :07:43.so-called Islamic State, or an offshoot of Islamic State, is said
:07:44. > :07:50.to be entrenched, in this vast complex of caves and tunnels, which
:07:51. > :07:53.link the Afghan border to Pakistan. They are apparently able to move
:07:54. > :07:58.with impunity from place to place and escape being detected or
:07:59. > :08:04.contained by Allied forces on the ground. This bomb was dropped
:08:05. > :08:08.because the shock wave apparently is so huge that it can actually
:08:09. > :08:15.penetrate the ground and kill anybody inside those tunnels. Their
:08:16. > :08:21.commander of US forces in Afghanistan said that it was the
:08:22. > :08:25.right munition to use in this case. Was wasn't him who made the decision
:08:26. > :08:28.or would that have gone all the way to the White House?
:08:29. > :08:34.This is a very good question. We simply do not know the answer. The
:08:35. > :08:38.White House itself, spokesman Sean Spicer, batted away that question,
:08:39. > :08:44.said ask the Pentagon, Donald Trump was asked directly if you moments
:08:45. > :08:48.ago, he said, we know what has happened, I have given my commanders
:08:49. > :08:52.sweeping authority, that is why we are doing well, but not answering
:08:53. > :08:57.the question, did you authorise the use of this weapon or not? There is
:08:58. > :09:01.a certain amount of evasiveness coming from the White House at the
:09:02. > :09:03.moment and we are not really sure why.
:09:04. > :09:10.We will be talking later in the programme as well.
:09:11. > :09:13.13 years ago, 330 people died in the Beslan school siege.
:09:14. > :09:19.Today a European court found that Russia mishandled the crisis.
:09:20. > :09:26.First let's look again at what happened.
:09:27. > :09:29.Beslan is a town in the south west of Russia.
:09:30. > :09:30.It's not far from the Chechen border.
:09:31. > :09:37.These are pictures from September 2004.
:09:38. > :09:44.Chechen rebels took more than 1,000 people hostage at the school.
:09:45. > :09:48.They wanted Russian troops to pull out of Chechnya.
:09:49. > :09:50.Three days later Russian security forces stormed the school.
:09:51. > :10:00.By the time the operation was finished, about
:10:01. > :10:02.By the time the operation was finished, over
:10:03. > :10:06.This is one woman who was taken hostage with her two
:10:07. > :10:21.TRANSLATION: At the beginning, I was telling my children
:10:22. > :10:24.and the other kids, don't worry, the authorities will save us.
:10:25. > :10:26.The children started asking, haven't they decided yet?
:10:27. > :10:28.I said, no, it is difficult because they need to
:10:29. > :10:40.When I came around after the blast, one daughter was sitting by my side.
:10:41. > :10:51.When I touched her, I found there was a hole in her head.
:10:52. > :10:56.I saw her wound but I did not realise that no one
:10:57. > :11:07.All the attackers were killed except one man.
:11:08. > :11:11.Now a Russian inquiry into the siege is still ongoing.
:11:12. > :11:13.But it's already found officials acted in a lawful manner.
:11:14. > :11:17.And police officers were either given amnesty or acquitted.
:11:18. > :11:20.That prompted hundreds of survivors and relatives of victims to take
:11:21. > :11:25.a case to the European Court of Human Rights.
:11:26. > :11:27.Here's the court posting online that it had
:11:28. > :11:28.found serious failings in the Russian
:11:29. > :11:36.It also awarded more than $3 million in compensation.
:11:37. > :11:49.Here's the lawyer who brought the case giving her reaction.
:11:50. > :11:59.The victims will be relieved and pleased that they have been
:12:00. > :12:02.vindicated. It is a strong judgment. Russia failed to undertake an
:12:03. > :12:07.effective investigation. The Government has been ordered by the
:12:08. > :12:12.court in a rather unusual step to reinvestigate, particularly into the
:12:13. > :12:14.use of force, which is the thing that the applicants were most
:12:15. > :12:20.concerned about, because that was what caused the deaths.
:12:21. > :12:25.The BBC's Sarah Rainsford has the latest from Moscow.
:12:26. > :12:34.I asked the president was man -- I asked the President's sportsmen what
:12:35. > :12:41.he thought of the ruling, he said it was not acceptable. -- spokesperson.
:12:42. > :12:45.They said they would appeal the ruling, they said the ruling of the
:12:46. > :12:50.court did not match the evidence that was presented by the Russian
:12:51. > :12:55.Government. In a while we will hear from a
:12:56. > :12:57.correspondent in North Korea amid speculation the country could be
:12:58. > :13:08.preparing for another nuclear test. The Education Secretary Justine
:13:09. > :13:10.Greening has defended plans to push ahead with new grammar schools
:13:11. > :13:13.in England - saying she wants to create schools that
:13:14. > :13:15.are "truly open to all". In a speech this morning,
:13:16. > :13:18.she said she wanted grammar schools to serve more children
:13:19. > :13:34.from disadvantaged backgrounds. Selection in new 21st-century state
:13:35. > :13:38.grammar schools will add to the options available to young people to
:13:39. > :13:44.make them -- to help them make the most of their talents. I don't
:13:45. > :13:48.accept the arguments from those who critique clamorous and selection
:13:49. > :13:52.while simultaneously ignoring those parents. On the one hand they call
:13:53. > :13:56.for new grammar schools, on the other hand they have nothing to say
:13:57. > :14:00.about the ones that we do have. They are not listening to the choices of
:14:01. > :14:14.parents when we know how oversubscribed grammars are.
:14:15. > :14:18.This is Outside Source live from the BBC newsroom.
:14:19. > :14:21.Syria's President Assad says reports of a chemical attack by his forces
:14:22. > :14:24.last week are 100% fabrication and there was no order
:14:25. > :14:36.Two women charged with assassinating the half-brother of North Korea's
:14:37. > :14:40.leader, have appeared in court in Malaysia.
:14:41. > :14:43.The two suspects are accused of smearing a deadly toxin
:14:44. > :14:51.They have said they thought they were taking part in a TV prank.
:14:52. > :14:54.BBC World Service reports that heavy rain and strong winds have reached
:14:55. > :14:55.the East of New Zealand's North Island.
:14:56. > :14:58.The country has been hit by the worst storm
:14:59. > :15:01.More than eight thousand homes are without power and fallen trees
:15:02. > :15:27.Citigroup, Wells Fargo and JP Morgan are three of the biggest banks -
:15:28. > :15:29.and they've just delivered results for the first three
:15:30. > :15:39.Profits are up by a whopping 17% at Citi
:15:40. > :15:41.and by the same amount at JPMorgan which made nearly $6
:15:42. > :15:45.It's because their trading floors are getting busier
:15:46. > :15:55.Two things that are doing well for the banks, one is the rise in
:15:56. > :16:00.interest rates, resulting in the fact that we are seeing more money
:16:01. > :16:05.coming in from lending, the other is trading, the trading desks are doing
:16:06. > :16:10.really well. The stock market has been trading at all-time highs.
:16:11. > :16:23.Banking stocks particularly happy doing extremely well.
:16:24. > :16:26.We now know that the passenger who was dragged off a United flight
:16:27. > :16:29.on Sunday suffered concussion, a serious broken nose, sinus damage
:16:30. > :16:36.And today the family gave a press conference.
:16:37. > :16:49.Just treat us with respect, make us feel that you care. I must say I
:16:50. > :16:56.don't believe it's limited to the airline industry. I think corporate
:16:57. > :17:03.America needs to understand that we all want to be treated in the same
:17:04. > :17:09.manner, with the same respect, the same dignity, that they would treat
:17:10. > :17:19.their own family members. If they do that, wouldn't it be great? Will
:17:20. > :17:21.there be a lawsuit? Yes, probably. Very, very probably.
:17:22. > :17:39.It has been a difficult time for all of us, particularly for my father,
:17:40. > :17:41.and we are grateful for your support.
:17:42. > :17:44.What happened to my dad should never have happened to any
:17:45. > :17:46.human being, regardless of the circumstance.
:17:47. > :17:48.We were horrified and shocked and sickened to learn what
:17:49. > :18:07.had happened to him and to see what had happened to him.
:18:08. > :18:14.Surely a certainty there will be legal action?
:18:15. > :18:19.We can expect legal action. The lawyer is already hosting a press
:18:20. > :18:23.conference with the daughter of the person involved, the person removed
:18:24. > :18:28.from the plane, David Dao. The question is what happens on the
:18:29. > :18:31.other side? Will United airlines get support either publicly or privately
:18:32. > :18:35.from other airlines because what is at stake is this policy that we have
:18:36. > :18:39.seen banks airlines about overbooking, and whether if somebody
:18:40. > :18:43.has a ticket, they can essentially be ticked off a plane. This is the
:18:44. > :18:49.business question that concerns the airline industry. Of course they are
:18:50. > :18:54.also facing not just potential lawyers, but potential federal
:18:55. > :18:57.scrutiny. There is a congressional lawmakers know talking about this
:18:58. > :19:00.question of over again. It was interesting to hear the
:19:01. > :19:05.lawyer brother that much further out to issues of how corporate America
:19:06. > :19:09.behaves, all from that one incident on a plane. I am guessing some
:19:10. > :19:12.people would push back at that and analysis.
:19:13. > :19:16.At the moment if you think about who is in the White House as well, you
:19:17. > :19:20.have got a businessman, so it will be interesting to see, given how
:19:21. > :19:24.pro-business the current administration seems to be, whether
:19:25. > :19:27.or not that flies. But public sentiment was certainly stirred by
:19:28. > :19:32.this incident, so much so that it had a knock-on effect on United's
:19:33. > :19:36.share price. The question is, going forward, doesn't have any wider
:19:37. > :19:40.significance? That is harder to prove that on the case of
:19:41. > :19:44.overbooking it will be a scrutiny that the airline industry as a whole
:19:45. > :19:46.does not want to address because for them, and sold seats, seats that are
:19:47. > :19:55.left empty, cost them money. Three days to go until Turkey's
:19:56. > :19:57.referendum on expanding He'd gain the power to appoint
:19:58. > :20:08.ministers, to prepare the budget, choose the majority of senior judges
:20:09. > :20:13.and to enact certain laws by decree. And for good measure he'd able
:20:14. > :20:36.to announce a state of emergency Our correspondent said it was
:20:37. > :20:44.difficult to find any promotion of a no vote. I have been talking to him,
:20:45. > :20:47.I wanted to know if this was evidence there is a far greater
:20:48. > :20:53.infrastructure behind the Yes campaign.
:20:54. > :20:57.It certainly does. The Yes campaign, the Erdogan campaign, overwhelmingly
:20:58. > :21:01.dominates. The billboards, posters, airwaves. And it is in vast swathes
:21:02. > :21:08.of the country that you will struggle to find no posters. That is
:21:09. > :21:13.more serious for no campaigners, some of whom have been attacked, set
:21:14. > :21:18.upon by angry mobs, they have had their posters removed by police.
:21:19. > :21:22.There is clearly an attempt by the Yes campaign, the Government
:21:23. > :21:26.campaign, to drown out the alternative, but what is quite
:21:27. > :21:31.extraordinary when you speak to those surveying, it is impossible to
:21:32. > :21:36.call thus, it polarises this country. One side of the country
:21:37. > :21:43.reviews President Erdogan with a depth of devotion that I have never
:21:44. > :21:46.seen for another Democratic leader. The other side of the country
:21:47. > :21:53.believes he has ruined what is left of Turkish democracy, they see him
:21:54. > :21:56.as authoritarian, locking up dissenters and journalists, and
:21:57. > :22:01.moving away from a secular constitution. The fact that this is
:22:02. > :22:09.becoming referendum on President Erdogan is why it is so polarised
:22:10. > :22:13.down the middle. This may already be over, decided by
:22:14. > :22:18.the Turkish diaspora who voted last Sunday?
:22:19. > :22:22.That vote has increased this time since the last time Turkey voted,
:22:23. > :22:29.which was the general election in 2015. There has been a bigger
:22:30. > :22:32.increase in parts of Europe like Germany and Holland. That is where
:22:33. > :22:37.it is thought there are more Erdogan supporters. They are older
:22:38. > :22:42.immigrants that were guest workers who went over in the 1960s in 1970s
:22:43. > :22:47.from Turkey and they are more focal in support of Erdogan. If that
:22:48. > :22:50.thought is higher that would suggest a higher vote for President Erdogan
:22:51. > :22:57.and the pressure for the No campaign is trying to get people to come out
:22:58. > :23:01.in in Turkey because if there was a high turnout in Turkey, that could
:23:02. > :23:07.benefit the No campaign, according to surveys. There is normally a high
:23:08. > :23:10.turnout, 80-85%, if it is higher, it's making people who absolutely
:23:11. > :23:15.want to stop Erdogan in his tracks. It'll be a fascinating race on
:23:16. > :23:20.Sunday and we will continue to watch this year and across BBC World News
:23:21. > :23:27.and the BBC Channel. If you are online I advise you to go
:23:28. > :23:31.and read Mark's comprehensive article on that referendum. You can
:23:32. > :23:34.find that on the news app and the website.
:23:35. > :23:36.Nasa has revealed it's discovered an underground ocean
:23:37. > :23:54.The BBC's Science Editor David Shukman has the story.
:23:55. > :24:03.A spacecraft sailing around the rings of Saturn.
:24:04. > :24:07.This is animation. But this is a genuine photograph. One of countless
:24:08. > :24:12.stunning images gathered over the past 13 years of the mission, sites
:24:13. > :24:17.that are totally new to the human eye. More surprising either moons
:24:18. > :24:21.around Saturn, more than 60 of them, but this one, covered in ice, is the
:24:22. > :24:25.most astonishing, because beneath its cracked surface we know know
:24:26. > :24:28.there is an ocean, and blasting out of it are great jets of water,
:24:29. > :24:33.containing exactly the kind of chemicals that are needed for life.
:24:34. > :24:37.The reason it is so exciting as it is no thought of as one of the
:24:38. > :24:45.places in the solar system where life might be able to form. We have
:24:46. > :24:50.got water, heat, organic material, and deaf people want to go back.
:24:51. > :24:57.Saturn, with its rings, is perhaps the most striking of planets. -- and
:24:58. > :25:06.because of that people want to go back.
:25:07. > :25:15.The spacecraft stands nearly seven metres tall. It set out in 1997,
:25:16. > :25:21.arriving at Saturn in 2004, it has been studying the planet ever since.
:25:22. > :25:23.Now comes the most spectacular stage of all as the spacecraft orbits
:25:24. > :25:28.inside the famous rings. We know know they are made of pieces of ice
:25:29. > :25:33.and rock, ranging from tiny specks, to lump the size of houses, and
:25:34. > :25:45.flying this course will give as unprecedented use of the rings, and
:25:46. > :25:48.of Saturn itself. -- view the Mac. Jeremy Bowen has arrived on set in
:25:49. > :25:51.the newsroom. If you have any questions on about the interview
:25:52. > :25:57.with President Assad or his recent trip to Iraq, you can contact him.
:25:58. > :26:09.We will talk to him in a few minutes.
:26:10. > :26:14.Just before the top of the hour there will be a detailed look at the
:26:15. > :26:16.UK forecast, but know a look at stories around the world. In the