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:00:00. > :00:13.Hello, I'm Ros Atkins, this is Outside Source.

:00:14. > :00:16.We start with the UK election today...

:00:17. > :00:19.Voters traditionally back the Labour Party -

:00:20. > :00:23.but the Prime Minister is urging them to turn to the Conservatives.

:00:24. > :00:32.A vote for any other party would be a vote for a week and failing Jeremy

:00:33. > :00:39.Corbyn, propped up by a coalition of chaos which would risk our national

:00:40. > :00:42.future. We talk to our correspondence in Westminster about

:00:43. > :00:48.the political situation in Wales and the Labour Party, giving more on the

:00:49. > :00:50.plans for Brexit. The tension around the Korean

:00:51. > :00:53.peninsula continues to ratchet up. A US submarine has arrived

:00:54. > :00:55.in South Korean waters. And North Korea is carrying out

:00:56. > :00:57.a large military drill. Yemen's situation

:00:58. > :00:59.is worsening still. The UN's says it's

:01:00. > :01:02.on the brink of famine. We are witnessing the starving

:01:03. > :01:05.and the crippling of And I'll be asking Rory Cellan-Jones

:01:06. > :01:18.about a new app that promises to use artificial intelligence

:01:19. > :01:25.to offer health care. Jimmy Wales, the founder of

:01:26. > :01:29.Wikipedia, has been answering questions you sent me about his new

:01:30. > :01:32.project to take on fake news. You can see his answers and

:01:33. > :01:39.questions on other stories. You know how to get into

:01:40. > :01:55.June 8th is election day here in the UK.

:01:56. > :01:59.The Prime Minister Theresa May has been in South Wales.

:02:00. > :02:05.We want to get votes and support here in Wales. Because, that will

:02:06. > :02:10.strengthen my hand in the Brexit negotiations. CLAPPING

:02:11. > :02:13.The opposition Labour Party has been offering more detail on how it

:02:14. > :02:28.We do not accept that there has to be a reckless Tory Brexit. A

:02:29. > :02:32.fundamental issue in this election. It is a fundamental issue for

:02:33. > :02:35.everybody who will be voting. We do not believe that if you are a

:02:36. > :02:42.citizen of the world, you are a citizen of nowhere. Of course we

:02:43. > :02:48.recognise and accept that immigration rules are going to have

:02:49. > :02:52.to change when we leave the EU. Let me say that again. We accept

:02:53. > :02:58.immigration rules are going to have to change when we leave the EU. But

:02:59. > :03:00.we don't accept that immigration should be the only overarching

:03:01. > :03:11.priority, the only red line. The part of that speech that got the

:03:12. > :03:16.most attention today was that Labour would guarantee the status of EU

:03:17. > :03:20.citizens in the UK before Brexit negotiations, not waiting for the

:03:21. > :03:23.negotiations to continue, as the Labour Party try to make a point of

:03:24. > :03:28.difference from the government position on that issue. I spoke to

:03:29. > :03:33.Eleanor Garnier about this. Labour trying to provide clarity on the

:03:34. > :03:36.issue of Brexit for months. It has been criticised for not having a

:03:37. > :03:41.clear message, seeming to say one thing one month and another thing

:03:42. > :03:47.another month. Today we had the shadow Brexit secretary trying to

:03:48. > :03:50.put parity and yes, as you say, distinguishing Labour from the

:03:51. > :03:54.Conservatives. Saying Labour would guarantee the rights of EU citizens

:03:55. > :03:58.here in the UK on day one of the Labour government getting into

:03:59. > :04:02.power. We know the Conservatives have that as a priority. But they

:04:03. > :04:08.will not guarantee that unilaterally. We know Labour would

:04:09. > :04:12.give the UK parliament here a veto over any Brexit deal negotiated.

:04:13. > :04:16.That is not something the Conservatives and Theresa May are

:04:17. > :04:19.offering. Labour want to retain benefits of the single market

:04:20. > :04:25.prioritising the economy. Theresa May has made clear the UK will be

:04:26. > :04:29.leaving the single market and be leaving the customs union. What it

:04:30. > :04:34.does show is that the issue of Brexit is an absolutely huge issue

:04:35. > :04:40.in the general election. Theresa May once the general election to be all

:04:41. > :04:44.about Brexit but Labour are trained to draw a line under the confusion

:04:45. > :04:49.on where it stands on Brexit and other issues as well. The NHS and

:04:50. > :04:54.social care, the fact that Labour says it is an anti-austerity party

:04:55. > :04:58.and until Labour draw a line under the Brexit issue, those are the

:04:59. > :05:03.different issues that it wants to talk about may not get much

:05:04. > :05:07.traction... Let's talk about Wales, it was intriguing to see the Prime

:05:08. > :05:11.Minister there, and polling and the Conservatives seem to be doing

:05:12. > :05:14.better than they have done in previous election campaigns in

:05:15. > :05:20.Wales. What is going on there? With that poll, it is a single one and we

:05:21. > :05:24.must take it with a huge pinch of salt. What was significant today was

:05:25. > :05:28.that Theresa May went to Wales so early in this general election

:05:29. > :05:33.campaign. She clearly thinks that there are vulnerable seats there.

:05:34. > :05:38.That were previously seen as Labour safe. Thank you. Let's go over to

:05:39. > :05:42.the Korean peninsular... A US submarine has arrived

:05:43. > :05:44.in South Korean waters. The Americans insist

:05:45. > :05:46.the deployment is routine - but it s not seen that way by North

:05:47. > :05:48.Korea. It's also carrying out a large

:05:49. > :05:59.scale military drill. TRANSLATION: Now that the US has

:06:00. > :06:04.pulled out a sword to kill us, we will pull out a grand sword of

:06:05. > :06:08.justice and fight until the end. We will kill the US imperialists with

:06:09. > :06:17.our strong and revolutionary power. Our nuclear forces are at the core.

:06:18. > :06:23.The BBC World twitter feed tells us this...

:06:24. > :06:25.Let's turn to our North America correspondent

:06:26. > :06:35.An unusual movement, is it done for practical or symbolic reasons? It

:06:36. > :06:39.isn't done for practical reasons, it was easy for the administration to

:06:40. > :06:43.send additional is, the secretary of defence and chiefs, other senior

:06:44. > :06:48.level military officials to Congress, where they could have

:06:49. > :06:55.briefed all of the senators in the Senate as they have there. This is

:06:56. > :07:00.to show the seriousness of what the Trump administration is taking on.

:07:01. > :07:05.This idea of bringing all 100 senators to the White House tomorrow

:07:06. > :07:08.at 3pm local time was Donald Trump's own idea. A departure from

:07:09. > :07:12.tradition, but as far as Donald Trump goes, I think the venue was

:07:13. > :07:16.important to him. He wanted the senators on his turf to show that he

:07:17. > :07:19.is in charge and will put on a show there with all of the senators

:07:20. > :07:25.getting into their cars and being driven to the White House. It is a

:07:26. > :07:31.symbolic gesture more than any kind of practical reason. As we often

:07:32. > :07:35.discuss at this time of day, plans by Donald Trump are divisive in

:07:36. > :07:39.Washington but interesting, regarding that position, is most of

:07:40. > :07:43.Washington behind how the Trump administration approach is this? I

:07:44. > :07:47.think you are hearing general support, there is an understanding

:07:48. > :07:52.the USA needs to take their nuclear programme seriously, they are

:07:53. > :07:55.developing missiles that could eventually reach US territory, you

:07:56. > :08:01.need to take that seriously. We hear from people like John McCain, saying

:08:02. > :08:07.that Donald Trump is doing the right moves here, ramping up the pressure

:08:08. > :08:11.on North Korea, including possible UN sanctions, moving an aircraft

:08:12. > :08:15.carrier and the submarine you mentioned, near the North Korean

:08:16. > :08:19.peninsular. All of those moves are necessary to address the situation.

:08:20. > :08:22.And you are hearing a change of rhetoric from the White House.

:08:23. > :08:27.Donald Trump himself saying that he did not think Kim Jong-un was all

:08:28. > :08:30.that strong. That kind of sabre rattling was different to what we

:08:31. > :08:36.heard during the Obama administration. Some critics said

:08:37. > :08:40.outside of politicians but it was counter-productive and could provoke

:08:41. > :08:43.a response from the North Koreans that was unwanted. Am sure that we

:08:44. > :08:47.will talk tomorrow, thank you. The situation in Yemen

:08:48. > :08:48.is increasingly desperate. Just as in Syria, its civil war now

:08:49. > :08:51.features other countries. And just as in Syria,

:08:52. > :08:57.civilians are paying a heavy price. There are 25.6 million

:08:58. > :09:01.people in Yemen. It gives you an idea of the extent

:09:02. > :09:05.of the conflict. Almost 19 million are in urgent

:09:06. > :09:07.need of assistance. Two million of them are children

:09:08. > :09:09.who are acutely malnourished. On average, a child under the age

:09:10. > :09:18.of five dies of preventable causes And this means 50 children in Yemen

:09:19. > :09:27.will die during today's conference, and all those deaths

:09:28. > :09:30.could have been prevented. Many of the children

:09:31. > :09:32.who survive will be affected by stunting and poor health

:09:33. > :09:36.for their entire lives. We are witnessing the starving

:09:37. > :09:38.and the crippling of That's Antonio Guterres speaking

:09:39. > :09:48.at a donor conference The problem here is not

:09:49. > :09:54.just about funding - it's about the war making it hard

:09:55. > :10:04.to get aid to people. These are the two factions

:10:05. > :10:11.fighting for control the internationally-recognised

:10:12. > :10:12.government of President Abdrabbuh Mansour Hadi and those allied

:10:13. > :10:19.to the Houthi rebel movement.- and pockets of Al Qaada presence -

:10:20. > :10:22.and this shows the number of displaced people -

:10:23. > :10:24.the darker the colour the more there are -

:10:25. > :10:27.many pushed from the urban areas because of the violence

:10:28. > :10:35.and Saudi-led coalition bombing. Those in the West are more heavily

:10:36. > :10:38.affected than anywhere else. Whenever we talk about the Yemen

:10:39. > :10:40.conflict, we turn to my colleague... Mai Noman is from Yemen

:10:41. > :10:43.and of our journalists - she explained how she sees

:10:44. > :10:49.the situation in her home country. I have recently come back from

:10:50. > :10:55.spending one month in Yemen, where basically the situation is at a

:10:56. > :10:59.standstill. That is the political situation. On the other side, the

:11:00. > :11:03.humanitarian situation is rapidly deteriorating. Last time I was in

:11:04. > :11:10.Yemen was two years ago when who the rebels stormed the capital and took

:11:11. > :11:16.over. To see the difference in the country after only two years, and

:11:17. > :11:19.how tragic the situation has become, it is shocking. And what are the

:11:20. > :11:25.factors making that humanitarian situation so much worse? As you

:11:26. > :11:31.know, today we heard the donors have pledged over 1 billion dollars to

:11:32. > :11:38.Yemen. That is only half the amount the UN has stated that Yemen needs

:11:39. > :11:42.for the humanitarian crisis. The issue isn't just that there isn't

:11:43. > :11:46.enough money but there is the issue of access. Most of these workers,

:11:47. > :11:49.these aid workers, working on the ground cannot reach those people

:11:50. > :12:00.most in need because of continued fighting. We know the most intense

:12:01. > :12:05.front line in Yemen is a port where most of the imports and aid is

:12:06. > :12:08.delivered. If fighting continues in areas like that, it will only make

:12:09. > :12:17.delivering aid a lot more harder. There needs to be

:12:18. > :12:21.a political and military situation to provide access you are

:12:22. > :12:27.describing. Is it you when taking the lead in trying to drive that? --

:12:28. > :12:31.is it the UN? The root of the problem is the political situation.

:12:32. > :12:34.And the war going on. You have the Saudi led coalition on one side, and

:12:35. > :12:46.the Yemeni government battling with the rebels. Where people at home

:12:47. > :12:51.frustrated with how the world is responding? Do they feel we are

:12:52. > :13:00.paying enough attention? No. They feel completely despondent, that it

:13:01. > :13:03.has become so bad and yet they get very little attention. More

:13:04. > :13:09.background information on the conflict in Yemen on the BBC news

:13:10. > :13:10.website. Stay with us - in a few minutes...

:13:11. > :13:13.Complications with two executions last night in Arkansas -

:13:14. > :13:23.we'll bring you the latest. Our correspondence has spoken to

:13:24. > :13:24.some of the men on death row and relatives of victims. We will hear

:13:25. > :13:35.more in a few minutes. The parents of Madeleine McCann say

:13:36. > :13:39.they will never give up searching for their missing child and

:13:40. > :13:42.described the tenth anniversary of her disappearance which is next week

:13:43. > :13:48.as a horrible marker. She vanished while on holiday in Portugal with

:13:49. > :13:53.her parents. Mark Rowley has revealed that reddish detectives are

:13:54. > :14:02.still working on the case. After this time, even after ten years,

:14:03. > :14:11.there are lines of enquiry that are worth pursuing and that means it is

:14:12. > :14:15.possible they will find an answer, it is possible they won't but as

:14:16. > :14:19.long as we have the resources to do it, and as long as these are

:14:20. > :14:25.sensible lines of enquiry we will keep going down those lines. If we

:14:26. > :14:26.provide an answer to a family in such an awful situation, that is

:14:27. > :14:44.what we must do. This is Outside Source live

:14:45. > :14:46.from the BBC newsroom. Our lead story is? UK

:14:47. > :14:48.Prime Minister Theresa May has taken her general election campaign

:14:49. > :14:51.to Wales, stressing the importance of a United Kingdom

:14:52. > :14:55.in Brexit negotiations. The main stories from BBC World

:14:56. > :14:59.Service... A Thai man has filmed

:15:00. > :15:01.himself killing his baby daughter on Facebook Live -

:15:02. > :15:04.before taking his own life. Relatives of the man

:15:05. > :15:06.saw what was happening and alerted the police -

:15:07. > :15:08.but the authorities Francois Hollande has called

:15:09. > :15:10.for unity in France. He made the remarks during a tribute

:15:11. > :15:14.to a policeman who was shot Both candidates to succeed

:15:15. > :15:22.the president have paid tribute to officer who died -

:15:23. > :15:25.but neither are showing any signs of agreeing with each other

:15:26. > :15:29.on security matters. And this is in the most watched

:15:30. > :15:32.video on the BBC News app. It's the Kitty Hawk -

:15:33. > :15:34.it's a flying car, backed It's a prototype but we're told

:15:35. > :15:39.there are plan to deliver what's being called a "personal flying

:15:40. > :15:48.machine" later this year. Over the last few weeks

:15:49. > :15:50.on Outside Source we've reported on Arkansas' plans to carry out

:15:51. > :15:52.eight executions before On Monday night two more men died -

:15:53. > :16:05.Jack Jones and Marcel Williams. The reason for the rush to execute

:16:06. > :16:09.is that the drug used by Arkansas in lethal injections expires in late

:16:10. > :16:13.April. Jeff Rosenzweig was

:16:14. > :16:18.Jack Jones' lawyer - here he is talking to the BBC

:16:19. > :16:21.about the drugs used. The problem specifically with that

:16:22. > :16:37.drug is that that it is not often effective to in

:16:38. > :16:44.juice the kind of unconsciousness that is necessary to avoid pain and

:16:45. > :16:50.suffering and torture with the second and third drugs. We do not

:16:51. > :16:58.know if, in fact, it worked that way or not. In the case of Mr Jones. Our

:16:59. > :17:03.correspondence has followed this story closely and spoken to some of

:17:04. > :17:06.the men on death row, and relatives of their victims. I have been

:17:07. > :17:12.speaking to him about some of the conversations that he has had. With

:17:13. > :17:17.that man we were talking about, Jack Jones was executed last night and we

:17:18. > :17:22.spoke to family members of the woman who died, the woman who was raped

:17:23. > :17:26.and strangled to death by Jack Jones, and you were hearing from

:17:27. > :17:30.that lawyer, saying that this drug causes suffering and it appears,

:17:31. > :17:35.according to lawyers, that actually Jack Jones went through something of

:17:36. > :17:38.an ordeal last night during the execution. The family of victim said

:17:39. > :17:48.that they do not mind if he suffered a bit because our relative, my wife,

:17:49. > :17:52.suffered when he was assaulting her. Of course it is the responsibility

:17:53. > :17:57.of the state, if they are to put people to death, to do so humanely.

:17:58. > :18:01.There are so many people now saying lethal injection is not a humane way

:18:02. > :18:09.to do this. Last night, lawyers said that it took 41 minutes at least,

:18:10. > :18:17.maybe more, to try and put an intravenous line into Jack Jones 's

:18:18. > :18:22.neck and it was unsuccessful and that is why when the next execution

:18:23. > :18:26.was due to happen, it was stayed at the very last minute. The next

:18:27. > :18:30.person to be executed, Marcel Williams, was on the bed ready to be

:18:31. > :18:35.executed when he was told there was a stay of execution, but one hour

:18:36. > :18:39.later he was brought back and they carried on with that execution. Is

:18:40. > :18:44.the intention for five more men to die before the end of the month?

:18:45. > :18:48.Because of all of these legal battles, partly as you heard from

:18:49. > :18:52.the lawyer about the fact that suffering was caused but in

:18:53. > :18:56.individual cases. We've got to the stage where out of the eight people

:18:57. > :19:00.due to be executed in ten days, there are just four in the end he

:19:01. > :19:05.can be executed. Three of them have already been executed. One more is

:19:06. > :19:18.to come on Thursday. Others have all had stays of

:19:19. > :19:22.execution but what happens to then is then uncertain. The drug runs out

:19:23. > :19:25.at the end of the month and no other drug companies want to sell the

:19:26. > :19:27.state of Arkansas or any state these drugs any more because they know

:19:28. > :19:30.what they are used for. For a drug to be -- for a drug company to be

:19:31. > :19:33.associated with the death penalty is something that they do not want to

:19:34. > :19:35.do. The states have big problems now when it comes to putting people to

:19:36. > :19:35.death. Donald Trump has imposed

:19:36. > :19:37.tariffs on some imports. For instance, timber

:19:38. > :19:39.from Canada will be subject This is all in line

:19:40. > :19:44.with the President's And because this is Canada,

:19:45. > :19:48.we need to see it in the context of Mr Trump's desire to ditch

:19:49. > :19:50.the North America That's between the US,

:19:51. > :19:53.Canada and Mexico. Well Mexico's economy secretary has

:19:54. > :20:10.spoken to the BBC about the prospect If you think for instance they will

:20:11. > :20:16.impose a specific tariff on imports, at the end of the day, these are US

:20:17. > :20:22.consumers who will pay for it. Any other idea that comes to mind, you

:20:23. > :20:26.need to review precisely, at the end of the day, who will be carrying the

:20:27. > :20:32.burden of that decision. That you are clear and on record as saying

:20:33. > :20:42.that if tariffs were imposed there would be repercussions? Obviously.

:20:43. > :20:45.It is obvious that it would basically be aggravated, you need to

:20:46. > :20:51.analyse and respond to the consequence. We do not have to

:20:52. > :20:58.anticipate. We are at a point where we would like to look at this

:20:59. > :21:03.constructively. Understanding that there are deep differences in terms

:21:04. > :21:11.of how to view these key issues. We believe that there are ways to work

:21:12. > :21:16.constructively and think about the Nafta which will benefit the

:21:17. > :21:18.countries. It was not just timber that Mr Trump followed up on...

:21:19. > :21:21.Mr Trump followed up on the Canadian border tariff announcement with this

:21:22. > :21:24.tweet @realDonaldTrump "Canada has made business for our dairy farmers

:21:25. > :21:26.in Wisconsin and other border states very difficult.

:21:27. > :21:31.Meanwhile, the US Treasury Secretary said "It has been a bad week

:21:32. > :21:51.These two states at odds, are they suggesting that these new tariffs

:21:52. > :21:57.are unhelpful? I think that we need to look at what is being said,

:21:58. > :22:01.within the larger context of the North American Free Trade Agreement.

:22:02. > :22:04.As we have spoken about many times, it is clear that President Trump

:22:05. > :22:10.wants to start the process of re-negotiating the decade-old

:22:11. > :22:18.agreement. This is the kind of rhetoric you here before we begin to

:22:19. > :22:21.embark on those kinds of grievances. Softwood lumber has been a

:22:22. > :22:27.long-standing grievance between Canada and the US. With regards to

:22:28. > :22:31.dairy, there is a feeling within the US that Canadian farmers are getting

:22:32. > :22:35.an unfair subsidy. Canadian dairy farmers feel similarly when it comes

:22:36. > :22:40.to American dairy farmers. Looking at all of this within the wider

:22:41. > :22:44.context of re-negotiating Nafta, these are people drawing lines in

:22:45. > :22:51.the sand about what they want, to put on the table, when discussions

:22:52. > :22:54.finally begin. What is the timetable on Nafta either being ditched or at

:22:55. > :23:01.least renegotiated? A very good question! Many people expect that it

:23:02. > :23:11.will not be until at least August before they renegotiate again.

:23:12. > :23:14.Yesterday, the US Chamber of Commerce is rather optimistic and

:23:15. > :23:16.believes a reformulated plan could be in place by about 2018. Similar,

:23:17. > :23:22.thank A British firm has announced plans

:23:23. > :23:25.to build the world's most advanced artificial intelligence

:23:26. > :23:35.health care platform. This is a company called Babylon

:23:36. > :23:43.based in London and they have announced today got million dollars

:23:44. > :23:46.to build a doctor in your pocket, -- $60 million.

:23:47. > :23:50.They will be giving advice to patients via a smartphone camera.

:23:51. > :23:54.They take that data and data from an advice line they have got for

:23:55. > :23:58.British patients. They feed it into a computer, through a process called

:23:59. > :24:02.machine learning, and eventually they will have a programme which is

:24:03. > :24:07.as good at dealing with a patient and giving a diagnosis as any

:24:08. > :24:12.general doctor. In fact, in the long run, it is better than any doctor.

:24:13. > :24:16.They have all of that data and more data than any single doctor could

:24:17. > :24:21.possibly absorbed in their lifetime. So a user would say, I have a rash

:24:22. > :24:29.on my forearm, what is this, what do I do with my phone? How would I get

:24:30. > :24:33.advice? You could talk to your phone and initiate a conversation.

:24:34. > :24:36.Describe the symptoms and the smartphone has sensors built into

:24:37. > :24:40.it. You would have a relationship with it and it would know your

:24:41. > :24:45.health history and feed you a series of questions which you would answer,

:24:46. > :24:49.taking into account everything it knows about you. Your fitness

:24:50. > :24:54.tracker might be linked to it, and it could give you a diagnosis to

:24:55. > :24:58.tell you what is wrong. It sounds like a bit of a nightmare for

:24:59. > :25:02.doctors... For professional doctors. But the company is working with

:25:03. > :25:08.doctors and is keen to stress no, this will be a supplement, not a

:25:09. > :25:13.replacement? You second-guess the next question I was going to ask! In

:25:14. > :25:17.the past we know doctors have been frustrated coming into the surgery

:25:18. > :25:25.saying they'd look things up on the Internet and they think it is

:25:26. > :25:30.this... This is being aimed not only at patients in Britain, but places

:25:31. > :25:33.in the developing world where maybe it is difficult to get access to a

:25:34. > :25:38.doctor. The idea and the claim is, these are

:25:39. > :25:42.big claims, a lot of people are working in this field and it will

:25:43. > :25:45.extend health care to those who do not have it. Not replacing it but

:25:46. > :25:49.there are a lot of places where there are huge shortages of doctors

:25:50. > :25:53.and this will fill in the gap. In a few minutes we will hear from

:25:54. > :25:56.Jimmy Wales, the co-founder of Wikipedia, taking your questions on

:25:57. > :25:59.his plan to take on fake news...