:00:09. > :00:10.Hello, I'm Ros Atkins, this is Outside Source.
:00:11. > :00:16.These are the main stories in the BBC Newsroom right now.
:00:17. > :00:18.UK Prime Minister, Theresa May, has taken her general
:00:19. > :00:20.election campaign to Wales, with six weeks to go
:00:21. > :00:24.Voters traditionally back the Labour Party there
:00:25. > :00:26.but she urged them to turn to the Conservatives.
:00:27. > :00:31.A vote for any other party would be a vote for a weak and failing Jeremy
:00:32. > :00:34.Corbyn, propped up by a coalition of chaos, which would risk our
:00:35. > :00:48.The Labour Party has been detailing how that would oversee Brexit
:00:49. > :00:50.negotiations. The tension around the Korean
:00:51. > :00:52.peninsula continues to ratchet up. A US submarine has arrived
:00:53. > :00:54.in South Korean waters. North Korea is carrying out a large
:00:55. > :00:57.military drill and there are fears it could be planning another missile
:00:58. > :01:17.or nuclear test. Ivanka Trump has been talking about
:01:18. > :01:24.her father. He's been a tremendous champion
:01:25. > :01:58.of supporting families, Let's hear from the founder of
:01:59. > :02:09.Wikipedia, he has a brand-new project which has the purpose of
:02:10. > :02:12.taking on fake news. Here is Jimmy Wales talking to me earlier about
:02:13. > :02:19.the initiative before we get into some questions. Everybody has been
:02:20. > :02:27.talking about the problem of fake news, also we see low quality clip
:02:28. > :02:30.bait site which are polluting the Internet so that's a fairly clear
:02:31. > :02:35.problem and I think part of the solution is to really look at the
:02:36. > :02:40.business model of journalism and the production model so what I want to
:02:41. > :02:45.do is bring together good serious thoughtful community members like
:02:46. > :02:49.the Wikipedia community, with professional journalists who work
:02:50. > :02:54.side-by-side to create something new, something different, in terms
:02:55. > :02:58.of quality journalism that has a community focus. I mentioned on
:02:59. > :03:03.Twitter I would be talking to you and they have questions. How do you
:03:04. > :03:08.ensure the editors themselves will not be biased and not inject their
:03:09. > :03:12.own agenda? Every news organisation has to deal with that and if you
:03:13. > :03:18.have an objective to be neutral you have got to keep challenging
:03:19. > :03:22.yourself, but in this case we also have an open community, much like at
:03:23. > :03:26.Wikipedia where, if you see something that is biased, you can
:03:27. > :03:30.challenge it and discuss it with people. Having that open system
:03:31. > :03:35.where everything is open to dialogue is helpful in terms of striving to
:03:36. > :03:48.become more neutral. Here is one from you -- from a journalist in New
:03:49. > :03:53.Delhi. Yes, we will be hiring journalists, doing traditional
:03:54. > :03:57.things. Full-time journalists, with freelancers to fill in around the
:03:58. > :04:02.edges, but also community members who are well positioned to do an
:04:03. > :04:07.interview who may get paid, may not, depending on the context. This is
:04:08. > :04:11.Simone, a journalist in Frankfurt, who says what about information
:04:12. > :04:18.obtained by sources that either have to be or wish to be anonymous? The
:04:19. > :04:23.point here is to say you are absolutely right, not everything can
:04:24. > :04:27.be... You cannot show your work in all cases. When you cannot, that
:04:28. > :04:32.requires an additional level of thought and scrutiny from your
:04:33. > :04:37.editor, but in many cases traditionally newspapers didn't show
:04:38. > :04:42.all their work or provide all their sources because there wasn't space
:04:43. > :04:48.in the newspaper. Now we are online, still a lot don't provide their
:04:49. > :04:54.sources. They could post a full transcript of their interview. Not
:04:55. > :04:58.so much the people will read every transcript, but it means that
:04:59. > :05:05.outside people can do the matching up and give it more of a level of
:05:06. > :05:09.credibility, to say all right, if the transcript is wildly different
:05:10. > :05:15.from the quote, somebody can raise that objection and say hey, hold on,
:05:16. > :05:26.that is not fair representation. One more for you from Kieron.
:05:27. > :05:35.For sure. One of the things we want from good quality journalists is to
:05:36. > :05:39.be that fact check on, for example, politicians. Lots of news
:05:40. > :05:44.organisations do that, we want to do it as well, but these days we are
:05:45. > :05:48.also witnessing something which is relatively new, which is well
:05:49. > :05:56.funded, either possibly state funded or funded by scammers, basically a
:05:57. > :06:01.problem with scam, genuinely fake news. Fake headlines being spread on
:06:02. > :06:07.social media. That is something we all need to get serious about, let's
:06:08. > :06:12.object to that and say hey, that's not right. Thanks to Jimmy Wales for
:06:13. > :06:22.coming on and answering your questions. It is called WikiTribune.
:06:23. > :06:29.On to sport, this is the Premier League table. Mark Edwards is in the
:06:30. > :06:35.BBC sports Centre. Last time I checked it was going to plan for
:06:36. > :06:40.Chelsea. Absolutely, it has just finished and Chelsea have regained
:06:41. > :06:45.their 7-point lead at the top of the English Premier League after beating
:06:46. > :06:50.Southampton 4-2. A perfect four days for the Londoners after knocking out
:06:51. > :06:55.Tottenham Hotspur in the FA Cup semifinal. They have seen off Saints
:06:56. > :07:01.at Stamford Bridge and it's a good turn in form for Chelsea, they have
:07:02. > :07:06.lost two games in their last four league matches, but now they have
:07:07. > :07:15.seen their lead cut from ten to four, now back to seven, and Eden
:07:16. > :07:21.Hazard scored after just five minutes directly from material from
:07:22. > :07:31.Diego Costa. Southampton back into it through Romeu, 20 minutes later,
:07:32. > :07:39.who certainly enjoyed scoring against his former club. Diego
:07:40. > :07:43.Costa's 50th Premier League goal gave Chelsea a 3-1 lead, he then
:07:44. > :07:51.scored again at the death and there was a Nathan Redmond goal a few
:07:52. > :07:56.moments before the end, 4-2. It's now over to Tottenham Hotspur, they
:07:57. > :08:02.take on Crystal Palace on Wednesday at Selhurst Park and they will be
:08:03. > :08:09.looking to regain or cut that lead at the top. Thank you for the
:08:10. > :08:15.update. Plans to retire from the NASCAR
:08:16. > :08:21.Monster Cup series at the end He's been most popular
:08:22. > :08:32.driver 14 times! He's had a rough time
:08:33. > :08:36.this year though and is This man is crawling
:08:37. > :08:41.the London Marathon dressed as a gorilla, he's only
:08:42. > :08:46.about half-way through the course and he's two days
:08:47. > :08:49.after the race began. Tom Harrison, who calls
:08:50. > :08:58.himself Mr Gorilla, has the goal finishing
:08:59. > :09:00.on his hands and knees, You can find more on that on the BBC
:09:01. > :09:09.news app. Stay with us - in a few minutes
:09:10. > :09:13.we'll bring you a report from the US about efforts to combat
:09:14. > :09:35.the notorious Central American Tim Farron has said he does not
:09:36. > :09:37.think gay sex is soon. The Liberal Democrat leader was speaking to
:09:38. > :09:49.political correspondent. I think it's fair to say I've
:09:50. > :09:51.answered the question. It's a subject he's been
:09:52. > :09:53.asked about again... You won't say whether you think
:09:54. > :09:56.having gay sex is a sin... Does the honourable member think
:09:57. > :10:00.that being gay is a sin? You said, homosexuality
:10:01. > :10:02.is not a sin. They said that you didn't
:10:03. > :10:05.answer when they asked While he said being gay is fine,
:10:06. > :10:09.until today, the Lib Dem leader, a committed Christian,
:10:10. > :10:12.has refused to answer this question. I take the view that,
:10:13. > :10:16.as a political leader, though, my job is not to pontificate
:10:17. > :10:18.on theological matters. This had become a talking
:10:19. > :10:20.point, an issue. In that case, if people have kind
:10:21. > :10:23.of got the wrong opinion of what I think about these issues,
:10:24. > :10:25.then that's something It's taken him almost two
:10:26. > :10:28.years, since becoming the leader of the Lib Dems,
:10:29. > :10:32.to clarify his position. But the pressure has increased
:10:33. > :10:36.since the election was called. So, what's changed in the last 48
:10:37. > :10:39.hours that you are now able to say that you don't think gay sex
:10:40. > :10:43.is a sin, yet for the last two years you have very blatantly
:10:44. > :10:48.swerved the question? Well, I'm quite careful how
:10:49. > :10:50.I talk about my faith. So you were either
:10:51. > :11:00.misleading people before, So the answer to that is that
:11:01. > :11:07.I was asked a question early on, and I didn't want to get into a sort
:11:08. > :11:10.of series of questions unpicking Isn't it just that it
:11:11. > :11:14.is your Christian belief, What I want is to make sure
:11:15. > :11:22.that we deal with something It's a sense of understanding that,
:11:23. > :11:30.you know, the questions I don't think people want political
:11:31. > :11:38.party leaders telling Mr Farron insisted the Lib Dems have
:11:39. > :11:43.undoubtedly the best record on gay But it's clear the issue
:11:44. > :11:47.and the questions around it have troubled him personally,
:11:48. > :11:49.and politically, too. Eleanor Garnier, BBC
:11:50. > :12:05.News, Westminster. This is Outside Source. Our lead
:12:06. > :12:10.story concerns the election. UK Prime Minister Theresa May
:12:11. > :12:12.has taken her general election campaign to Wales,
:12:13. > :12:14.stressing the importance of a United Kingdom
:12:15. > :12:24.in Brexit negotiations. If you want more details on what the
:12:25. > :12:28.Labour Party has been saying about its position on Brexit, you can find
:12:29. > :12:30.that online on the BBC news website right now.
:12:31. > :12:33.President Trump has argued that violent crime in America is largely
:12:34. > :12:47.He has been saying the Democrats don't want to give him money for the
:12:48. > :12:50.border wall despite the fact it will stop drugs and it will stop bad gang
:12:51. > :12:55.members from MS13. First, it's heavily disputed that
:12:56. > :12:59.that will have a significant impact And second, that reference
:13:00. > :13:03.to the MS13 gang. It's just made headlines
:13:04. > :13:05.because of brutal actions A week ago, four young men
:13:06. > :13:29.were murdered in a forest This officer is on the lookout for
:13:30. > :13:38.central members of the gang MS13, whose brutality has cost so much
:13:39. > :13:47.freer here. Ending up on the wrong side of this gang can mean a death
:13:48. > :13:51.sentence. Flowers mark where 15-year-old niece was found, beaten
:13:52. > :13:59.to death by alleged members of MS13, the majority of whom were here
:14:00. > :14:04.illegally. President Trump says it is precisely these cases that
:14:05. > :14:10.justify a crackdown on immigration. Still in mourning, her parents say
:14:11. > :14:14.there was no reason their daughter had to die. They want police to take
:14:15. > :14:19.back the street as well as tougher screening of immigrants. When you
:14:20. > :14:25.come to the United States it's a dream, you want to make a dream for
:14:26. > :14:29.your family, everyone does. But some people just come for the wrong
:14:30. > :14:35.thing. President Trump's campaign against illegal immigration has
:14:36. > :14:39.threatened the trust between the police and the Latino community.
:14:40. > :14:44.Police say they cannot fight gangs without information from the
:14:45. > :14:48.immigrant community, so the risk is that the very policies President
:14:49. > :14:55.Trump champions to make communities safer are instead making them more
:14:56. > :15:00.dangerous. This commission says his officers will never act as
:15:01. > :15:05.immigration enforcers. Winnie to make an environment in which people
:15:06. > :15:10.feel comfortable coming to the police department to provide
:15:11. > :15:15.information. The difficult challenges getting the word out.
:15:16. > :15:21.When there is this rhetoric it is hard to compete with that noise. At
:15:22. > :15:27.this refugee centre, the new residents are learning the language
:15:28. > :15:31.of their new home in one of the few places they feel safe. It is not the
:15:32. > :15:34.fear of gangs but the fear of deportation that makes them
:15:35. > :15:38.uncomfortable coming to the police. People won't stop the police to ask
:15:39. > :15:43.them anything for fear that without papers they might be arrested and
:15:44. > :15:48.deported. Blaming crime on immigration was a key part of Donald
:15:49. > :15:53.Trump's campaign, but with crime, as with other things, the early days of
:15:54. > :15:59.his presidency show how hard it is to translate slogans into solutions.
:16:00. > :16:02.That's the story of MS 13 in Long Island.
:16:03. > :16:05.But this is a transnational gang.
:16:06. > :16:08.It has its roots in El Salvador and there are over 2,500 members
:16:09. > :16:16.And while many of the original members were from El Salvador,
:16:17. > :16:18.the gang was properly established in Los Angeles and the San
:16:19. > :16:24.A short while ago, I spoke to BBC Mundo's correspondent
:16:25. > :16:33.in Los Angeles, Beatriz Diez - she explained how this gang started.
:16:34. > :16:42.MS13 was formed here in Los Angeles in the 1980s by immigrants who were
:16:43. > :16:48.fleeing El Salvador's brutal civil war and also fleeing poverty and
:16:49. > :16:54.violence. And now that this group has existed for several decades,
:16:55. > :16:59.does it still consider California to be its base? Actually what we are
:17:00. > :17:03.seeing now, and as was reported before, this late rise of crimes
:17:04. > :17:09.attribute it to this gang are happening on the east coast and that
:17:10. > :17:13.is an interesting development. A few months ago I was working around the
:17:14. > :17:22.streets of Los Angeles trying to do some research for a graphics 's
:17:23. > :17:30.story and I saw the streets, and you can't really see much of the
:17:31. > :17:39.remains, but the graffiti is not so much related to MS13 or the other
:17:40. > :17:46.big gang operating in the 1980s in Los Angeles. In 1984 the Olympics
:17:47. > :17:50.were being celebrated in Los Angeles, and the then-President
:17:51. > :17:56.Ronald Reagan wanted to try to clean the streets so to say, and there
:17:57. > :18:01.were very big crackdowns on the gangs. To what degree did the
:18:02. > :18:11.American authorities and El Salvador authorities worked together on this?
:18:12. > :18:16.What we saw afterwards, after the 1980s and in the 1990s, there were
:18:17. > :18:21.many of these people, members of these gangs were deported back to El
:18:22. > :18:29.Salvador and other Central American countries, because there are also
:18:30. > :18:32.members from Honduras, what a Mahler and Mexico, although mainly they
:18:33. > :18:38.were from El Salvador. They were deported back and that's how they
:18:39. > :18:42.became so big in Central America because they were coming back from
:18:43. > :18:51.California. If you speak Spanish comic and get news through BBC
:18:52. > :18:55.Mundo.com. Ivanka Trump has made her first
:18:56. > :18:58.foreign trip since being appointed She's in Germany, and has met
:18:59. > :19:03.Angela Merkel among others. Taking her place among the world's
:19:04. > :19:06.most powerful women. The First Daughter, rubbing
:19:07. > :19:08.shoulders with a Chancellor, Though, almost immediately,
:19:09. > :19:12.Ivanka Trump found herself He's been a tremendous champion
:19:13. > :19:21.of supporting families, Donald Trump's special
:19:22. > :19:29.adviser persisted. As a daughter, I can speak
:19:30. > :19:31.on a very personal level, knowing that he encouraged me
:19:32. > :19:34.and enabled me to thrive. I grew up in a house
:19:35. > :19:36.where there was no barriers And the First Daughter has gone
:19:37. > :19:44.on to make powerful friends. She's accompanied her father
:19:45. > :19:46.to talks with the leaders Her first solo overseas trip
:19:47. > :19:54.was at the direct invitation ...empowering women
:19:55. > :20:05.and charming one in particular. Berlin wants, needs, stronger ties
:20:06. > :20:14.to the Trump administration. TRANSLATION: It's the strategy
:20:15. > :20:16.of dialogue, that's You can reach Trump
:20:17. > :20:28.through his daughter. Every woman should do things
:20:29. > :20:31.by her own, by her own status and by her own positions,
:20:32. > :20:33.and not because of her What you're seeing here may well
:20:34. > :20:36.mark a profound shift in the way that Germany,
:20:37. > :20:38.Europe, does business Ivanka Trump wields significant
:20:39. > :20:41.influence with her father. The relationship that Angela Merkel
:20:42. > :20:43.and other leaders strike with the First Daughter will be
:20:44. > :20:46.closely scrutinised on both Expect to see more of the First
:20:47. > :20:57.Daughter on the international stage. In the age of Trump,
:20:58. > :21:30.it seems, family comes first. Rajini, Ivanka Trump and her father
:21:31. > :21:36.were incredibly powerful before this trip but I guess this builds on
:21:37. > :21:41.that? Of course there has been a lot of criticism about her role in the
:21:42. > :21:44.White House, people saying it is nepotism, but there are others,
:21:45. > :21:48.especially Trump supporters I have spoken to, who like the fact she is
:21:49. > :21:54.in the White House. She's always seen by her father 's side and she's
:21:55. > :21:58.been credited for softening some of his policy stances. Eric Trump said
:21:59. > :22:02.it was her influence that was one of the guiding factors that led
:22:03. > :22:10.President Trump to launch the air strike in Syria. You have been
:22:11. > :22:14.talking to 100 voters during Donald Trump's first 100 days in office,
:22:15. > :22:16.here is a Facebook live you have just done with three of them. The
:22:17. > :22:43.highlight I would say is the appointment of Judge Neil Gorsuch. I
:22:44. > :22:46.think the lowlight was the reform of healthcare, the willingness of this
:22:47. > :22:50.administration and the Republicans in Congress to allow 20 million
:22:51. > :22:57.Americans to go without care was a tragedy. For me the highlight was
:22:58. > :23:01.also Judge Neil Gorsuch. The question I get asked most about
:23:02. > :23:05.American politics is to what degree did the people who voted for Donald
:23:06. > :23:11.Trump change his mind or not about his performance. I should say this
:23:12. > :23:16.was only 100 people so it is not a survey, just our own focus group,
:23:17. > :23:21.but of 50 people who voted for Donald Trump who I contacted again,
:23:22. > :23:26.only two of them said they wouldn't vote for him again. One of them said
:23:27. > :23:30.it was because of the strikes in Syria, another said it was because
:23:31. > :23:34.she was on the fence when she voted for him in the first place. Broadly
:23:35. > :23:43.speaking every Trump supporter I have spoken to is happy with what he
:23:44. > :23:47.has done. They said he has done exactly what he said he would do,
:23:48. > :23:50.the travel ban, getting the wall under way, and one of the things
:23:51. > :23:57.that comes up most is the appointment of Judge Neil Gorsuch.
:23:58. > :24:01.That is why they say they are happy. Conversely, on the 50 who didn't
:24:02. > :24:06.vote for Donald Trump, only about two said they would vote for him now
:24:07. > :24:11.and they were Republicans who were on the fence, but every Democrat I
:24:12. > :24:15.have spoken to cannot find much good to say about their president. Where
:24:16. > :24:21.can we find all of these conversations you have been having?
:24:22. > :24:24.You can find it on the BBC website, on the US and Canada section, and
:24:25. > :24:30.there will be case studies about the people I have spoken to in the past
:24:31. > :24:42.few weeks about President Trump's first 100 days. Thank you, Rajini.
:24:43. > :24:45.There will be more coming on the website is the week goes on. I
:24:46. > :24:59.should also mention that if you have a smartphone you can open your app
:25:00. > :25:01.store, download the BBC news app. That's it for this edition, see you
:25:02. > :25:12.tomorrow, goodbye. It certainly was a cold start of the
:25:13. > :25:19.day on Tuesday with sunshine for many but showers developed quite
:25:20. > :25:20.widely with rain, hail and sleet, and even some