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:00:08. > :00:10.Hello, I'm Nuala McGovern, this is Outside Source.

:00:11. > :00:12.The two contenders for the French presidency are going head-to-head

:00:13. > :00:20.20 million viewers are expected to tune in as centrist candidate

:00:21. > :00:23.Emmanuel Macron and his far-right rival Marine Le Pen try to convince

:00:24. > :00:29.undecided voters why they should be the next French President.

:00:30. > :00:32.The debate being seen as the climax of a long and bitter campaign.

:00:33. > :00:35.The final run-off takes place this Sunday.

:00:36. > :00:38.As the UK gears up for its own election, the gloves

:00:39. > :00:43.Threats against Britain have been issued by European

:00:44. > :00:49.All of these acts have been deliberately timed to affect

:00:50. > :00:55.the result of the general election that will take place on June eighth.

:00:56. > :00:57.The FBI Director has defended his decision to make public

:00:58. > :00:59.the re-opening of an investigation into Hillary Clinton's

:01:00. > :01:05.emails less than two weeks before the US election.

:01:06. > :01:08.Everybody who disagrees with me has to come back to October 28th with me

:01:09. > :01:11.and stare at this and tell me what you would do.

:01:12. > :01:14.Would you speak or would you conceal?

:01:15. > :01:17.We'll talk to Anthony Zurcher in Washington about that and we'll

:01:18. > :01:19.hear from Barbara Plett-Usher about the Palestinian President's

:01:20. > :01:39.That's all coming up on Outside Source.

:01:40. > :01:41.French presidential candidates Marine Le Pen and Emmanuel Macron

:01:42. > :01:44.have just begun a live televised debate ahead of Sunday's second

:01:45. > :01:53.and final round of voting in the presidential election.

:01:54. > :02:05.Let's take a look at what is happening. TRANSLATION: Ameen, they

:02:06. > :02:12.are financed from abroad. You know all about that. Qatar and all these

:02:13. > :02:18.countries. I remember that at the time you maintain tax exonerations

:02:19. > :02:21.and exemptions for investment from these countries. And in your

:02:22. > :02:26.governments, I believe that you granted some Republican decoration

:02:27. > :02:31.to one of these people, you gave them a medal. We have to eradicate

:02:32. > :02:37.the fundamentalist eye John G in our country, that is not something you

:02:38. > :02:42.are able to do or are doing -- eradicate the fundamentalist

:02:43. > :02:44.ideology. Your toy might hold you in its claws, it is really scary.

:02:45. > :02:46.Marine Le Pen speaking. I'm joined by Agnes Poirier,

:02:47. > :02:53.journalist and broadcaster. She has been watching this and will

:02:54. > :02:58.be with us throughout the were. It looked pretty sparky as I was

:02:59. > :03:03.watching it? The gloves are off. Basically, she started off very

:03:04. > :03:08.well, but then on the economy, not her favourite topic, she kept

:03:09. > :03:11.attacking a Emmanuel Macron, not explaining her manifesto or

:03:12. > :03:17.anything. Micron scored a lot of points then. He actually looks a bit

:03:18. > :03:21.condescending, a bit arrogant, because all she was doing was

:03:22. > :03:30.attacking him. And then they went on to talk about social care and

:03:31. > :03:36.national health insurance in France, the debate cooled off a bit. Now

:03:37. > :03:42.they are debating terrorism, a topic she is much more comfortable in. We

:03:43. > :03:46.will expect some more robust, but perhaps she will gain back some

:03:47. > :03:52.credibility. The first part of the debate she was really not at her

:03:53. > :03:57.best. Another hour and a half of this debate? It is very wrong. And I

:03:58. > :04:06.have hardly seen the two moderators speak. That is what happens during

:04:07. > :04:10.that debate, those journalists are not journalists, they are just there

:04:11. > :04:14.to canned minutes in time allocations. Just need to make sure

:04:15. > :04:18.that one does not talk more than the other. Those numbers that the

:04:19. > :04:26.viewers will be seeing on-screen are the minutes allocated so far in the

:04:27. > :04:30.hour, proceeding, basically, how much each candidate has spoken. Can

:04:31. > :04:37.these debates really make a difference? I have heard 18% are

:04:38. > :04:41.undecided. Of course. It is the last thing, the climax of the

:04:42. > :04:46.second-round campaign. As you said, the abstention might be very, very

:04:47. > :04:53.high this year at this election, so they need to go for the last voters,

:04:54. > :04:58.basically, they need to attract them and convince them. It is a

:04:59. > :05:03.pantomime, theatre. Even watching the body language, it was

:05:04. > :05:05.incredible. Thank you, Agnes Poirier, you will be with us

:05:06. > :05:07.throughout the other, watching it for us and bringing us up to speed

:05:08. > :05:08.on the issues. Where do these two candidates stand

:05:09. > :05:12.on some of the bigger issues On the EU, Emmanuel Macron

:05:13. > :05:18.has said he supports Marine Le Pen wants out

:05:19. > :05:28.and has said she will hold This is what a lot of people talk

:05:29. > :05:31.about when they talk about these candidates.

:05:32. > :05:33.On immigration, Emmanual Macron favours giving citizenship to those

:05:34. > :05:42.Marine Le Pen says she wants to stop illegal immigration and cap overall

:05:43. > :05:56.On France's sacred 35 hour work week, Emmanuel

:05:57. > :06:00.on that but says any overtime pay will be exempt from tax.

:06:01. > :06:03.I thought that was an interesting aspect of it.

:06:04. > :06:05.Marine Le Pen simply says she will keep it.

:06:06. > :06:13.One place being closely watched this election is the town of Troyes.

:06:14. > :06:16.Emmanuel Macron and Marine Le Pen were separated by less

:06:17. > :06:23.Francois Fillon won the vote here, but with him out of the picture it

:06:24. > :06:39.Here we are in the north-west of France in an area famous for it

:06:40. > :06:46.champagne but also for textile industry. Famous brands like Lacoste

:06:47. > :06:51.come from here. This is a conservative stronghold but Marine

:06:52. > :06:56.Le Pen has come first in the first round in the whole of the region,

:06:57. > :07:03.with the regional score of 30.3%, which gives you a bit of an idea

:07:04. > :07:07.what may happen on Sunday. She clearly has a strong lead in this

:07:08. > :07:14.region. How are people bad feeling about the debate on the run-off, the

:07:15. > :07:18.second-round of the election? -- how are people there feeling? We were at

:07:19. > :07:22.the local market and people were saying they have not decided what to

:07:23. > :07:27.votes on Sunday, they will be waiting for the debate to decide.

:07:28. > :07:31.Depending on the performance of either candidate. It is interesting

:07:32. > :07:41.to note that 15 years ago when John Marine Le Pen -- John Marine Le Pen

:07:42. > :07:45.was in the final against Jacques Chirac, Chirac refused to debate

:07:46. > :07:49.with him because he said there is no debate to have with the far right.

:07:50. > :07:56.It is the first time the far right candidate has participated in a

:07:57. > :07:59.debates, a key moment in the debate in France. It will be interesting to

:08:00. > :08:08.see how Emmanuel Macron, the outsider, the former banker,

:08:09. > :08:14.pro-European candidates, will handle this debate tonight. It will be the

:08:15. > :08:19.occasion for both candidates to voice their programme and try to

:08:20. > :08:25.convince voters to turn out on Sunday, but of course we will see

:08:26. > :08:30.what kind of performance they will be having. It is a bit of a gamble

:08:31. > :08:34.for both candidates. Whether it will have an impact on the last-minute

:08:35. > :08:40.decision of voters, we will know very soon. We will keep you across

:08:41. > :08:43.that story throughout this hour. Thank you to Thomas Fessy.

:08:44. > :08:45.Theresa May has launched an attack on Brussels -

:08:46. > :08:47.shortly after she attended the dissolution of parliament before

:08:48. > :08:50.Brexit negotiations are central to the UK election campaign

:08:51. > :09:06.Whoever wins on the 8th of June will face one overriding task, to get the

:09:07. > :09:10.best possible deal for this United best possible deal for this United

:09:11. > :09:18.Kingdom from Brexit. And in the last few days, we have seen just how

:09:19. > :09:23.tough these talks are likely to be. Britain's negotiating position in

:09:24. > :09:27.Europe has been misrepresented in the continental press. The European

:09:28. > :09:31.Commission 's gauche rating stands has hardened. Threats against

:09:32. > :09:36.Britain have been issued by European politicians and officials. All of

:09:37. > :09:40.these acts have been deliberately timed to affect the result of the

:09:41. > :09:42.general election battle take place on the 8th of June.

:09:43. > :09:45.Meanwhile the European Union's chief Brexit negotiator has been setting

:09:46. > :09:47.out his priorities for the first phase of talks with

:09:48. > :09:51.Speaking earlier today in Brussels, he said there were three

:09:52. > :10:04.Our recommendation shows where we want to land when we conclude the

:10:05. > :10:11.first phase of negotiations. Citizens rights, the financial

:10:12. > :10:18.settlement and a new external border. I will pay great attention

:10:19. > :10:21.to the situation in Ireland and I will be going to Ireland next week.

:10:22. > :10:23.Curious what he will say that. After he set out the EU's main

:10:24. > :10:26.priorities, Mr Barnier made it clear that the Brexit process will not be

:10:27. > :10:36.easy. Some have created the illusion that

:10:37. > :10:43.Brexit would have no material impact on our lives, all that negotiations

:10:44. > :10:49.can be concluded quickly and painlessly. This is not the case.

:10:50. > :10:51.One thing Mr Barnier didn't mention was the size

:10:52. > :10:54.of the Brexit bill or, as he called it, the

:10:55. > :10:57.The Financial Times reported this morning that the UK might have

:10:58. > :11:07.This what the UK Brexit Secretary had to say about that.

:11:08. > :11:14.The numbers that have been bandied around in the press, 50, 60, 100

:11:15. > :11:19.million, we don't recognise and we had no indication of it. We have

:11:20. > :11:23.said throughout that we will meet international obligations and enter

:11:24. > :11:24.into the negotiation in the best interests of us and the European

:11:25. > :11:24.Union. Earlier I spoke to Alex Forsyth

:11:25. > :11:35.from our Westminster studio. This is quite an extraordinary

:11:36. > :11:40.intervention by Theresa May. She accused some in Brussels of not

:11:41. > :11:44.wanting the UK to get a good deal out of Brexit, she accused them of

:11:45. > :11:48.trying to interfere with the outcome of the UK general election, so she

:11:49. > :11:53.is ramping up the rhetoric. Part of that reason is because she thinks I

:11:54. > :11:57.play well with some voters in the UK, those who backed Brexit might

:11:58. > :12:01.want to see Theresa May take a tub stands going into the negotiations,

:12:02. > :12:06.but it is a gamble because not everyone in the UK backed Brexit on

:12:07. > :12:10.some might not like the tough talk. If Theresa May wins the general

:12:11. > :12:14.election on June the 8th she will have to sit down and negotiate with

:12:15. > :12:20.the EU, this kind of language and the kind of accusation she has made

:12:21. > :12:28.may not play well with them. Say they are words that cannot be

:12:29. > :12:30.unsaid, it is starting off on a very poisonous, some would say,

:12:31. > :12:35.atmosphere to begin negotiations that Britain is looking to get a

:12:36. > :12:40.good deal in? One Theresa May sent the letter which began the official

:12:41. > :12:44.process of the UK leaving the EU, she did show -- did so in terms of

:12:45. > :12:48.goodwill, talking about the special partnership and reaching out to EU

:12:49. > :12:53.leaders. The hope was that negotiations would be done really

:12:54. > :12:57.positively. In the last few days we have seen briefings from Brussels

:12:58. > :13:01.against the Prime Minister after she met senior EU officials in Downing

:13:02. > :13:04.Street, now Theresa May has said what she has said today, there are

:13:05. > :13:09.plenty who say that once you say these things they will be there for

:13:10. > :13:13.the duration. Some in the EU recognise that the little context in

:13:14. > :13:17.the UK, there is an election going on which will be the first priority

:13:18. > :13:22.for Theresa May. They said any suggestion that EU officials are

:13:23. > :13:27.interfering is pure fantasy, but nonetheless it sets the tone for the

:13:28. > :13:30.negotiations, which were already going to be very difficult.

:13:31. > :13:34.Donald Trump welcomes Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas

:13:35. > :13:36.to the White House to talk Middle East peace.

:13:37. > :13:39.We'll be live in Washington to find out what's been said

:13:40. > :13:44.A 20-year old student has been found guilty of planting a home-made bomb

:13:45. > :13:48.Damon Smith, who has Asperger's syndrome,

:13:49. > :13:50.was caught on CCTV leaving a bag filled with explosives and ball

:13:51. > :13:56.The device was discovered when the train driver

:13:57. > :14:00.The train was evacuated just two minutes before Smith had set

:14:01. > :14:06.The Metropolitan Police say it's not clear if he was motivated

:14:07. > :14:09.by terrorism as there was not enough evidence that his crime

:14:10. > :14:18.A fourth person has been arrested in connection with the death of

:14:19. > :14:20.businessmen Guy Hedger. The 61-year-old was shot

:14:21. > :14:22.during a burglary at his home near Ringwood in Hampshire

:14:23. > :14:26.in the early hours of Sunday. Officers say three of the suspects,

:14:27. > :14:29.who are all in their 40s, were arrested in the Bournemouth

:14:30. > :14:31.area. Detectives are trying to establish

:14:32. > :14:49.why the home of the former marketing This is Outside Source live

:14:50. > :14:51.from the BBC newsroom. The two contenders for the French

:14:52. > :14:55.presidency are going head-to-head in a live televised debate ahead

:14:56. > :15:08.of Sunday's final round of voting. FBI director James Comey has been

:15:09. > :15:13.testifying before a Senate subcommittee investigating alleged

:15:14. > :15:15.Russian hacking of the US elections. The hearing comes a day

:15:16. > :15:17.after Hillary Clinton spoke about what she believed the reasons

:15:18. > :15:25.for her losing in November were. Let's bring up a little of what she

:15:26. > :15:43.said. Mrs Clinton is referring

:15:44. > :15:46.to the publication of James Comey's letter informing Congress the FBI

:15:47. > :15:48.had reopened an investigation into her use of a private email

:15:49. > :15:51.server just over a week Well, Mr Comey was asked

:15:52. > :16:10.about this at today's hearing This was terrible. It makes me

:16:11. > :16:14.mildly notion is to think we might have had impact on the election but,

:16:15. > :16:18.honestly, it wouldn't change the decision. -- it makes me mildly

:16:19. > :16:22.nauseous. Everyone who would challenge the decision has to tell

:16:23. > :16:26.me what you would do, would you speak or conceal? I could be wrong,

:16:27. > :16:30.but we honestly made a decision between those two choices that even

:16:31. > :16:36.in hindsight, and this has been one of the world's most painful

:16:37. > :16:37.experiences, I would make the decision, I would not conceal but

:16:38. > :16:39.from Congress on October 28. Anthony Zurcher is in

:16:40. > :16:49.Washington for us. What is the reaction been? You have

:16:50. > :16:53.seen Hillary Clinton supporters feeling like you we go again with

:16:54. > :17:00.James Colby defending his investigation, they feel it was

:17:01. > :17:04.extremely influential on the outcome of the election, they blame him,

:17:05. > :17:07.including Hillary Clinton has blamed him, for contributing to her defeat

:17:08. > :17:13.so they will look at the testimony and say it is more of the same, he

:17:14. > :17:16.should not have done anything as far as revealing the investigation right

:17:17. > :17:20.before the election. Meanwhile you heard from Donald Trump last night,

:17:21. > :17:26.tweeting about all this attention on James Colby and the investigation is

:17:27. > :17:29.a Democratic way of explaining their defeat, to try to find some sort of

:17:30. > :17:34.reason for their defeat rather than the fact that Donald Trump ran a

:17:35. > :17:37.good campaign and they did not. You are seeing the same battles we heard

:17:38. > :17:43.shortly after the election in November continuing to play out

:17:44. > :17:48.months and months later. What might happen next, he is in front of this

:17:49. > :17:54.subcommittee, will he look at further allegations of hacking

:17:55. > :17:58.within the election? This is the justice committee in the Senate,

:17:59. > :18:01.they have not primarily been tasked with investigating the hacking and

:18:02. > :18:06.Russian influence, that is an ongoing investigation that the FBI

:18:07. > :18:09.is conducting under James Comey. Where we will hear more about this

:18:10. > :18:14.is in the Senate intelligence committee and the house intelligence

:18:15. > :18:18.committee, they are calling testimony, including Comey, to talk

:18:19. > :18:22.about possible Russian meddling. At some point we will find out what

:18:23. > :18:25.happens with the ongoing FBI investigation, but there is no

:18:26. > :18:30.indication it will wrap up any time soon. It will be hovering over the

:18:31. > :18:38.Trump administration for the rest of the year, I think. You think so?

:18:39. > :18:43.Clinton investigation went on for almost a full year, this one seems

:18:44. > :18:47.even more involved. When James Comey testified a few months ago he said

:18:48. > :18:51.the investigation was just in its early stages, but in fact it had

:18:52. > :18:57.been started in the middle of last year. So if it is still in its early

:18:58. > :19:01.stages of an investigation which started in July 2016, we can

:19:02. > :19:10.expected to go on for some. Thank you.

:19:11. > :19:16.The Russian president has welcomed the Turkish president to his summer

:19:17. > :19:20.home in Sochi. He said reaching a political solution to the conflict

:19:21. > :19:25.was a joint goal of Turkey and Russia. Other topics to be discussed

:19:26. > :19:30.include Russian trade restrictions on tourism, the two leaders have

:19:31. > :19:33.praised bilateral relations. It is important that we have managed to

:19:34. > :19:37.seize the full bilateral trade, there was a small growth of

:19:38. > :19:42.commodities in the first few months of this year, to around 3%.

:19:43. > :19:53.TRANSLATION: In times like this when huge responsibility lies on our

:19:54. > :20:02.shoulders, I am sure that the steps we take it together will change the

:20:03. > :20:05.future for the whole region. One of my colleagues from BBC

:20:06. > :20:10.Turkish joined me to talk about the significance of the meeting between

:20:11. > :20:16.the two. This is the fifth meeting of these two leaders since August

:20:17. > :20:22.2016, ever since Turkey's downing of the Russian jets in November 2015,

:20:23. > :20:26.this is a very strong message of normalisation of bilateral relations

:20:27. > :20:33.between two... We can say two neighbouring countries in the

:20:34. > :20:37.region. The two leaders specifically underlined that relations are back

:20:38. > :20:42.to normal and business as usual and even though they have significant

:20:43. > :20:49.disagreements on Syria they have managed to have a couple of serious

:20:50. > :20:55.deals in this meeting. We saw 22 billion dollars to be invested

:20:56. > :21:02.within the nuclear power plant in Turkey by Russia, the other going to

:21:03. > :21:09.try to revive tourism. Can you tell us a bit about that? Tourism and

:21:10. > :21:13.trade art two significant elements in Turkish/ Russian relations,

:21:14. > :21:15.especially in the southern parts of Turkey, they rely on Russian

:21:16. > :21:24.tourists and Russian agricultural trade. The restrictions imposed by

:21:25. > :21:28.the Putin administration had significant impact on these regions

:21:29. > :21:37.and their economy. We saw that Russia agreed to withdraw all the

:21:38. > :21:43.restrictions except on exports and to take the business back to normal.

:21:44. > :21:49.Thanks to my colleague for that analysis. Let's move on to business.

:21:50. > :21:51.It's been a big day for the ride-sharing

:21:52. > :21:53.app Uber in its quest to develop driverless cars.

:21:54. > :21:56.A court has ruled that Uber has not infringed intellectual property laws

:21:57. > :21:59.after it hired an engineer who used to work for a rival firm.

:22:00. > :22:04.Dave Lee is outside the court where the hearing has been taking place.

:22:05. > :22:11.Dave, good to have you back, what has been happening? The hearing is

:22:12. > :22:15.still going on, they kicked all the journalists out for a private

:22:16. > :22:21.hearing happening right now, but this morning we got a glimpse of

:22:22. > :22:27.precisely what this row is about. On the one hand you have a company

:22:28. > :22:32.which spun out of Google's cell striving car division, accusing

:22:33. > :22:37.Nowell of essentially stealing their technology, taking it away from

:22:38. > :22:41.Google and creating their own self driving division. Uber dispute that,

:22:42. > :22:47.saying it has not happened. Although they do not dispute that a former

:22:48. > :22:51.employee took some files from his former employee, basic glove has not

:22:52. > :22:56.use them for anything so it can't be guilty of stealing trade secrets and

:22:57. > :23:02.infringing on patterns. We are waiting to hear today an injunction

:23:03. > :23:05.will be applied to Uber which could seriously hamper efforts in

:23:06. > :23:09.developing and researching this technology. So it is employees

:23:10. > :23:16.moving from one company to the other? It centres on a man who is a

:23:17. > :23:24.pioneer of self driving technology, he used to work for Google in their

:23:25. > :23:28.self driving division, he left very suddenly in January 2016, set up a

:23:29. > :23:33.new company called auto which was subsequently bought by Uber very

:23:34. > :23:40.quickly, the accusation is that new company was simply a front for Uber

:23:41. > :23:43.taking this employee from Google. Leaver say that is not what

:23:44. > :23:50.happened, they say it is very usual for top talent to go from company to

:23:51. > :23:54.company and there was no wrongdoing, but the former Google company think

:23:55. > :23:56.they haven't Uber banked to rights. Thank you very much.

:23:57. > :23:58.The US central bank has left its benchmark interest

:23:59. > :24:02.Last week, the US economy surprised economists when the annualised rate

:24:03. > :24:05.of growth fell by two thirds compared to the end of last year.

:24:06. > :24:08.In a statement, the Federal Reserve said it views the slowing in growth

:24:09. > :24:12.during the first quarter as likely to be transitory.

:24:13. > :24:22.Let's get more on this with Samira Hussain in New York.

:24:23. > :24:29.Let me bring you up. Tell us a little about what people are saying

:24:30. > :24:32.about this? No one expected the Federal Reserve to raise interest

:24:33. > :24:36.rates this time around, but there are a few things that people wanted

:24:37. > :24:40.to see in the statement that we got from the Fed. They wanted to see the

:24:41. > :24:43.reaction from the Federal Reserve about this really low growth

:24:44. > :24:51.numbers. The US economy in the first few months of this year only grew by

:24:52. > :24:56.0.7%, that is not very good. We see the Fed's interpretation that this

:24:57. > :25:00.is a blip in the system. What the Fed has emphasised as some of the

:25:01. > :25:02.good things happening in the US economy, namely the labour market,

:25:03. > :25:07.that we are seeing strong climate numbers. The second thing that

:25:08. > :25:11.people will look for is if we don't see a rate rise now and we're pretty

:25:12. > :25:16.much expecting two rate rises from now until the end of the year, when

:25:17. > :25:20.will we see the next one? The fact that the Federal Reserve is

:25:21. > :25:25.downplaying the bad growth numbers and playing up the good, solid

:25:26. > :25:29.numbers we are seeing from the labour market, it is possible we

:25:30. > :25:36.could see a rate rise come as early as next June. We have 20 seconds,

:25:37. > :25:39.any response about the Trump effect? I cannot answer that because I have

:25:40. > :25:48.not seen anything like that, but I can't know for sure. Thank you very

:25:49. > :25:53.much. No doubt soon people will begin to hear exactly what it is,

:25:54. > :25:57.about what Mr Trump might begin to respond when we get some of those

:25:58. > :25:59.figures. We will have to keep an eye on his Twitter feed. Another

:26:00. > :26:03.half-hour to come.