:00:00. > :00:00.You are very welcome to outside source and restore the programme
:00:07. > :00:11.with the breaking news that within the past hour Donald Trump has
:00:12. > :00:24.announced the US will withdraw from the Paris climate agreement, he said
:00:25. > :00:29.America can get a better deal. The Paris climate accord is the latest
:00:30. > :00:36.example of Washington entering an agreement which disadvantages the
:00:37. > :00:39.United States. This is to the exclusive benefit of other countries
:00:40. > :00:46.leaving American workers who I love and taxpayers to absorb the cost in
:00:47. > :00:53.terms of lost jobs, lower wages, shuttered factories and vastly
:00:54. > :01:01.diminished economic production. Thus as of today the United States will
:01:02. > :01:08.cease all implementation of the non-binding Paris Accord, and the
:01:09. > :01:16.Draconian financial and economic burdens that the agreement opposes
:01:17. > :01:26.in our country. So we have of course been watching this, Barbara was
:01:27. > :01:36.there, good to have you with us, I suppose that's this was the expected
:01:37. > :01:41.announcement, Watts was -- what was the reaction? And it was a friendly
:01:42. > :01:44.audience, people erupted into applause several times but we were
:01:45. > :01:50.told he had Ben hearing advice from all sides, those who wanted to pull
:01:51. > :01:55.out and those who didn't, he had been weighing up the arguments but
:01:56. > :02:01.we had one line coming from this speech, the accord which was a
:02:02. > :02:06.punishment, he spoke in nationalistic terms of how it was a
:02:07. > :02:16.violation of American sovereignty. How it disadvantages America at the
:02:17. > :02:19.expense of other countries. He even said the lobbyists wanted to join
:02:20. > :02:29.this because they knew that they would gain whilst the US would be
:02:30. > :02:32.weakened economically. He used very strong language I thought. He said
:02:33. > :02:39.he would like to get back into the Accord if he can negotiate better
:02:40. > :02:42.terms or negotiate a better one altogether, that is something the
:02:43. > :02:45.members of the accord would have to agree to yell it seems unlikely
:02:46. > :02:51.given the way they have been rallying around it in the last
:02:52. > :02:54.couple of weeks. Almost a stump speech Barbara about him being
:02:55. > :03:01.elected by people in Pittsburgh and Paris but what about this, if the US
:03:02. > :03:12.leaves, the diplomatic fallout, most of the countries will De Beer
:03:13. > :03:18.pushback on a wider level? They will continue to try to convince the US
:03:19. > :03:26.otherwise and we have seen today and will see it tomorrow as well. The
:03:27. > :03:29.Chinese PM will attend a meeting at the EU in which there will be a
:03:30. > :03:32.joint statement committing themselves to the document and
:03:33. > :03:39.putting together an alliance in making sure that it gets implemented
:03:40. > :03:44.in clean energy projects so they have sent statement saying there
:03:45. > :03:47.were continued US doesn't. If the US doesn't dissolve the nutters in the
:03:48. > :03:51.case you do have the United States which is the largest economy in the
:03:52. > :03:54.world, the second largest emitter of greenhouse gases not being part of
:03:55. > :03:59.this agreement means it will weaken the agreement sure. Having said that
:04:00. > :04:03.there is opposition forming already in the United States at the level of
:04:04. > :04:14.cities and in the level of the states. They have also signalled
:04:15. > :04:19.that they will do that. Stay with us because I want to bring a quote that
:04:20. > :04:23.is coming from the former president, the predecessor who put it in place,
:04:24. > :04:29.Barack Obama, he says I believe the United States should be at the front
:04:30. > :04:33.of the pack. But also he says... He is confident the states it
:04:34. > :04:46.businesses will step up and do even more to lead the way. Also...
:04:47. > :04:50.Interesting, that statement was almost coming out as Donald Trump
:04:51. > :04:55.the Speaker but I suppose the thing is, if it were to be picked, it'll
:04:56. > :05:03.take years as we were from Jean-Claude Junker, 2020 would be
:05:04. > :05:09.the earliest time which would be another election year? Yes it is a
:05:10. > :05:16.long process to withdraw and Mr Chan said that from the beginning, from
:05:17. > :05:19.this moment the United States would not sign underwritten in particular
:05:20. > :05:23.who said that they would stop any contributions to files that have an
:05:24. > :05:33.agreed colour green funds to help developing countries. He betrayed US
:05:34. > :05:37.world in conspiratorially turned saying they were out for Americans
:05:38. > :05:46.and they shouldn't suffer for the people not paying as much. It takes
:05:47. > :05:51.a period of years before it is formalised than another year before
:05:52. > :05:54.it is... There might be another president in the White House who
:05:55. > :05:58.might reverse course again and I think those who are taking active
:05:59. > :06:03.position saying we'll continue with the climate policies, they are
:06:04. > :06:08.hoping to complete the momentum going up until that point spurt the
:06:09. > :06:14.audience the speech was aimed at which was Mr Trump's constituency,
:06:15. > :06:18.the blue-collar working class who believes this climate accord is
:06:19. > :06:24.killing jobs, they will very much applaud this move and the audiences
:06:25. > :06:29.here are Republicans who do feel like it puts America as an economic
:06:30. > :06:34.disadvantage and he will not get any pushback from that quarter. I was
:06:35. > :06:38.wondering the clapping and applause, he was it may be doing that the TV
:06:39. > :06:44.explained it was a friendly audience. Donald Trump has a
:06:45. > :06:51.decision to abandon the Paris Accord, shocked and angered many
:06:52. > :06:57.world leaders, this was Ali hinted, ... The Chinese premier confirming
:06:58. > :07:04.his country will stick with the deal. TRANSLATION: China will
:07:05. > :07:11.continue to implement promises made to move towards the 2030 goal
:07:12. > :07:17.step-by-step, steadfastly. But of course we also hope to do this in
:07:18. > :07:21.with others. That is one voice coming in and this week Angela
:07:22. > :07:26.Merkel said Germany will have to look after itself and it cannot rely
:07:27. > :07:36.on the United States and the UK because of Mr Trump and Brexit. I
:07:37. > :07:40.also want to bring up a tweet. Donald Tusk has written, please
:07:41. > :07:49.don't change and then in brackets, the political climate for the worst.
:07:50. > :07:56.The United States has voiced its concerns. It's important other
:07:57. > :07:59.governments stay the course, this is essential for our collective future
:08:00. > :08:05.and it's important that American society is like all other societies
:08:06. > :08:14.and the business communities that mobilise as a central piece indeed
:08:15. > :08:21.the future... Stephen Clegg Francis has hinted at his desire when it
:08:22. > :08:25.comes to the agreement. He handed Mr Trump a signed copy of his work
:08:26. > :08:28.chronicling the need to fight climate change during the
:08:29. > :08:37.President's visit to the Vatican. Mr Trump says he would read them. So
:08:38. > :08:43.whether he did or not we can't know. The president of the European
:08:44. > :08:51.Commission has said that, take a listen to this. The Americans cannot
:08:52. > :08:55.sleep the climate protection agreement, Mr Trump believes that
:08:56. > :08:59.because he doesn't get close enough to the DOS is to fully understand
:09:00. > :09:05.them. It would take three years after the agreement to leave the
:09:06. > :09:15.agreement so this notion that I am Trump, I am America and America will
:09:16. > :09:18.get out of it won't happen. The battle and the timing of what could
:09:19. > :09:27.or could not happen, let's speak with our European editor in Brussels
:09:28. > :09:30.now, Festival I know we were bringing some voices before the
:09:31. > :09:35.announcement was made and he has gone ahead and pulled out of the
:09:36. > :09:43.Paris Accord so what is this move European leaders? We have heard
:09:44. > :09:48.immediately from the European Commissioner for energy and climate
:09:49. > :09:56.and he has said that the E deeply regretted an ally as he said,
:09:57. > :10:00.turning his back, the European leaders sat with President Trump
:10:01. > :10:05.last week air in Brussels and European leaders met with him at the
:10:06. > :10:12.G7 in Italy and they urged him not to leave the Paris Accord. It's
:10:13. > :10:21.makes good sense for the United States to invest in renewable
:10:22. > :10:26.energy, you can make America a great and they were hoping he would stay
:10:27. > :10:33.in the Paris Accord, but of course he hasn't. Europe will regret that
:10:34. > :10:37.that there will be a tensing of relations between these two allies,
:10:38. > :10:44.the European Union and the United States. You're pointing at a tweet
:10:45. > :10:49.earlier on from the European Council Presidents Donald Tusk uses police
:10:50. > :10:56.make the climate any worse. And those meetings, as we heard
:10:57. > :11:03.President Trump speaking this afternoon, he made a jive to limit
:11:04. > :11:11.jive at European partners when saying the powers who are asking him
:11:12. > :11:14.to stay, were the ones who weren't pulling their weight in terms of
:11:15. > :11:18.trade and military spending and were being unfair to its United States.
:11:19. > :11:25.The European union will feel that and leaders meet in Brussels and
:11:26. > :11:32.will issue a joint statement saying they will continue with the Accord
:11:33. > :11:39.and will continue to fight to stop global warming. We should not rush
:11:40. > :11:43.just to say there is a break between the US and the EU because there are
:11:44. > :11:49.still a lot more in common that the EU has in common with China. This is
:11:50. > :11:59.coming in such an interesting time, Britain and the E, can they work
:12:00. > :12:11.together post Brexit in the same way, can China may be become the
:12:12. > :12:15.leaders now? It's ironic if you see China accepted the court at the
:12:16. > :12:23.time, President Obama was a real leading figure, they really helped
:12:24. > :12:28.to get the US on board, the US is the second biggest carbon emitter in
:12:29. > :12:33.the world, China is number one so the fact those two power signed up
:12:34. > :12:38.to the Accord was a big coup at the time. They are happy when they can
:12:39. > :12:42.agree on something at the moment they can agree on climate change,
:12:43. > :12:46.the leadership in China knows it is in its interest, the people are
:12:47. > :12:51.getting angry and it has seen the business advantages investing in
:12:52. > :12:56.renewable energy. So with the European Union they will fight on
:12:57. > :13:02.climate change and they will fight for free trade as well, both points
:13:03. > :13:05.in which there are now points of tension between the European Union
:13:06. > :13:10.and the United States but again as I say, we really should not see all of
:13:11. > :13:12.these in black and white terms, this does not mean the relationship
:13:13. > :13:16.between the European Union and the United States is broken and then
:13:17. > :13:23.have China as a best buddy, these are all shades of grey rather than
:13:24. > :13:29.black and white. Thank you. Stay with us, an outside source still to
:13:30. > :13:32.come. We will speak to the Seychelles ambassador on the
:13:33. > :14:49.decision of Donald Trump to pull the US out of the Paris climate accord.
:14:50. > :14:56.This is outside source live. Our top story. Donald Trump has announced
:14:57. > :15:01.the United States will pull out of the Paris climate agreements, he
:15:02. > :15:04.says it is the latest example of Washington tenting agreement that
:15:05. > :15:08.benefited others and he would be re-entering the Accord on terms
:15:09. > :15:14.fairer to the United States. Let's look at the stories in the language
:15:15. > :15:20.services are looking at. The gunman have stormed a hotel in Manila and
:15:21. > :15:27.witnesses have said the gunmen have been wearing masks and shooting at
:15:28. > :15:34.guests close to Manila airport. The army said police were controlled,
:15:35. > :15:41.the EIS said their militants caused the attack was so far no casualty
:15:42. > :15:47.numbers -- Isis. Pakistan has denied allegations that it was involved in
:15:48. > :15:48.the car bomb in Kaboul is baseless. The explosion killed around 90
:15:49. > :16:01.people and injured 350 others. Let's return to the story and get
:16:02. > :16:05.more reaction now, further afield and joining me from New York is the
:16:06. > :16:10.Seychelles ambassador to the United Nations, thank you very much for
:16:11. > :16:14.coming on ambassador, do you want to describe your reaction to this and
:16:15. > :16:20.putting it into the context of the Seychelles? Thank you for having me.
:16:21. > :16:25.As hopefully everybody knows by now, small islands, the small island
:16:26. > :16:28.developing states like ours are the least responsible for climate change
:16:29. > :16:33.but we are the ones who suffer the most from it. Some of our small
:16:34. > :16:37.islands in the Pacific and Indian Ocean could actually disappear off
:16:38. > :16:42.the face of the earth. We are very dismayed. We would have liked the US
:16:43. > :16:45.to stay in the Paris Agreement, we are dismayed but from our
:16:46. > :16:50.perspective, especially from the involvement in the climate
:16:51. > :16:54.negotiations it is not as catastrophic as other people seem to
:16:55. > :17:05.be thinking it to because the world has been anticipating this. Whilst
:17:06. > :17:08.we have all wanted the US to stay in the Paris Agreement, we have been
:17:09. > :17:16.anticipating this and we have seen moves now for climate leadership to
:17:17. > :17:23.move from China and the US to what looks like a coalition between the
:17:24. > :17:28.European Union and Asia. For example Chancellor Merkel this week has
:17:29. > :17:31.hosted the Prime Minister of India and is now hosting the Prime
:17:32. > :17:36.Minister of China and China as we know is currently the biggest
:17:37. > :17:42.emitter. There will be a statement tomorrow but ambassador put it in
:17:43. > :17:45.very stark words for our viewers, if nothing more is done on climate
:17:46. > :17:54.change, what would happen to your country? Well, those small islands
:17:55. > :17:58.that do not disappear physically, that is they slipped underwater,
:17:59. > :18:01.will become economically unviable and will become failed states
:18:02. > :18:06.because even the islands which will stay above water, the economy is
:18:07. > :18:10.based mainly on tourism, marine -based tourism and fisheries and we
:18:11. > :18:13.have been learning from scientists what climate change and global
:18:14. > :18:21.warming will do to the oceans, it would story fisheries and they will
:18:22. > :18:25.move to cold waters. It will erode ages, we are seeing that in the
:18:26. > :18:29.Seychelles and our number one industry is tourism. The coral
:18:30. > :18:34.reefs, all of this is severely affected. Which means all of us who
:18:35. > :18:41.are remaining in the Paris Agreement and that of course is 194 out of 195
:18:42. > :18:45.there have to step up our game and see amongst ourselves how can we
:18:46. > :18:49.make up for the gap, at least in the short term because according to the
:18:50. > :18:54.latest science, the US's absence will not have an effect in the short
:18:55. > :19:02.term if China and India continue to surpass their pledges which latest
:19:03. > :19:07.indications do show. Now it might be that he renegotiate, this is what is
:19:08. > :19:13.asking for and that he goes ahead with a better deal, do you hold out
:19:14. > :19:20.much hope for that happening? Well amongst us there is still a jury
:19:21. > :19:24.out. We are not sure what he means by renegotiating. We're not sure
:19:25. > :19:29.what he will ask for and we're not sure, depending on what he asks for
:19:30. > :19:34.what effect might have on other countries in the Paris Agreement.
:19:35. > :19:38.One of the fears has been that if the US leaves, will others leave but
:19:39. > :19:42.we do not see indications of that yet. The positive spirit that came
:19:43. > :19:47.out of Paris seems to be holding and in fact it might have had a counter
:19:48. > :19:51.effect in the US withdrawal in that it's made us in the Paris Agreement
:19:52. > :19:56.more determined to make this work but should they stay take four years
:19:57. > :20:03.for them to withdraw and then they start making demands others cannot
:20:04. > :20:09.abide by. I understand ambassador. Thank you. Sticklers for Ross Atkins
:20:10. > :20:23.from Cornwall. Yesterday we were talking about
:20:24. > :20:26.clusters of thunderstorms on the coast of Mexico developing into
:20:27. > :20:29.something sinister, that has happened and the swell of cloud, a
:20:30. > :20:35.tropical depression is a weakened foam of a hurricane. The rain and
:20:36. > :20:38.wind not as intense but the rain will be heavy enough and the wind is
:20:39. > :20:44.strong enough to cause problems in eastern Mexico. Especially in some
:20:45. > :20:48.of these coastal districts, all of the moisture feeding in and we could
:20:49. > :20:51.see lots of heavy rain, flash flooding and mudslides. Warm air is
:20:52. > :20:54.pumping into southern parts of the US feeding the storm clouds from
:20:55. > :20:58.Texas all the way through to northern Florida or the way through
:20:59. > :21:01.Friday and Saturday and we have seen storms through to the north and in
:21:02. > :21:05.the past 24 hours this is the scene in Toronto through Wednesday night.
:21:06. > :21:13.Spectacular thunderstorm here and those are now easing away. There are
:21:14. > :21:16.storm clout easing winners in Bangladesh, we saw a tropical
:21:17. > :21:21.cyclone hit at the start of the week and still some big storm clouds
:21:22. > :21:24.around, these are being fed by the southerly winds but it is a time of
:21:25. > :21:28.year when we see the south-west monsoon bringing welcoming rains too
:21:29. > :21:32.many part of the country. It's vital for crop growth and the heaviest of
:21:33. > :21:36.the rains tend to be towards the south-west that we will see storm is
:21:37. > :21:43.getting postman to Mumbai at times, not near Delhi, the pre-monsoon heat
:21:44. > :21:47.is building. Into the 40s by Sunday afternoon. In contrast to these
:21:48. > :21:52.scenes in Bolivia, they are experiencing the coldest weather in
:21:53. > :21:57.about half a century. Temperatures all year long around 17-18, not much
:21:58. > :22:01.variation, in the next few days the night-time temperatures have been
:22:02. > :22:06.creeping up after frost. Yesterday you would have seen these pictures
:22:07. > :22:08.from Germany on Tuesday, severe standard storms rattling across
:22:09. > :22:13.Berlin and we have seen more and more to come. The storms across
:22:14. > :22:17.alpine regions take on the Thursday morning and went to Friday there
:22:18. > :22:20.will be back again. Some of these would be torrential in places and we
:22:21. > :22:23.will see a few more across the Balkans over the next few days. It
:22:24. > :22:27.is being caused by the build-up of heat over the past few days,
:22:28. > :22:31.temperatures are widely high 20s or 30s across central and western new
:22:32. > :22:35.Europe, much cooler to the north-west. North-east even. As we
:22:36. > :22:45.go into Saturday the temperature drops and to get into fresh air
:22:46. > :22:48.units having to an active weather system coming through. Northern
:22:49. > :22:50.parts of Spain, France and into Germany and in the alpine regions,
:22:51. > :22:53.these areas as we go through Friday and Saturday, we could see some
:22:54. > :22:57.physically nasty storms, with it we will see Flash running and in terms
:22:58. > :23:02.of 50 millimetres of rain in terms of a day, large hail and damaging
:23:03. > :23:04.winds. In the UK the forecast for the week ahead is coming up the next
:23:05. > :24:15.30 minutes. Hello, I'm Ros Atkins,
:24:16. > :24:17.this is Outside Source. With just seven days to go
:24:18. > :24:20.until the UK general election, we're broadcasting live
:24:21. > :24:26.from Cornwall. We must turn to Washington first,
:24:27. > :24:30.President Trump has confirmed that the US will be withdrawing from the
:24:31. > :24:37.Paris Agreement, on combatting climate change.
:24:38. > :24:44.As of today, the United States will cease all implement they of the
:24:45. > :24:47.non-binding Paris accord, and the Draconian financial and economic
:24:48. > :24:56.burden, the agreement imposes on our country.
:24:57. > :25:00.Brexit remains the central issue for Theresa May.
:25:01. > :25:03.I am confident that we can fulfill the promise of Brexit
:25:04. > :25:05.together and build a Britain that is stronger, fairer and even
:25:06. > :25:13.Jeremy Corbyn is a few hundred miles east of here in Essex,
:25:14. > :25:16.where he has warned that Theresa May's approach to Brexit
:25:17. > :25:19.Theresa May says no deal is better than a bad deal.
:25:20. > :25:22.Let's be clear - no deal is in fact a bad deal.
:25:23. > :25:33.Across this half hour if you have questions about the general election
:25:34. > :25:38.and Brexit and how the two things fit together we will speak to some
:25:39. > :25:43.of the biggest hitters in Cornish politics, send your points our way.
:25:44. > :26:03.The same contact details apply. BBC OS is the hashtag.
:26:04. > :26:11.To work Outside Source. Welcome to Cornwall. Around this
:26:12. > :26:14.time, next week, the polls will be almost closed, in the UK general
:26:15. > :26:19.election an of course we don't know what the outcome will be but we can
:26:20. > :26:22.be certain which ever Government emerges it its primary task will be
:26:23. > :26:27.negotiating Brexit. We will get into that in a moment.
:26:28. > :26:38.Let me tell you more about where I am.
:26:39. > :26:44.The County benefits from the tourism industry. It was teeming with
:26:45. > :26:47.tourists earlierment while the industry is successful here,
:26:48. > :26:54.Cornwall is one of the poorest areas not just in the UK but in western
:26:55. > :26:58.Europe, it also supported Brexit, and that is posed a conundrum for
:26:59. > :27:03.the politicians down here, because as you will know politicians from
:27:04. > :27:07.across the political spectrum campaigned for remain and campaigned
:27:08. > :27:12.to leave and we are here to understand how Brexit is factoring
:27:13. > :27:15.into the calculations being made by Cornish boaters because let us make
:27:16. > :27:19.no bones about it this election is happening because of Brexit. Theresa
:27:20. > :27:23.May our Prime Minister says she wants a stronger hand when entering
:27:24. > :27:27.the Brexit negotiations and when you look at the poll, when she called
:27:28. > :27:31.the election, lots of people could understand why she went for it. She
:27:32. > :27:35.had leads of up to 20%, but the opposition leader, Jeremy Corbyn,
:27:36. > :27:40.has had by all accounts a good campaign and if you look at the
:27:41. > :27:45.BBC's latest poll of polls, and the Tories are in blue, the Labour Party
:27:46. > :27:50.in red, you will see those polls are starting to narrow.
:27:51. > :27:52.Now, last night, the BBC hosted a leaders debate, there were seven
:27:53. > :27:57.people taking part. Jeremy Corbyn was one of them. Theresa May wasn't.
:27:58. > :28:03.Instead, is she asked one of her ministers Amber Rudd to attend, this
:28:04. > :28:06.is how the debate went. There is no extra payment you don't want to add
:28:07. > :28:10.to, no tax you don't want to rise, but the fact is we have to
:28:11. > :28:14.concentrate our resource on the people who need it most, and we have
:28:15. > :28:19.to stop thinking as you do, that there is a magic money tree. I would
:28:20. > :28:22.say this since am before rubbed seems so confident this is a country
:28:23. > :28:25.at ease with itself, have you been to a food bank, have you seen people
:28:26. > :28:29.sleeping round the stations? Have you seen...
:28:30. > :28:34.APPLAUSE Of course... Have you seen the
:28:35. > :28:39.level, have you seen the level of poverty that that exists because of
:28:40. > :28:43.your Government, conscious decisions on benefits. Have been to food
:28:44. > :28:47.banks. For amber to say this is is a Government that cares for the
:28:48. > :28:53.vulnerable is insulting to the kind of people I see in my constituency
:28:54. > :28:56.southernry. The fact is we need to remain in the single market or we
:28:57. > :28:59.will not be able to afford the National Health Service, social care
:29:00. > :29:03.or any of the support we are talking about. If Jeremy cared about having
:29:04. > :29:09.enough money to spend on those who need it the most, to raise living
:29:10. > :29:11.standards he would not have trooped through the lobbies with the
:29:12. > :29:19.Conservatives and Ukip to make Britain poorer.
:29:20. > :29:23.Well we have loss Ros for a couple of my opinion, we are going to try
:29:24. > :29:25.to reconnect the line to Cornwall. We did ask Tom Bateman to give us an
:29:26. > :29:38.update. It has been a day today where the
:29:39. > :29:41.issue of Brexit has become front and centre once again of this election
:29:42. > :29:46.campaign here in the UK, and much of it really has been about tone, we
:29:47. > :29:50.had the Prime Minister Theresa May giving a big speech on all this, a
:29:51. > :29:54.set piece speech, in which she tried to suggest that there was a real
:29:55. > :30:02.sense of optimism in her view about what Britain can achieve through
:30:03. > :30:07.that Brexit process. So, we apologise for losing the pictures on
:30:08. > :30:09.that but what about this question about why Cornwall, why Ros is
:30:10. > :30:11.there. This is how they voted in 2010 -
:30:12. > :30:14.three seats to the Conservative Party and three to the Liberal
:30:15. > :30:16.Democrats. Those are the two parties
:30:17. > :30:18.that formed a coalition Here's the 2015 result -
:30:19. > :30:25.all Conservative. And in the EU referendum last year -
:30:26. > :30:31.56% voted to leave, and 43 to stay. But there are some serious economic
:30:32. > :30:37.and the social issues in the county. To find out what voters
:30:38. > :30:41.here cared about the most, Ros went along to BBC Radio
:30:42. > :30:55.Cornwall's phone-in programme. So welcome to BBC Radio Cornwall.
:30:56. > :31:00.This is lawyer press Reed I am joined by Ross Atkins to help you
:31:01. > :31:06.out. I am hoping to understand the reasons people voted for or against
:31:07. > :31:09.Brexit, now in form how they are going to vote in the general
:31:10. > :31:15.election. I have no faith in the Labour Party. I really don't. And
:31:16. > :31:21.because they undermine my vote in Brexit, because they make me feel
:31:22. > :31:26.like what I have to say and why I voted the way I voted, I obviously
:31:27. > :31:32.had lost my mind. Gill. Good afternoon. For many years I was a
:31:33. > :31:37.member of Ukip. I really feel Ukip have done their job now and Nigel
:31:38. > :31:44.Farage has resigned. Sue is in Liskeard, afternoon to you. How are
:31:45. > :31:48.you? You are talking to Ros. This will be the first time in over 40
:31:49. > :31:56.years I voted Conservative. I think Mrs May is the one who is going to
:31:57. > :32:00.do it for us. Lorraine. What they have done to our fishermen is
:32:01. > :32:05.disgraceful. We got no quota for certain fish and we are looking at
:32:06. > :32:10.Spanish vessels fishing for our fish. I have been a Tory supporter
:32:11. > :32:14.all my life, and now I have turned completely against them. I don't
:32:15. > :32:18.trust them at all. I think we were all misled, both sides, we all
:32:19. > :32:22.remember the bus with the millions of pounds that was going to go to
:32:23. > :32:27.the NHS. Where are those millions? Not there are they. I will vote for
:32:28. > :32:30.Theresa May and the Conservatives, because whenever this country has
:32:31. > :32:35.had its back against the wall, whether it was the last war, it has
:32:36. > :32:40.been a Conservative, last time it was Churchill. Thank you very much
:32:41. > :32:48.for all our listener, we only scratched the surface. Shall we do
:32:49. > :32:56.it again? We will do it again. Lawrence Reed, BBC Cornwall.
:32:57. > :33:01.That was Ros and one of the local BBC station in Cornwall.
:33:02. > :33:03.Fishery's a big part of the Cornish economy,
:33:04. > :33:05.and it's fair to say the industry got behind Brexit strongly.
:33:06. > :33:08.But it's just one of the many British industries the Government
:33:09. > :33:12.is going to have to look out for in the negotiations with Europe.
:33:13. > :33:23.% of the population took 5% of the UK investment, and from 2000, 2014,
:33:24. > :33:29.?888 million from the EU went to Cornwall and also the Isles of
:33:30. > :33:36.Scilly which are nearby. Then, from 2014, to 2020, it was 480 million
:33:37. > :33:40.but when it came to getting Government funding they were given
:33:41. > :33:46.just 18 million in local economy investment funding. Ros has been
:33:47. > :33:47.talking to Ruth Huxley, a local business leader about what leaving
:33:48. > :33:57.the EU could mean for Cornwall. For the business of the food and
:33:58. > :34:01.drink sector, the concern with manufacturing is Cornwall 's largest
:34:02. > :34:06.manufacturing industry food and drink is the uncertainty around the
:34:07. > :34:10.economy and the economic impact of things like migrant Labour and
:34:11. > :34:13.exchange rates. Brexit appears to be here to stay, it is Brexit having
:34:14. > :34:16.more of an impact on the businesses I work with, than the outcome of
:34:17. > :34:21.this election. What about the Cornish brand? When I compare when I
:34:22. > :34:27.was growing up here, not that many things put Cornwall or Cornish in
:34:28. > :34:34.their name, now there is a pro liveration. Does Brexit offer a
:34:35. > :34:37.challenge to that? Challenge or opportunity, opportunity perhaps if
:34:38. > :34:41.it affects the exchange rates to the extent more people come to Cornwall
:34:42. > :34:47.and are able to enjoy the products, more challenges to people exporting,
:34:48. > :34:52.imports ingredients, who knows. Tell me quickly about the pasty, is it
:34:53. > :34:56.OK, is it protected? You are happy with its long-term future? The pasty
:34:57. > :35:02.is protected by European protective food name. It is a European scheme
:35:03. > :35:05.that is recognised widely and by third country, we are reassured that
:35:06. > :35:09.will continue, but it is not guaranteed yet so the Cornish pasty
:35:10. > :35:15.association I work with closely is very keen to move things along, it
:35:16. > :35:19.is working, business as usual as far as they are concerned, but, that,
:35:20. > :35:24.those assurances and those defintives can't come soon enough.
:35:25. > :35:28.Speaking of pasty, let me grab this I spotted earlier, you see this,
:35:29. > :35:34.this is a pasty flavoured bag of crisps. I mean, I am proud and
:35:35. > :35:39.Cornish but this feels possibly a step too far. I don't think so at
:35:40. > :35:43.all. Many of our customers would disagree, it is by far our best
:35:44. > :35:47.selling flavour of crisps. Have you tried them? Yes They are made with
:35:48. > :35:53.real beef and everything you would expect to be in a pasty. I didn't
:35:54. > :35:57.get a chance to try those crisps but if any of you watching in Cornwall
:35:58. > :36:02.let me know, I was not convinced about them but there we go. In a
:36:03. > :36:05.minute we will speak to three of the biggest names in Cornish politics
:36:06. > :36:09.about Brexit and how it fits into whether their parties are picking up
:36:10. > :36:13.support or not. Send us some questions for those three guests who
:36:14. > :36:25.will speak to in a moment on Outside Source.
:36:26. > :36:29.Now as you may well no fisheries is a big part of the Cornish economy.
:36:30. > :36:34.And it is fair to say the fisheries industry here in Cornwall was very
:36:35. > :36:37.much for Brexit, you don't have to look hard for unhappy fishermen when
:36:38. > :36:45.it comes to the EUment fisheries is one issue of many that will have to
:36:46. > :36:52.fit into new deals being cut between the yuck and ewe. I have been -- UK
:36:53. > :36:54.and EU. I have been talking to George Eustace, he is a minister
:36:55. > :36:58.with responsibility for fisheries are. There are two separate elements
:36:59. > :37:02.to the negotiation, one is how we manage fisheries, and of course, in
:37:03. > :37:06.future there still annual negotiations round how we share
:37:07. > :37:10.quotas, we are not going to pull up the drawbridge and stop talking to
:37:11. > :37:14.other countries, there won't be an ex clue zone, there will be annual
:37:15. > :37:18.negotiations but when it comes to trade, there is a separate
:37:19. > :37:21.negotiation and we are be buying from Europe, things like cars and
:37:22. > :37:26.maybe champagne from France, and fruit and veg, they want to sell us
:37:27. > :37:33.those products and in return we will expect them to buy our fishery
:37:34. > :37:36.products tariff free. Quotas are about conserving fish, aren't they,
:37:37. > :37:39.so this expectation I have heard from some Cornish people once we are
:37:40. > :37:44.out we will be able to go and get all the fish we can and make as much
:37:45. > :37:47.money, may not materialise? No, look, I was very clear during the
:37:48. > :37:51.referendum campaign, and I campaigned to leave but very clear
:37:52. > :37:55.we are still going to fish sustainably in line with science and
:37:56. > :37:59.there will be a quota system, you have to fish within sustainable
:38:00. > :38:04.limits if you want to protect stock, so those things won't change, what
:38:05. > :38:09.will change is we will be able to negotiate a fairer share of quotas,
:38:10. > :38:13.here in the West Country, France has round five times as much haddock
:38:14. > :38:17.quota and five times as much cod quota as Cornish firer men, that is
:38:18. > :38:21.not fair and doesn't reflect where the stock reseeds. One last
:38:22. > :38:27.question, you have been a strong proponent of Brexit for a long time.
:38:28. > :38:31.I heard caller after caller giving me huge expectation of what Brexit
:38:32. > :38:33.is going to deliver, not just to do with fisheries but Britain's
:38:34. > :38:38.standing in the world, to do with the Cornish economy, to do with the
:38:39. > :38:43.NHS, the list went on and on, are you worried you have raised
:38:44. > :38:48.expectations to unrealistic levels? No, not all all. I have been a
:38:49. > :38:52.minister in Defra to four years and I have never known there be such a
:38:53. > :39:03.buzz and excitement about the potential.
:39:04. > :39:06.Welcome back to Outside Source. We are live on the south coast of
:39:07. > :39:10.Cornwall in the far south-west of England, talking about Brexit and
:39:11. > :39:17.how it plays into the UK election which is one week away. Let me
:39:18. > :39:19.introduce you to three big names of Cornish politics, Sarah Newton,
:39:20. > :39:25.Andrew George was an MP for 18 years and he is trying to win his seat
:39:26. > :39:30.back and you were the last Labour MP in Cornwall. . We are going to
:39:31. > :39:34.change that. Do you think so I think we do. Really? The local election
:39:35. > :39:40.suggested that there are few issues for the Labour Party. Yes, we really
:39:41. > :39:45.increased or majority, where we were standing, and there are parts of
:39:46. > :39:48.Cornwall that have a long tradition of Labour representation. There were
:39:49. > :39:51.boundary changes and that hurt the Labour Party and people now are
:39:52. > :39:57.coming back, really big, very excited about next Thursday. We will
:39:58. > :40:01.see how it goes. Undoubtedly this is a complicated election because
:40:02. > :40:06.Brexit didn't follow party linesful how is it playing into your effort
:40:07. > :40:09.for support. Most people, even though they wanted to remain, they
:40:10. > :40:14.wanted to remain in the European Union just want to get on with it.
:40:15. > :40:18.They want a strong Prime Minister, a positive team, to actually get the
:40:19. > :40:22.best possible deal they can, for Britain and so we are seeing on the
:40:23. > :40:25.doorsteps people from all party, switching, because they just know
:40:26. > :40:30.than my colleagues and I with Theresa May will be able to deliver
:40:31. > :40:36.the best outcome, in Brexit for gaul. Yours is different tack
:40:37. > :40:41.Andrew. Not really, I mean, the fact is that as Sarah rightly say,
:40:42. > :40:49.certainly, many of those who voted Remain and I obviously campaigned to
:40:50. > :40:54.remain, have now decided the majority they are now reLee veries,
:40:55. > :41:00.I suppose and they accept that democracy, we must move on, we now
:41:01. > :41:04.need to make sure that Brexit doesn't harm places like Cornwall.
:41:05. > :41:08.Cornwall is a very high risk of being one of the big losers from
:41:09. > :41:14.Brexit. What we need to do is make sure they are, local people, whether
:41:15. > :41:19.they be fishermen, many of whom voted for Remain, in spite of what
:41:20. > :41:23.your report says. Most didn't. A lot of the leader, those who lead the
:41:24. > :41:27.industry, actually, perhaps you didn't speak to him, because at the
:41:28. > :41:33.public meetings I called and the Tory MP wouldn't come to, they, they
:41:34. > :41:37.were very clearly actually saying that we need to be pragmatic about
:41:38. > :41:40.this issue and the last time the Conservatives were in, they said
:41:41. > :41:47.that the fishing industry was expendable. Let us bring you in.
:41:48. > :41:52.Cornwall is a very disparate, we are not a homogenous fishing community,
:41:53. > :41:55.we have two universities, there is a different issue round Brexit. I it
:41:56. > :42:01.is not just about farming and fish, we are a diverse economy and for the
:42:02. > :42:06.universities, for renewable energies and new industries which have had
:42:07. > :42:11.huge sums of European money which was a Labour Government success, it
:42:12. > :42:16.is a tragedy now. The poorest part of the UK is going to be struggling
:42:17. > :42:19.again. Can I say Cornwall has particular aspects to it, and that
:42:20. > :42:24.is why I am so pleased we have managed to get a commitment in our
:42:25. > :42:28.manifesto, so that all of the funding that Cornwall would have
:42:29. > :42:40.got, had we remained in the European Union. Union. THEY ALL TALK AT ONCE.
:42:41. > :42:45.You are talking about the regional fund. The European programme, the
:42:46. > :42:51.money that would have got till 2020 is committed, a lot of it has been
:42:52. > :42:59.spent. It is already going... ?2 billion. To the prosperity fund so
:43:00. > :43:05.it will go forward. You might as well put that on the side of a red
:43:06. > :43:09.bus. Let me ask you quickly before we wrap up here, are you worried
:43:10. > :43:14.that there are expectations here, in Cornwall, that simply cannot be met,
:43:15. > :43:18.that all of you are promising, fundamental shift to this county
:43:19. > :43:25.which has been struggling for many decade, are you raising peck egg pen
:43:26. > :43:31.tastings? I think I am probably dampening them, I am saying I don't
:43:32. > :43:35.feel there is a commitment from the Conservative Government, previously
:43:36. > :43:40.to give the money. I am with Candy on that, I think tra Theresa May is
:43:41. > :43:44.playing megaphone diplomacy from 10 Downing Street, she is ruining our
:43:45. > :43:49.chances of coming out from Europe in a way that we will end up with a
:43:50. > :43:55.decent deal and it is going to seriously harm the Cornish economy.
:43:56. > :44:01.We have strong voices here that is getting records levels of investment
:44:02. > :44:05.into Cornwall. If we are reelected we will build a positive strong
:44:06. > :44:10.relationship. We will be let down. If we have six Tory MPs it will be a
:44:11. > :44:15.disaster. All three of you, thank you, I will leave do you talk about
:44:16. > :44:18.it among yourself, you get a taste of how passionate Cornish politics
:44:19. > :44:21.can get. Lots of people have been raising the fact that the Cornish
:44:22. > :44:25.get a disproportionate amount of money from the European Union.
:44:26. > :44:30.Cornwall makes up 1% of the UK population and gets 5% of the EU
:44:31. > :44:34.investment into the UK. But, as we know it is supported Brexit. But
:44:35. > :44:39.lots of people, you can find, will say don't worry, this can work all
:44:40. > :44:42.the same. Here is one venture capitalist I spoke to earlier who
:44:43. > :44:49.said there is a different way. What we would like to see, most
:44:50. > :44:53.definitely, is a move away from a European granted economy, one that
:44:54. > :44:57.is full of advisory scheme, and things like that and much more
:44:58. > :45:02.private sector led economy. That is what we will be looking for. Private
:45:03. > :45:05.sector can't replace the level of financial support that has come from
:45:06. > :45:09.Europe, though, can it? That is a very good question. I would argue
:45:10. > :45:13.and I have been vocal on this, much of the spending from European has
:45:14. > :45:18.been ineffectual, so we would be be great fans of the infrastructure
:45:19. > :45:21.spending, broadband and the roads and the communications, but we have
:45:22. > :45:25.pushed for a long time and this is beginning to happening for the
:45:26. > :45:30.capital to be spent in a much more productive way, right now, and I can
:45:31. > :45:36.give you the stats but the last, the last tranche of money that came out,
:45:37. > :45:41.the majority has gone to Cornwall Council or public sector, 85 million
:45:42. > :45:44.has gone on to free advisory programmes in the County I would
:45:45. > :45:50.question how effective these are going to be. Well, next, it is dark
:45:51. > :45:55.I can see the moon up here, the sun has left us here on the south coast
:45:56. > :45:59.of Cornwall, let us talk about young voter, because they could be crucial
:46:00. > :46:04.to the outcome of next week's UK election, here is an interesting
:46:05. > :46:10.tweet we saw from the independent saying young voter have registered
:46:11. > :46:14.to vote in force. Theresa May has made a dire mistake underestimating
:46:15. > :46:19.them. Certainly how they figure in this election depends on who you
:46:20. > :46:24.ask. This is a YouGov poll. It shows us the voting intention of
:46:25. > :46:28.18-24-year-olds, versus the voting intentions of people over 65 or over
:46:29. > :46:31.and with the Conservatives in blue, and the Labour in red, you can see
:46:32. > :46:38.as well as I can, the differences there, but here is an interesting
:46:39. > :46:46.bit of analysis, this is from Matt from FT says polls that show narrow
:46:47. > :46:50.Conservative leads are those that base on the likelihood of casting a
:46:51. > :46:54.ballot. This is one lot of polling basing on how people tend to behave
:46:55. > :46:58.and one lot on how they say they are going to behave. You can believe who
:46:59. > :47:03.you like. Let us talk about young voters with, well, three young
:47:04. > :47:09.voters. Abbey, Daniel here, good to see you all. Thank you for being
:47:10. > :47:14.with us. Talk to me about Brexit, is it a big factor in your voting
:47:15. > :47:18.intentions Yes: I think it changed a lot especially like Labour, they
:47:19. > :47:21.were vote to Remain and I think obviously we are going to stay with
:47:22. > :47:25.what the majority are said now, but I think what Labour are doing, I
:47:26. > :47:31.think supporting it is what they should be doing. Dan? I would say
:47:32. > :47:35.that Brexit is a massive thing for young voter, we know we are going to
:47:36. > :47:40.leave the European Union, whether we like it or not, and it is going to
:47:41. > :47:44.have to be the deof who you want at the table. For me it is about our
:47:45. > :47:49.futures and I don't trust Jeremy Corbyn to do it. Why not Jeremy
:47:50. > :47:56.Corbyn has not shown great leadership. Theresa May has managed
:47:57. > :47:59.to get 35 opt outs, of previously new treaties including the European
:48:00. > :48:05.Arrest Warrant. So I will put my future behind her and not Jeremy
:48:06. > :48:11.Corbyn. For me h as you know, I am thinking of voting Liberal Democrat,
:48:12. > :48:21.I do feel that my party's, well, the party I I would like to vote for,
:48:22. > :48:25.does have a certain necessity to take the opposite vote, but... There
:48:26. > :48:30.is the risk you vote Liberal Democrat and you are trying to
:48:31. > :48:36.reverse the will of the people. And I think that is true, I think the
:48:37. > :48:40.thing... You are trying to reverse the role of the people? No, there is
:48:41. > :48:45.a danger people will think that, I think especially in Cornwall, think
:48:46. > :48:50.that given that there is a certain danger with that, especially since
:48:51. > :48:56.it is such a traditionally a liberal heartland. Abbey, talk to me about
:48:57. > :49:00.your leader, there is lots of suggestion to show his policies are
:49:01. > :49:06.more popular than he is S I think he has done a good job. I support him
:49:07. > :49:09.especially. I think he is a great leader, he is passionate. Are you
:49:10. > :49:14.and your mates going to vote? This is what the pollsters are say, if
:49:15. > :49:19.they do it could change the outcome. It is interesting you say that, in
:49:20. > :49:24.my house we have big Labour signs out. My bedroom is at the back. I am
:49:25. > :49:29.the only person in my choice that has bothered to register to vote. Do
:49:30. > :49:33.you have discussions about that? Completely and they are just so
:49:34. > :49:36.fixated, they have no economic experience and they don't have a
:49:37. > :49:41.mortgage, they is why they are voting Labour, they have no idea.
:49:42. > :49:49.All three of you thank you for finishing our coverage in Cornwall.
:49:50. > :49:56.To those of you watching, if you want to learn more about Donald
:49:57. > :50:01.Trump or the election, we will head to the website. We will be back with
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