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:00:08. > :00:10.Hello, I'm Ros Atkins, this is Outside Source.

:00:11. > :00:14.We start at the Finsbury Park Mosque in North London where a man drove

:00:15. > :00:22.The van hit a crowd who had gathered to help an elderly man who had

:00:23. > :00:28.It's not clear if his death was the result of the attack.

:00:29. > :00:34.A man has been arrested for terror offences.

:00:35. > :00:40.The BBC understands he is 47-year-old Darren Osborne.

:00:41. > :00:48.This is what the Prime Minister said. It is a reminder that

:00:49. > :00:51.terrorism, extremism and hatred take many forms. Our determination to

:00:52. > :00:54.tackle them must be the same whoever is responsible.

:00:55. > :00:57.In Brussels the first Brexit negotiations between Britain

:00:58. > :01:09.We have heard from both men leading each side. I have been encouraged

:01:10. > :01:14.the constructive approach both sides have taken. We need to agree on the

:01:15. > :01:19.key principles on the main challenges on the UK withdrawal as

:01:20. > :01:24.soon as possible. Christian Fraser will be live from Brussels. If you

:01:25. > :01:27.have a question about these Brexit negotiations, send them my way and

:01:28. > :01:41.we will put some of them to Christian.

:01:42. > :01:44.The UK is dealing with its fourth terror attack in four months.

:01:45. > :01:47.Last night a van drove into a crowd of worshippers

:01:48. > :01:54.This was the moment the man who allegedly carried out the attack

:01:55. > :02:02.Several men were needed to pin him to the ground.

:02:03. > :02:04.The BBC understands he is a 47-year-old called

:02:05. > :02:20.Here's one of the people that captured him.

:02:21. > :02:30.We got him down to the ground. He was saying, I'm going to kill more

:02:31. > :02:35.people. When he was on the ground, I asked him, why did you do that?

:02:36. > :02:43.Innocent people. And he said, I want to kill Muslims. He said, kill me.

:02:44. > :02:45.We said we are not going to kill you, why did you do that and he

:02:46. > :03:21.wouldn't answer. The restrictions around what we can

:03:22. > :03:29.say. The crowd that was struck had

:03:30. > :03:32.gathered to help an elderly man It's not clear if his death

:03:33. > :03:37.was related to the attack. Well, the attack was in

:03:38. > :03:42.the constituency of the opposition leader Jeremy Corbyn.

:03:43. > :03:45.He arrived in the early hours. Prime Minister Theresa

:03:46. > :03:47.May also visited. Here they both are - along

:03:48. > :03:54.the city's Mayor and police chief. The terrible terrorist attack that

:03:55. > :04:00.took place last night was an evil act born out of hatred and it has

:04:01. > :04:05.devastated a community. I am pleased to be here today to see the strength

:04:06. > :04:09.of that community, coming together, all faiths, united in one desire to

:04:10. > :04:14.see extremism and hatred of all sorts driven out of our society.

:04:15. > :04:18.There is no place for this hatred in our country today and we need to

:04:19. > :04:22.work together as one society, one community, to drive it out, this

:04:23. > :04:27.evil, that is affecting so many families. The stress levels of the

:04:28. > :04:31.people I have met from last night and this morning, they are just

:04:32. > :04:35.frightened, that something like this could happen again. We obviously

:04:36. > :04:38.need efficient and effective policing and we also need an

:04:39. > :04:43.attitude in our society of support for each other. The only way to deal

:04:44. > :04:51.with this kind of issue is community is coming together. This was quite

:04:52. > :04:54.clearly an attack on Muslims who looked like they were probably

:04:55. > :05:03.Muslims and they were coming from a prayer meeting. We treat this as a

:05:04. > :05:10.terrorist attack and we in the Met are as shocked as anybody. These

:05:11. > :05:17.have been a terrible few weeks for London. Unprecedented in recent

:05:18. > :05:22.times. We have seen the horror of the fire at Grenfell Tower. We have

:05:23. > :05:27.seen the attack on London Bridge and before that, Westminster bridge. We

:05:28. > :05:33.saw last night the terrorist attack here in seven sisters. We will stay

:05:34. > :05:41.a strong city. We have been at the scene during the day. I'm not sure

:05:42. > :05:47.if you can make this out, the police tape. Behind that is where the

:05:48. > :05:51.incident took place, that attack. It is now a crime scene. Literally

:05:52. > :05:55.round the corner is Finsbury Park mosque where so many people have

:05:56. > :06:00.been taking part in evening prayers. It is the holy month of Ramadan.

:06:01. > :06:04.That is the same mosque where Theresa May today met with local

:06:05. > :06:08.leaders and leaders of that mosque and also other faith leaders to try

:06:09. > :06:14.to give some reassurance about safety. She has said she is going to

:06:15. > :06:17.review security outside mosques around the country but a lot of

:06:18. > :06:21.people are saying that is not enough and they want to see more security

:06:22. > :06:30.tonight. Much more information on what happened at Finsbury Park on

:06:31. > :06:40.the BBC News app right now. Brexit talks have officially begun.

:06:41. > :06:45.These pictures are from the beginning of the day. At the end of

:06:46. > :06:55.the day after a series of meetings, they held a press conference. I've

:06:56. > :07:00.been encouraged by the constructive approach both sides have taken. We

:07:01. > :07:04.have an eminently achievable timetable. It was clear in the

:07:05. > :07:06.opening that both of us want to achieve the best possible outcome

:07:07. > :07:15.and a strong as possible partnership. One that works for the

:07:16. > :07:21.UK and for the EU. Slay we also agreed of the importance of the

:07:22. > :07:27.timing for this first phase. Our objective is to agree on the main

:07:28. > :07:34.principles of the key challenges for the UK's withdrawals. As soon as

:07:35. > :07:40.possible. This includes cuts citizens' rights, the single

:07:41. > :07:44.financial settlement and a question of Ireland. If you are particularly

:07:45. > :07:52.keen, the guidelines of the negotiations have been agreed and

:07:53. > :07:57.they have been posted online. Very easy to find. They are the guiding

:07:58. > :08:00.you all the way through. The main headline is they will be

:08:01. > :08:06.negotiations of a week at a time and those weeks will take place every

:08:07. > :08:11.four weeks. Also some light touches along the way. Both men gave each

:08:12. > :08:17.other gifts. David Davis gave Michel Barnier a book about mountaineering

:08:18. > :08:21.and Michel Barnier gave David Davis a special stick for going on long

:08:22. > :08:25.walks. I think this was a joke they were both in on because as you can

:08:26. > :08:31.see, lots of people picked up on it and said, Brexit negotiations get

:08:32. > :08:34.perfect gifts for an uphill struggle. You get the idea.

:08:35. > :08:39.Christian Fraser is live from Brussels. A couple of months ago,

:08:40. > :08:43.David Davis was saying, I want to talk about everything in one go. The

:08:44. > :08:47.details of us exiting and the future relationship we will have with the

:08:48. > :08:52.EU, all as one. The EU said no, that is not how it will work and today,

:08:53. > :08:57.they came together and the EU got its way. Yes, and some people,

:08:58. > :09:04.particularly those on the Remain side, would say he has folded on the

:09:05. > :09:10.first day. He says, it is set out in the wording of Article 50. He will

:09:11. > :09:13.obviously push to talk about the future relationship in October going

:09:14. > :09:18.forward because they only have around 500 days to complete this

:09:19. > :09:23.negotiation. Unless they get a vote from the Europeans to carry on. Some

:09:24. > :09:27.people saying that shows what a weakened position he is in. You

:09:28. > :09:31.could look at it in other ways because if you go back about a year,

:09:32. > :09:34.Michel Barnier was saying, we will get to the end of Article 50 and

:09:35. > :09:41.then talk about the separation and then the future. -- the future

:09:42. > :09:45.trading relationship. Maybe there is a bit of give and take. Certainly,

:09:46. > :09:51.the Europeans have got the timetable right here at the outset of the

:09:52. > :09:56.negotiations. We have got a few questions. This is from Dave, saying

:09:57. > :10:01.do we have any agreed times or agreement milestones at this point?

:10:02. > :10:06.You pointed to the sequencing of the meetings. By my estimations, we will

:10:07. > :10:11.have had five weeks of negotiations by the end of October and a lot of

:10:12. > :10:14.work going on in the background. The pace is certainly picking up. I

:10:15. > :10:22.would think by the end of October, they would want to have got to the

:10:23. > :10:25.end of citizens' rights, the European people living in the UK.

:10:26. > :10:29.Also the UK nationals living in Europe. There is the border issue

:10:30. > :10:33.with Ireland which I think will take much longer and also the severance

:10:34. > :10:37.pay which I think will probably get solved recently quickly. David Davis

:10:38. > :10:44.has said he thinks the UK will present the formula on citizens'

:10:45. > :10:47.rights on Monday. Maybe that will be done, I wouldn't think to quickly

:10:48. > :10:54.because there are some fairly tricky issues but I think by October they

:10:55. > :10:59.will be a long way down the road. Someone watching in Cape Town has

:11:00. > :11:04.said, where does the Queen fit into how Britain approaches Brexit? And

:11:05. > :11:09.Alpha says, where does Theresa May fit into the negotiations? On the

:11:10. > :11:13.Queen, she is a constitutional monarch says she doesn't have

:11:14. > :11:19.Executive power. She has some largely her role is. She does keep a

:11:20. > :11:23.abreast of what is going on in her weekly meetings with the Prime

:11:24. > :11:26.Minister and she gets government red boxes so she's very interested we

:11:27. > :11:31.know, in the Brexit procedure. Theresa May will no doubt be keeping

:11:32. > :11:35.you up-to-date on what is happening. The Prime Minister will certainly be

:11:36. > :11:41.in Brussels on Thursday. The first time she has been here since the

:11:42. > :11:44.election. They will not talk about Brexit in the European Council

:11:45. > :11:50.meetings. They have other issues to talk about. They will talk about

:11:51. > :11:54.Brexit over coffee and mints which perhaps suggests where they put it

:11:55. > :11:57.in the pecking order. Theresa May will be hanging around on the Brexit

:11:58. > :12:01.negotiation team will be as well and she will also have to reassure them

:12:02. > :12:06.she will get this deal with the DUP says she at least has a working

:12:07. > :12:15.majority in the House of Commons. This is the guy with a Twitter

:12:16. > :12:19.handle, B cool and relax. He says what you think the UK believes is

:12:20. > :12:26.its strongest leverage in the Brexit negotiations? The strongest

:12:27. > :12:31.leverage, obviously, the City of London, because a lot of the

:12:32. > :12:36.European debt is circulated within the City of London. Obviously we

:12:37. > :12:41.have very important services, 80% of the UK economy is based in services.

:12:42. > :12:45.In one sense, although that could be a weakness, we also have a lot to

:12:46. > :12:49.offer to the European Union and of course, we are because he was of

:12:50. > :12:54.European products. The Germans are saying, that may well be, but there

:12:55. > :13:02.can be no cherry picking when it comes to Brexit. I was making the

:13:03. > :13:05.point earlier, if we get a long way down the negotiations and Angela

:13:06. > :13:10.Merkel is brought in for some of the heavy lifting, do those issues start

:13:11. > :13:15.to tell? It may well be that the Germans take a pragmatic viewpoint

:13:16. > :13:21.on Brexit, particularly if there are large chunks of the economy that

:13:22. > :13:29.depend on it. Security and defence I would other topics. MI6, MI5, lots

:13:30. > :13:33.of intelligence, those think they can offer to the European Union.

:13:34. > :13:40.They don't want to dangle them but they are certainly a lever. This is

:13:41. > :13:43.from someone watching in London, will the negotiations tackle much

:13:44. > :13:49.greater issues now or will they wait for the general election switch off

:13:50. > :13:52.the top of my head are September 24? I don't thing there is any bigger

:13:53. > :13:56.issue in my view than the border between north and south and that

:13:57. > :14:00.took up the bulk of the conversation today. If Britain withdraws from a

:14:01. > :14:05.customs union, how'd you get that invisible border between north and

:14:06. > :14:08.south which is so crucial to the Belfast agreement? Neither side

:14:09. > :14:13.wants to see a border in place between north and south but how'd

:14:14. > :14:16.you get there? Technically it is very difficult because Northern

:14:17. > :14:21.Ireland could be used as a back door into the European Union. That will

:14:22. > :14:27.take a lot of discussion I think. What was the question again? What

:14:28. > :14:30.role is the German election going to play in this? Will they pushed the

:14:31. > :14:38.big issues behind the German election in case there is a change

:14:39. > :14:41.of leader? I think we will hear some strong rhetoric from the German

:14:42. > :14:45.Chancellor over the next few months because of course, she is talking to

:14:46. > :14:49.her electorate as well. She is also talking to a wider European public

:14:50. > :14:58.saying, we cannot be divided by Brexit. The 27 must stick together.

:14:59. > :15:00.I made a point when I was in Paris, France is supposed to be the equal

:15:01. > :15:04.partner to Germany but we know in the last few years because of its

:15:05. > :15:08.economic problems, it is not in Germany is the one that has led.

:15:09. > :15:13.Really interesting survey today talking about German influence in

:15:14. > :15:18.Europe and some Europeans who are in favour of the European project think

:15:19. > :15:21.it is a good thing Germany has such influence, but those are the

:15:22. > :15:26.opposite side you don't like the involvement of the European Union in

:15:27. > :15:31.every aspect of government, facing Germany has too much influence so it

:15:32. > :15:41.is a tricky balance for the Germans. Speak to tomorrow no doubt. We will

:15:42. > :15:45.be live at the EU summit on Thursday for Outside Source. If you are

:15:46. > :15:49.really planning ahead, which frankly, you probably are not, but

:15:50. > :15:52.Outside Source will also be covering the German elections. We will be

:15:53. > :15:59.there a couple of times in September, the voting is on the 24th

:16:00. > :16:02.of September. We asked a number of people what they think of these

:16:03. > :16:07.European Union negotiations and if they think anything has changed

:16:08. > :16:12.since the general election. After these recent elections, I am mostly

:16:13. > :16:17.disturbed because everybody now asking what is the real political

:16:18. > :16:20.will of British people. Maybe it is cynical to say but it has a positive

:16:21. > :16:26.affect on the rest of Europe. What we see is that since Brexit, there

:16:27. > :16:31.was no domino effect. Everyone has predicted that, after Brexit, they

:16:32. > :16:39.should be lots of other countries exiting but what we have seen is a

:16:40. > :16:43.reverse. Bad deal, no deal, no. We need a carefully negotiated deal

:16:44. > :16:45.protecting jobs, environmental standards, our young people and

:16:46. > :16:52.giving them hope and aspiration for the future. It is collaboration and

:16:53. > :16:57.cooperation. I think we're actually seeing more of an opportunity right

:16:58. > :17:01.now. After what has happened in the election, the door might be more

:17:02. > :17:07.open again, there is a chance again that we do not see a very hard

:17:08. > :17:10.Brexit. My fear is the so-called soft Brexit. A new term has been

:17:11. > :17:14.invented which means we would stay part of the single market and go on

:17:15. > :17:17.paying money, we would have the European court making judgments and

:17:18. > :17:22.we would have the free movement of people and I fear that's the

:17:23. > :17:24.direction we may be heading in. If I am right, it would constitute a

:17:25. > :17:30.great betrayal of the British voters. Lots of information on the

:17:31. > :17:37.Brexit negotiations available through the BBC News website. In a

:17:38. > :17:43.few minutes, we will be turning to Nigeria. We have a report about how

:17:44. > :17:45.half the food aid meant for people in the north east of Nigeria is not

:17:46. > :17:59.reaching them. We will find out why. The number of people believed to

:18:00. > :18:03.have died in the Grenfell Tower disaster in London has risen to 79.

:18:04. > :18:12.Police named four more victims today. Anthony Disson was 65 and

:18:13. > :18:18.52-year-old Khadija Khalloufi was confirmed to have died. Officers

:18:19. > :18:26.investigating also said the investigation will be wide-ranging.

:18:27. > :18:30.All criminal offences are being considered by Scotland Yard. Three

:18:31. > :18:34.key themes within that, the first is how the building was managed and

:18:35. > :18:38.maintained, secondly, what kind of fire safety procedures were in place

:18:39. > :18:43.and thirdly, and this is critical in relation to the speculation, since

:18:44. > :18:47.Wednesday, what kind of role, if any, did the refurbishment of the

:18:48. > :18:51.building have? What kind of role did that contribute to the disaster.

:18:52. > :19:02.That will take many weeks, if not months to get to the bottom of.

:19:03. > :19:08.Welcome back to the BBC newsroom. I am Ros Atkins with Outside Source.

:19:09. > :19:13.Our main story is that there has been attacked on a group of people

:19:14. > :19:17.close to a mosque last night. The BBC understands this man, Darren

:19:18. > :19:25.Osborne, is responsible. He was arrested at the scene for terror

:19:26. > :19:28.offences. Let's come back to the Outside Source screen because I want

:19:29. > :19:32.to talk about what is happening in Syria.

:19:33. > :19:34.Russia has warned the US-led coalition fighting in Syria

:19:35. > :19:37.that it will now view its aircraft as targets.

:19:38. > :19:40.That's because a US jet shot down a Syrian jet on Sunday.

:19:41. > :19:41.That's the first time that's happened.

:19:42. > :19:54.TRANSLATION: Corn everybody to avoid unilateral action, the respect, and

:19:55. > :19:57.I stress again, serious sovereignty, and to join our work which is

:19:58. > :20:06.coordinated with the Syrian government. We will try to

:20:07. > :20:11.understand the American point of view on this. Do we have

:20:12. > :20:16.justification for this action? The shooting down of the Syrian plane,

:20:17. > :20:21.the Americans say it was forced protection, an act of self defence.

:20:22. > :20:25.They say the Syrians were targeting some local forces on the ground to

:20:26. > :20:28.which the Americans were allied. They said they had been warned of

:20:29. > :20:33.against this and the American shot down the plane because the people

:20:34. > :20:37.were in jeopardy. They say it's not a shift in strategy in terms of

:20:38. > :20:41.wanting to openly confront the Syrian regime. The strategy is

:20:42. > :20:47.remains focused on trying to eradicate the Islamic State group.

:20:48. > :20:52.In the meantime, if the regime is going to attack its allies and the

:20:53. > :20:58.partners it is working with, then it will respond. That is the

:20:59. > :21:02.explanation here. The chairman of the joint chief of staff also talked

:21:03. > :21:06.about the Russian element, because the Russians have also cut off this

:21:07. > :21:11.hotline they have with the Americans to prevent air accidents. He said

:21:12. > :21:16.there was a communications link between the two operational centres

:21:17. > :21:21.for the Americans were working to try to re-establish what they call

:21:22. > :21:24.this the conflicting channel because it is very important to keep the

:21:25. > :21:30.risk down for the pilots in this crowded airspace. There are so many

:21:31. > :21:35.interested parties in the Syrian conflict and out. What is the top

:21:36. > :21:39.priority now for the Americans? Is it ousting President Assad or

:21:40. > :21:45.dealing with the Islamic State group? It is the latter. The fact

:21:46. > :21:49.they have struck at pro-regime forces, this was the first time they

:21:50. > :21:53.shot down a plane but they have had a number of strikes against

:21:54. > :21:58.pro-regime forces in the last weeks. They say because they are advancing

:21:59. > :22:02.on US position or advancing on positions or getting too close to

:22:03. > :22:05.areas where they have partners on the ground and they are defending

:22:06. > :22:11.themselves, that is how they put it. What you're seeing is that Isis is

:22:12. > :22:15.on the retreat and there is competition for areas and territory

:22:16. > :22:19.it leaves behind. This is bringing US forces in proximity to the regime

:22:20. > :22:24.forces backed by the Iranians and Russians and sometimes conflict.

:22:25. > :22:28.Although America say the strategy is not to get involved in the civil

:22:29. > :22:34.war, the battlefield is getting more complicated and the risk of more

:22:35. > :22:37.violence is there. We appreciate the update. Thank you.

:22:38. > :22:40.The US says it shot the plane down because it was dropping bombs

:22:41. > :22:53.Russia and Syria say its target was the Islamic State group.

:22:54. > :22:55.Like everything in the Syrian conflict -

:22:56. > :22:57.it's fiendishly complicated - and hard to verfiy.

:22:58. > :23:05.Each colour marks territory held by a different group or government.

:23:06. > :23:08.Earlier I spoke to Rasha Qandeel from BBC Arabic and she explained

:23:09. > :23:15.the circumstances in which the plane came down.

:23:16. > :23:27.You have two sides of the story. The Syrian side saying the area that the

:23:28. > :23:31.US carrier targeted was actually occupied by the so-called Islamic

:23:32. > :23:38.State. The other side says it wasn't and it was actually an area where

:23:39. > :23:44.the forces that they support, the SDF, were employed the. Despite what

:23:45. > :23:53.you have been talking about, this has been targeted last week by Iran

:23:54. > :23:57.with a missile. As it is crowded on the ground, it is now also crowded

:23:58. > :24:02.in the air and the fear is it will become more complicated, the rules

:24:03. > :24:05.of engagement will be all mixed up. Explain this channel between the

:24:06. > :24:09.Americans and the Russians which the Russians are now saying we are not

:24:10. > :24:16.doing any more. Despite the Russians' reaction, it seemed to be

:24:17. > :24:20.very immediate and strict but actually it is not. The Russians

:24:21. > :24:24.usually react to such attacks by forcing a counterattack or a reply

:24:25. > :24:27.immediately. This didn't happen. What happened was that there was a

:24:28. > :24:32.promise there is no immediate military action but it was a promise

:24:33. > :24:37.that anything west of the river will be targeted by Russia as targets.

:24:38. > :24:40.This is another threat, halting communication with the United States

:24:41. > :24:44.would supposedly prevented incidents in the air. It is all talk but

:24:45. > :24:52.nothing actually took place on the ground or in the air. Let's also

:24:53. > :24:54.talk about Raqqa, the de facto capital of the territory controlled

:24:55. > :25:02.by the Islamic State and it is under more pressure. Yes. What the United

:25:03. > :25:08.States used today, it is like an example of what is going to happen

:25:09. > :25:14.in Raqqa. The F-18 is a super hornet, it means the speed is a

:25:15. > :25:22.little beyond 2000 kilometres per hour and the range is 3300

:25:23. > :25:25.kilometres. That means the United States might use twin-engine

:25:26. > :25:31.carriers which is a show of force, more than anything else on the

:25:32. > :25:35.ground. Bekker is the centre held by the United States and it is

:25:36. > :25:41.supposedly, if it is actually by the Islamic State, the so-called Islamic

:25:42. > :25:49.State, Raqqa is basically the capital, the centre,. If you speak

:25:50. > :25:53.Arabic, you can get news from all of the world in Arabic via BBC Arabic

:25:54. > :26:06..com. I will speak to you in a couple of minutes.

:26:07. > :26:14.Good evening. There will be a detailed look in United Kingdom just

:26:15. > :26:15.before the top of the hour. Now we will look