:00:10. > :00:22.This is Outside Source, live from the EU Summit in Brussels,
:00:23. > :00:28.Where we have had breaking news. Theresa May has confirmed that EU
:00:29. > :00:33.citizens will be allowed to remain after Brexit is complete. It is the
:00:34. > :00:36.Prime Minister's first appearance in Brussels since she lost a majority
:00:37. > :00:40.in parliament after the recent election.
:00:41. > :00:44.with renewed optimism, even to the point of leading
:00:45. > :00:58.Who knows? You may say I am a dreamer, but I am not the only one!
:00:59. > :01:03.Hello, BBC, how are you? I am fine. All the bloc's biggest
:01:04. > :01:05.leaders are here - migration and jobs are all high
:01:06. > :01:07.on the agenda. After a number of recent
:01:08. > :01:10.terror attacks in Europe - including one here in Brussels
:01:11. > :01:13.just two days ago - pressure will be on leaders
:01:14. > :01:25.to combat the threat. If you have any questions, whether
:01:26. > :01:32.on the breaking news about EU citizens in the UK, or about Brexit
:01:33. > :01:34.in general, send it my way. Our contact details are on the screen
:01:35. > :01:56.throughout the programme. In the last few minutes, we have
:01:57. > :02:01.learned that UK Prime Minister Theresa May, whom we knew would be
:02:02. > :02:05.speaking to other EU leaders about the issue of citizens' rights, well,
:02:06. > :02:09.she said that EU citizens currently living in the UK will be allowed to
:02:10. > :02:15.stay after Brexit, but she has rejected calls by the EU for a
:02:16. > :02:18.European courts to oversee these rights. Let's bring in Damian, who
:02:19. > :02:23.has been working on the story all day long. Tell us more. It is
:02:24. > :02:28.interesting. Theresa May finished her breathing in the last few
:02:29. > :02:34.minutes, so we have all been passed the details. In the past, she was
:02:35. > :02:39.talking about a big and generous offer. What she has tabled, she
:02:40. > :02:43.said, is a fair and serious offer, which I think when you look at it
:02:44. > :02:48.will come in below the EU expectation, so this will be tricky.
:02:49. > :02:54.Why is it coming in below expectations? There are several
:02:55. > :02:59.areas of contention. The first, who will best apply to? She says it will
:03:00. > :03:04.apply to any EU citizen living in the UK who is there lawfully. There
:03:05. > :03:09.will be questions, and the devil will be in the detail. She says you
:03:10. > :03:15.will be able to get a settled status. In UK law, I think that is
:03:16. > :03:19.called a definite leave to remain. Will it apply to students, to
:03:20. > :03:22.someone who is undocumented, to someone who is there not working but
:03:23. > :03:28.caring for someone else, will it apply to their children? EU law says
:03:29. > :03:33.the rights pass to your children. EU law says it will apply to your wife.
:03:34. > :03:36.There are all sorts of people who would lose rights under this.
:03:37. > :03:43.Another difficulty, who governs this. She has said British courts,
:03:44. > :03:48.they have said EU court. And this is all with reference to EU citizens in
:03:49. > :03:54.the UK, and I may be some watching right now. There are also people
:03:55. > :04:00.across Europe watching on BBC World News thinking, where do we fit into
:04:01. > :04:03.this? Good question. Theresa May says she wants reciprocal rights,
:04:04. > :04:08.the same sorts of rights guaranteed for British people in Europe. The EU
:04:09. > :04:13.has said it would be willing to guarantee full rights, the ones that
:04:14. > :04:16.everyone has today, in perpetuity. The EU still has on the table an
:04:17. > :04:26.offer that is higher and offers more rights further into the future. What
:04:27. > :04:29.will this UK offer mean for UK citizens and what will the EU side
:04:30. > :04:38.say about that? We don't know. Also, which rights? There are quite a few!
:04:39. > :04:42.The right to work, the right to health care, to a pension and social
:04:43. > :04:47.security benefits. The EU will want to look at that very carefully as
:04:48. > :04:52.well. Thank you very much. If you get more details, please come back.
:04:53. > :04:55.Significant developments here, with Theresa May confirming that EU
:04:56. > :05:00.citizens currently in the UK will be able to remain after Brexit. As
:05:01. > :05:03.Damian has just said, this is an issue that is far from being
:05:04. > :05:07.resolved. If you're thinking, perhaps they are talking about it
:05:08. > :05:11.now, they are not. Theresa May has left for the day, and it was always
:05:12. > :05:17.made clear this would not be negotiated. Theresa May made that
:05:18. > :05:23.this -- made a statement, there was no discussion. It will be picked up
:05:24. > :05:29.by the negotiating teams. That will not happen at this summit. Brexit is
:05:30. > :05:31.a big issue here at this EU summit, and it has been at every EU summit
:05:32. > :05:55.since this time last year. There is a lot of discussion about
:05:56. > :06:00.the border between the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland. And
:06:01. > :06:03.then there is the divorce Bill, the figure that the UK may have to pay
:06:04. > :06:09.to get out of its long-term financial commitments to the
:06:10. > :06:12.European Union. Some big issues to grapple with. Before we go further,
:06:13. > :06:17.let me play you a little bit of what Theresa May told the BBC earlier.
:06:18. > :06:24.I will set out today clearly how the United Kingdom proposes to protect
:06:25. > :06:28.the rights of EU citizens living in the UK, and see the rights of UK
:06:29. > :06:32.residents living in Europe protected. It has been an important
:06:33. > :06:36.issue, and we wanted it to be one of the early issues considered in the
:06:37. > :06:42.negotiations. That is now the case, that work is starting, and we will
:06:43. > :06:50.step out -- set out how rights will be protected for EU citizens in the
:06:51. > :06:51.United Kingdom. That was the Prime Minister arriving at the European
:06:52. > :06:55.Council. President of the European Council
:06:56. > :07:09.Donald Tusk appears to still be You hear different predictions
:07:10. > :07:15.coming from different people about the possible outcome of these
:07:16. > :07:22.negotiations. Hard Brexit, soft Brexit, or no Deal. Some of my
:07:23. > :07:29.British friends have asked me whether Brexit could be reversed,
:07:30. > :07:38.and whether I could imagine an outcome whether UK stays part of the
:07:39. > :07:41.EU. I told than that in fact -- I told them that in fact the European
:07:42. > :07:47.Union was built on dreams that seemed impossible to achieve. So,
:07:48. > :07:55.who knows? You may say I am a dreamer, but I am not the only one!
:07:56. > :08:03.Yes, that's right, Donald Tusk quoting John Lennon. He is hinting
:08:04. > :08:08.that the UK could make a U-turn on this. Let's bring in Chris Morris,
:08:09. > :08:14.who often helps us on European matters. Every time I mention that a
:08:15. > :08:18.senior EU figure has even hinted that a U-turn might be a puzzle,
:08:19. > :08:22.lots of viewers who support a Brexit come back and say, what are they
:08:23. > :08:26.doing, this isn't helpful. If you are an EU leader and you are asked
:08:27. > :08:31.at the door is still open, in a sense, it would make more news if
:08:32. > :08:35.you said the door was completely closed. It was perhaps a deliberate
:08:36. > :08:39.message being sent out to those who would like a slightly different type
:08:40. > :08:42.of Brexit than the one being promoted by Theresa May. I'm not
:08:43. > :08:45.sure it will be seen by all his EU colleagues as a helpful thing to say
:08:46. > :08:49.at the moment, because a lot of them are saying, it has been one year
:08:50. > :08:53.since the referendum, let's get on with it. Mr Tusk has his position
:08:54. > :08:58.and he likes putting out these lines occasionally. I'm not sure there is
:08:59. > :09:03.an expectation of a U-turn. I think most people think Brexit will
:09:04. > :09:09.happen. The question is, what type of Brexit and under what conditions?
:09:10. > :09:11.Picking up on that point, I was surprised to hear the Netherlands
:09:12. > :09:19.Prime Minister saying earlier that it would be great to know exactly it
:09:20. > :09:23.what kind of Brexit Britain wants. That's astonishing. And that was one
:09:24. > :09:26.of the messages of the recent UK election. We still haven't come to a
:09:27. > :09:31.determination about what kind of Brexit we want. Don't forget what
:09:32. > :09:36.the question was in the referendum last year: Do you want to remain in
:09:37. > :09:42.the EU do you want to leave? It did not discuss details of the single
:09:43. > :09:46.market, customs union, soft or hard Brexit. One of the big things we
:09:47. > :09:51.will see in the next few months, both within the UK Parliament and
:09:52. > :09:56.within the Conservative Party, is manoeuvring proposition as people
:09:57. > :10:04.try and decide what we are going to do for Brexit, and what bits of the
:10:05. > :10:08.EU might we do business with. Critically, what kind of transition
:10:09. > :10:11.to get us from where we are now to where we might be in the future? It
:10:12. > :10:17.is all up for grabs. Politics in the UK has never been so fluid. We were
:10:18. > :10:20.in pretty much the same spot a year ago just after Brexit, and the mood
:10:21. > :10:26.here was not great, frankly. Contrast that with the message, and
:10:27. > :10:30.from the new leaders of Ireland and France, and you wonder if things
:10:31. > :10:38.have shifted. I wonder if you buy that, a fundamental shift? As you
:10:39. > :10:45.say, president macro, and a new leader in Ireland, -- Emmanuel
:10:46. > :10:49.Macron. There are some positive signs, even though the fundamental
:10:50. > :10:55.architecture of the Eurozone still need quite a bit of work. There are
:10:56. > :10:58.splits. In the response to Brexit, we saw genuine unity between the
:10:59. > :11:02.other 27. I don't think I have seen quite that level of unity on any
:11:03. > :11:06.other subject. There are other issues up legal rights, human
:11:07. > :11:11.rights, on which you can see splits between some of the old countries in
:11:12. > :11:14.Western Europe and the new countries in Eastern Europe. Emmanuel Macron
:11:15. > :11:22.seems to be putting down markers in the sand to countries such as
:11:23. > :11:25.Poland, saying this is a community values, and if we don't share values
:11:26. > :11:30.in the future, it could become a problem. Chris, don't go far, I have
:11:31. > :11:43.more questions. As have those of you watching.
:11:44. > :11:52.If you want to contact us, our contact details are on screen. This
:11:53. > :11:55.is where a lot of people who fundamentally believe in the idea of
:11:56. > :12:00.the EU go about their work. I am in the European Council, just a couple
:12:01. > :12:04.of hundred meters away from the European Commission, the civil
:12:05. > :12:10.service of the EU, and very close to one of the European Parliaments as
:12:11. > :12:13.well. What is interesting is that leader after leader arriving today
:12:14. > :12:17.was emphasising that we're not just here to talk about Brexit, and far
:12:18. > :12:24.from it. The issues that they raised as priorities: Migration - there are
:12:25. > :12:29.still many thousands of people coming into the EU - and how the EU
:12:30. > :12:33.discourages people from doing that or manages them when they arrive is
:12:34. > :12:37.still a pressing issue. Then there is defence and security. There are
:12:38. > :12:41.regular terror attacks in the EU at the moment. And there are lots of
:12:42. > :12:46.questions about how the EU organises defence. Then there is the economy -
:12:47. > :12:50.jobs and growth getting a lot of emphasis. Let's bring Chris back in
:12:51. > :12:56.on the issue of the fence, because I think people in the UK will be quite
:12:57. > :13:01.surprised to see the EU moving so far so fast on this. There are many
:13:02. > :13:05.issues, but one of them on which the UK has held back the rest of the EU
:13:06. > :13:11.has been defence. For years, the UK has been the country saying, we have
:13:12. > :13:14.Nato, we don't need more integrated structures at EU level. It is
:13:15. > :13:19.duplication and a waste of money, and we are not comfortable with it.
:13:20. > :13:24.With the UK on the way out, we think, then it means that the big
:13:25. > :13:30.impediment to moving forward on European defence cooperation has
:13:31. > :13:33.gone, and Germany and France are particularly keen on it. We have
:13:34. > :13:36.seen movement and we will see movement over the course of the rest
:13:37. > :13:42.of this year as well. I think it is something that will be significant.
:13:43. > :13:47.Jean-Claude Juncker said today that most of the research and development
:13:48. > :13:52.was done at national level, and why are we doing that in a union of 28,
:13:53. > :13:56.soon-to-be 27, countries? There are things that we could do together to
:13:57. > :14:01.save money and resources, and produce better results. Why do we
:14:02. > :14:07.have 19 different types of tank when we could have one or two? We will
:14:08. > :14:12.come back to you in a minute. I have got a message saying: Is Nigel
:14:13. > :14:16.Farage there? I saw him walking in and asked him what he made of how
:14:17. > :14:20.Brexit is going. He said, it was a terrible idea to have that election.
:14:21. > :14:24.The decision has been taken and now it is being undermined. He is in
:14:25. > :14:25.Brussels, still a member of the European Parliament. Keep the
:14:26. > :14:34.questions coming. Safety officials are carrying out
:14:35. > :14:38.urgent checks on hundreds of high rise buildings across the UK
:14:39. > :14:41.to ensure there is no repeat of the fire which spread
:14:42. > :14:44.through Grenfell Tower. Seven residential blocks in four
:14:45. > :14:46.local authority areas have been found to have cladding
:14:47. > :14:48.which could catch fire. Panels are already being removed
:14:49. > :14:50.from some high rise Dozens of MPs questioned
:14:51. > :14:56.the Prime Minister about the issue in the Commons this morning,
:14:57. > :15:09.including this intervention Was cladding of the type used in
:15:10. > :15:15.Grenfell Tower compliant with the fire safety and building regulations
:15:16. > :15:23.applicable at the time when the refurbishment was undertaken - yes
:15:24. > :15:27.or no? They are testing the cladding on the building, and they expect to
:15:28. > :15:31.make the results of this public in the next, I think, in the next 48
:15:32. > :15:42.hours. This is Outside Source,
:15:43. > :16:03.live from the BBC newsroom. Theresa May has said in the last few
:16:04. > :16:07.minutes that she will allow EU citizens living in the UK for five
:16:08. > :16:10.years the right to stay, but she has rejected the EU call for the
:16:11. > :16:19.European Court to oversee those rights.
:16:20. > :16:21.Let's take a break from European politics and talk about American
:16:22. > :16:23.politics. The US Senate has finally revealed
:16:24. > :16:36.its plan to replace Obamacare. This has been largely fashioned by
:16:37. > :16:41.the Republicans. Let's begin by hearing Senator Mitch McConnell.
:16:42. > :16:49.We agree on the need to free Americans from Obamacare's policies.
:16:50. > :16:53.We will repeal it so that Americans are no longer forced to buy
:16:54. > :16:58.insurance that they don't need or can't afford. We will repeal the
:16:59. > :17:03.employer mandates that Americans no longer see their hours and take home
:17:04. > :17:07.pay cut by employers because of it. We agree on the need to improve the
:17:08. > :17:11.affordability of health insurance and policies contained in the
:17:12. > :17:16.discussion draft will do that. We will eliminate costly Obamacare
:17:17. > :17:23.taxes that are passed onto consumers so we can put downward pressure
:17:24. > :17:30.premiums. And this is the perspective from the Democrats.
:17:31. > :17:38.The Senate Republican bill is a wolf in sheep's clothing. We are
:17:39. > :17:44.potentially voting on it in one week. No committee hearings, no
:17:45. > :17:51.amendments in committee, no debate on the floor, save for ten measly
:17:52. > :17:52.hours on one of the most important bills we are dealing with in
:17:53. > :18:03.decades. Hi, Laura. I think some people were
:18:04. > :18:08.expecting some bigger changes to this Bill? I think a number of
:18:09. > :18:14.people were wondering what kind of draft would come out, and what we
:18:15. > :18:17.have seen is basically quite similar to what the House of Representatives
:18:18. > :18:29.came out with. There are some key changes. The cats that the House
:18:30. > :18:38.proposed to Medicaid, the system for the poorest in America -- beat cuts
:18:39. > :18:42.to that are not as deep and they roll-out over a longer period, so
:18:43. > :18:46.they will eventually bite, which is one of the concerns of health groups
:18:47. > :18:50.and Democrats, who say there will be a tax cut for the wealthy in the US.
:18:51. > :18:54.The reason they are cutting back taxes because that is what fun is
:18:55. > :18:58.the Affordable Care Act. They are cutting taxes for the wealthy, and
:18:59. > :19:02.yet the poorest in America, who require health care, might not get
:19:03. > :19:07.the care they need under this bill, and that is the main criticism you
:19:08. > :19:13.are seeing from the Democrat side. And is this a done deal, Bora?
:19:14. > :19:16.Earlier in the year, there were a rather -- there were other efforts
:19:17. > :19:20.that fell down because the Republicans couldn't get their
:19:21. > :19:25.numbers together. Well, well, we will have to wait and see. One of
:19:26. > :19:29.the reasons why this has all been drafted behind closed doors is to
:19:30. > :19:34.stop the controversy that has dogged Republicans over this key campaign
:19:35. > :19:39.pledge. They simply cannot agree, and when it comes to this bill, it
:19:40. > :19:44.is no different. You have already had those from the far right saying
:19:45. > :19:49.this does not go far enough, that this is Obamacare - light. Then you
:19:50. > :19:55.have more moderate conservatives saying that this goes too far and
:19:56. > :20:02.made cut health care for women. When it comes to those two sides, they
:20:03. > :20:08.will have to reconcile. -- it may cut health care for women. The
:20:09. > :20:13.Congressional budget office will look at this Bill, an independent
:20:14. > :20:18.body, and try to figure out how many Americans will lose health care.
:20:19. > :20:22.Under the previous draft, they said 23 million Americans. So, early next
:20:23. > :20:27.week, expect that score, and that could come the whole vote. Laura,
:20:28. > :20:41.thanks for taking us through that. I am live that the EU Council.
:20:42. > :20:45.Theresa May has just announced that EU citizens who have been in the UK
:20:46. > :20:51.for five years will be able to remain beyond the point of Brexit.
:20:52. > :20:56.This is a place unlike any other that I have reported on. It is vast,
:20:57. > :20:59.like a rabbit warren, there are various speeches and events relating
:21:00. > :21:00.to the different leaders who are here.
:21:01. > :21:02.I've spent the day walking around this building,
:21:03. > :21:08.speaking to the EU's leaders and trying to get answers from them.
:21:09. > :21:13.There is a new building and a new red carpet here, and it affords all
:21:14. > :21:17.the leaders more time to think about whether they want to stop for those
:21:18. > :21:24.of us gathered to ask questions, or not. Chancellor Merkel, BBC News -
:21:25. > :21:30.can Brexit be done in two years? What are you hoping to hear from
:21:31. > :21:33.Theresa May later? Are you satisfied with the
:21:34. > :21:41.cooperation you're getting from the UK on security measures? I hope to
:21:42. > :21:46.keep a good relation with the UK for security, but also for the future of
:21:47. > :21:50.Europe. This is the cafeteria where you see journalists and sometimes
:21:51. > :21:55.politicians. Last year, just over there, Nigel Farage bought a pint of
:21:56. > :22:00.beer and was enjoying celebrating Brexit. He is not in a mood to
:22:01. > :22:04.celebrate since the last UK election result. If you come over here and we
:22:05. > :22:06.leave the journalists behind, as you head through, you can see there are
:22:07. > :22:12.rooms where people are working, but all over, we're left with things
:22:13. > :22:17.like this, which give us the indicated programme for the media
:22:18. > :22:22.and briefings we can expect. This is the press bit at the European
:22:23. > :22:28.Council - absolutely huge, full of journalists from all over the EU. On
:22:29. > :22:31.the screens, we have feeds coming in from press conferences that are
:22:32. > :22:36.happening. That is the president of the European Parliament, whom I
:22:37. > :22:42.spoke to earlier. And there is a big huddle in the middle of this floor,
:22:43. > :22:49.where politicians will give briefings to journalists. That press
:22:50. > :22:53.conference I just showed you a pretty sure was taking place in the
:22:54. > :22:58.main conference rooms. It is in this room here for stop Jean-Claude
:22:59. > :23:03.Juncker, president of the European Commission, and Donald Tusk,
:23:04. > :23:06.president of the European Council. It is from the press conferences
:23:07. > :23:10.that the politicians come up the stairs and back out into the press
:23:11. > :23:16.bit on the way to their cars. So, this little walkway is really
:23:17. > :23:21.important. I will be doing Outside Source from here, and if you're
:23:22. > :23:27.lucky, politicians might pass by as you are reporting an stop a
:23:28. > :23:31.conversation. Hello, how are you? I am fine. You said you don't have
:23:32. > :23:36.illusions in politics, but do you have dreams that perhaps Brexit may
:23:37. > :23:42.not happen? That is a decision from people to take, but not me. What
:23:43. > :23:46.about staying in the single market? We will see in the course of the
:23:47. > :23:50.negotiations. That was Jean-Claude Juncker speaking to me earlier. We
:23:51. > :23:57.have an awful lot of questions. Let's work through them with the
:23:58. > :23:59.help of Chris Morris. Paula is watching and saying, without
:24:00. > :24:03.details, this brings no clarity and adds nothing to the vague statements
:24:04. > :24:07.of last year with reference to the EU citizens in the UK. We are still
:24:08. > :24:18.short on quite a lot of detail, aren't we? Yes, we are. We have had
:24:19. > :24:29.a more details omission from the EU side. -- a more detailed submission.
:24:30. > :24:33.One question is, what would be the legal basis on which these rights
:24:34. > :24:37.would be guaranteed? The EU side wanted to be the European Court of
:24:38. > :24:41.Justice, whereas Mrs May and the Government have said they don't
:24:42. > :24:44.think the ECJ should play that role. There are other questions still
:24:45. > :24:49.unanswered, and we may see more detail when these things are made
:24:50. > :24:53.public on Monday, but what happens to family members outside the UK at
:24:54. > :24:58.the moment and the descendants of people given this new settled
:24:59. > :25:03.status? Don't forget, this is just a British proposal, not the end of the
:25:04. > :25:08.line. Arguably, the proposal from the EU as it stands is more generous
:25:09. > :25:15.than what we have heard from Theresa May. Raj says, are the rules from
:25:16. > :25:20.migration at the moment the same as they have ever been? Nothing will
:25:21. > :25:25.change until the day the EU leaves. As long as the UK is a member of the
:25:26. > :25:28.EU, and this phrase has been repeated a lot, it enjoys the same
:25:29. > :25:33.rights and responsibility, which means that free movement continues
:25:34. > :25:37.until the day we leave, and until we know what is in a transition period,
:25:38. > :25:44.and even possibly a little longer beyond that. Just to remind you
:25:45. > :25:51.watching, this was not a regular dinner. Theresa May has introduced
:25:52. > :25:56.this idea, but the EU have been clear that they would not discuss
:25:57. > :26:00.this at the dinner this evening. That will wait for the formal
:26:01. > :26:03.discussions between the UK and the EU. Keep the questions coming and we
:26:04. > :26:10.will get back to them in the next 30 minutes.