:00:11. > :00:15.Hello, I'm Ros Atkins, this is Outside Source live
:00:16. > :00:19.from Hamburg, where the G20 will be taking place.
:00:20. > :00:27.It is not overstating things to say this summit could shape the world's
:00:28. > :00:32.response to other problems. Angela Merkel and Donald Trump might be the
:00:33. > :00:36.most prominent personalities in the next couple of days. Donald Trump
:00:37. > :00:38.flew in from Warsaw, in which he gave this speech, with this warning
:00:39. > :00:43.about Western separation. There are dire threats for our
:00:44. > :00:46.security and to our way of life. Since then, he's met with
:00:47. > :00:52.German Chancellor Angela Merkel. We know they don't agree on many
:00:53. > :00:57.things, including climate change. TRANSLATION: We know
:00:58. > :00:59.the United States have withdrawn All others, or at least
:01:00. > :01:02.as far as we know - many, many others -
:01:03. > :01:04.are still committed International trade is likely to be
:01:05. > :01:19.a tension point as well. This is today, with the EU and Japan
:01:20. > :01:22.agreeing on an outline of the major free trade agreement. In Hamburg a
:01:23. > :01:26.big protest has been under way. Thousands have been out on the
:01:27. > :01:30.streets, along with thousands of police officers, and it has turned
:01:31. > :01:33.violent in some areas of the city. We will bring you right up to date.
:01:34. > :01:36.And if you want to get in touch at any time -
:01:37. > :02:17.There are three things I should tell you before we do anything
:02:18. > :02:29.else on Outside Source. Above me is the sound of helicopters. There was
:02:30. > :02:33.also the bang of CS gas being used by police. The second thing, if I'm
:02:34. > :02:36.looking at a slightly tropical surrounding its because I'm actually
:02:37. > :02:41.in the middle of a beach bar, which has some palm trees. We chose it
:02:42. > :02:45.because it allows us to broadcast close to where this protest takes
:02:46. > :02:49.place, as well as showing you the scale of Hamburg's port. And the
:02:50. > :02:54.third thing, whilst all the world's most important and powerful leaders
:02:55. > :02:57.are here, two people are likely to dominate, the host Angela Merkel and
:02:58. > :03:03.her most high-profile gas, Donald Trump. Those two have already met in
:03:04. > :03:06.the last couple of hours. We know they have many differences. Angela
:03:07. > :03:10.Merkel has said recently that the world can no longer rely on the US.
:03:11. > :03:18.We know she says that tackling climate change is the number-1
:03:19. > :03:21.priority at the G20 summit. We know Donald is pulling the US out of the
:03:22. > :03:24.climate change agreement. We will have more on the protests and the
:03:25. > :03:29.politics in a moment. First of all, let's look back a few hours to a
:03:30. > :03:30.major speech Donald Trump gave in Warsaw. And he got a great
:03:31. > :03:32.reception. CHANTING "DONALD TRUMP!
:03:33. > :03:56.DONALD TRUMP". Thank you. Effusive praise for
:03:57. > :03:58.Poland and polls but also this stark warning.
:03:59. > :04:01.The fundamental question of our time is whether the West has
:04:02. > :04:05.Do we have the confidence in our values to defend them at any cost?
:04:06. > :04:11.Do we have enough respect for our citizens to protect our borders?
:04:12. > :04:15.Do we have the desire and the courage to preserve our
:04:16. > :04:28.civilisation, in the face of those who would subvert and destroy it?
:04:29. > :04:31.We can have the largest economies and the most lethal weapons anywhere
:04:32. > :04:34.on earth, but if we do not have strong families and strong values,
:04:35. > :04:45.then we will be weak and we will not survive.
:04:46. > :04:51.Given that America has thousands of troops in Poland and that that
:04:52. > :04:56.speech was being made only 300 kilometres away from the border with
:04:57. > :05:00.Russia, it was inevitable that Donald Trump returned to a theme
:05:01. > :05:04.that he has spoken about many times, the amount of money that Nato
:05:05. > :05:09.members spend on defence. Nato members are committed to spending 2%
:05:10. > :05:14.of their GDP but a lot of them do not do that. Poland is one that
:05:15. > :05:18.does. Donald Trump praised the Polish government that had this
:05:19. > :05:25.message for other European members of Nato.
:05:26. > :05:27.My administration has demanded that all members of Nato
:05:28. > :05:30.finally meet their full and fair financial obligation.
:05:31. > :05:36.As a result of this insistence, billions of dollars more have
:05:37. > :05:48.There are billions and billions of dollars more coming
:05:49. > :05:50.in from countries that, in my opinion, would not have
:05:51. > :06:02.Justyna Pawlak, Poland correspondent for Reuters, joins us.
:06:03. > :06:11.I wonder how you assess what Mr Trump had to say?
:06:12. > :06:18.Well, I think there was a lot of concern is coming out of this
:06:19. > :06:21.meeting, with Poland being a leading Eurosceptic voice in Europe, that
:06:22. > :06:24.President Trump would be trying to drive a wedge between the Polish
:06:25. > :06:29.government and the eastern part of the EU and the West. I think he had
:06:30. > :06:32.a sort of mixed message, really, praising the Polish for spending
:06:33. > :06:42.more than some of the Western Europeans on the one hand. While on
:06:43. > :06:45.the other hand, kind of slightly possibly encouraging the Polish in
:06:46. > :06:51.their defiance towards the European Union, by giving a veiled criticism
:06:52. > :06:58.of European bureaucracy, something that the Polish government, a viewed
:06:59. > :07:03.the Polish government shares. And he had some sharp criticism for
:07:04. > :07:13.Russia, didn't he? Saying Russia was destabilising Ukraine?
:07:14. > :07:18.Yes, definitely. He also reaffirmed Washington's commitment to Nato's
:07:19. > :07:21.collective defence clause, something both the Polish government and the
:07:22. > :07:25.Western governments are hoping to hear. But the Polish government was
:07:26. > :07:32.also saying in the run-up to this meeting that they were hoping for
:07:33. > :07:40.more promises, possibly, and that didn't materialise.
:07:41. > :07:44.This was a big coup for the Polish government, for Mr Trump to stop in
:07:45. > :07:49.Warsaw before coming to the G20. Would you agree it's a symptom of a
:07:50. > :07:55.strained relationship that he has with more established European
:07:56. > :08:00.powers, like France and Germany? Well, certainly this is a huge
:08:01. > :08:08.diplomatic coup for the Polish government. But I think he tried...
:08:09. > :08:13.Any criticism he had of Europe was quite veiled. Like his comment about
:08:14. > :08:18.the bureaucracy being one of the biggest threats to Western
:08:19. > :08:28.civilisation. So I think it's a mixed message to both sides.
:08:29. > :08:32.Thank you very much for your time. If you are just switching on, I'm
:08:33. > :08:36.live with you from by the water in Hamburg. Across the water is
:08:37. > :08:39.Hamburg's enormous port. Let me tell you more about the city we are in
:08:40. > :08:45.and the event that is going to start tomorrow. Hamburgers Germany's
:08:46. > :08:49.second biggest city, 1.7 million people live here. The port you can
:08:50. > :08:52.see behind me with its hundreds of grains is one of the biggest in
:08:53. > :08:58.Europe. It is not by chance for Angela Merkel has chosen this as the
:08:59. > :09:00.host city. She wanted to say her commitment to the G20's came with a
:09:01. > :09:06.commitment to globalisation and trade. If we come more closely in on
:09:07. > :09:10.the map, you will see I am right by the water, lots of restaurants here
:09:11. > :09:14.are largely empty because of the G20. This is a tough area to come
:09:15. > :09:16.into the moment. But we're not just here because we are close to the
:09:17. > :09:20.port and the restaurant. The big protest we will look out across the
:09:21. > :09:23.hour has also been passing very, very close to where I am
:09:24. > :09:29.broadcasting from and I will bring you up to date on that. That is the
:09:30. > :09:35.city the G20. Let's talk about the event itself, G20 stands the group
:09:36. > :09:40.of 20, and organisational most 20 years old. It features the world's
:09:41. > :09:48.19 largest economies in the world, plus the European Union. You will
:09:49. > :09:52.get the usual suspects, US, and Germany, China, Russia, also places
:09:53. > :09:55.like Indonesia and South Africa. The people here represent two thirds of
:09:56. > :10:00.the world's population, and that economic impact is even more
:10:01. > :10:05.pronounced. They represent 80% of the world's economic output. So the
:10:06. > :10:08.decisions that take place here at the G20 are hugely significant.
:10:09. > :10:13.Let's try and understand a little bit more.
:10:14. > :10:15.Ariane Reimers is a political correspondent for ARD
:10:16. > :10:18.Stefanie Friedhoff is a freelance German-American journalist.
:10:19. > :10:24.Thank you both for joining us. Lots of conversation, but does the G20
:10:25. > :10:30.have an obligation to deliver policies or commitments? I guess so.
:10:31. > :10:34.It's quite important for Angela Merkel to deliver something. Because
:10:35. > :10:39.she has come up at the beginning of G20 that she will get the Paris
:10:40. > :10:43.climate agreement, all the climate change issues are very important to
:10:44. > :10:48.her. It's kind of a shock that Trump has left, the United States have
:10:49. > :10:52.left the Paris climate agreement. I think it will be very tough for her
:10:53. > :10:54.to get the final declaration at the end and have the climate issue at
:10:55. > :11:03.the top of what she wants. That will be the challenge for her. I guess
:11:04. > :11:08.that the G7 Wii had a statement from six but not from seven. That's what
:11:09. > :11:12.I expected from this meeting, a veto and 19 in favour. If that is an
:11:13. > :11:19.outcome, is that a defeat for the idea of the G20, the idea that all
:11:20. > :11:23.these powerful countries can work in collectively? I think they are
:11:24. > :11:29.trying very hard to avoid 19 plus one. I think they will try to get
:11:30. > :11:32.the final declaration and they might put the descent into the first few
:11:33. > :11:36.sentences and go on with a joint declaration, may be harbouring the
:11:37. > :11:41.other topics, which are not that controversial as climate. At the end
:11:42. > :11:45.they might have a G20 final declaration, that is the aim of the
:11:46. > :11:49.Germans, I guess. And have the US also signing it. I have covered lots
:11:50. > :11:52.of international summits but not sure if I have seen one with the
:11:53. > :11:57.security operation of this scale. For viewers in the UK and around the
:11:58. > :12:00.world, can you describe what has happened to this city? The city has
:12:01. > :12:05.pretty much been shut down in the last 24 hours, I would say. I was
:12:06. > :12:10.having a beer last night and then the tracks came in and shut off
:12:11. > :12:14.everything. It very much reminded me of George W Bush's inauguration, the
:12:15. > :12:21.first time in Washington were shut down in the same way. I am from
:12:22. > :12:25.Hamburg and I brought here. Now I work in the capital, and I had
:12:26. > :12:30.walked to my parents home, because there was no taxis, no buses, no
:12:31. > :12:36.public transport. 06 weeks I walked four kilometres. New Hamburg. Some
:12:37. > :12:40.critics say it's a vision of a dystopian future, with visions of
:12:41. > :12:42.water cannon tanks on the streets and all this security. The
:12:43. > :12:46.alternative Angela Merkel was to hold it in the middle of nowhere and
:12:47. > :12:48.some people might praise her for bringing it to write to the middle
:12:49. > :12:53.of one of your most important cities? Some of the Hamburg people
:12:54. > :12:56.are saying it's a bad idea to bring it to such a big city, shut it down
:12:57. > :13:01.so nobody can go to work, schools are closed, very difficult. A lot of
:13:02. > :13:05.people I know have fled the city, have taken some days off, holiday or
:13:06. > :13:09.whatever. I think she wanted, you just said it, she wanted to have it
:13:10. > :13:14.here as a centre, a harbour free-trade, so that was a symbol,
:13:15. > :13:19.and it's her birth town, so maybe an emotional element as well. Lots of
:13:20. > :13:26.intriguing head-to-head meetings, Trump and Angela Merkel, Donald
:13:27. > :13:32.Trump and Vladimir Putin, which will you looking for to the most? Donald
:13:33. > :13:35.Trump and Vladimir Putin. In the United States now I think there is
:13:36. > :13:39.such importance at seeing how they will act with each other, and what
:13:40. > :13:42.the canister will be between the two of them. That's what I'm most
:13:43. > :13:47.excited about. Good to see both of you. Thank you very much. You're not
:13:48. > :13:53.going anywhere. If you have questions about the G20 send them my
:13:54. > :13:58.way. You can see our e-mail on the screen, and the hashtag. We will do
:13:59. > :14:01.our best answer your questions. I mentioned the protest. We will tend
:14:02. > :14:05.to those in detail in a few minutes and bring you right up to date off
:14:06. > :14:10.what has happened on the streets and why these protesters are turning out
:14:11. > :14:11.to object to Donald Trump at this whole summit. We will try to
:14:12. > :14:26.understand why. Central London has been rocked by
:14:27. > :14:29.series of terrorist attacks. Police say there have been many casualties
:14:30. > :14:35.and there is growing speculation that al-Qaeda was responsible.
:14:36. > :14:39.Germany will be the host of the 2006 World Cup. They beat the favourite
:14:40. > :14:42.South Africa by a single vote. In South Africa the possibility of
:14:43. > :14:46.losing hadn't even been contemplated.
:14:47. > :14:49.The man entered the palace through a downstairs window and made his way
:14:50. > :14:54.from the Queen's private bedroom and then asked her for a cigarette. On
:14:55. > :14:55.the pretext of some being brought, she summoned the footman on duty who
:14:56. > :15:15.took the man away. One child. One teacher. One book,
:15:16. > :15:31.and one pen can change the world. Education is the only solution.
:15:32. > :15:43.I am live in Hamburg on the eve of the Iraq. Many elements to this
:15:44. > :15:46.story, Angela Merkel and Donald Trump Bourdy Matt Tebbutt. We know
:15:47. > :15:49.they have a number of differences on climate change on free trade, but
:15:50. > :15:54.they are talking and they will meet again as the summit goes on. Donald
:15:55. > :15:58.Trump had come into Hamburg from Warsaw, where he gave a speech in
:15:59. > :16:01.which he said Western civilisation is stake. He also reaffirmed
:16:02. > :16:13.America's commitment to Nato. A couple of you have been messaging
:16:14. > :16:16.saying what is going on with the protest, why are people turning out?
:16:17. > :16:20.Let's turn to this issue now. We knew there would be a big protest in
:16:21. > :16:23.the past couple of hours, we knew the police would turn out and we
:16:24. > :16:27.knew almost certainly that there would be violent clashes. So it
:16:28. > :16:30.proved. These are some of the latest pictures we have. The estimate on
:16:31. > :16:36.how mini people have turned out very a lot. Some people say between
:16:37. > :16:41.5-10000 and some people say more. Wheels there are 20,000 security
:16:42. > :16:45.personnel in Hamburg, not all of them detailed to look after this
:16:46. > :16:48.protest but we know hundreds were in attendance. A load of police vans
:16:49. > :16:51.were just behind me and we saw a group of about 50 riot police
:16:52. > :16:56.heading towards a protest a little while ago. We also know pepper spray
:16:57. > :17:01.and tear gas is being used and water cannon fired from these enormous
:17:02. > :17:04.police vans have also been used, as well as surveillance drones and now
:17:05. > :17:08.and then you will hear the helicopters up above as well. BBC's
:17:09. > :17:10.Jimmy Hill is our correspondent in Germany and has been following the
:17:11. > :17:13.protest all day. -- Jenny. Police have dispersed
:17:14. > :17:16.protesters here. It all began very peacefully this
:17:17. > :17:23.afternoon, some 5000 or so people demonstrating in a square a little
:17:24. > :17:26.further down the road behind me. It suddenly turned
:17:27. > :17:32.very ugly as police in riot gear moved in to try
:17:33. > :17:34.and break the protest up. As you can see, there
:17:35. > :17:37.is still a bit of this Missiles have been thrown, they have
:17:38. > :17:48.been using water cannon, and as you can see, they are trying gradually,
:17:49. > :17:52.bit by bit, to remove the remaining protesters back
:17:53. > :17:53.further down the road. At one stage police were telling
:17:54. > :17:56.people inside what was in effect a kettle, to remove
:17:57. > :17:58.balaclavas, they had balaclavas covering their faces,
:17:59. > :18:00.which is illegal here in Germany. It looks like the police
:18:01. > :18:02.are coming towards us, trying to clear what remains
:18:03. > :18:04.of the demonstrators. It will not be easy
:18:05. > :18:07.because they have made it very As far as they are concerned,
:18:08. > :18:11.the streets of Hamburg are theirs and they
:18:12. > :18:18.want to take them back. That was recorded a little while
:18:19. > :18:23.ago. Let me show you the live pictures we have now. Riot police
:18:24. > :18:28.are on the streets, water cannon are also being used. These are hugely
:18:29. > :18:33.intimidating vehicles, which fire water at a very high pressure. Some
:18:34. > :18:36.countries don't use them. The German police do. This is just the latest
:18:37. > :18:41.in a series of clashes that have been going on two or three hours.
:18:42. > :18:48.Behind me we have had the sound of helicopters, technote, firecrackers
:18:49. > :18:54.and CS canisters ricocheting across the water behind me. Last night a
:18:55. > :18:59.protester explained to me why he was turning out at these events. And we
:19:00. > :19:01.stopped at a protester's camp in a churchyard. One man who didn't want
:19:02. > :19:05.to be identified did agree to talk. Self called leaders of the world
:19:06. > :19:08.come here and they say they want to solve problems
:19:09. > :19:16.in the world, but really it's the reason why the world
:19:17. > :19:19.is so violent, where many people Why is this system not
:19:20. > :19:29.working, do you think? The only thing that
:19:30. > :19:31.rules everything We are privileged here
:19:32. > :19:44.in the northern world. So we can lean back and say,
:19:45. > :19:47."Oh, everything is OK", but the world is not OK,
:19:48. > :19:49.I believe. One of the main protests here in
:19:50. > :19:53.Hamburg is called Welcome To Hell. Hell is already
:19:54. > :19:58.created, I would say. Hell is created, hell
:19:59. > :20:05.is the situation here. So you came today, if you recognise
:20:06. > :20:08.only what happened in the last few days here in Hamburg,
:20:09. > :20:10.or what happens worldwide, what happens in Turkey, what happens
:20:11. > :20:16.in Moscow, what happens... In the United States,
:20:17. > :20:19.for instance, for many, There will be thousands
:20:20. > :20:25.of you on the street Do you think the leaders are going
:20:26. > :20:32.to be willing to listen to you? As I said, they think, perhaps,
:20:33. > :20:47.they think they need pictures, But no, I don't think
:20:48. > :21:03.they will listen to us, and it's not my aim,
:21:04. > :21:07.not my first aim. My first aim is that people
:21:08. > :21:10.like you and me may perhaps listen and understand
:21:11. > :21:19.what's happening here. Lots of questions coming in on the
:21:20. > :21:26.G20 summit. Let's try get you some answers. A couple of people asking,
:21:27. > :21:30.what do the protesters want? It's a difficult question to ask, because
:21:31. > :21:35.there's a lot of different groups turning out. Yes, I think they are
:21:36. > :21:42.very different motives to march here in Hamburg. The demonstration of
:21:43. > :21:45.today is pretty radical, it's people who wanted to protest against the
:21:46. > :21:48.organisation. They think the world order should be different, there
:21:49. > :21:53.should be more justice in general. They think the rich countries should
:21:54. > :21:56.not host a meeting like this. It is very general protest, but there have
:21:57. > :22:06.been other marches which have been like general... We've been seeing
:22:07. > :22:09.they want better climate change. Some make a distinction between from
:22:10. > :22:14.Matt announced that they saw everyone coming to this summit as
:22:15. > :22:21.part of the same problem? Yes, in general it's a protest against
:22:22. > :22:24.capitalism. People are marching against the levels of poverty and
:22:25. > :22:28.how little is being done against poverty, climate change, all the
:22:29. > :22:32.major issues being discussed at the summit are at the heart of what
:22:33. > :22:41.people want to change much faster than the summit. One viewer would
:22:42. > :22:46.like to ask do you think the G20 will take on the issue of North
:22:47. > :22:50.Korea? Definitely. Bilateral talks, not necessarily on the G20 agenda
:22:51. > :22:57.but definitely everybody will talk about it behind doors. All the
:22:58. > :23:00.meetings between China's president and Trump, they will talk about
:23:01. > :23:05.North Korea, the issues in North Korea and so on. This speech earlier
:23:06. > :23:17.in Warsaw we heard Donald Trump talking about the dual threat of
:23:18. > :23:23.North Korea and other terror threats. My hope is that there can
:23:24. > :23:28.be back door conversations about what approach to take, because the
:23:29. > :23:32.situation is changing quickly and frightening some people. There have
:23:33. > :23:39.been talks a long time ago, and they might be an initiative to just pick
:23:40. > :23:43.up these six party talks again. Another viewer wants to ask, is
:23:44. > :23:49.there a fixed agenda? How is the G20 organise? All the papers have
:23:50. > :23:55.already said! There is an agenda. Of course... The shared powers have
:23:56. > :23:59.been meeting here already for two days to prepare well what's going on
:24:00. > :24:04.tomorrow, and the big day of the G20. But there are some light issues
:24:05. > :24:09.fixed and they have been prepared for months and years. I think they
:24:10. > :24:14.are definitely different topics which will come out, like climate
:24:15. > :24:19.change, free trade, and health. We mentioned some of the issues, let's
:24:20. > :24:24.pick up on a question here... What are the major talking point? I saw a
:24:25. > :24:28.briefing document earlier on the list was extraordinarily long, from
:24:29. > :24:32.the way the financial system in the world is operating, to tax
:24:33. > :24:35.avoidance, to women's economic empowerment. I was left feeling, how
:24:36. > :24:39.is the G20 actually going to organise all of these different
:24:40. > :24:44.issues into something that is focused? There are different groups
:24:45. > :24:46.working on that. They have been preparing for a very long time and
:24:47. > :24:50.now they are coming together and trying to put all these prepare
:24:51. > :24:56.documents and issues together and... The hard work has maybe been done
:24:57. > :24:59.before the summit starts? Of course. One last one for you, because of
:25:00. > :25:05.your connections to America and Germany. How do you think Trump,
:25:06. > :25:13.Merkel and Putin dynamic will work out? ... Will it be awkward? Yes! In
:25:14. > :25:17.terms of the relationship between Trump and Merkel, Merkel has been
:25:18. > :25:24.more explicit about her concerns on Mr Trump. Today he seemed to be
:25:25. > :25:30.friendly, he shook her hand, trying to make peace. Small steps. Thank
:25:31. > :25:34.you both very much for those. If you have more questions we will still be
:25:35. > :25:41.on air for another half an hour on Outside Source. You're very welcome
:25:42. > :25:46.to send my way. You can get me on social media. Details on screen
:25:47. > :25:50.throughout. The G20 officially begins tomorrow, but Donald Trump is
:25:51. > :25:55.here on Angela Merkel is here, many leaders are already arriving. We
:25:56. > :26:05.will keep bringing you coverage in a couple of minutes time.
:26:06. > :26:12.Good evening. The UK outlook on the way in the next half an hour but I
:26:13. > :26:14.want to take you to Japan first of all.