:00:12. > :00:21.Thank you for joining me. Our lead story is the second round of Brexit
:00:22. > :00:26.talks have begun. The UK has been outlining for key areas, including
:00:27. > :00:31.Citizen's rights. The EU is asking for more information. We need to
:00:32. > :00:37.examine and compare our respective positions in order to make good
:00:38. > :00:41.progress. Following the immigration crackdown in America, we have a
:00:42. > :00:46.special report on the families with no criminal record who are being
:00:47. > :00:50.split up in the process. California's governor is fighting to
:00:51. > :00:55.retain a tax that punishes heavy polluters. It is part of efforts to
:00:56. > :01:00.meet the terms of the Paris climate deal, even though President Trump is
:01:01. > :01:04.ticking the US out of it. We will be hearing from Roger Feder. He has
:01:05. > :01:05.been speaking to the BBC about his ambition to become number one in the
:01:06. > :01:26.world. Now, the BBC investigation into the
:01:27. > :01:30.Trump Administration's immigration crackdown. Donald Trump came to
:01:31. > :01:36.office promising to deport criminals who were in the US illegally. The
:01:37. > :01:39.panorama programme has found that thousands of undocumented immigrants
:01:40. > :01:43.without criminal records are being targeted and that families are being
:01:44. > :01:49.split apart. Hilary Andersson is the reporter on the story. These are the
:01:50. > :01:54.children. One morning in May when they were getting ready for school
:01:55. > :01:58.in their home in San Diego, border patrol officers came and arrested
:01:59. > :02:02.both of their parents. They came up to my mum and told her she was
:02:03. > :02:08.arrested and put handcuffs on her. We were shocked. We all just sat
:02:09. > :02:14.down and cried. Their parents have been living in America illegally for
:02:15. > :02:18.21 years. Border patrol initially suspected them of involvement in
:02:19. > :02:22.international human trafficking, but later dropped the accusation. The
:02:23. > :02:28.parents run a smart ice cream business and have no criminal
:02:29. > :02:32.record. The first night alone, the children all moved their beds in the
:02:33. > :02:37.same room for comfort. The older brother now does his best to run the
:02:38. > :02:42.household. The border guards knew they were leaving a teenager in
:02:43. > :02:50.charge of children. The asked me, are you Francisco? It can take care
:02:51. > :02:58.of them. The lefties here with the full family's yes. President Trump
:02:59. > :03:04.came to office on a promise to criminalise people for deportation.
:03:05. > :03:10.We have bad people here and we will get them out. In his first 100 days,
:03:11. > :03:13.41,000 illegals or suspected illegals were arrested. Most were
:03:14. > :03:18.criminals but there was a massive spike in people who were
:03:19. > :03:24.non-criminals being arrested, who are undocumented. Supporters say
:03:25. > :03:29.they are rightly enforcing the law. Nobody wants families to split. The
:03:30. > :03:33.way to ensure that is, if you are a family, is not to come to this
:03:34. > :03:39.country illegally. Sometimes the sins of the family are visited on
:03:40. > :03:46.the sand and that is unfortunate, but the Government did not create
:03:47. > :03:52.them since. They went to visit the parents and the detention centre.
:03:53. > :03:58.Their mother has been released on bail but both parents face possible
:03:59. > :04:06.deportation, as do 11 million undocumented immigrants in America.
:04:07. > :04:10.Let's bring in our correspondent. Help me understand this. Donald
:04:11. > :04:14.Trump said he would deport criminals but was he not also saying he was
:04:15. > :04:19.quick to crack down more broadly on undocumented immigrants? He said
:04:20. > :04:26.that throughout the campaign. In other interviews she, when asked
:04:27. > :04:31.when anyone who was illegal would have to go, she said yes. People at
:04:32. > :04:36.the time said this was not practical and you could not deport 15 million
:04:37. > :04:39.or whatever the number is of undocumented immigrants in the US.
:04:40. > :04:43.What we have seen is the Trump Administration at least trying to
:04:44. > :04:50.deport as many as possible, or at least arrest as many as possible
:04:51. > :04:52.anywhere in the country. The Obama administration was focusing on the
:04:53. > :04:59.border and people with criminal records. The hill on Twitter is
:05:00. > :05:04.saying Trump has the lowest approval ratings of any president in 70
:05:05. > :05:08.years. I am wary of these approval ratings because Donald Trump
:05:09. > :05:13.completely foxed the polls as well when he won last year, didn't he?
:05:14. > :05:17.Right, most of the polls had a consensus that he was going to lose
:05:18. > :05:21.the popular vote by several percentage points, which is what
:05:22. > :05:25.happened. Where the real errors were in polling, we did not think he was
:05:26. > :05:28.going to be able to rent Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. He
:05:29. > :05:34.managed to win that way. 36% approval rating is remarkably low at
:05:35. > :05:37.this point in the presidency. It does not mean anything until
:05:38. > :05:41.Republicans decide it mean something, offers holders decide it
:05:42. > :05:45.will cost them their jobs when they run for real action next year when
:05:46. > :05:49.we get to the general election in 2021 and he is trying to run for a
:05:50. > :05:53.real election. It is about whether he is liked more than his opponent
:05:54. > :05:58.and not whether he is loved over all. A quick word about health care.
:05:59. > :06:02.It is made in America week at the White House. Is there a health care
:06:03. > :06:09.week planned any time soon? At the made in America week. I do not know.
:06:10. > :06:16.Republicans keep trying to get something passed. Donald... He is
:06:17. > :06:21.out of operation for the next week or so and cannot vote, so they have
:06:22. > :06:26.pushed off any thought for the week or so or longer. That shows how
:06:27. > :06:30.narrow the edge that this report is on. One vote that they were counting
:06:31. > :06:34.on, if it does not show up, back and threw everything into chaos. As you
:06:35. > :06:40.are here, I will throw this question at you. This viewer would like to
:06:41. > :06:44.ask you, can you talk us through the impact of America having a more
:06:45. > :06:50.closed border policy, the economic impact, what are the arguments? From
:06:51. > :06:54.a business standpoint, growing up in Texas, the businesses that I lived
:06:55. > :06:58.around, the sort immigration was a boom. They thought it lowered the
:06:59. > :07:02.cost of labour and allowed them to create products more cheaply. The
:07:03. > :07:08.actually liked having immigration. If you go to someplace like midwest
:07:09. > :07:12.where blue-collar jobs, industrial jobs, were being taken by immigrant
:07:13. > :07:16.workers, they would have a very different perspective and that is
:07:17. > :07:21.that immigration was hiding them. It was driving down the wages and
:07:22. > :07:25.affecting them. Immigration can have a very specific harm for a lot of
:07:26. > :07:31.people, while generally the market is better for it. It drives down the
:07:32. > :07:34.cost of goods. If you have a job in manufacturing, and can be very
:07:35. > :07:38.painful if it is affected by immigration. We have not got you out
:07:39. > :07:44.yet. We will keep trying. If you ever have questions, we are right
:07:45. > :07:47.here in the BBC News room surrounded by experts on all of the main
:07:48. > :07:52.stories we are covering and connecting you to the BBC News rooms
:07:53. > :07:57.around the world, too. Let's talk about Roger Feder. He won Wimbledon
:07:58. > :08:00.for the eighth time. It has never been done before by a man. He has
:08:01. > :08:06.won two of the last three grand slams. He did not play in the French
:08:07. > :08:11.Open, that is 100% return. He is not the world number one. That is Andy
:08:12. > :08:16.Murray. He would like to be, though. He has been talking to the BBC. I
:08:17. > :08:23.think it is going to be a three or four weight race with me and Rafer,
:08:24. > :08:27.when Andy is going to drop his world number one ranking. If Andy wins
:08:28. > :08:32.again, we have to win again. If he starts dropping points, we will get
:08:33. > :08:37.there. I hope it is me and not Nadal. It would mean a lot for me to
:08:38. > :08:42.get back to number one. I was trying to explain, have not thought about
:08:43. > :08:46.it a lot yet. I have to speak to the team and decide how much I am going
:08:47. > :08:55.to chase it for the near future. I might get to number one 11 time in
:08:56. > :08:58.my career, or is the goal finish the year as number one. For me it makes
:08:59. > :09:02.no difference being world number one for one week or ending the year
:09:03. > :09:06.number one at this stage in my career. They have to have a meeting
:09:07. > :09:10.and discussion with my team about that in the coming weeks. Our
:09:11. > :09:20.favourite question is how long you are going to play for? You have won
:09:21. > :09:27.two grand slams since she turned 35. In the 1970s, Ken did that. Does it
:09:28. > :09:32.appeal to you the thought of putting your expertise, your experience
:09:33. > :09:36.against guys who have your age? How it feels to play against players
:09:37. > :09:46.have my age? It feels also quite different. I love the times when I
:09:47. > :09:50.came on tour and I played the people from the video games and TV and here
:09:51. > :09:54.I am thing against them. Now I am playing, I am on the opposite side.
:09:55. > :10:00.I am the guy they know from TV and now... I don't know, it is quite
:10:01. > :10:05.different. Different from what it used to be. I am enjoying myself and
:10:06. > :10:09.I like to, you know, guide them and help them along the way. If they
:10:10. > :10:13.have any advice they see, I'm happy to give because it is so important
:10:14. > :10:17.to share experience and knowledge about the game and game will always
:10:18. > :10:22.move on and always be bigger than any athlete. Am happy I can be in
:10:23. > :10:27.the sport for as long as I can delete might have been. Hopefully it
:10:28. > :10:31.will be a while. The reason he was saying I am not sure if I will go
:10:32. > :10:35.for world number one is that he missed the French Open not because
:10:36. > :10:39.of injury, but just to rest. He made the decision that a full season
:10:40. > :10:43.would be too much on his body will stop he is picking and choosing more
:10:44. > :10:48.but it is harder to be number one then. Let's talk about the women's
:10:49. > :10:53.football to an and it started yesterday in the Netherlands. Ben is
:10:54. > :10:54.helping us cover this all the way through. He has been telling me
:10:55. > :10:56.about the format. For the first time ever, 16 teams
:10:57. > :10:59.competing in the Netherlands For groups play over the next few
:11:00. > :11:05.weeks of group matches and the top The quarterfinals,
:11:06. > :11:11.semifinals and the final. Important date,
:11:12. > :11:14.Sunday six of August. How have the Dutch taken to the turn
:11:15. > :11:20.it? The Netherlands one
:11:21. > :11:26.by one goal to nill. The Dutch are getting
:11:27. > :11:39.really behind it. Here it Utrecht, which is one
:11:40. > :11:42.of seven host cities, There is a fan zone up
:11:43. > :11:48.the road from here. We were there watching
:11:49. > :11:54.at that fan zone. When that goal went in,
:11:55. > :11:57.drinks were spilt, drinks were had. I noticed on my way to work,
:11:58. > :12:11.I saw several adverts for this This is all evidence that it is
:12:12. > :12:15.getting more promotion now. And the competition is getting closer and
:12:16. > :12:20.closer. European countries are getting more competitive. Domestic
:12:21. > :12:27.league, Italy is seeing more professional clubs taking part. One
:12:28. > :12:31.team is about to start up a team. It is competitive in France and we know
:12:32. > :12:35.all about England with the women's super league. It is getting more
:12:36. > :12:39.competitive, more TV coverage and read your coverage. As that goes
:12:40. > :12:46.through the process of this to an end, the profile will just keep on
:12:47. > :12:51.rising. Cycling next. The rest day but Chris, who is in the yellow
:12:52. > :12:55.jersey was talking about yesterday. It was a dramatic stage. He lost one
:12:56. > :13:00.minute on the road before getting back to his rivals. It was a close
:13:01. > :13:07.run thing. You're geeky is talking about it. I was standing on the side
:13:08. > :13:14.of my road. -- European is talking about it. I thought that was
:13:15. > :13:18.potentially game over for me. If you go all the way to Paris, will you
:13:19. > :13:22.look back and think that was the day I did not win but I saved it. Let's
:13:23. > :13:29.get to Paris first and then I can think about that. If I just reflect
:13:30. > :13:34.on yesterday, that was a huge save. That was really touch and go if I
:13:35. > :13:38.was going to make it back. If I did not reach that front group, I do not
:13:39. > :13:44.believe I would have made it to the finish line in yellow. It has never
:13:45. > :13:49.been this close in the history of the tour. Great for us but what is
:13:50. > :13:55.it like for you? It is stressful but we knew that this year was going to
:13:56. > :13:59.be the closest fought battle I have ever done and the biggest challenge
:14:00. > :14:04.of my career to date. It is shaping up to be that. Was it more enjoyable
:14:05. > :14:08.getting the yellow jersey back than getting at in the first place? Of
:14:09. > :14:13.course it was a disappointment to lose it in the Pyrenees when I had a
:14:14. > :14:20.bad day. I am feeling better and better. Hopefully that means with
:14:21. > :14:23.time, I came in really fresh and hopefully going into the third week
:14:24. > :14:31.now, that'll put me in better shape than some of my rivals. BBC radio
:14:32. > :14:36.five live interview there. Full coverage on the sports app, five
:14:37. > :14:42.live and here on BBC News Channel and World News. In a couple of
:14:43. > :14:47.minutes time, a report to play you. It is about a memorial forest that
:14:48. > :14:52.has been planted close to Amsterdam's airport to remember
:14:53. > :15:00.those who lost their lives on the flight.
:15:01. > :15:09.All this year, Hull is celebrating being the UK City of Culture. Nine
:15:10. > :15:13.places in the city are getting listed Heritage status. Among them
:15:14. > :15:18.is the Humber Bridge. It was built in 1981. One of the most spectacular
:15:19. > :15:23.bridges in the UK. Our arts correspondent has been looking at
:15:24. > :15:29.it. The Humber Bridge. For years, the longest single span bridge in
:15:30. > :15:31.the world. Now joining Westminster Abbey, Buckingham Palace and ten
:15:32. > :15:38.Downing St as a grade one listed building. A place of architectural
:15:39. > :15:42.and historic interest. It gives me great pleasure to unveil this plaque
:15:43. > :15:49.and to clear the Humber Bridge open. The new honour comes exactly 36
:15:50. > :15:53.years to the day of the official opening. They cost more than ?100
:15:54. > :15:58.million. At the other end of the scale, something from the very year
:15:59. > :16:03.the Queen was born. This art and of all public convenience from 1926.
:16:04. > :16:08.These pilots on the Hull waterfront have been chosen because they were
:16:09. > :16:12.designed to cater for men and women, very rare at the time and most of
:16:13. > :16:21.the original fittings have been preserved. What were they like
:16:22. > :16:26.inside? It felt like they were great to listed, to be fair. Impressive?
:16:27. > :16:32.They could do with a clean, I reckon. I think it is marvellous.
:16:33. > :16:38.Hull has always been known by most people were only salesmen and
:16:39. > :16:42.relations go. Perhaps the kind of people who meet in toilets. Speaking
:16:43. > :16:47.of Philip Larkin, the house where he lived for more than 18 years and
:16:48. > :16:53.wrote some of his most famous poems. Walking around in the park should
:16:54. > :17:00.feel better than work. The lake, the sunshine, the grass to lie on. And
:17:01. > :17:05.the hope here is that Hull Vista rate will have an important role to
:17:06. > :17:10.play in its future. It did lose a lot of good buildings during the
:17:11. > :17:14.Second World War. Things are now on the up and up and people are more
:17:15. > :17:19.optimistic. This state is that we are getting from the listed
:17:20. > :17:24.buildings, grade one, is marvellous. The Humber Bridge was only designed
:17:25. > :17:37.to have a life span of 120 years but now its place in history is secured.
:17:38. > :17:45.We are live at the BBC News room. Our lead story is that the second
:17:46. > :17:49.round of Brexit Thaksin started in Brussels. Four main areas have been
:17:50. > :17:57.outlined, and dozens rights and the divorce bill. We talk an awful lot
:17:58. > :18:03.about Donald Trump ruling America out of the Paris climate deal. At
:18:04. > :18:06.the time of the announcement, several US states came out and said
:18:07. > :18:11.they are going to stick to the terms of that deal anyway. One of them is
:18:12. > :18:18.California. One of the measures it wants to use to meet those times is
:18:19. > :18:21.to extend what is called a cap and trade programme, essentially taxes
:18:22. > :18:27.businesses for putting. The man who is promoting it hard is Governor
:18:28. > :18:32.Jerry Brown. James Cook is with us from Los Angeles to tell us more
:18:33. > :18:35.about it. Hello, James. I associate California with being
:18:36. > :18:41.forward-thinking. Is there much resistance to what he is suggesting?
:18:42. > :18:44.Yes, there is some resistance and comes from both sides. Resistance
:18:45. > :18:49.from some businesses who are concerned about the impact on
:18:50. > :18:52.industry and resistance, more so in some regards, from
:18:53. > :18:57.environmentalists. Not all, some are on board but others think that too
:18:58. > :19:01.many concessions have been given to the businesses. The governor of
:19:02. > :19:05.California is trying to find the middle ground to get this bill
:19:06. > :19:11.passed in the Senate in Sacramento, the state capital and the assembly
:19:12. > :19:17.there. What is interesting is the extent to which Jerry Brown, who has
:19:18. > :19:22.been around in US politics for decades, is emerging. His state is
:19:23. > :19:26.emerging as the defect to challenge to the Trump administration when it
:19:27. > :19:29.comes to climate. Forging a completely different path. He
:19:30. > :19:34.recently travelled, Jerry Brown, to China to meet with the leadership
:19:35. > :19:38.they talk about reducing emissions and lots of other countries around
:19:39. > :19:42.the world are looking to California. At the same time, the Trump
:19:43. > :19:59.administration is pulling out of the Paris
:20:00. > :20:02.climate agreement. California, the most populous state in the United
:20:03. > :20:05.States, and the US as a whole, going in different directions. It is an
:20:06. > :20:07.irony here. I have met lots of Republican voters who have real
:20:08. > :20:09.against too much centralised power and here we have the devolution of
:20:10. > :20:12.the American response being driven by a policy of the Republican
:20:13. > :20:19.president. That is fair and a good but states rights are at the heart
:20:20. > :20:22.of what a of Republicans believe in. People are more forthcoming and
:20:23. > :20:27.forthright about those rights when it suits them than when it doesn't.
:20:28. > :20:31.Do not forget that within California, with a 30% of
:20:32. > :20:35.Californians voted for Donald Trump. A significant proportion of the
:20:36. > :20:39.state, particularly in rural parts of California, where they are fans
:20:40. > :20:44.of Mr Trump and his approach and not fans of the approach of Jerry Brown
:20:45. > :20:49.and what they would regard it an overweening, far too oppressive
:20:50. > :20:54.approach from more on the left wing. Jerry Brown would say that is
:20:55. > :20:58.nonsense and this bill is about something much wider than all of
:20:59. > :21:03.that. It is about protecting the error that Californians read and the
:21:04. > :21:08.air people outside Californians breathe outside. California wants to
:21:09. > :21:12.reduce its emissions by 40% between now and 2030. Without this bill
:21:13. > :21:16.going through, it is going to be very difficult to see how they will
:21:17. > :21:21.do that. One thing I am wondering, we are talking about how businesses
:21:22. > :21:25.pull it. You are city, where you are sitting now, has thousands and
:21:26. > :21:28.thousands of cars all driven by individuals pushing out the small
:21:29. > :21:37.bits of pollution. Our air costs been putting on the individual as
:21:38. > :21:44.well? Our costs. Not a direct sense but California has passed is a gas
:21:45. > :21:48.increased the tax on fuel to pay for increased the tax on fuel to pay for
:21:49. > :21:54.measures, to reduce carbon emissions. This is not the only
:21:55. > :22:00.measure that is being taken to try and tackle emissions in California.
:22:01. > :22:04.As you rightly say, the city has a huge measure with emissions. The
:22:05. > :22:08.smog is not as bad as it used to be, but that is still an issue. Higher
:22:09. > :22:12.taxes are not popular but they have been approved by the people of
:22:13. > :22:18.California. How interesting. James, thank you. Keep us posted, please.
:22:19. > :22:23.We are going to finish the programme with a report about a memorial
:22:24. > :22:29.forest that is being planted in an airport. That is where Malaysia
:22:30. > :22:36.flight took off three years ago. It headed for Kuala Lumpur but it did
:22:37. > :22:47.not get there. It was... Close to the border with Russia. A space full
:22:48. > :23:01.of life. Created to remember the dead. And reflect. Three years have
:23:02. > :23:06.passed. The families brought together by a loss now find comfort
:23:07. > :23:10.in each other 's presence. It means the world. I have met some people
:23:11. > :23:17.who have been through the same tragedy as I have been through. What
:23:18. > :23:23.a lovely, lovely place. It has been a lovely day. Again, lovely people.
:23:24. > :23:29.I am honoured to be a part of it. 80 children were among the 298 people
:23:30. > :23:33.killed when the flight was shot out of the sky. The joint investigation
:23:34. > :23:43.team is still gathering the evidence they hope will eventually reveal who
:23:44. > :23:47.is responsible. Their sorrow is aggravated by what they believe are
:23:48. > :23:52.deliberate attempt to muddy the waters with Miss information, pushed
:23:53. > :23:56.out of the country that could hold the most critical clues. I have
:23:57. > :24:01.never said anything derogatory about anybody. I want someone to come out
:24:02. > :24:05.and say why it happened. I do not care how it happened now. They will
:24:06. > :24:11.not bring the people back. I think it would be nice to know why.
:24:12. > :24:14.Someone to hold the hands out. All the names were read out today. There
:24:15. > :24:20.were a lot of people who struggle to read the names out, especially young
:24:21. > :24:24.children. It was tough me. I was one of the last ones to get up. The
:24:25. > :24:30.longer it went, the harder it was. I would like to think I did Liam and
:24:31. > :24:38.John justice. The pain will never go away but some peace. Tell us why.
:24:39. > :24:42.This memorial forest was designed to signify life, growth and the hope
:24:43. > :24:54.that so many of these families are still coming onto. -- clinging onto.
:24:55. > :24:56.Anna's report finishes this edition of Outside Source. Thank you for
:24:57. > :24:58.watching. We will be back tomorrow at the usual time. We will see you
:24:59. > :25:15.then. The week ahead is a story of ups and
:25:16. > :25:16.downs weather-wise and the temperature at the moment