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:00:09. > :00:10.Hello, I'm Ros Atkins, this is Outside Source.

:00:11. > :00:14.I thought we were done with the G20 - but two weeks since Hamburg it

:00:15. > :00:16.turns out Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin spent more time

:00:17. > :00:22.There they are at the meeting we knew about.

:00:23. > :00:25.We'll get into what happened a little later in the day.

:00:26. > :00:33.The White House says it was normal - not everyone agrees.

:00:34. > :00:38.It makes the president, frankly and disturbingly, not a credible in the

:00:39. > :00:40.White House response. The salaries of the BBC's

:00:41. > :00:42.top-earning stars have been revealed - and about two-thirds of those

:00:43. > :00:47.earning more than ?150,000 are men. Saudi Arabia and its allies have

:00:48. > :00:49.dropped their demands of Qatar and issued six

:00:50. > :00:54.broad principles instead. That's a climb down

:00:55. > :01:08.in most people's eyes. We will report from Nairobi. Fake

:01:09. > :01:12.news is becoming an issue in the key union election. -- in the Kenyan

:01:13. > :01:23.election. Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin met

:01:24. > :01:27.twice at the G20 summit. This picture is from

:01:28. > :01:32.Hamburg on July 7th. Now we know they also spoke again

:01:33. > :01:39.during dinner that night. The US National Security Council

:01:40. > :01:42.says it was a "pull "A conversation over dessert should

:01:43. > :01:56.not be characterised as a meeting." That is what it went on to say. We

:01:57. > :01:57.are being sucked into serious semantics.

:01:58. > :02:04.This is Ian Bremmer, who first reported the second meeting.

:02:05. > :02:10.It is certainly true that at summit meetings you have little pull asides

:02:11. > :02:18.between heads of state to discuss business all the time. When our pull

:02:19. > :02:22.aside -- a pull aside for one hour is highly unusual. A pull aside of

:02:23. > :02:27.one hour between Putin and Trump where only the Kremlin translator is

:02:28. > :02:32.there, we do not know what is discussed, given the uniqueness of

:02:33. > :02:35.the Russia/ US relationship, it makes the president, frankly and

:02:36. > :02:38.disturbingly, not credible in the White House response to this story.

:02:39. > :02:39.A senior White House official has said...

:02:40. > :02:42."The insinuation that the White House has tried to hide

:02:43. > :02:44.a second meeting is false, malicious and absurd.

:02:45. > :02:47.It is not merely perfectly normal, it is part of a president's duties,

:02:48. > :02:53."Fake news story of secret dinner with Putin is sick.

:02:54. > :02:54.All G20 leaders, and spouses, were invited

:02:55. > :03:09.We knew they were all going for dinner but we did not know until

:03:10. > :03:13.very recently that that hour or so conversation took place. Let's bring

:03:14. > :03:17.in Anthony Zurcher. I guess this is all the context of the broader

:03:18. > :03:21.Trump/ Russia story? That is how do you have to seed.

:03:22. > :03:27.During a dinner if the heads of state were to meet and chat, that is

:03:28. > :03:33.normal, nothing outside of the norms of normal diplomacy. Because the

:03:34. > :03:40.spotlight is shining so sharply on US/ Russia relations, this has been

:03:41. > :03:44.looked at suspiciously. The White House says it is a brief meeting,

:03:45. > :03:46.but if it took an hour, if they were sitting with heads of state from 18

:03:47. > :03:50.other nations and Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump were talking for an

:03:51. > :03:53.hour, for more than two hours earlier in the day, that is an

:03:54. > :03:58.interesting story. People would rightly want to know what they

:03:59. > :04:01.discussed, I think. So far we have had no indication of what the

:04:02. > :04:07.conversation was about, the White House says it was niceties but that

:04:08. > :04:11.is a long time for chit-chat. What is the protocol? If Mr Trump is a

:04:12. > :04:17.conversation with anyone for an hour, is there an obligation to fill

:04:18. > :04:20.a sin? Traditionally we will get a readout of a conversation with a

:04:21. > :04:24.foreign leader, every time Donald Trump picks up the phone, shortly

:04:25. > :04:29.thereafter there will be a statement describing what they spoke about.

:04:30. > :04:36.Rex Tillerson after the two plus our meeting at the G20 described what

:04:37. > :04:40.they discussed, lengthy rendition of every topic and Donald Trump himself

:04:41. > :04:45.talked about what they discussed. There was nothing about what

:04:46. > :04:49.happened at this dinner, no release, no information. The factory did not

:04:50. > :04:53.find out about it until after two weeks will raise suspicions about

:04:54. > :04:56.what they were talking about. It is in a public setting, there were

:04:57. > :05:02.heads of state and spouses from 18 other countries there. It could not

:05:03. > :05:04.have been too details a conversation, you would think.

:05:05. > :05:08.Stay with us, Anthony. Here's Stephen Sestanovich

:05:09. > :05:10.from the US Council "Worst result of a meeting

:05:11. > :05:15.like this: now the President thinks, 'No need to listen to others -I'm

:05:16. > :05:23.the Putin expert.'" That might be a concern but we do

:05:24. > :05:23.not know about Donald Trump's opinion.

:05:24. > :05:27.isn't keen on the two leaders being alone.

:05:28. > :05:33.Remember, he is the man who broke the story.

:05:34. > :05:36.Because the national Security adviser was not there, the Secretary

:05:37. > :05:40.of State, many people do not trust such Trump will get it right by

:05:41. > :05:44.himself, that he will get played. First of all that the Russians will

:05:45. > :05:49.have full and complete notes on the meeting and likely a tape since the

:05:50. > :05:53.translator was there, the Americans don't, which makes Trump vulnerable.

:05:54. > :05:57.Second that the Russians will get something from Trump which they

:05:58. > :05:58.otherwise should not, because you do not have Trump being properly

:05:59. > :06:07.advised by his capable team. Anthony, I don't remember anyone

:06:08. > :06:11.expressing concerns about President Obama being left in the room with

:06:12. > :06:17.anyone. Is this not just people upset that Trump is president being

:06:18. > :06:21.patronising about his ability to handle conversation? That is

:06:22. > :06:25.definitely part of it. Over the campaign, Hillary Clinton constantly

:06:26. > :06:29.questioned Donald Trump's ability to conduct foreign policy, members of

:06:30. > :06:34.the foreign policy establishment, Conservative members, signed a

:06:35. > :06:39.letter saying they did not trust Donald Trump to run US foreign

:06:40. > :06:43.policy. That second guess has continued to the first six months of

:06:44. > :06:47.his presidency. But he is the president and well within rights to

:06:48. > :06:51.sit down with the president of Russia and have a conversation if he

:06:52. > :06:55.wants over dinner. Because the spotlight is show -- so sharp,

:06:56. > :07:00.people want to know what they are talking about and there was so much

:07:01. > :07:05.controversy about possible Russian influence on the US election and

:07:06. > :07:12.possible Trump ties to Russia, the suspicion is built in and it will

:07:13. > :07:14.come up whenever there is a meeting like this, particularly one that was

:07:15. > :07:18.not disclosed immediately. Let's go to health care.

:07:19. > :07:20.After Tuesday's collapse of the Republicans' plans to do away

:07:21. > :07:23.with president Obama's health care system, he told Republican senators

:07:24. > :07:25.that he's ready to sign a bill repealing Obamacare.

:07:26. > :07:30.For seven years you promised the American people that you would

:07:31. > :07:35.repeal ObamaCare. People are hurting. Inaction is not an option.

:07:36. > :07:42.Frankly, I don't think we should leave town unless we have a health

:07:43. > :07:44.insurance plan, unless we can give our people great health care.

:07:45. > :07:49.Because we are close, we are very close.

:07:50. > :07:55.The president says inaction is not a plan but that seems to be what is

:07:56. > :08:00.happening? Just yesterday he said inaction was going to be his policy,

:08:01. > :08:06.they would let ObamaCare fall apart and well can come to the table when

:08:07. > :08:10.everything was in ruins, to come up with a new plan. That was a change

:08:11. > :08:15.from earlier when he said he wanted a straight up repeal. And before

:08:16. > :08:21.that he wanted repeal the -- and replace. There is a problem with

:08:22. > :08:25.trying to get a Republican senators on board, they have been getting

:08:26. > :08:29.mixed messages from the White House time and time again, it is difficult

:08:30. > :08:35.to pin Donald Trump down and some Republican senators are worried that

:08:36. > :08:39.if they stick with him they will -- he will change his mind again and

:08:40. > :08:43.leave them hanging to drive. There is not an infinite amount of time

:08:44. > :08:45.can be spent on health care, presumably, because every minute you

:08:46. > :08:50.spend on this you are not spending on another policy you wish to

:08:51. > :08:54.pursue? We are almost in August, they are talking about pushing back

:08:55. > :08:57.their recess but lots of things Congress has to do not a major

:08:58. > :09:02.pieces of legislation that are optional, like passing a budget,

:09:03. > :09:12.passing appropriations to fund the government, a debt limit to raise in

:09:13. > :09:14.order to continue to issue debt. They will all crowded major pieces

:09:15. > :09:17.of legislation. The more time they spent on health care than us time

:09:18. > :09:20.for tax reform. By next year, the mid-term elections will loom over

:09:21. > :09:23.all the members of Congress and they will be more worried about saving

:09:24. > :09:27.their jobs than about doing something big that could put them

:09:28. > :09:31.right in the cross hairs for any sort of controversy or dislike

:09:32. > :09:34.legislation that they had to attach their name to.

:09:35. > :09:37.Great stuff as always, Anthony. Let's talk tomorrow. This is

:09:38. > :09:40.relevant. Donald Trump was

:09:41. > :09:43.the President Elect. "In addition to winning

:09:44. > :09:45.the Electoral College in a landslide, I won the popular

:09:46. > :09:48.vote if you deduct the millions Today a commission that he set up to

:09:49. > :09:58.investigate had its first meeting - Bearing in mind there is no evidence

:09:59. > :10:03.of widespread voter fraud, but we shall see what it manages to find.

:10:04. > :10:06.During the six months Donald Trump's been in office, I've been showing

:10:07. > :10:09.you as many of his tweets as I have clips of him on camera.

:10:10. > :10:12.We look at them all the time to understand his thinking.

:10:13. > :10:17.Rajini Vaidyanathan's been taking a look at his tweets tell us.

:10:18. > :10:24.Twitter is a wonderful thing for me, I get the word out. He has been

:10:25. > :10:30.dubbed the Twitter president. We know he loves to spell things out in

:10:31. > :10:34.140 characters, but what is his online music service about the last

:10:35. > :10:39.six months of his presidency? He has sent more than 940 tweets, he

:10:40. > :10:45.is an early riser, typically sends them between 6am and 8am, an average

:10:46. > :10:50.of almost six tweets per day. That is 85 times the number of news

:10:51. > :10:54.conferences he has hosted. The two Donald Trump, that is modern-day

:10:55. > :10:59.presidential. OK, go ahead. What does President

:11:00. > :11:07.Trump tweet about the most? The highest number of tweets about the

:11:08. > :11:09.economy, on the media are not far behind. This video is his most

:11:10. > :11:13.shared tweets so far. He does not hate all media.

:11:14. > :11:18.President Trump has sent more than 70 tweets about Fox News, usually to

:11:19. > :11:24.publicise his upcoming appearances or praise the network's coverage. It

:11:25. > :11:26.is a modern-day form of communication, especially when you

:11:27. > :11:29.have tens of millions of people like I have.

:11:30. > :11:34.His tweets often sends mixed messages that even his own staff

:11:35. > :11:39.cannot decide. They speak for themselves. His comments and his

:11:40. > :11:44.tweets speak for themselves. After saying he had a great meeting with

:11:45. > :11:48.Angela Merkel, he criticised Germany's Nato contributions.

:11:49. > :11:51.And look that is messaging on China, one minute he seemed to give up on

:11:52. > :11:55.the idea of working with the country, only to tweet about an

:11:56. > :11:57.excellent meeting with China days later.

:11:58. > :12:01.President Trump recently suggested setting up a cyber Security unit

:12:02. > :12:04.with the Russians, but it did not take long for him to retract the

:12:05. > :12:07.idea. Should I keep the Twitter going on

:12:08. > :12:13.at? Many of his supporters think he

:12:14. > :12:22.should, for sure. We get it direct from him. You love the tweets?

:12:23. > :12:28.Cofevfe is a great word explanation many wish he would stop treating,

:12:29. > :12:31.including some in his own party. He has more than 33 million followers

:12:32. > :12:34.and it does not look like he will stop any time soon.

:12:35. > :12:43.We will be looking at a subject very close to Donald Trump's heart soon.

:12:44. > :12:46.The Chinese and the US are having high-level trade talks, looking at

:12:47. > :12:50.the fact that America buys an awful lot more than it sells to China. We

:12:51. > :12:52.will speak to Michelle Fleury about that.

:12:53. > :12:54.Ministers have announced plans to raise the state

:12:55. > :12:57.pension age from 67 to 68, seven years earlier

:12:58. > :13:01.Six million people will be affected by the change,

:13:02. > :13:09.The Work and Pensions Secretary David Gauke told MPs the Government

:13:10. > :13:11.wanted to meet the needs of an ageing population

:13:12. > :13:17.without placing an unfair burden on the young.

:13:18. > :13:23.This is about the Government taking responsible action in response to

:13:24. > :13:27.growing demographic and fiscal pressures. That is why today I am

:13:28. > :13:30.announcing the Government's intention to accept the key

:13:31. > :13:36.recommendation of the Cridland review and increase the state

:13:37. > :13:42.pension age from 67 to 68/2 years from 2037.

:13:43. > :13:48.This brings forward the increased by seven years from its legislated date

:13:49. > :13:51.of 2044/46 in line with the recommendation made by John Cridland

:13:52. > :13:54.and following careful consideration of the evidence on life expectancy,

:13:55. > :14:00.fairness and public finances. This is Outside Source live

:14:01. > :14:05.from the BBC newsroom. and Vladimir Putin had a second,

:14:06. > :14:09.undisclosed, meeting The White House has called

:14:10. > :14:22.it perfectly normal. Some of the main stories from BBC

:14:23. > :14:26.World Service. That will be in a moment. But now

:14:27. > :14:28.with story that has dominated discussions in the UK.

:14:29. > :14:31.It's been forced by the Government to reveal the salaries

:14:32. > :14:34.of all of its broadcasters who earn more than ?150,000.

:14:35. > :14:36.It turns out an awful lot of them are men.

:14:37. > :14:53.And those stats are just the start of it.

:14:54. > :14:58.Chris Evans earns between ?2.2 million and ?2.25 million

:14:59. > :15:00.for his Radio 2 show - and other work.

:15:01. > :15:02.The top paid female star is Claudia Winkleman.

:15:03. > :15:06.She earns between ?450,000 and ?500,000 - a lot of money,

:15:07. > :15:14.Again and again the issue of gender inequality plays out -

:15:15. > :15:17.on Radio 4, on the News at Ten, on Newsnight, on Radio five Live,

:15:18. > :15:25.on BBC Sport, on BBC Breakfast - the best paid people are men.

:15:26. > :15:27.Eight news correspondents are on the list -

:15:28. > :15:33.one, Laura Kuenssberg - is a woman.

:15:34. > :15:41."Theresa May slams the BBC for 'paying women less than men

:15:42. > :15:46.Warns the BBC that she will be watching progress."

:15:47. > :15:56.That came from the political correspondent of the Sun. The BBC

:15:57. > :15:57.says it is making progress, it takes it seriously.

:15:58. > :16:01.The BBC's Director General Tony Hall addressed the issue.

:16:02. > :16:08.What I care most about, and I think we have to get much, much better, is

:16:09. > :16:13.the gender Barents between men and women in our top talent. I think

:16:14. > :16:17.we've made a lot of progress but nowhere near where I wanted to be,

:16:18. > :16:22.by 2020 want to get to the point where it is equal between men and

:16:23. > :16:27.women on the radio channels and television programmes as well. We

:16:28. > :16:31.have made progress until the last three or four Mike Leigh years, the

:16:32. > :16:37.last three anyway, 60% of the new hires or promotions we have done

:16:38. > :16:41.have been women. You see that on the ten o'clock News, the today

:16:42. > :16:46.Programme, sometimes verges presented by women, you see that on

:16:47. > :16:51.Strictly and the new Doctor who. But we have much more to do and we are

:16:52. > :16:55.determined to get a read. Cathy Newman presents on Channel 4 News

:16:56. > :17:04.and she says in response to the disclosures... One of our stars,

:17:05. > :17:16.Jane Garvey, who presents BBC Radio 4, says...

:17:17. > :17:21.The gender pay gap is not the only part of what has been revealed that

:17:22. > :17:27.is getting a lot of attention. Out of the top 96 names, only 12 people

:17:28. > :17:30.were from a black, Asian or minority ethnic background.

:17:31. > :17:33.Several of those high earners named in these disclosures have been

:17:34. > :17:39.talking about it today. Here they are. What do I do? On

:17:40. > :17:44.paper, absolutely nothing justifies that huge amount of money, if you

:17:45. > :17:45.compare me with lots of people who do visibly... A doctor saves the

:17:46. > :17:59.life of a child or a nurse comforts a dying

:18:00. > :18:01.person. However, we operate in a

:18:02. > :18:04.marketplace. I think I provide a very useful service, somebody has to

:18:05. > :18:06.do the job of trying to hold power to account. A direct question, are

:18:07. > :18:09.you embarrassed to pick up your paycheque? I just feel very lucky

:18:10. > :18:14.every day, is the answer to that. Do you think you are overpaid? I don't

:18:15. > :18:20.even really want to answer that. I think we are the ultimate public

:18:21. > :18:21.company, therefore I think it is probably on balance right and proper

:18:22. > :18:24.that people know what we are paid. Here's the analysis

:18:25. > :18:35.of the BBC's media editor. The BBC did not want to do this,

:18:36. > :18:38.they fought a really strong fight against the Government at the time

:18:39. > :18:42.of the last charter renewal saying they should not be forced to

:18:43. > :18:46.disclose names. They said that it would be inflationary and lead to

:18:47. > :18:51.pay rises, they also said it would be a poacher 's' Charter, other

:18:52. > :18:54.broadcasters would swoop in for the top BBC talent. If that does not

:18:55. > :18:58.happen over the coming weeks a month than the Government will think that

:18:59. > :19:06.the BBC made these arguments and it turns out they are wrong, and it is

:19:07. > :19:09.visible but next year there was a transparency is good and healthy, it

:19:10. > :19:11.is flushed out some major issues to be addressed, let's have more,

:19:12. > :19:14.either lowering the threshold also people paid by independent

:19:15. > :19:19.production company should be on the list. Based on conversations I have

:19:20. > :19:23.had at the BBC, in Westminster and across the industry, I would say it

:19:24. > :19:28.is the start of a pretty long ordeal for the corporation.

:19:29. > :19:29.Much more online. Time for Outside Source business.

:19:30. > :19:32.The US and Chinese trade chiefs are meeting in Washington

:19:33. > :19:34.as we speak, as Trump's 100 day deadline for boosting trade

:19:35. > :19:42.The US buys more from China than it sells to China.

:19:43. > :19:44.Last year the imbalance in goods was $347 billion.

:19:45. > :19:51.Let's find out why that matters, Michelle Fleury is live from New

:19:52. > :19:55.York as usual. I guess I am not surprised to hear that imbalance,

:19:56. > :19:59.because the Chinese can make things at a lower cost than the Americans?

:20:00. > :20:06.And given the relative strength of the American economy, the size or

:20:07. > :20:13.importance of consumers to economic growth in America. If you look at

:20:14. > :20:17.the Trump administration they have talked about America first, at the

:20:18. > :20:21.heart of that in many ways is a focus on trade, restoring

:20:22. > :20:27.manufacturing in America, having things made in America. According to

:20:28. > :20:32.the White as it is made in America week, they have held a variety of

:20:33. > :20:36.events to highlight the fact. Against this backdrop you have the

:20:37. > :20:39.leaders of the two largest economies in the world meeting to discuss a

:20:40. > :20:45.range of issues, of course trade will be one of them. We are seeing

:20:46. > :20:50.an administration willing to focus on trade deficit, some economists

:20:51. > :20:55.disagree as to whether that is right to focus on or not. Given how

:20:56. > :21:02.important the relationship is to both leaders, they will not want to

:21:03. > :21:06.get too far into a fight over this, but issues remain.

:21:07. > :21:11.From the Chinese side, did they have concerns about that imbalance or is

:21:12. > :21:19.it a case of the bigger the balance the better? I think they are aware

:21:20. > :21:24.of the politics or optics of this and are sensitive to that. Globally

:21:25. > :21:30.China has been under pressure to do more to boost domestic consumption

:21:31. > :21:34.so it is not, as some have called it in the past, the factory to the rest

:21:35. > :21:38.of the world. Where it gets interesting is they export a small

:21:39. > :21:41.amount of steel to the United States, the commerce Department is

:21:42. > :21:46.investigating whether or not to impose tariffs, that is one

:21:47. > :21:49.potential flash point. Thank you, I hope to speak to you tomorrow.

:21:50. > :21:51.From January, businesses will be banned from charging fees

:21:52. > :21:53.on transactions made by debit and credit card.

:21:54. > :21:56.It follows a directive from the European Union to end

:21:57. > :21:59.the charges often imposed by airlines, food delivery companies

:22:00. > :22:02.For years consumers have been charged more

:22:03. > :22:08.for using their credit or debit cards.

:22:09. > :22:11.3% extra on flight B and 2% extra on Ryanair and Norwegian.

:22:12. > :22:15.Apps such as Hungry House and Just Eat will add charges.

:22:16. > :22:22.But from January such charges will be banned.

:22:23. > :22:24.It is thanks to a European directive.

:22:25. > :22:27.It is great that they will put an end to these,

:22:28. > :22:29.and not just those ones, but American Express

:22:30. > :22:33.It is further than the Government had to go so it is great

:22:34. > :22:36.It does cost companies money to process payments.

:22:37. > :22:40.5.5p for debit card payments according to 2016 figures,

:22:41. > :22:48.Up until now some companies have passed significantly higher

:22:49. > :22:50.costs on to consumers, including the DVLA, which charges

:22:51. > :22:58.77% of all retail sales in the UK are made using card,

:22:59. > :23:02.so it is the predominant way to pay, and therefore it is quite right that

:23:03. > :23:04.consumers should not be charged for the privilege of paying

:23:05. > :23:11.Surcharges will cease, but it will be open to firms

:23:12. > :23:14.to recoup the costs they incur by other means.

:23:15. > :23:22.The food sector got a little spicier today.

:23:23. > :23:24.US group McCormick Co - it makes these condiments here -

:23:25. > :23:27.is to buy the food business of British consumer goods giant

:23:28. > :23:36.Reckitt owns the French's mustard brand among many others.

:23:37. > :23:42.It's all part of McCormick's ambitions to expand globally.

:23:43. > :23:50.I will let Samir Hussein explained. When you open your fridge, is a

:23:51. > :23:55.teeming with all kinds of different condiments? Certainly our fridge at

:23:56. > :24:00.home has several kinds of hot sauces, Master 's, ketchups and lots

:24:01. > :24:06.of households are like that. That is really what McCormack is banking on,

:24:07. > :24:12.the popularity of having condiments. It is using verse $4.2 billion

:24:13. > :24:17.purchase as a way to expand their condiment empire globally. They have

:24:18. > :24:21.been looking for an international company to be able to make this kind

:24:22. > :24:27.of expansion. They approached another company and were rebuked

:24:28. > :24:31.twice, now they have found success with Reckitt.

:24:32. > :24:34.Now here is a report on how fake news is becoming a major issue in

:24:35. > :24:40.the Kenyan election campaign. It's less than 24 days before

:24:41. > :24:44.Kenyans had to the polls, and a survey released today says that fake

:24:45. > :24:53.news about the general election has been widespread. The report says 90%

:24:54. > :24:55.of Kenny 's suspect they have seen news that has been fake or

:24:56. > :24:58.inaccurate about the general election. -- 90% of Kenyans. The

:24:59. > :25:03.fake news varies from false reports about results of primary is and

:25:04. > :25:07.nominations to false reports about public figures and politicians

:25:08. > :25:11.dying. One of the most notable examples came from western Kenya,

:25:12. > :25:15.where it was reported on leaflets made to look like one of the

:25:16. > :25:23.nation's big publications that a member of the opposition had

:25:24. > :25:27.infected Dann defected to the ruling party's side. It looks like the two

:25:28. > :25:32.main reasons for producing fake news for financial or political gain.

:25:33. > :25:37.Online lots of people looking for click bait, offline they are looking

:25:38. > :25:41.to spread political propaganda. What can be done? The report authors

:25:42. > :25:45.suggest that politicians need to reaffirm the value of mainstream

:25:46. > :25:48.media and consumers need to be a lot more discerning about what they

:25:49. > :25:52.consume. In a roundabout way it might be the

:25:53. > :26:01.prevalence of fake news that makes people sit up and think about what

:26:02. > :26:02.Dann whether what they watch, see or hear is true.

:26:03. > :26:14.See you in a couple of minutes. Hello. If you have jointly over

:26:15. > :26:15.recent evenings you will know we have been majoring on the effects of