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:00:13. > :00:18.Hello, I'm Philippa Thomas and you are watching Outside Source. Terror

:00:19. > :00:22.on the streets of Barcelona as a van ploughs into a crowd in the popular

:00:23. > :00:29.tourist area of Las Ramblas. The Catalan government is at least 12

:00:30. > :00:34.are dead. He looked as if he was going from left to right, hitting

:00:35. > :00:38.people with a little stands. There were people shopping, basically, and

:00:39. > :00:42.people were screaming and running. Catalan police say this was a terror

:00:43. > :00:48.attack. With the past few minutes they say two people have been

:00:49. > :00:59.arrested. -- within the past two minutes.

:01:00. > :01:04.Welcome to Outside Source. We are continuing our live coverage of the

:01:05. > :01:09.terror attack in Spain, where a van has driven into crowds killing at

:01:10. > :01:14.least 12 or 13 people. To recap what we know, this happened in Barcelona

:01:15. > :01:18.in the north-east of Spain, and in fact, if I take you into the city,

:01:19. > :01:23.we can show you the area involved. Those of you who have been there

:01:24. > :01:28.will know that Las Ramblas is a real tourist hotspot, always very busy. A

:01:29. > :01:34.white van mounted the pavement and drove into pedestrians. We believe

:01:35. > :01:37.13 have been killed, more than 50 others injured. According to police,

:01:38. > :01:42.this is how it happened. The van entered an area at the top of the

:01:43. > :01:46.strip from the north side and careered down at speed coming to

:01:47. > :01:52.about halfway down the strip of Las Ramblas. To give you an idea of how

:01:53. > :01:57.busy this area always is, here is a picture from its just yesterday.

:01:58. > :02:01.Packed with residents and tourists. On Twitter they have confirmed they

:02:02. > :02:04.have arrested one person. They've also said that despite the reports

:02:05. > :02:10.that so frightened people in the city over the last few hours, there

:02:11. > :02:17.are no other gunmen in a bar and no hostage situation. Another fact we

:02:18. > :02:23.can bring you that -- that we can bring you - this man rented the van

:02:24. > :02:29.involved in the incident, Driss Oubakir. This has officially been

:02:30. > :02:34.named a terrorist attack. I just want to bring you some of the

:02:35. > :02:40.reaction coming in. Barack Obama, the former US president, of course -

:02:41. > :02:48.Michelle and I are thinking of the victims. Americans will always stand

:02:49. > :02:52.with our Spanish friends. The government and people of Ireland

:02:53. > :02:58.stand with the people of Barcelona. We offer sympathy, solidarity and

:02:59. > :03:02.support. Emmanuel Macron. Of course France has seen so much terror in

:03:03. > :03:08.the last few years. Solidarity with Barcelona and we stand with you. We

:03:09. > :03:11.are by your side. The Catalan government, we have referred to them

:03:12. > :03:17.already saying all of us will join together to defeat the violence.

:03:18. > :03:21.Barcelona is a city of peace. I was telling you just a minute ago that

:03:22. > :03:25.in Las Ramblas there are always foreign tourists. It is very

:03:26. > :03:31.popular, a very busy area, and the driver of the value exactly what he

:03:32. > :03:38.was doing when he there. -- the driver of the van knew exactly what

:03:39. > :03:48.he was doing. One witness told us what she saw. We were in a market

:03:49. > :03:54.which is on Las Ramblas and we were about to go back onto the Main

:03:55. > :03:58.Street. We stopped to look at some cakes in the bakery and suddenly

:03:59. > :04:02.there was screaming and hundreds of people just swarmed towards the

:04:03. > :04:08.screaming, and running and lots of confusion. We ran into the bakery

:04:09. > :04:12.and ran upstairs to hide. As we looked out the window people were

:04:13. > :04:16.still running through the market. There were hundreds and hundreds of

:04:17. > :04:20.people running through the market. Shutters were coming down. Lots of

:04:21. > :04:25.screaming and running. Then we waited a few minutes for things to

:04:26. > :04:30.come down and we were told we could go out, so we went back out into the

:04:31. > :04:35.market and a second wave hit, and we were told it wasn't safe, we had to

:04:36. > :04:40.get back inside. The police swept through the market with guns, and

:04:41. > :04:43.from where we were, we could see through the market, and there were

:04:44. > :04:48.about seven police officers with guns rounding around a doorway, and

:04:49. > :04:52.that's the point when we just hid under the table upstairs in the

:04:53. > :04:57.bakery and we just waited to hear. There was a woman waiting with us

:04:58. > :05:02.saying she had one off Las Ramblas and she had heard gunshots. We were

:05:03. > :05:06.there for about 40 minutes, I think, hiding, and then we were told it was

:05:07. > :05:12.safe to come out but we must move away from the area. I am just into

:05:13. > :05:17.bring you some more news coming in. This is very much developing. Two

:05:18. > :05:22.people have been arrested after the attack. This seems to have been

:05:23. > :05:27.related to what happened. The van going down Las Ramblas, the Catalan

:05:28. > :05:31.police confirming a driver ran into two policeman at a Barcelona

:05:32. > :05:37.checkpoint earlier on Thursday. This appeared to happen at a street

:05:38. > :05:41.nearby, a main thoroughfare, so we will learn more about that and it

:05:42. > :05:48.might be that that is how the driver was trying to get away. The Spanish

:05:49. > :05:52.Prime Minister, Mariano Rajoy con is on his way to Barcelona, and we have

:05:53. > :05:57.heard from the Russian president calling for the world to unite in an

:05:58. > :06:02.uncompromising battle against the forces of terror. That coming from

:06:03. > :06:07.the Kremlin. Something else I should tell you, although I am just going

:06:08. > :06:14.to tell you this has just popped up on the BBC Live page online.

:06:15. > :06:21.So-called Islamic State are claiming responsibility. That is a claim

:06:22. > :06:29.being made by the IS-linked news page. I'm not going to give that

:06:30. > :06:33.credibility. But no further claims of responsibility. For the time

:06:34. > :06:37.being, that's get you more from the ground about what is happening in

:06:38. > :06:43.Barcelona because the situation is not entirely calm and a lot of

:06:44. > :06:49.people, a lot of nerves on edge. Guy, can you tell us what you know

:06:50. > :06:54.about the situation now? I am in the capital, Madrid, at the moment. I

:06:55. > :06:58.have been following events from Madrid rather than in Barcelona. But

:06:59. > :07:07.what I can say is there is a great deal of confusion and we've also

:07:08. > :07:11.been hearing conflicting numbers of people killed, the injuries. We've

:07:12. > :07:17.heard from the Catalan regional premiere, who confirmed that figure

:07:18. > :07:22.of 13 killed. 80 people injured, he said. Several of those are serious.

:07:23. > :07:28.The latest reports we've heard from some media are that a suspect was

:07:29. > :07:37.killed in a shoot out with police after running over that police man

:07:38. > :07:39.in a control point. But a great deal of confusion and we are waiting for

:07:40. > :07:45.further confirmation from authorities. I just refer to a claim

:07:46. > :07:49.of responsibility that seems to have popped up possibly from the

:07:50. > :07:53.so-called Islamic State. We don't know yet but there must be a lot

:07:54. > :08:04.being said in Spain by politicians and the media about who this could

:08:05. > :08:08.have been. Yes, on the part of police there was some caution when

:08:09. > :08:13.the attack took place regarding whether it was a terrorist attack or

:08:14. > :08:18.not. They quite soon confirmed that it was. But in terms of authorship,

:08:19. > :08:25.we haven't heard any theories being spoken about by the authorities or

:08:26. > :08:28.by the police yet. I think, yes, it is important to say we don't know.

:08:29. > :08:32.The police haven't said anything about this and the government hasn't

:08:33. > :08:38.said anything about this yet. I take what you say about the fact that you

:08:39. > :08:43.are monitoring this from Madrid. I presume in Madrid 's security will

:08:44. > :08:46.be pretty tight, because with situations and events like this, you

:08:47. > :08:52.don't know whether there will be anything related unfolding. Exactly.

:08:53. > :08:58.That's right. I think even in Madrid, people have been rather

:08:59. > :09:05.nervous about events unfolding in Barcelona. In the last year or two

:09:06. > :09:10.we have seen a heavy police presence on the streets and in airports and

:09:11. > :09:14.in railway stations, particularly in the summer months, when there are

:09:15. > :09:17.lots of people out on the streets. We've seen a big armed police

:09:18. > :09:21.presence already so it seems to be something they are prepared for.

:09:22. > :09:26.Both in Madrid and Barcelona and other cities across Spain. So

:09:27. > :09:31.obviously people are nervous and they've been following the events in

:09:32. > :09:38.Barcelona is very closely. Many people here in Madrid. Thank you for

:09:39. > :09:42.bringing us up to date and monitoring the situation in Madrid

:09:43. > :09:46.for us, what is being said in Spain about this. If you are just joining

:09:47. > :09:50.us, I want to remind you of our main story. A van has driven into crowds

:09:51. > :09:56.killing 12 or 13 people in Barcelona, Spain, and injuring 50 at

:09:57. > :09:59.least. Tom Markwell is a tourist from New Orleans who had just

:10:00. > :10:05.arrived in the city when the attack began unfolding in front of him.

:10:06. > :10:13.This is what he saw. This afternoon, I came in on a flight and I was in a

:10:14. > :10:14.taxi just turning onto Las Ramblas and maybe just a block and a half

:10:15. > :10:20.from my hotel. I was just looking at the boulevard,

:10:21. > :10:23.from the back of the taxi. And then I heard this group

:10:24. > :10:26.of people scream at the same time. And you just don't think

:10:27. > :10:30.of this, naturally. And then I looked to my left,

:10:31. > :10:35.and I saw a white van with its front At first I thought it must be

:10:36. > :10:47.somebody just working and driving, Then I realised he was

:10:48. > :10:50.going entirely too fast. It looked to me as if he was

:10:51. > :10:53.going left-to-right, There were people

:10:54. > :10:56.shopping, basically. And all of a sudden people were just

:10:57. > :10:59.screaming and running. We knew immediately,

:11:00. > :11:06.you know, naturally, what was happening and what was

:11:07. > :11:09.going on at that moment. And my taxi driver just started

:11:10. > :11:14.saying, oh my God, oh my God. And then we just turned

:11:15. > :11:25.right around the corner, And then everyone was running

:11:26. > :11:33.into any space, of course, And they were coming

:11:34. > :11:40.into the hotel and screaming. Interestingly, I turned around

:11:41. > :11:42.and they were starting And that was when the hotel staff

:11:43. > :11:46.put me behind the front They got all of us

:11:47. > :12:04.together into a ballroom, just in the entrance

:12:05. > :12:06.of the hotel, which to me didn't feel safe at all because

:12:07. > :12:09.there was really no... There was nobody armed

:12:10. > :12:11.to protect the room of people. And for better or for worse,

:12:12. > :12:14.I left the room and I said, They gave me a key

:12:15. > :12:18.and I came upstairs. I figured I would rather be one

:12:19. > :12:21.person in hundreds of rooms As I can see everybody

:12:22. > :12:28.across at the other hotel, everybody is just watching out

:12:29. > :12:40.of their window, watching, what now? Tom Markwell, one of those witnesses

:12:41. > :12:45.who gave us his time and account of what happened. You can hear the

:12:46. > :12:49.shakiness in his voice there, and no wonder. With me again our

:12:50. > :12:52.correspondent Tom Burridge. You are staying on top of this story and the

:12:53. > :12:56.figures are changing. What is the latest? There are two different

:12:57. > :13:02.figures for the number of people who have died. It is either 12 or 13

:13:03. > :13:08.people dead. I think the latest figure seems to be 12. That is the

:13:09. > :13:11.one most Spanish news sources are giving and that comes from the

:13:12. > :13:19.Catalan government in the last hour or so. And some injured, some

:13:20. > :13:24.seriously? Yes, it can be anybody affected, so some traumatised in the

:13:25. > :13:28.area. They are talking about 80 people in hospital injured and 15 of

:13:29. > :13:31.those in a very serious condition. I've seen a couple of videos which

:13:32. > :13:37.have been sent from journalist colleagues in Spain, too graphic to

:13:38. > :13:40.show. It is really, really shocking what has happened. A lot of people

:13:41. > :13:45.clearly seriously injured. Including some children. So it is an

:13:46. > :13:53.absolutely horrible scene. Going onto the investigation, at the

:13:54. > :13:57.moment, Mossos, that is the Catalan police force, they have tweeted and

:13:58. > :14:04.confirmed this line is that a driver ran down two Mossos police officers

:14:05. > :14:09.at a police control in Barcelona. We believe that was on Diagonal, and

:14:10. > :14:15.they are saying that seem to be the case. They then located the suspect,

:14:16. > :14:19.the driver of that vehicle, in Sant Just Desvern, which is just west of

:14:20. > :14:24.the city, a couple of kilometres outside of Barcelona, and according

:14:25. > :14:27.to lots of reports on the Spanish media, trustworthy sources, there

:14:28. > :14:34.was a shoot out and one suspect has been killed. Aside from that, there

:14:35. > :14:37.are two people, coming from official information, this, coming from

:14:38. > :14:42.police custody, one of them being the man who rented the fan who ran

:14:43. > :14:49.people down on that area so popular with tourists in central Barcelona,

:14:50. > :14:53.Las Ramblas. -- who rented the van. So the running on police and the

:14:54. > :15:03.shoot out, it is not necessarily the case this was the van or the driver

:15:04. > :15:06.who shot down... We just don't know. There are reports of the van driver

:15:07. > :15:11.fleeing the scene on foot. Then there were these very confusing

:15:12. > :15:18.reports which have definitely been ruled out now about people held up

:15:19. > :15:24.in a bar, but that information seems to be incorrect. But a vehicle after

:15:25. > :15:27.the incident, possibly a few hours as a rough time scale, went through

:15:28. > :15:32.a police control, police followed the vehicle to the edge of Barcelona

:15:33. > :15:38.and there was a shoot out and the police are saying one suspect has

:15:39. > :15:42.definitely been killed. So one van involved or two vehicles. You have

:15:43. > :15:48.also been following what has been happening in Vic. We should treat

:15:49. > :15:53.this with a lot of caution at the moment but coming from a fairly

:15:54. > :15:57.decent source, the mayor of the town. It is about ten climate is

:15:58. > :16:04.outside of Barcelona and a fairly quiet place on an average day. --

:16:05. > :16:09.ten kilometres. According to the mayor it is being considered as part

:16:10. > :16:13.of the investigation for now. As time goes on, it could be that is

:16:14. > :16:19.ruled out because at this stage, the police are inevitably following

:16:20. > :16:26.every single reed and taking nothing for granted and taking no chances.

:16:27. > :16:30.Barcelona, we're hearing some Spanish journalists on the ground,

:16:31. > :16:33.Spanish radio, the city is really in lockdown and there is a heavy police

:16:34. > :16:39.presence, a lot of police controls and nervousness. Tourists and locals

:16:40. > :16:46.across the city in bars devastated about what has happened. There is

:16:47. > :16:49.going to be a minute's silence in Plaza Catalunya, just up from Las

:16:50. > :16:56.Ramblas, at 12pm local time tomorrow. The Mayoress has come out

:16:57. > :16:58.saying people should not be scared tomorrow. The people of Barcelona

:16:59. > :17:02.need to go back on the streets and show these people we are not scared.

:17:03. > :17:09.That was the message coming from adder call-out, the mayor of

:17:10. > :17:17.Barcelona. -- from Ada Colau. I know you will keep trying to draw the

:17:18. > :17:20.links for us. We are going to be completely clear about what we know

:17:21. > :17:24.and what we don't know and are trying to establish. We will bring

:17:25. > :17:27.you any breaking news lines from Barcelona. But also I will bring you

:17:28. > :17:31.other news from around the world. Police in the Philippines say they

:17:32. > :17:37.have killed another 26 suspected drug dealers and arrested dozens

:17:38. > :17:40.more and operations ordered by the president. The latest deaths mean at

:17:41. > :17:42.least 58 have been killed in the past three days as the country's war

:17:43. > :17:56.on drugs intensifies. One Knight, 26 dead. The war on

:17:57. > :18:02.drugs is back with a vengeance. As so often before, the police say they

:18:03. > :18:08.fired in self-defence. TRANSLATION: As we arrived, two men

:18:09. > :18:15.shot at and fought our officers. That's why they were killed. The

:18:16. > :18:18.police are calling this a one-time big-time anti-drugs and crime

:18:19. > :18:24.operation. Another like it the night before killed 32 people. As before,

:18:25. > :18:30.these killings occurred in poor neighbourhoods. The focus of the

:18:31. > :18:34.drug war from its start. The president was forced to suspend the

:18:35. > :18:38.campaign back in February after police officers were found to have

:18:39. > :18:47.murdered a Korean businessman. But he offered no apology for restarting

:18:48. > :18:53.it. TRANSLATION: 32 died. That's good.

:18:54. > :19:02.If we could kill 32 every day, maybe we could fix this country. When he

:19:03. > :19:06.launched his drugs war last year, the president promised to end the

:19:07. > :19:12.problem within 35 and six months. He now says he was over asked --

:19:13. > :19:19.overoptimistic. -- within three to six months. Even past the deadline,

:19:20. > :19:23.the killing goes on. And back to our main story. We are

:19:24. > :19:28.going to keep you updated with everything that is coming out of

:19:29. > :19:33.Barcelona, where we are now seeing 13 people have been killed, 50

:19:34. > :19:37.injured with a van ploughing through crowds of residents and tourists on

:19:38. > :19:42.Las Ramblas, that very popular area for residents and tourists in the

:19:43. > :19:47.heart of Barcelona. A lot of reaction coming from around the

:19:48. > :19:52.world. Just remind you, from the new president of France, Emmanuel

:19:53. > :19:57.Macron, with the French having suffered from terror attacks so much

:19:58. > :20:06.over the last few years. He says, solidarity with Barcelona. Barack

:20:07. > :20:10.Obama saying, Michelle and I thinking of the victims and their

:20:11. > :20:15.families. We will always stand with our Spanish friends. The current

:20:16. > :20:18.first Lady was very quick to say, our thoughts and prayers are with

:20:19. > :20:23.the people of Barcelona. Just to remind you what is happening

:20:24. > :20:29.there now. Still big security operations and a lot of fear on the

:20:30. > :20:36.ground. I've been talking to a correspondent from BBC Persia. The

:20:37. > :20:41.crowds were being directed out of this area up until maybe ten minutes

:20:42. > :20:46.ago. It just shows what a massive population was in that area,

:20:47. > :20:50.because, as we know, it is one of the most visited parts of Barcelona.

:20:51. > :20:55.Panic still continues to be the mood because a few minutes ago, a crowd

:20:56. > :20:59.got scared of something, we don't know what, and they started running,

:21:00. > :21:03.and behind there were police officers with guns just right behind

:21:04. > :21:07.me, following and chasing as if there was somebody in that crowd

:21:08. > :21:10.that they wanted to rest. Then everybody dissipated and wasn't

:21:11. > :21:16.clear where it all started. It just gives you a sense of how worried the

:21:17. > :21:20.population is. You know, how word gets out something is happening and

:21:21. > :21:27.it might be a mistake, but it creates panic. So there are choppers

:21:28. > :21:31.overhead in the last few hours, and, as you said, right behind here is

:21:32. > :21:36.the centre of where it all happened and there are images of police with

:21:37. > :21:40.big guns, long guns, going from street to street, especially in the

:21:41. > :21:47.old part of Barcelona, which is the other end of Las Ramblas, and

:21:48. > :21:50.chasing people and making sure every house and restaurant, making sure

:21:51. > :21:54.the person they are chasing is not there, and continuing the search. We

:21:55. > :21:58.now have reports at least one has been arrested and that one has been

:21:59. > :22:03.killed. It is not clear if this is the case. Nevertheless, the city of

:22:04. > :22:07.Barcelona, where I was seven hours ago, the place where the attack

:22:08. > :22:10.happened, has changed drastically in the last few hours, and it is just

:22:11. > :22:14.panic with many people waiting to see where it will all wrapped up,

:22:15. > :22:19.when it will all wrapped up, so they can go back to normal. Many cannot

:22:20. > :22:25.go back to their hotels because it is in a cordoned area. Many hotels

:22:26. > :22:27.are in Las Ramblas and on the boulevard where this happened, so

:22:28. > :22:33.it's affecting many tourists as well. It is ongoing with the

:22:34. > :22:39.investigation and the area that has been cordoned off for crowds. As you

:22:40. > :22:43.have been talking, I've heard the sirens and seen the blue flashing

:22:44. > :22:48.lights going by. We only have one name so far from the police, Driss

:22:49. > :22:52.Oubakir, who they say rented the van involved, but just remind us, in the

:22:53. > :22:56.last few hours, many in the city have been frightened because there

:22:57. > :23:03.were rumours about gun men, about a possible hostage. Many. In fact,

:23:04. > :23:07.many said hostage crisis was happening in a restaurant and it is

:23:08. > :23:12.ongoing and they have big guns, two of them. None of this has turned out

:23:13. > :23:16.to be true. So as you can imagine, a situation like this, not just word

:23:17. > :23:20.of mouth but on social media, things get out and they are not true and

:23:21. > :23:25.they are unconfirmed and it creates more fear in the population and you

:23:26. > :23:32.couple that with the pictures that were released and many have seen

:23:33. > :23:38.them. Very horrifying images of people on the ground bleeding, some

:23:39. > :23:40.seemed to be unconscious. Exactly in the middle of Las Ramblas, where

:23:41. > :23:47.thousands of people walk by, they know this spot, so that adds to the

:23:48. > :23:50.feeling and the reality that this might be an ongoing situation. It

:23:51. > :23:54.hasn't ended and there's the possibility of something else

:23:55. > :23:57.happening, hence this crowd that just ran across the street a few

:23:58. > :24:01.minutes ago very much panicked, not knowing why they were running but

:24:02. > :24:08.they were running because somebody said something and everybody

:24:09. > :24:11.followed. Our correspondent speaking to us from the scene on the edge of

:24:12. > :24:15.Las Ramblas. In the next edition of Outside

:24:16. > :24:19.Source, we are going to look at the security implications of who could

:24:20. > :24:23.have been behind this. Counterterrorism strategy now. Tom

:24:24. > :24:28.Burridge, who is checking everything out, checking Spanish radio for us

:24:29. > :24:32.as we go through, because as I said, there is a lot of talk on Spanish

:24:33. > :24:36.media about the one man who has been named, Driss Oubakir, the man who

:24:37. > :24:41.rented the van that tore down Las Ramblas. He is in his 20s and was

:24:42. > :24:45.born in Morocco. There are reports of previous activities he could have

:24:46. > :24:49.been linked with -- linked with and we will try to flush that out. We

:24:50. > :24:58.will be talking with a security expert as well. -- we will try to

:24:59. > :25:02.expand that. One Belgian national is among the dead, according to the

:25:03. > :25:07.country's Foreign Minister. We also know two people have been arrested,

:25:08. > :25:11.according to the Catalan head. We will bring you all the key facts,

:25:12. > :25:15.tell you what we know and what we are still trying to piece together.

:25:16. > :25:16.Join us for the next edition of Outside Source in just a few

:25:17. > :25:19.minutes.