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0:00:07 > 0:00:09Hello, I'm Ros Atkins, this is Outside Source.

0:00:09 > 0:00:14Rupert Murdoch's media empire has just got a lot smaller.

0:00:14 > 0:00:16Walt Disney's has got much bigger.

0:00:16 > 0:00:21It's spending over $50 bilion on most of 21st Century Fox.

0:00:21 > 0:00:26Here's why.

0:00:26 > 0:00:31After some musing, there seemed to me there might

0:00:31 > 0:00:33After some musing, there seemed to me there might be an opportunity to

0:00:33 > 0:00:35put our companies together and create something that's even better

0:00:35 > 0:00:39than the two that was separate companies.

0:00:39 > 0:00:44Theresa May attends a crucial Brexit summit in Brussels saying she's

0:00:44 > 0:00:45disappointed after last night's parliamentary defeat.

0:00:45 > 0:00:48A huge development for internet users in the US -

0:00:48 > 0:00:50net neutrality is coming to an end.

0:00:50 > 0:00:54Good for business or bad for equal world depending on who you ask.

0:00:54 > 0:00:57And remember Hurricane Harvey that battered Texas?

0:00:57 > 0:01:01Well guess how much water it actually produced...

0:01:01 > 0:01:03We'll reveal all from that from a major scientific

0:01:03 > 0:01:13gathering in New Orleans.

0:01:22 > 0:01:24For more than 50 years Rupert Murdoch's media

0:01:24 > 0:01:27empire has got bigger - today all that changed.

0:01:27 > 0:01:30Walt Disney, led by Bob Iger, is buying the bulk of

0:01:30 > 0:01:33Mr Murdoch's 21st Century Fox.

0:01:33 > 0:01:38The price is $52.4 billion.

0:01:38 > 0:01:42For that Disney gets a 39% stake in Sky

0:01:42 > 0:01:46and 20th Century Fox film studio.

0:01:46 > 0:01:48Not everything's included.

0:01:48 > 0:01:52Fox News and Fox Sports aren't, they'll become a new company.

0:01:52 > 0:02:02Here's Bob Iger on how the deal got done.

0:02:02 > 0:02:07I had a lot of respect for Rupert Murdoch and what he was able to

0:02:07 > 0:02:13build over the years. He and I would musing about the industry and the

0:02:13 > 0:02:18need to reach consumers in the way I described and the disruptive forces

0:02:18 > 0:02:22we broke witnessed in our time in this business. After some musing it

0:02:22 > 0:02:26seemed to me there might be an opportunity to put our companies

0:02:26 > 0:02:32together and create something that even bigger than the two that was

0:02:32 > 0:02:33separate companies.

0:02:33 > 0:02:36Next the BBC's Media Editor Amol Rajan, on why the timing is right

0:02:36 > 0:02:40for Disney and Rupert Murdoch.

0:02:40 > 0:02:46There is a revolution going on in media where people want to watch

0:02:46 > 0:02:52something at a specific time in a specific place. You can watch where

0:02:52 > 0:02:55you like, when you like and pretty much what you like. Disney say they

0:02:55 > 0:03:00want even more eyeballs, more content and scale if we want to

0:03:00 > 0:03:09compete with the big players, apple, Netflix, Amazon and Google. As he

0:03:09 > 0:03:12would say, it is a humble day in what has been a not very humble

0:03:12 > 0:03:13life.

0:03:13 > 0:03:16As you heard from Amol there, Disney wants to be able to allow

0:03:16 > 0:03:18people to watch what they want, when they want.

0:03:18 > 0:03:24This is Fox's on demand Hulu service.

0:03:24 > 0:03:28You can see it saying here, all your TV in one place.

0:03:28 > 0:03:30It was a huge reason this deal happened.

0:03:30 > 0:03:31Disney wants it to take on Netflix.

0:03:31 > 0:03:36Perhaps Disney's decision is easier to understand than Rupert Murdoch's.

0:03:36 > 0:03:38Andrew Neil is a top BBC News presenter.

0:03:38 > 0:03:41Andrew's also edited Mr Murdoch's Sunday Times

0:03:41 > 0:03:43and he helped him to set up Sky Television.

0:03:43 > 0:03:51Here's his reaction.

0:03:51 > 0:03:57The deal is remarkable because it represents the end of Rupert

0:03:57 > 0:04:00Murdoch's quest to build a Murdoch dynasty. He has been trying to do

0:04:00 > 0:04:04that for 40 years. I used to sit with him in restaurants in London in

0:04:04 > 0:04:10the mid-19 80s and he talked about a Murdoch dynasty, putting his

0:04:10 > 0:04:15children into key positions. Letting them fight for the top position and

0:04:15 > 0:04:20whoever wins would take over and the Murdoch men would go on for ever.

0:04:20 > 0:04:25Here, he is unbundling the Empire and the dynastic ambitions have

0:04:25 > 0:04:32gone.Here is a perspective from the US.

0:04:32 > 0:04:36I don't think you will see any media change, but what's clear is

0:04:36 > 0:04:43consumers are going to have expanded options. Having two of the Premier

0:04:43 > 0:04:48collections of assets that will be available to them. I think this is

0:04:48 > 0:04:54all about adapting to help consumers are accessing content, going away

0:04:54 > 0:04:59from traditional to margin platforms. I think Disney will be in

0:04:59 > 0:05:04one of the best position is ever to be able to adapt, provide consumers

0:05:04 > 0:05:08with expanded choices and potentially at cheaper prices

0:05:08 > 0:05:12because it is all about going from the bundle to the cheaper

0:05:12 > 0:05:15alternatives and this is what Netflix and others have been doing

0:05:15 > 0:05:19so well.It is a measure of the influence number power of Netflix

0:05:19 > 0:05:27and Amazon and a different degree, Facebook that these two giants have

0:05:27 > 0:05:32decided to join forces?That is exactly right. It is all about scale

0:05:32 > 0:05:36and the ships in the media landscape being so fast that companies like

0:05:36 > 0:05:43Disney are forced to adapt. You are forced to think about the leveraged

0:05:43 > 0:05:53you can have. Whether it is the distributors distributing the

0:05:53 > 0:05:56content, or the Internet companies aggregating the content. What you

0:05:56 > 0:06:01have here is a plague that the scale. The big EU gets, the more you

0:06:01 > 0:06:06are able spend on content across a host of platforms and Disney is the

0:06:06 > 0:06:12best at doing that in the entire industry.The practicalities, how

0:06:12 > 0:06:16long does it take for a deal like this to get approved and to go

0:06:16 > 0:06:25through?Companies have talked about 12 to 18 months, but the one factor

0:06:25 > 0:06:30that is out there is how the BSkyB deal will be approved. They are

0:06:30 > 0:06:34talking about the first half of next year. This deal doesn't depend on

0:06:34 > 0:06:40but approval, but I suspect the regulator in the US industry will be

0:06:40 > 0:06:49scrutinising very closely to have two very large studios combine with

0:06:49 > 0:06:54sports from Fox and I believe this deal has a decent chance of passing

0:06:54 > 0:07:01the regulatory process with conditions attached.

0:07:01 > 0:07:04The pace of the Brexit story is quite something.

0:07:04 > 0:07:07Last week, we had that deal to take the talks to the next phase.

0:07:07 > 0:07:10Last night, Theresa May was defeated in a key Brexit vote in Westminster,

0:07:10 > 0:07:12because of a rebellion in her own party.

0:07:12 > 0:07:15Now the Prime Minister is in Brussels for a working dinner.

0:07:15 > 0:07:16According to a senior government official,

0:07:16 > 0:07:20she will tell EU leaders "That reaching the agreement on phase one

0:07:20 > 0:07:23has required give and take on both sides but a fair outcome has been

0:07:23 > 0:07:31achieved" and will urge them to rubber stamp the deal.

0:07:31 > 0:07:41That will almost certainly happen tomorrow.

0:07:43 > 0:07:45Allowing talks to move on importantly to trade.

0:07:45 > 0:07:50Which both sides want, according to Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte.

0:07:50 > 0:07:54What is necessary is we put the handshake of last Friday into

0:07:54 > 0:08:01legally binding text. And into Article 50 text as soon as possible

0:08:01 > 0:08:04on the exit bill and the border issue.

0:08:04 > 0:08:06The Prime Minister's authority took a hit in the House

0:08:06 > 0:08:07of Commons last night.

0:08:07 > 0:08:09She's opposed an amendment that requires full parliamentary

0:08:09 > 0:08:12scrutiny of the final Brexit deal, but it got through with the help

0:08:12 > 0:08:14of rebels from her own party.

0:08:14 > 0:08:23If you ask Jeremy Corbyn, he will say it is a humiliating loss. Ask

0:08:23 > 0:08:30the Prime Minister, you get a different answer.

0:08:30 > 0:08:36We have 135 out of 36 votes on the EU withdrawal bill and it is making

0:08:36 > 0:08:38good progress in the House of Commons and that means we are on

0:08:38 > 0:08:44course to deliver, as according to the vote of the British people, to

0:08:44 > 0:08:46leave the European Union.

0:08:46 > 0:08:49What we can agree on is that this amendment applies yet more time

0:08:49 > 0:08:50pressure on these talks.

0:08:50 > 0:08:52Britain will leave the EU in March 2019.

0:08:52 > 0:08:55That means a deal needs to be ready by Autumn of next year.

0:08:55 > 0:09:00That's because it'll come under scrutiny from not

0:09:00 > 0:09:02just the UK parliament, but also the 27 other national

0:09:02 > 0:09:05parliaments in the EU.

0:09:05 > 0:09:06As I say time is tight.

0:09:06 > 0:09:12Don't take my word for it, this is Luxembourg's Prime Minister.

0:09:12 > 0:09:20It is the second time UK citizens want a vote, the referendum and now

0:09:20 > 0:09:26a true vote in Westminster to decide the agenda of the European Union.

0:09:26 > 0:09:31This isn't good for Theresa May because the agenda will not move.

0:09:31 > 0:09:34Soon as she negotiate something she will have to go back to London to

0:09:34 > 0:09:38get approval from the Parliament and this is not making her life easier.

0:09:38 > 0:09:44It just makes it complicated for the UK Government.We will be live in

0:09:44 > 0:09:48Brussels in a moment.

0:09:48 > 0:09:51A number of ways to get analysis of what's happening from the BBC.

0:09:51 > 0:09:54One is to download the Brexitcast podcast, which is in danger

0:09:54 > 0:09:55of becoming a runaway success.

0:09:55 > 0:09:58One of the most popular audio podcasts in the UK now.

0:09:58 > 0:10:00Latest one has just been uploaded, features Tim Shipman,

0:10:00 > 0:10:01political editor of the Sunday Times.

0:10:01 > 0:10:05We can talk to Kevin Connolly, in Brussels.

0:10:05 > 0:10:10Kevin, we were in touch earlier because you sent a useful briefing

0:10:10 > 0:10:15note about how we should mention trade in the context of phase two.

0:10:15 > 0:10:22Perhaps you could share your advice with our viewers?I will spare them

0:10:22 > 0:10:26the details, but it is an interesting point. Because

0:10:26 > 0:10:31everything now is about what happens in phase two. Phase one, everyone

0:10:31 > 0:10:35agrees is pretty much over. We just need to get back confirmed tomorrow,

0:10:35 > 0:10:41but we know what will happen. They will have been deemed to have passed

0:10:41 > 0:10:45the point of sufficient progress. Do trade talks begin immediately? We

0:10:45 > 0:10:51don't think they do. First, there is a period of transition talks which

0:10:51 > 0:10:55is about creating a two-year cushion immediately after Brexit soap

0:10:55 > 0:11:00written doesn't crash out when it ceases to be a full member of the

0:11:00 > 0:11:06EU. In parallel, you have to talk about future issues. Technically,

0:11:06 > 0:11:11legally, you can only have trade talks with somebody who is a third

0:11:11 > 0:11:16party. Next year, the UK will be in the area peen union but will want to

0:11:16 > 0:11:20talk about trade. We think it should be called talks about a future

0:11:20 > 0:11:25relationship. Part of that wonky, legalistic reason, but also because

0:11:25 > 0:11:31Theresa May will use the argument that this is so much more than trade

0:11:31 > 0:11:36and money. It will be about defence and security cooperation. They are

0:11:36 > 0:11:41areas the UK feels it has very strong cards to play in the future

0:11:41 > 0:11:44conversation. He will have to look at the future relationship in the

0:11:44 > 0:11:50round. Certainly trade of course, but other stuff as well and no trade

0:11:50 > 0:11:56deal between the EU and the UK into the UK is, what's known in

0:11:56 > 0:11:59international legal tarns, is a third party, a separate entity.It

0:11:59 > 0:12:06was interesting listening to the premise of Luxembourg and their

0:12:06 > 0:12:11concern about the defeat in the Commons last night and Theresa May's

0:12:11 > 0:12:15ability to sell any deal from Brussels to those in Westminster.

0:12:15 > 0:12:22They almost look to help her out at times, in this situation?That has

0:12:22 > 0:12:27been the noteworthy thing. A lot of the time, in the British media and

0:12:27 > 0:12:31in British politics, the relationship between London and

0:12:31 > 0:12:35Brussels is pitched in adversarial terms. But the last couple of weeks,

0:12:35 > 0:12:40quite a lot of senior European politicians have sounded strikingly

0:12:40 > 0:12:51supportive of Theresa May. That is because they are worried if she were

0:12:51 > 0:12:53to wobble or leave office, the whole business of Brexit would be reset to

0:12:53 > 0:12:56zero and there would be no chance on getting it done on time. So there

0:12:56 > 0:13:00are practical reasons from the European point of view to support

0:13:00 > 0:13:03Theresa May. Some politicians look at that result in Westminster last

0:13:03 > 0:13:09night and worry. But the Irish Prime Minister, he said Aida minority

0:13:09 > 0:13:11government, everybody knows Parliament will be difficult. People

0:13:11 > 0:13:18are aware of the tight arithmetic at Westminster. Some are inclined to

0:13:18 > 0:13:22think it is the rough and tumble politics and things can work out OK.

0:13:22 > 0:13:29That is the view of Theresa May herself.A quick word about Phase

0:13:29 > 0:13:38one, that continues?Yes, what we are saying on those celebrated Phase

0:13:38 > 0:13:43one issues, the Irish border, Citizens rights and a financial

0:13:43 > 0:13:45settlement, sufficient progress has been made to allow the talks to go

0:13:45 > 0:13:51on. It doesn't mean they fixed finalise, but plenty of talking

0:13:51 > 0:13:55about all of those issues and the Irish border, not the first time the

0:13:55 > 0:14:01Irish question has been a big issue in politics, but the Irish border,

0:14:01 > 0:14:12as always, will take some fixing. Kevin, thank you.

0:14:12 > 0:14:14Let's turn back to the US.

0:14:14 > 0:14:16If you use the internet, there's been a moment of the utmost

0:14:17 > 0:14:18significance in the US.

0:14:18 > 0:14:19Regulators are changing the rules that control how

0:14:20 > 0:14:21the internet is provided.

0:14:21 > 0:14:22This is the issue known as net neutrality.

0:14:22 > 0:14:28At its heart is the principle that companies like Comcast

0:14:28 > 0:14:31and Verizon in the US, or BT and Sky in the UK - must treat

0:14:31 > 0:14:32all internet traffic equally.

0:14:32 > 0:14:35So companies can't pay for their websites or services to be faster.

0:14:35 > 0:14:38And there's been a major campaign to keep things that way.

0:14:38 > 0:14:42This is an open letter to the US regulator.

0:14:42 > 0:14:46It was signed by guys like Vint Cerf and Sir Tim Berners-Lee who helped

0:14:46 > 0:14:48create the internet.

0:14:48 > 0:14:52Along with big names like Apple's co-founder Steve Wozniak.

0:14:52 > 0:14:54But the chairman of the Federal Communications Commission,

0:14:55 > 0:14:57this man Ajit Pai, is not convinced.

0:14:57 > 0:15:05He says removing government regulation will boost innovation.

0:15:05 > 0:15:07He's also said "the hysteria has reached a pitch which is completely

0:15:07 > 0:15:10disproportionate to the facts."

0:15:10 > 0:15:18Yogita Limaye has the latest from Washington.

0:15:18 > 0:15:24Just a couple of hours ago in the building behind me, there was a vote

0:15:24 > 0:15:30and three people were for repealing these rules and two people against.

0:15:30 > 0:15:34What has happened is regulation which ensured Internet service

0:15:34 > 0:15:38providers in America could not charge different prices for

0:15:38 > 0:15:42different websites, but regulation has been removed. This is not a rule

0:15:42 > 0:15:46that needs to be passed by Congress, said it could come into effect. But

0:15:46 > 0:15:50we have had protesters outside this building all day and many groups

0:15:50 > 0:15:54have said they will go to court against this decision and try to

0:15:54 > 0:15:59stall it. Essentially, what can happen from now on, and Internet

0:15:59 > 0:16:03service provider could go to a web-based business and pay them a

0:16:03 > 0:16:07certain amount of money so they could provide that particular

0:16:07 > 0:16:12website or that particular service at a faster speed. And those who

0:16:12 > 0:16:16refuse to pay them, that service could be provided at a slower speed.

0:16:16 > 0:16:22As part daily-macro far as the customer is concerned, we will give

0:16:22 > 0:16:26you this website for a particular price. If you want more, you have to

0:16:26 > 0:16:32pay more. That is what could happen. But Internet service providers here

0:16:32 > 0:16:36in America, these companies have said they are not against the

0:16:36 > 0:16:40principles of net neutrality, but they are not inclined to slow down

0:16:40 > 0:16:46access to a website or deny access to it completely, they say what has

0:16:46 > 0:16:49happened, the regulations that have been removed will help them invest

0:16:49 > 0:16:54more in the sector and help them connect to roll roll and more remote

0:16:54 > 0:16:55parts of America.

0:16:55 > 0:17:00Stay with us on Outside Source, still to come:

0:17:00 > 0:17:04We will be at a major scientific gathering that has been calculating

0:17:04 > 0:17:10how much rain fell during hurricane Harvey in Texas and what it tells us

0:17:10 > 0:17:14about the changing weather in our world.

0:17:14 > 0:17:17The Scottish Government has said it's going to raise

0:17:17 > 0:17:21taxes for higher earners.

0:17:21 > 0:17:24Those earning more than £24,000 will pay 21p in the pound.

0:17:24 > 0:17:26That's a higher rate than in the rest of the UK.

0:17:26 > 0:17:32Catriona Renton explains.

0:17:32 > 0:17:35This budget came against the backdrop of the Scottish Government

0:17:35 > 0:17:40facing a shortfall in its budget of hundreds of millions of pounds from

0:17:40 > 0:17:44the block grant that comes from Westminster. Today they were able to

0:17:44 > 0:17:49make announcements of money for the NHS, education. A big announcement

0:17:49 > 0:17:55about lifting the cap public sector pay, 2% more for people earning less

0:17:55 > 0:18:01than £30,000 a year. But people want to know how it was going to be paid

0:18:01 > 0:18:07for. Income tax. People who will pay more, if you are paid more than

0:18:07 > 0:18:12£24,000 a year you will be paying tax in a new intermediate tax band

0:18:12 > 0:18:23of 21p. The other higher rates will increase by a penny...

0:18:23 > 0:18:25This is Outside Source live from the BBC newsroom.

0:18:25 > 0:18:26Our lead story is...

0:18:26 > 0:18:28Disney is to buy large parts of the media giant,

0:18:28 > 0:18:3121st Century Fox, for more than $50 billion.

0:18:31 > 0:18:34Let's look at what is making the headlines across the BBC.

0:18:34 > 0:18:38A collision between a school bus and a train in the south of France

0:18:38 > 0:18:47has reportedly left at least four people dead.

0:18:47 > 0:18:50Nine ohers are said to be injured - seven seriously.

0:18:50 > 0:18:52The bus was at a railway crossing near Perpignon.

0:18:52 > 0:18:54It's thought it was children aged between 11 and 15.

0:18:54 > 0:18:57A suicide bomber disguised as a policeman has killed 18

0:18:57 > 0:18:59officers at Somalia's main police academy in Mogadishu.

0:18:59 > 0:19:00Witnesses said the victims were there ahead of

0:19:00 > 0:19:03an early morning parade.

0:19:03 > 0:19:06And we've been learning more about the sacking of reality TV star

0:19:06 > 0:19:15turned White House aide Omarosa Manigault.

0:19:15 > 0:19:18Accounts vary - but it seems she was sacked by chief of staff

0:19:18 > 0:19:21John Kelly last night and then had her pass deactivated.

0:19:21 > 0:19:23She's denying reports that tried to find the president

0:19:23 > 0:19:27at his White House residence, or tripping the alarm system.

0:19:27 > 0:19:30We have the first estimate of how many Rohingya Muslims have

0:19:30 > 0:19:40died in the first month of the crisis in Myanmar.

0:19:42 > 0:19:44The figure is 6700, according to Medecins Sans Frontiers.

0:19:44 > 0:19:47That includes 730 children under the age of five.

0:19:47 > 0:19:51These people didn't die of natural causes.

0:19:51 > 0:19:53Ask the Myanmar government, it'll tell you that the

0:19:53 > 0:19:58figure is 400 people.

0:19:58 > 0:20:01What we can be sure of is that over 600,000 Muslims have fled

0:20:01 > 0:20:08into Bangladesh from Rakhine State.

0:20:08 > 0:20:10Many many stories continue to be told.

0:20:10 > 0:20:12Journalist Kaamil Ahmed One woman said...

0:20:12 > 0:20:14"They used their machetes so much, the blades stopped cutting."

0:20:14 > 0:20:23She's called Momtaz Begum, she says she was locked in her home

0:20:23 > 0:20:24before it was set on fire.

0:20:24 > 0:20:30This is MSF giving more details on its research.

0:20:30 > 0:20:35We performed some surveys, six surveys in various refugee camps the

0:20:35 > 0:20:40Rohingya is in Bangladesh. Amongst the popular patient that had fled

0:20:40 > 0:20:44since August since the violence began. We found the majority of

0:20:44 > 0:20:49these people had arrived since August. We spoke to around 2500

0:20:49 > 0:20:53different households so it represents a population of just over

0:20:53 > 0:20:5911,000 people. We asked them what had happened to them. What was their

0:20:59 > 0:21:03health concerns, but also who had died in their families. When we

0:21:03 > 0:21:07spoke to them, we were getting consistent reports from every

0:21:07 > 0:21:10household of stories of death, violence against their families that

0:21:10 > 0:21:16occurred inside Myanmar, particularly this one month period

0:21:16 > 0:21:21that started at the end of August through to September.

0:21:21 > 0:21:22We told you about Greenland.

0:21:22 > 0:21:25Well there's another story emerging from that huge annual gathering

0:21:25 > 0:21:29of scientists in New Orleans called the AGU.

0:21:29 > 0:21:33They have been turning their attention to hurricane Harvey. You

0:21:33 > 0:21:38must remember this storm in August, it hit Texas terribly. The

0:21:38 > 0:21:48scientists say they have now weighed that total rainfall. The figure is

0:21:48 > 0:21:52127 billion tonnes of water. We have been trying to put this into

0:21:52 > 0:21:57perspective. There is a New Orleans Superdome. The amount of rain that

0:21:57 > 0:22:03came down is the equivalent of filling it 26,000 times. What is

0:22:03 > 0:22:09interesting is how they measured it. They measured how the Earth was

0:22:09 > 0:22:13compressed by it, the way you would comprise someone's size and weight

0:22:13 > 0:22:18after they had sat down on a chair or mattress. I was going to show you

0:22:18 > 0:22:24Texas and the fact Louisiana was next door. Let's go live to New

0:22:24 > 0:22:29Orleans, Victoria Gill is with us. We had to start with how do you

0:22:29 > 0:22:36measure the way rain makes an impression on the earth?Quite. This

0:22:36 > 0:22:39is something they already knew the amount of rainfall from hurricane

0:22:39 > 0:22:45Harvey was colossal, standard rain gauges had about 50 inches of rain.

0:22:45 > 0:22:49But these scientists here in the US wanted a much more detailed

0:22:49 > 0:22:56measurement and what they used with GPS stations, an array of GPS

0:22:56 > 0:23:00stations that advertised their exact position on earth. What they could

0:23:00 > 0:23:04do was actually see how much the Earth was pressed down as the huge

0:23:04 > 0:23:10weight, the tonnage of rainfall fell. So one scientist described

0:23:10 > 0:23:16this, when you look at the data and these positions shifting, D epar

0:23:16 > 0:23:21almost ripples and breathes like a living animal. You can see it being

0:23:21 > 0:23:25squashed and rebounding so that is a clear measure of the weight of the

0:23:25 > 0:23:31rainfall.We all knew the store was huge so we would expect the amount

0:23:31 > 0:23:34of rainfall to be considerable, support else can the scientists

0:23:34 > 0:23:43learned by gauging big exact rainfall?It is important to

0:23:43 > 0:23:46understand how much rain fell because of the impact, particularly

0:23:46 > 0:23:52of climate change on the severity of the storm. We know climate change is

0:23:52 > 0:23:55fuelling the kind of engine behind those tropical hurricane 's, because

0:23:55 > 0:23:59the warm air is the feel for the engines that are those storms. They

0:23:59 > 0:24:05have said for the first time, there is a direct causal link between the

0:24:05 > 0:24:09amount of precipitation and climate change and back climate change did

0:24:09 > 0:24:22directly increase the amount of precipitation. But scientists

0:24:27 > 0:24:29have said, they are starting to use more certain terms, less

0:24:29 > 0:24:31conservative with their language when they talk about climate change

0:24:31 > 0:24:34and its affect on our weather and we are changing the weather. In order

0:24:34 > 0:24:36to understand how to protect our cities and protect living near the

0:24:36 > 0:24:39coast, we need to understand how the weather is going to change. So when

0:24:39 > 0:24:41we need to protect our urban environments and communities from

0:24:41 > 0:24:44flooding in the future, we need to know what the scale of the flooding

0:24:44 > 0:24:46will be. That is why these detailed Meza mentioned our soap crucial.It

0:24:46 > 0:24:49seems they are making an explicit link between the scale of this storm

0:24:49 > 0:24:58and this climate change, but what about the frequency of the storms?

0:24:58 > 0:25:03With this research they were talking about specifically the amounts of

0:25:03 > 0:25:08rainfall, the crucial focus of this study, about the intensity and the

0:25:08 > 0:25:13deluge of the rainfall and how much rain fell. In this case they were

0:25:13 > 0:25:18talking about putting a specific quantity on how much the store was

0:25:18 > 0:25:22fuelled and increased in its level of precipitation in hurricane

0:25:22 > 0:25:27Harvey. We note the warm ocean temperatures are the driver of the

0:25:27 > 0:25:30intensity of these storms. There is a link on how we are changing the

0:25:30 > 0:25:36weather, those increasing temperatures, the intensity and the

0:25:36 > 0:25:41frequency of hurricane is. It is a concern for this area, it is quite

0:25:41 > 0:25:46apt this conference is taking place in Louisiana.Victoria, thank you

0:25:46 > 0:25:53very much indeed from New Orleans. Also in New Orleans is Jonathan Amos

0:25:53 > 0:25:57from the BBC science unit. We will hear from him later in the programme

0:25:57 > 0:26:00Abeid Greenland and how its ice is melting.