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0:00:17 > 0:00:23Hello.

0:00:23 > 0:00:24This is Outside Source.

0:00:24 > 0:00:26America's top intelligence agencies have been laying out

0:00:26 > 0:00:29the threats to the US - we'll look at the list

0:00:29 > 0:00:31and focus on the top threat they've all named -

0:00:31 > 0:00:32Russia.

0:00:32 > 0:00:34There should be no doubt that Russia perceived

0:00:34 > 0:00:35that its past efforts as

0:00:35 > 0:00:38successful, and views the 2018 mid-term elections as a potential

0:00:38 > 0:00:39target for Russian influence operations.

0:00:39 > 0:00:41Jacob Zuma's own party, the ANC, tells the South African president

0:00:41 > 0:00:43to step down urgently.

0:00:43 > 0:00:46We're expecting to hear from him early tomorrow morning.

0:00:46 > 0:00:48A Malaysian newspaper publishes their checklist

0:00:48 > 0:00:55on how to spot gay people.

0:00:55 > 0:00:58Activists are angry and say lives are being put at risk.

0:00:58 > 0:01:05If you want to get in touch with us, the hashtag is #BBCOS.

0:01:12 > 0:01:15The top six officials in America's intelligence services have been

0:01:15 > 0:01:16sitting before Senators - delivering a sobering

0:01:16 > 0:01:18assessment of the threats they say the US faces.

0:01:18 > 0:01:24Here's the list:

0:01:24 > 0:01:26North Korea's nuclear programme poses what the US Director

0:01:26 > 0:01:28of National Intelligence calls an "existential threat"

0:01:28 > 0:01:37to the United States.

0:01:37 > 0:01:39They said China is trying to access sensitive US technologies

0:01:39 > 0:01:40and intellectual property.

0:01:40 > 0:01:43But it was Russia that they all agreed on -

0:01:43 > 0:01:46they were unanimous in saying that Russian attempts to meddle in US

0:01:46 > 0:01:47politics were continuing.

0:01:47 > 0:01:54Here's Dan Coats on that threat.

0:01:54 > 0:01:58Frankly, the United States is under attack, under attack by entities

0:01:58 > 0:02:02that are using cyber to penetrate virtually

0:02:03 > 0:02:06that are using cyber to penetrate virtually every major action that

0:02:06 > 0:02:10takes place in the United States, persistent and disruptive cyber

0:02:10 > 0:02:16operations will continue against the United States and our European

0:02:16 > 0:02:20allies, using elections as opportunities to undermine

0:02:20 > 0:02:24democracy, sowed discord, and undermine our values.

0:02:24 > 0:02:27My colleague Katty Kay was following this briefing in Washington -

0:02:27 > 0:02:28here's how she viewed this briefing.

0:02:28 > 0:02:31So there you had it, three hours long, repeated questions about

0:02:31 > 0:02:35Russia, and at one point all of these six directors, these six white

0:02:35 > 0:02:37guys, sitting up there, they were asked, do you think this

0:02:38 > 0:02:39is an ongoing problem?

0:02:39 > 0:02:41And each one said, yes, this is an ongoing problem.

0:02:41 > 0:02:48They were also asked about the President's attitude

0:02:48 > 0:02:52to this, and why doesn't the President come out and say

0:02:52 > 0:02:53this is an ongoing problem?

0:02:53 > 0:02:55I've just interviewed Leon Panetta, who was

0:02:55 > 0:02:56director of the CIA under President Obama.

0:02:56 > 0:02:59He said that President Trump should listen to those intelligence

0:02:59 > 0:03:02chiefs, that this is a real threat to American democracy, and that's

0:03:02 > 0:03:04chiefs, that this is a real threat to American democracy, and that

0:03:04 > 0:03:10not enough is being done to address it.

0:03:10 > 0:03:16Katty, let's just listen in to a bit of that interview

0:03:16 > 0:03:19you did with the former CIA director, Leon Panetta, saying how

0:03:19 > 0:03:20the president does need to listen.

0:03:20 > 0:03:23The president of the United States needs to listen to his

0:03:23 > 0:03:24intelligence chiefs.

0:03:24 > 0:03:27They are the ones who testified today, and they made very

0:03:27 > 0:03:29clear that the Russians are going to attack our election

0:03:29 > 0:03:30institutions in this country.

0:03:30 > 0:03:32That is a serious issue that the president of

0:03:32 > 0:03:34the United States needs to address.

0:03:34 > 0:03:36Katty, how worried are they about the forthcoming mid-term elections?

0:03:36 > 0:03:38Yeah, well, there are already reports that the Russians are

0:03:38 > 0:03:39already meddling.

0:03:39 > 0:03:42I've spoken to a couple of politicians, actually both

0:03:42 > 0:03:44from the Republican and the Democratic side,

0:03:44 > 0:03:45who are telling people who are

0:03:45 > 0:03:48running for office, listen, just because you think you are in a small

0:03:48 > 0:03:50state-wide election, nobody has ever heard of your district,

0:03:50 > 0:03:52don't think that makes you are immune from

0:03:52 > 0:03:55Russian meddling or interference.

0:03:55 > 0:03:59It's extraordinary to think that it could go down to that really local

0:03:59 > 0:04:02level, but everybody seems to be convinced that the Russians are

0:04:02 > 0:04:05continuing to get involved in American democratic processes,

0:04:05 > 0:04:08perhaps even in the machinery that does the election processes and the

0:04:08 > 0:04:18voting, and the intelligence agencies so far aren't managing to

0:04:18 > 0:04:21do enough and that the social media companies are not so far regulated

0:04:21 > 0:04:22in a way that can prevent this.

0:04:22 > 0:04:25Katty, we heard that list of threats from these six.

0:04:25 > 0:04:28I mean, hasn't the US always faced multiple threats, or

0:04:28 > 0:04:36are we really into different times now?

0:04:36 > 0:04:38Of course, this kind of briefing happens under all

0:04:38 > 0:04:40administrations.

0:04:40 > 0:04:43This is their chance to see these are the things we are facing. One

0:04:43 > 0:04:48thing that struck me about this hearing, it lasted for three hours,

0:04:48 > 0:04:53and nearly the entire focus was on North Korea, Russia, as you heard,

0:04:53 > 0:04:57and there was quite a lot of talk about China. There was very little

0:04:57 > 0:05:00talk actually about so-called Islamic State and the threat of

0:05:00 > 0:05:05global terrorism. In the United States at least that is being

0:05:05 > 0:05:12perceived as of a lesser threat now and we know that because the

0:05:12 > 0:05:16department of defence put out their new policies and that is to focus on

0:05:16 > 0:05:20the emerging threats of Russia and China and less so on Islamic

0:05:20 > 0:05:26terrorism.Thank you, Katty Kay.

0:05:26 > 0:05:28Israeli police are recommending Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's

0:05:28 > 0:05:30indictment for bribery, fraud and breach of public trust

0:05:30 > 0:05:32following long-running investigations into two cases

0:05:32 > 0:05:33of alleged corruption.

0:05:33 > 0:05:41James Reynolds took us through the charges.

0:05:41 > 0:05:43They related to two separate cases that the police

0:05:43 > 0:05:44have been investigating.

0:05:44 > 0:05:47The first, the police have been checking whether or not Mr Netanyahu

0:05:47 > 0:05:49received lavish gifts in exchange for offering wealthy

0:05:49 > 0:05:50friends special treatment.

0:05:50 > 0:05:56And the second involves allegations that Mr Netanyahu tried to do a deal

0:05:56 > 0:05:58with the publisher of a major Israeli newspaper for favourable

0:05:58 > 0:06:00coverage, and in exchange would curtail the circulation

0:06:00 > 0:06:01of a rival paper.

0:06:01 > 0:06:11Those are the two separate cases.

0:06:11 > 0:06:13There appear to be similar recommendations from the police.

0:06:13 > 0:06:15They say that Mr Netanyahu, they recommend he faces

0:06:15 > 0:06:16charges in both cases.

0:06:16 > 0:06:18Fraud, breach of trust, bribery, and the most important

0:06:18 > 0:06:19thing to say is this.

0:06:19 > 0:06:29The most important step is yet to come.

0:06:29 > 0:06:31The files now get handed to Israel's Attorney General,

0:06:31 > 0:06:34and it is up to the Attorney General to decide whether or not to indict

0:06:34 > 0:06:37or whether or not to do nothing, and that decision is expected

0:06:37 > 0:06:43to take at least several months.

0:06:43 > 0:06:44James, how long has Benjamin Netanyahu's legal

0:06:44 > 0:06:45wars been going on for?

0:06:45 > 0:06:47Several years in this case.

0:06:47 > 0:06:50The police have interviewed more than 100 witnesses and the have even

0:06:50 > 0:06:52interviewed witnesses from abroad as well to build up a picture

0:06:52 > 0:06:55of his activities in the last couple of years as relates

0:06:55 > 0:07:05these particular cases.

0:07:06 > 0:07:09He has known that this investigation has been going on.

0:07:09 > 0:07:11Israelis have known as well, and sore throated you see a running

0:07:11 > 0:07:14commentary by Mr Netanyahu essentially saying what he has said

0:07:14 > 0:07:16tonight, that the charges, the recommended charges,

0:07:16 > 0:07:18the accusations against him, are baseless, and he will continue

0:07:18 > 0:07:19to lead the country.

0:07:19 > 0:07:21The recommendation of charges against a weakened Prime Minister,

0:07:21 > 0:07:24a weak Prime Minister, would be a bit of a death blow,

0:07:24 > 0:07:31but Mr Netanyahu still dominates Israeli politics.

0:07:31 > 0:07:33James Reynolds.

0:07:33 > 0:07:35Well, the world's been watching South Africa very closely lately,

0:07:35 > 0:07:38but Jacob Zuma is still president - even though he's officially been

0:07:38 > 0:07:40asked to resign for the sake of the country.

0:07:40 > 0:07:42Earlier, in Pretoria - the governing party,

0:07:42 > 0:07:45the ANC announced that its executive had told Zuma to go

0:07:45 > 0:07:49as soon as possible.

0:07:49 > 0:07:52The party is clear about what it wants -

0:07:52 > 0:07:55this was said in the news conference.

0:07:55 > 0:08:02The collective of the ANC believe that indeed President Cyril

0:08:02 > 0:08:08Ramaphosa must take over the presidency. You can't then have

0:08:08 > 0:08:11another president who is still president of the ANC.

0:08:11 > 0:08:16Jacob Zuma is expected to respond to that by Wednesday -

0:08:16 > 0:08:26and we're hearing he'll hold a news conference at 8 GMT tomorrow -

0:08:29 > 0:08:31that's 10am local South African time, but remember -

0:08:31 > 0:08:33he's under no legal obligation to step down

0:08:34 > 0:08:35as President - yet, and so far,

0:08:35 > 0:08:39says he'll resign in 3 to 6 months - which isn't what his party wants.

0:08:39 > 0:08:41This is the man waiting in the wings, ready to take

0:08:41 > 0:08:44the job of president - the party's leader, Cyril Ramaphosa.

0:08:44 > 0:08:46Our Africa editor Fergal Keane is following the developments

0:08:46 > 0:08:47from Johannesburg.

0:08:47 > 0:08:49Well, we're going to know tomorrow morning.

0:08:49 > 0:08:52It's been disclosed here that he will meet the top six leaders

0:08:52 > 0:08:54of the African National Congress, including the man who would be his

0:08:54 > 0:08:56political nemesis, Cyril Ramaphosa, the organisation's president,

0:08:56 > 0:08:58and at that point he will give his response.

0:08:58 > 0:09:02What we do know up until now is he is saying he will not resign.

0:09:02 > 0:09:04If the ANC wants to force him from office they are

0:09:05 > 0:09:06going to have to do that.

0:09:06 > 0:09:11He can fight if he wishes, but this is only going one way.

0:09:11 > 0:09:13The question is, does his clinging on split

0:09:13 > 0:09:17the African National Congress?

0:09:17 > 0:09:21After car's oldest liberation movements

0:09:21 > 0:09:23After car's oldest liberation movements. He still has a

0:09:23 > 0:09:28substantial degree of support in the party. The question is over the last

0:09:28 > 0:09:30month since Cyril Ramaphosa have taken over enough people have seen

0:09:30 > 0:09:35the way the wind is blowing and will now why not behind Cyril Ramaphosa,

0:09:35 > 0:09:38and critically if it gets to a motion of no-confidence in the

0:09:38 > 0:09:41parliament, will they decide they can vote along with opposition MPs

0:09:41 > 0:09:48to remove Jacob Zuma office?

0:09:48 > 0:09:54to remove Jacob Zuma from office?

0:09:54 > 0:09:56The foreign minister of the Netherlands, Halbe Zijlstra

0:09:56 > 0:09:58has resigned after admitting to lying about meeting

0:09:58 > 0:10:00Russian President Vladimir Putin at his dacha in 2006.

0:10:00 > 0:10:02He claimed that he overheard the Russian president talking

0:10:02 > 0:10:04about expansionist ambitions whereby Putin defined

0:10:04 > 0:10:06"Greater Russia" as "Russia, Belarus, Ukraine and the Baltic

0:10:06 > 0:10:07states", which are Estonia, Lithuania and Latvia.

0:10:07 > 0:10:10But doubts emerged about the story and he later admitted to lying

0:10:10 > 0:10:12about meeting Putin, in order to protect his source.

0:10:12 > 0:10:15He said, "The manner in which I wanted to protect my source

0:10:15 > 0:10:17and underscore my message about Russia was not sensible,

0:10:18 > 0:10:19that is crystal clear."

0:10:19 > 0:10:25And today, in an emotional speech to Parliament, he resigned.

0:10:33 > 0:10:35TRANSLATION:So as not to burden the position of the Minister of foreign

0:10:35 > 0:10:41affairs I see no other option now than to offer my resignation today

0:10:41 > 0:10:48to His Majesty, the King. I do this with regret in my heart.

0:10:48 > 0:10:58But in the full conviction that the Netherlands deserves a minister of

0:10:58 > 0:11:11foreign affairs who is above any form of doubt.Hugging the Dutch

0:11:11 > 0:11:13Prime Minister there.

0:11:13 > 0:11:17Anna Holligan has more on the reaction to these events.

0:11:17 > 0:11:21An extraordinary story indeed. On Monday we heard from the Dutch

0:11:21 > 0:11:24Foreign Minister, admitting he had lied about this meeting with

0:11:24 > 0:11:29President Putin back in 2006, in which he had claimed the Russian

0:11:29 > 0:11:33president had outlined his plans for a greater Russia, which were said to

0:11:33 > 0:11:42include the Baltic states, Ukraine, bezel -- Belarus and Kazakhstan.

0:11:42 > 0:11:45Today Halbe Zijlstra apologised and he said the Netherlands describes a

0:11:45 > 0:11:50Foreign Minister who was beyond reproach, and it had been the

0:11:50 > 0:11:54biggest mistake of his political career. Initially the Dutch Prime

0:11:54 > 0:11:58Minister Mark Rutte had stuck by his man, saying that although he

0:11:58 > 0:12:01shouldn't have claimed to have been somewhere he was the crux of his

0:12:01 > 0:12:06comments were true. And then a former Shell executive e-mailed a

0:12:06 > 0:12:10Dutch newspaper to say he had been at the meeting, which Halbe Zijlstra

0:12:10 > 0:12:13had not attended, and that actually these comments were made in an

0:12:13 > 0:12:18historical context. Halbe Zijlstra was supposed to be travelling to

0:12:18 > 0:12:22Moscow this week to meet his Russian counterpart, Sergey Lavrov, to

0:12:22 > 0:12:34discuss amongst other things the downing of flight MH17 which left

0:12:34 > 0:12:38298 people dead, but his position despite his attempts to hang on by

0:12:38 > 0:12:42the political skin of his teeth clearly has become untenable and

0:12:42 > 0:12:46that is why we have now see them stand down as the Netherlands

0:12:46 > 0:12:56Foreign Minister.Thank you.

0:12:56 > 0:13:00Stay with us on Outside Source - still to come...

0:13:00 > 0:13:03Waging a war on waste - we'll take a look at how companies

0:13:03 > 0:13:07are helping clean up the oceans by cutting down on plastics.

0:13:07 > 0:13:10In Liverpool today the former football coach Barry Bennell was

0:13:10 > 0:13:15found guilty of sex offences against young boys in the 1980s. The

0:13:15 > 0:13:1964-year-old denied 40 charges of abusing boys in his care while

0:13:19 > 0:13:28coaching at major football clubs. Ben Ando was in court.This

0:13:28 > 0:13:31afternoon the jury started returning verdicts. Of the 48 counts they were

0:13:31 > 0:13:35asked to consider they found him guilty of 36 charges, involving ten

0:13:35 > 0:13:42different victims, boys aged 8-14 at the time of the abuse that took

0:13:42 > 0:13:52place in the 1980s.

0:14:11 > 0:14:23There are legal restrictions on what we can report today.

0:14:25 > 0:14:32You're watching Outside Source. The

0:14:32 > 0:14:37s... -- the headlines.

0:14:37 > 0:14:40America's intelligence agencies have said that Russia has never stopped

0:14:40 > 0:14:43trying to meddle in US politics, and is a threat to November's

0:14:43 > 0:14:44mid-term elections.

0:14:44 > 0:14:46A 17-year-old Palestinian girl who was charged with assault

0:14:46 > 0:14:48after a video went viral showing her hitting two Israeli

0:14:48 > 0:14:50soldiers has gone on trial in a military court.

0:14:50 > 0:14:53Ahed Tamimi arrived for her hearing with her hands and feet shackled.

0:14:53 > 0:14:55Proceedings got under way behind closed doors,

0:14:55 > 0:14:57as she is being tried as a minor.

0:14:57 > 0:14:59Yesterday we told you about cyclone Gita heading for Tonga.

0:14:59 > 0:15:01Well, now rescue teams in the Pacific island

0:15:01 > 0:15:04state are assessing the extent of the damage after it

0:15:04 > 0:15:05hit the capital, Nuku'alofa.

0:15:05 > 0:15:06Many buildings were destroyed, including a Catholic church

0:15:07 > 0:15:08and the main parliament building.

0:15:08 > 0:15:10Thousands of Tongans are in evacuation centres.

0:15:10 > 0:15:13And a lot of people have been reading about a man smuggling

0:15:13 > 0:15:15cocaine in fake buttocks.

0:15:15 > 0:15:17He was detained in Lisbon's International Airport after landing

0:15:17 > 0:15:20with on a flight from Brazil.

0:15:20 > 0:15:23He is accused of carrying 1 kilo of drugs - enough to make 5,000

0:15:23 > 0:15:32individual doses of cocaine.

0:15:32 > 0:15:34Yesterday we told you about the a refugee crisis in Uganda.

0:15:34 > 0:15:37It's caused by ethnic clashes in the Democratic Republic of Congo

0:15:37 > 0:15:46that have forced thousands to flee the country.

0:15:46 > 0:15:48People have been crossing Lake Albert which sits

0:15:48 > 0:15:57here on the border with Uganda after attacks intensified

0:15:57 > 0:15:59here in Ituri over the past week.

0:15:59 > 0:16:02There are fears of a return to massacres witnessed in the area

0:16:02 > 0:16:04almost 20 years ago, when tens of thousands were killed

0:16:04 > 0:16:06in ethnic clashes in DR Congo.

0:16:06 > 0:16:07Anne Soy is at Lake Albert.

0:16:07 > 0:16:11The scale of the emergency is clear. There are more than 16,000 people

0:16:11 > 0:16:14who have been waiting here for registration. Some have been

0:16:14 > 0:16:19standing the whole day. It is a slow process. The humanitarian

0:16:19 > 0:16:22organisations say they were not prepared to handle the kind of

0:16:22 > 0:16:26numbers coming, and more people are still crossing over from the

0:16:26 > 0:16:32Democratic Republic of Congo, some using canoes and boats across Lake

0:16:32 > 0:16:40Albert to the Ugandan side. The eastern side, where they come from

0:16:40 > 0:16:43particularly, is deeply troubled and has been for many years, with

0:16:43 > 0:16:48different conflicts happening across the region. The region is mineral

0:16:48 > 0:16:51rich and therefore is important not only for the Democratic Republic of

0:16:51 > 0:16:59Congo, but also this region, the Eastern African region, and the

0:16:59 > 0:17:02interests there, so it is a complex situation and these people have

0:17:02 > 0:17:07found themselves in the midst of something they say they don't

0:17:07 > 0:17:11understand. We ask why they are here, and they say they have been

0:17:11 > 0:17:15attacked but they do not know why and they do not understand what the

0:17:15 > 0:17:20trigger of those attacks was.Anne Soy reporting from Uganda.

0:17:20 > 0:17:23The United States is set to become the world's leading oil producer

0:17:23 > 0:17:26at some point next year.

0:17:26 > 0:17:27That's according to the International Energy Agency

0:17:27 > 0:17:30which says the fracking boom could lead to the world's

0:17:30 > 0:17:32biggest economy overtaking Saudi Arabia and Russia.

0:17:32 > 0:17:39Joe Miller joins us now from New York.

0:17:39 > 0:17:44Hello, Joe. What is fuelling America's rise as an energy giant?

0:17:44 > 0:17:50Put simply, it is economics. Just a few years ago when oil prices

0:17:50 > 0:17:55started to slump because global demand weakened, it looked like the

0:17:55 > 0:17:58American fracking industry, based mainly in Texas and New Mexico, it

0:17:58 > 0:18:01looked to be on its last legs because it could no longer be

0:18:01 > 0:18:04profitable. What has happened since is they have just got more

0:18:04 > 0:18:09efficient, a lot of cost-cutting measures and a lot of fracking sites

0:18:09 > 0:18:14have come back online, and this has led to a huge increase in supply, so

0:18:14 > 0:18:18quite good news I suppose for America, and we saw a shipment of

0:18:18 > 0:18:24oil from the US to the UAE, the Middle East, topsy-turvy energy

0:18:24 > 0:18:28market these days, but what is not so good is the supply is higher than

0:18:28 > 0:18:32the demands of their is still quite a lot of pressure on energy prices,

0:18:32 > 0:18:36oil prices.I wonder if Donald Trump's attitude to fossil fuels

0:18:36 > 0:18:39which we have heard so much about over recent months is having an

0:18:39 > 0:18:44impact on this?Well, he certainly hasn't hindered it. He has relaxed

0:18:44 > 0:18:47some of the regulations are planned to relax some of the regulations

0:18:47 > 0:18:56around fracking but what happened here is really an economic story,

0:18:56 > 0:18:58about cost-cutting, and it was happening before Donald Trump came

0:18:58 > 0:19:00into office and it has continued after he has done so. I doubt that

0:19:00 > 0:19:03will perhaps stop him and other members of his administration is

0:19:03 > 0:19:06taking credit, that remains to be seen, but really what is happening

0:19:06 > 0:19:10here is a story in Texas and New Mexico with new hydraulic techniques

0:19:10 > 0:19:15for fracking that brings down the cost a lot. -- brings the cost down

0:19:15 > 0:19:19dramatically.What impact could this have on the cost of oil around the

0:19:19 > 0:19:23globe?It is not good for the cost around the globe because, put

0:19:23 > 0:19:28simply, the more oil there is, the more downward pressure on the price,

0:19:28 > 0:19:33and it also means that the oil cartel Opec and basically most of

0:19:33 > 0:19:37the oil producing countries outside of the USA, they have been trying to

0:19:37 > 0:19:41boost the price by pushing down supply, restricting supply, and

0:19:41 > 0:19:45because there is all of this shale oil out of the US, their efforts are

0:19:45 > 0:19:49essentially not working, so it really means the mechanisms to

0:19:49 > 0:19:53control prices other countries have, they are failing, and the US really

0:19:53 > 0:19:57is in the driving seat now, so it could have quite an effect, quite a

0:19:57 > 0:20:06pressurising effect on oil prices. It remains to be seen of course and

0:20:06 > 0:20:09it is all down to how quickly the world economy grows.Joe, thank you

0:20:09 > 0:20:10very much, from New York.

0:20:10 > 0:20:12Plastic is one of the world's favourite packaging materials.

0:20:12 > 0:20:14It's cheap and efficient for transporting goods.

0:20:14 > 0:20:15But only a fraction of it is recycled.

0:20:15 > 0:20:17Vivienne Nunis reports now on the demand for

0:20:17 > 0:20:25greener alternatives.

0:20:25 > 0:20:29At least 8 million tonnes of plastic ends up in the ocean each year. One

0:20:29 > 0:20:34of the biggest culprits is the consumer goods industry. The plastic

0:20:34 > 0:20:39packaging is often used just once before being thrown away.A tenth of

0:20:39 > 0:20:44the plastics in the world is actually recycled so that leaves 90%

0:20:44 > 0:20:49either buried, burned or lost into the environment.Now, and number of

0:20:49 > 0:20:56companies are trying to stem the tide.

0:20:56 > 0:21:00British firm Recycling Technologies thinks this machine can be a game

0:21:00 > 0:21:04changer. It takes difficult items like food wrappers, toothpaste

0:21:04 > 0:21:08tubes, coffee cups and bin liners, at very high temperatures, and

0:21:08 > 0:21:12breaks down the plastic to its raw material. And at the end of the

0:21:12 > 0:21:17process you get something like this, and oil that can be sold back to

0:21:17 > 0:21:22petrochemical companies to be made back into plastic once again. Many

0:21:22 > 0:21:27plastics and currently only be recycled ones. This company, which

0:21:27 > 0:21:30makes household cleaning products, once its bottles to be recycled

0:21:30 > 0:21:35again and again.The more sustainable system we can have on

0:21:35 > 0:21:38plastic usage, so everyone use transparent bottles, because then

0:21:38 > 0:21:42all bottles could be recycled back and any bottle could be used to be

0:21:42 > 0:21:46recycled into any other bottle.As more companies look for ways to

0:21:46 > 0:21:53tackle the problem of plastic waste, costs will come down. Vivienne

0:21:53 > 0:21:56Nunis, BBC News.

0:21:56 > 0:21:59A Malaysian newspaper has a check list on how to spot gay people.

0:21:59 > 0:22:00Remember, homosexuality is illegal in Malaysia.

0:22:00 > 0:22:07The article's in Malay in the Sinar Harian daily newspaper,

0:22:08 > 0:22:09but we've translated a bit of it.

0:22:09 > 0:22:13It says gay men like to wear tight clothes to show off their six packs,

0:22:13 > 0:22:14have adoptive brothers and adore beards, moustaches

0:22:15 > 0:22:18and branded clothes.

0:22:18 > 0:22:20It goes on to say lesbians hate men and enjoy belittilng them,

0:22:20 > 0:22:24love to spend time alone, and enjoy hugging and holding hands.

0:22:24 > 0:22:29It's prompted a backlash from LGBT groups.

0:22:29 > 0:22:31Arwind Kumar is an activist and one of Malaysia's biggest

0:22:31 > 0:22:40social media stars - he posted this video on YouTube.

0:22:40 > 0:22:43There are much more important issues in this country to be addressed in

0:22:43 > 0:22:48this is not one of them. Explain to them up or molester, a kidnapper, a

0:22:48 > 0:22:52murderer, those people who are in of another. How the hell does a gay

0:22:52 > 0:22:58person endanger your life? If you really want to help this society...

0:22:58 > 0:23:02Probably with this article that could have saved many lives, but

0:23:02 > 0:23:05this article will only take away lives, and if that is what you are

0:23:05 > 0:23:08happy doing because you want less gay people in this country, good job

0:23:08 > 0:23:10for you!

0:23:10 > 0:23:12I spoke with Boris Dittrich, Director of the LGBT programme

0:23:12 > 0:23:15with the Human Rights Watch, Berlin - here's his

0:23:15 > 0:23:16reaction to the article.

0:23:16 > 0:23:24The words that come to mind are stupidity, ignorance, prejudice, and

0:23:24 > 0:23:27possibly dangerous. Because as you said in the introduction Malaysia is

0:23:27 > 0:23:33a country where homosexual conduct is criminalised and were for

0:23:33 > 0:23:40instance cross-dressing is illegal, many transgender where men are

0:23:40 > 0:23:45arrested, for instance, and there is public hostility towards LGBT

0:23:45 > 0:23:49people, so when a newspaper runs a story like this, so stupid, it could

0:23:49 > 0:23:56also maybe incite people to become aggressive and, you know, try to

0:23:56 > 0:24:01target LGBT people.As well as offensive, this article is

0:24:01 > 0:24:06potentially dangerous? Yes, because there is so much

0:24:06 > 0:24:12ignorance in Malaysia about what it means to be homosexual, and that is

0:24:12 > 0:24:16because, for instance, the media, and the mainstream newspapers, they

0:24:16 > 0:24:23are government controlled. They never write anything balanced about

0:24:23 > 0:24:27homosexuality. They don't provide honest information. Usually when

0:24:27 > 0:24:31there is something about LGBT people, it is quite scandalous, and

0:24:31 > 0:24:37so the general public doesn't know a lot of facts about LGBT people and

0:24:37 > 0:24:43so when such an article is being published many people might believe

0:24:43 > 0:24:52it, so what I think, and what Human Rights Watch thinks is imported,

0:24:52 > 0:24:56sexual education should be taught in schools so young people will learn

0:24:56 > 0:25:00about sexuality, including homosexuality.One brief final

0:25:00 > 0:25:04question. Do you think this article and the furore that has accompanied

0:25:04 > 0:25:08it, at least outside of Malaysia, has done anything to open up the

0:25:08 > 0:25:13question about homosexuality in Malaysia?Well, because the media

0:25:13 > 0:25:17are government controlled there will be some smaller news outlets, yes,

0:25:17 > 0:25:21that will pay attention to this, but I'm afraid that the general public

0:25:21 > 0:25:28that reads the Sinar Harian in the Malay language will not be included

0:25:28 > 0:25:34in this public discussion, but that's why Human Rights Watch

0:25:34 > 0:25:37publishes reports about discrimination of LGBT people, and

0:25:37 > 0:25:46hopefully those reports will lead to a public discussion.That was Boris

0:25:46 > 0:25:54Dittrich of Human Rights Watch. Lets tell you what is coming up.

0:25:54 > 0:25:57The top spy chiefs all lined up talking to the Senate committee, and

0:25:57 > 0:26:01we will be talking about the threat that they see as opposed to the

0:26:01 > 0:26:05United States by North Korea. Stay with us. We will be back in a few

0:26:05 > 0:26:08minutes.

0:26:08 > 0:26:13with us. We will be back in a few minutes. Hello. A relatively quiet

0:26:13 > 0:26:16weather story at the moment, but that said there are two storms to

0:26:16 > 0:26:21point out. One is moving away from the southern Philippines, and this

0:26:21 > 0:26:26is starting to weaken as it moves across cool waters. Further south

0:26:26 > 0:26:36and east, this was tropical cyclone Gita, quite a significant storm

0:26:36 > 0:26:40particularly for the island of Tonga, the biggest they had seen in

0:26:40 > 0:26:4470 years. Power lines down, it completely demolish the parliament

0:26:44 > 0:26:49building with significant disruption across the capital of the island. We

0:26:49 > 0:26:54saw sustained winds of 160 mph gusts, well in excess of that, then

0:26:54 > 0:26:59it moved across the islands of Fiji, but it continues to track in a

0:26:59 > 0:27:02westerly direction and continues to weaken all the time so we are not

0:27:02 > 0:27:06concerned about that. It looks like it will continue to decay. Across to

0:27:06 > 0:27:09Australia we will need to keep a close eye on the Northern

0:27:09 > 0:27:21Territories, cluster of showers may develop into a storm. We are seeing

0:27:21 > 0:27:23her frontal system moving away from Tasmania towards New Zealand.

0:27:23 > 0:27:25Elsewhere, heat building but a relatively quiet story. We can see

0:27:25 > 0:27:27this in the five day forecast. Herath will see some beautiful

0:27:27 > 0:27:31weather with temperatures perhaps into the low 30s. Moving away from

0:27:31 > 0:27:35Australia, we have been looking quite a lot at parts of Korea, all

0:27:35 > 0:27:38due to the winter Olympics, and the winds have been a feature, but I

0:27:38 > 0:27:41suspect over the next days the winds will start to ease slightly and it

0:27:41 > 0:27:46will stay dry. Dry weather across much of China. It looks like this

0:27:46 > 0:27:50continues to track and a westerly direction and may well interact with

0:27:50 > 0:27:55Vietnam over the next few days, but by then not a storm, just bringing

0:27:55 > 0:27:59some enhanced rainfall. A good deal of dry weather in the five-day city

0:27:59 > 0:28:02forecasts. It looks like Bangkok will see some beautiful blue sky and

0:28:02 > 0:28:05sunshine through the middle part of the week. North America stays quite

0:28:05 > 0:28:10quiet as well, a southerly breeze starting to introduce something a

0:28:10 > 0:28:20little less cold and some sharp showers moving out of Texas towards

0:28:20 > 0:28:22Tennessee. A weather front end from the Pacific north-west, snow on the

0:28:22 > 0:28:25leading edge of a few scattered showers perhaps likely in the

0:28:25 > 0:28:27southern half of California. That front in British Columbia may well

0:28:27 > 0:28:29bring greater Seattle in the next few days, and elsewhere it is quite

0:28:29 > 0:28:35a quite unsettled story to come. But certainly not across Europe at the

0:28:35 > 0:28:38moment. One storm moving through the Black Sea and another bringing heavy

0:28:38 > 0:28:44rain, strong winds and some rain across central and southern Italy.

0:28:44 > 0:28:48Strong to gale force gusts of wind and snow with the leading edge of

0:28:48 > 0:28:52Scotland moving through France and over into the Pyrenees. Here it will

0:28:52 > 0:28:55stay pretty unsettled but it is a south-westerly wind so it is

0:28:55 > 0:29:03introducing something a little less cold. Take care.

0:30:09 > 0:30:11Hello, I'm Karin Giannone, this is Outside Source,

0:30:11 > 0:30:17and these are the main stories here in the BBC Newsroom.

0:30:17 > 0:30:19America's top intelligence agencies have been laying out

0:30:19 > 0:30:20the threats to the US.

0:30:20 > 0:30:23We'll look at the list and focus on the top

0:30:23 > 0:30:28threat they've all named, Russia.

0:30:28 > 0:30:35There should be no doubt Russia perceives that its past efforts were

0:30:35 > 0:30:39successful and will use the 2008 in US mid-term elections as a potential

0:30:39 > 0:30:42target for Russian influence operations.

0:30:42 > 0:30:43Jacob Zuma's own party, the ANC,

0:30:43 > 0:30:46tells the South African president to step down urgently.

0:30:46 > 0:30:48We're expecting to hear from him early tomorrow morning.

0:30:48 > 0:30:51Every day, Outside Source features BBC journalists working

0:30:51 > 0:30:52in over 30 languages.

0:30:52 > 0:30:57Your questions are always welcome.

0:30:57 > 0:31:00#BBCOS is the hashtag.

0:31:12 > 0:31:14We started this hour covering the heads of the US intelligence

0:31:14 > 0:31:17services and their concerns about Russian meddling.

0:31:17 > 0:31:21Now I want to turn to what they said about North Korea.

0:31:21 > 0:31:25The CIA Director Mike Pompeo says North Korea poses a nuclear threat

0:31:25 > 0:31:25to the United States.

0:31:25 > 0:31:32Here's what he had to say.

0:31:32 > 0:31:34Our analysts remain concerned that Kim Jong-Un is not

0:31:34 > 0:31:37hearing the full story, that is, that those around him

0:31:37 > 0:31:40aren't providing nuance, aren't suggesting to him the tenuous

0:31:40 > 0:31:47nature of his position, both internationally and domestically.

0:31:47 > 0:31:49I can bring in Barbara Plett Usher, our State Department correspondent.

0:31:49 > 0:31:52Barbara, we've been focusing a lot lately on the thawing relations

0:31:52 > 0:31:54between North and South Korea on the sidelines of

0:31:54 > 0:31:58the Winter Olympics.

0:31:58 > 0:32:01At these intelligence chiefs still see North Korea as a very real

0:32:01 > 0:32:08threat? -- but these.Yes, they do, for several reasons, first, North

0:32:08 > 0:32:11Korea's determination to be able to carry out a nuclear attack on the US

0:32:11 > 0:32:15and the other is its ability to do so and those increasingly

0:32:15 > 0:32:18sophisticated missile tests we saw last year showed it was getting

0:32:18 > 0:32:23closer and closer to that capability, to be measured in

0:32:23 > 0:32:26months, not years, probably. Also, the intelligence agencies assessed

0:32:26 > 0:32:30that Kim Jong-un is not about to negotiate away his nuclear weapons

0:32:30 > 0:32:42which is what the US is demanding because he sees it as crucial to the

0:32:42 > 0:32:44survival of the regime. You have defrosting on the Korean peninsula,

0:32:44 > 0:32:47diplomacy between North and South Korea and in the face of the success

0:32:47 > 0:32:50of that so far, the US has endorsed a deeper in gauge went after the

0:32:50 > 0:32:52Olympics with the possibility of talks with the US perhaps come that

0:32:52 > 0:32:55is what we had Rex Tillerson and Mike Pence talking about. But I

0:32:55 > 0:32:59think the intelligence agencies are focusing much more on the chance of

0:32:59 > 0:33:03another missile test rather than the chance of a diplomatic breakthrough.

0:33:03 > 0:33:08On the role of the US in this, where does the thaw, however temporary or

0:33:08 > 0:33:14permanent, between North and South Korea, leave the US?It is

0:33:14 > 0:33:17interesting, isn't it? The US position has been one of maximum

0:33:17 > 0:33:21pressure which means to sanction North Korea and isolate it, to try

0:33:21 > 0:33:25to get it to the negotiating table, ready to talk about

0:33:25 > 0:33:29denuclearisation, whereas instead of being isolated, it has great

0:33:29 > 0:33:33publicity from coming out to the Olympics with Kim Jong-un's sister,

0:33:33 > 0:33:36with the cheerleaders and the athletes and it has painted a

0:33:36 > 0:33:41picture that is hard to go against in public relations terms. Where it

0:33:41 > 0:33:45leaves the US if they have had a chat with South Korea who have

0:33:45 > 0:33:48convinced them that even if they are talking to North Korea, they won't

0:33:48 > 0:33:53give them anything. They won't ease sanctions or give investment or aid

0:33:53 > 0:33:56unless North Korea comes up with some goods on denuclearisation and

0:33:56 > 0:34:01on the basis of that, the US says, OK, those talks should be able to go

0:34:01 > 0:34:04ahead and maybe we will even talk although we are going to keep

0:34:04 > 0:34:11sanctions on as tightly as ever until we see some results from it.

0:34:11 > 0:34:14It has put the US on the back foot a bit.

0:34:14 > 0:34:17Now, I want to follow up on a story we brought you yesterday,

0:34:17 > 0:34:22the Iraq reconstruction meetings in Kuwait.

0:34:22 > 0:34:26The US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson is there - have a listen.

0:34:26 > 0:34:28The enduring defeat of Isis in Iraq and Syria means all members

0:34:28 > 0:34:31of the coalition must support and sustain the post-Isis

0:34:31 > 0:34:32stabilisation efforts.

0:34:32 > 0:34:34This means continuing to provide essential aid and services

0:34:34 > 0:34:42to communities which are only now starting to rebuild.

0:34:42 > 0:34:45What is the US actually committing in order to assist Iraq moving

0:34:45 > 0:34:52forward?Not reconstruction, we have heard again and again that the

0:34:52 > 0:34:56administration does not do nation-building. It is trying to

0:34:56 > 0:34:59encourage Iraq's neighbours, especially Arab countries in the

0:34:59 > 0:35:02Gulf, to come forward with reconstruction assistance and

0:35:02 > 0:35:06especially the private sector. It has some US companies participating

0:35:06 > 0:35:10in this conference, the US import-export bank has just signed a

0:35:10 > 0:35:13$3 billion memo with the finance ministry saying they will provide

0:35:13 > 0:35:17financing to facilitate such projects. Still quite a big ask for

0:35:17 > 0:35:21the private sector to invest in this kind of climate with security risks

0:35:21 > 0:35:25and corruption risks but the US government says it is focusing its

0:35:25 > 0:35:29money on humanitarian aid and also on what it calls stabilisation, the

0:35:29 > 0:35:33areas where Isis has been defeated, preparing them for people to return

0:35:33 > 0:35:37back, like basic services and that kind of thing. Rex Tillerson said

0:35:37 > 0:35:41the US would supply some $200 million extra to Syria for the

0:35:41 > 0:35:44stabilisation process.Thank you for joining us. Barbara Plett Usher in

0:35:44 > 0:35:47Washington.

0:35:47 > 0:35:49Well, let's look at North Korea from their neighbours' perspetive.

0:35:49 > 0:35:50That relationship is improving.

0:35:50 > 0:35:53North Korea's state media said that leader Kim Jong-un is delighted

0:35:53 > 0:35:56with the outcome of his country's attendance at the Games.

0:35:56 > 0:36:02Accompanying the report was this unusually relaxed picture of Mr Kim

0:36:02 > 0:36:05with his delegation that had just spent three days in South Korea.

0:36:05 > 0:36:08You can see here his sister Kim Yo-jong and to the left

0:36:08 > 0:36:12the North's ceremonial head of state, Kim Yong-nam.

0:36:12 > 0:36:15Both are linking arms with him and Kim Yong-nam

0:36:15 > 0:36:18is practically holding his hand.

0:36:18 > 0:36:22The report also says Mr Kim thanks the South for "specially

0:36:22 > 0:36:26prioritising" the North's attendance at the Games and gave instructions

0:36:26 > 0:36:30on how to "liven up the warm climate of reconciliation and dialogue."

0:36:30 > 0:36:32The question is whether this charm offensive is working

0:36:32 > 0:36:34beyond the two Koreas.

0:36:34 > 0:36:36Today the South Korean President President Moon Jae-in said the US

0:36:37 > 0:36:41is open to talking with the North.

0:36:41 > 0:36:47Laura Bicker is at the Winter Olympics in Pyeongchang.

0:36:47 > 0:36:51Over two months ago, Kim Jong-un fired his last missile,

0:36:51 > 0:36:55and here we are as the two sides exchanged warm words.

0:36:55 > 0:37:00The state media reported that the North Korean

0:37:00 > 0:37:02leader described the way that the South Korean government

0:37:02 > 0:37:05treated his sister and other North Korean delegates as very

0:37:05 > 0:37:08impressive, as sincere.

0:37:08 > 0:37:11He also went on to say that they provided a warm climate

0:37:11 > 0:37:16for further dialogue and further unification.

0:37:16 > 0:37:18Now when it comes to that wish, he has already invited

0:37:18 > 0:37:22the South Korean president, Moon Jae-in, to visit Pyongyang.

0:37:22 > 0:37:26That is something that he will have to mull over and will have to decide

0:37:26 > 0:37:30what kind of conditions he will put on that visit.

0:37:30 > 0:37:33Meanwhile, President Moon Jae-in has confirmed that the US is open

0:37:33 > 0:37:37to talks with North Korea.

0:37:37 > 0:37:40That is a significant development and a significant

0:37:40 > 0:37:44diplomatic breakthrough for President Moon Jae-in,

0:37:44 > 0:37:48because there had been this wedge between the US and South Korea.

0:37:48 > 0:37:53South Korea wants to pursue a twin approach to North Korea.

0:37:53 > 0:37:56It wants to pursue this approach of maximum pressure and sanctions

0:37:56 > 0:38:00but it also wants to engage with the North, to talk to them.

0:38:00 > 0:38:03At the start of Mike Pence's visit here during the Winter Olympics,

0:38:03 > 0:38:07it seemed that was not something the US was willing to do.

0:38:07 > 0:38:11It now seems that they are at least willing to talk about talks.

0:38:11 > 0:38:14There's a huge hurdle in the way, though, and that is North Korea's

0:38:14 > 0:38:16nuclear programme.

0:38:16 > 0:38:20So far, the North has refused to put that on the table and that will be

0:38:20 > 0:38:23something that is difficult for the international community

0:38:23 > 0:38:27to come to terms with.

0:38:27 > 0:38:31However, if you look at critics, people who believe, some people

0:38:31 > 0:38:35believe that President Moon Jae-in is on the wrong track,

0:38:35 > 0:38:37that he has given Pyongyang a propaganda platform at these

0:38:37 > 0:38:39Olympics.

0:38:39 > 0:38:41The Japanese Foreign Minister has even described his

0:38:41 > 0:38:43approach as naive.

0:38:43 > 0:38:47Others, however, believe that he may be on the brink of something,

0:38:47 > 0:38:51including enabling talks between the US and North Korea,

0:38:51 > 0:38:54and that is something that he has been looking for since he came

0:38:54 > 0:38:57to power eight months ago.

0:38:57 > 0:38:59Let's get back to this picture released by the North

0:38:59 > 0:39:00Korea's state media.

0:39:00 > 0:39:02There have been previous photos showing affection between members

0:39:02 > 0:39:06of the Kim family and even senior North Korean officials.

0:39:06 > 0:39:10This latest photograph is reminiscent of this old photo

0:39:10 > 0:39:17from the 1970s showing Mr Kim's aunt, Kim Kyong-hui,

0:39:17 > 0:39:19with her arm around Kim Il-Sung.

0:39:19 > 0:39:21That's Kim Jong-Il on the right.

0:39:21 > 0:39:26In this picture, a girl is shown overwhelmed with emotion

0:39:26 > 0:39:28as she holds the arm of the then-leader Kim Jong-Il.

0:39:28 > 0:39:32Kim Jong-un has also held the arms or hands of elder senior officials

0:39:32 > 0:39:37and even civilians before.

0:39:37 > 0:39:39These fruit farmers are seen locking their arms with Kim Jong-un's.

0:39:39 > 0:39:42And last year Mr Kim was even pictured giving an official

0:39:42 > 0:39:44a piggyback to celebrate what state media said was the successful

0:39:44 > 0:39:52test of a rocket engine.

0:39:52 > 0:39:55Don't forget you can get much more detail on our top

0:39:55 > 0:40:04stories on our website.

0:40:04 > 0:40:09It's no secret that jihadi groups use the internet to recruit.

0:40:09 > 0:40:13Their successes in cyberspace have sucked in many young fighters.

0:40:13 > 0:40:16Many of them have left their homes, even here in Britain,

0:40:16 > 0:40:18for bloody wars in Syria and Iraq.

0:40:18 > 0:40:20Some are drawn by the grim videos posted by this

0:40:20 > 0:40:28group, the Islamic State.

0:40:28 > 0:40:30They're the sort of propaganda videos that governments are trying

0:40:30 > 0:40:32to catch before they enter the online world.

0:40:32 > 0:40:36Well today, the UK unveiled a tool which it says can do just that -

0:40:36 > 0:40:38detect this type of content and remove it instantly.

0:40:38 > 0:40:40It's been tested on thousands of hours of videos posted

0:40:40 > 0:40:42by the Islamic State - successfully detecting up

0:40:42 > 0:40:44to 94% of videos posted, with almost total accuracy.

0:40:44 > 0:40:47It works in the upload process, so the video is stopped before

0:40:47 > 0:40:50reaching the internet.

0:40:50 > 0:40:53Research suggests Islamic State used up to 400 different websites

0:40:53 > 0:40:59for propaganda last year.

0:40:59 > 0:41:00The challenge now is predicting which areas

0:41:00 > 0:41:02of the internet terror groups could use next.

0:41:02 > 0:41:04Amal Rajan reports.

0:41:04 > 0:41:08Militaristic, cinematic and often shot with high-level production

0:41:08 > 0:41:10values, these propaganda videos for the so-called Islamic State

0:41:10 > 0:41:17espouse terror and hatred.

0:41:17 > 0:41:19They're also easy to find on the internet right now.

0:41:19 > 0:41:22What we have here are two videos, one of which is extremist content,

0:41:22 > 0:41:25the other which is perfectly legitimate news coverage.

0:41:25 > 0:41:27Now an artificial intelligence firm in London has used Home Office money

0:41:27 > 0:41:31to target such extremist content.

0:41:31 > 0:41:34The creators claim the technology, which is obviously secret,

0:41:34 > 0:41:39can spot 94% of IS content online with an accuracy of 99.995%.

0:41:39 > 0:41:49The technology distinguishes between news and extremism and flags

0:41:49 > 0:41:52up examples such as the one on the right, with a high

0:41:52 > 0:41:54probability of being extremist content, to be vetted by a human.

0:41:54 > 0:41:58What we are looking to do is to try and remove this content

0:41:58 > 0:41:59from the public web.

0:41:59 > 0:42:01If it requires somebody to have ten passwords and an incredibly

0:42:01 > 0:42:04complicated Tor browser before they can get access to content,

0:42:04 > 0:42:07we see that as a win.

0:42:07 > 0:42:10It means that it can't just be shared between friends on, like,

0:42:10 > 0:42:11their mobile phones.

0:42:11 > 0:42:14While attention is focused on big firms like Twitter,

0:42:14 > 0:42:16Google and Facebook, crucially, this technology

0:42:16 > 0:42:21will benefit smaller platforms, who will have free use of it.

0:42:21 > 0:42:23Islamic State supporters used over 400 unique platforms last year,

0:42:23 > 0:42:29145 of them for the first time.

0:42:29 > 0:42:31Like other forms of modern media, terrorist propaganda

0:42:31 > 0:42:33has now shifted online.

0:42:33 > 0:42:36What's so striking about this new tool is both that it's funded

0:42:36 > 0:42:38by Government rather than technology firms, and that it's powered

0:42:38 > 0:42:41by artificial intelligence.

0:42:41 > 0:42:45In other words, it's an admission that machines rather than manpower

0:42:45 > 0:42:47will be most effective at finding and removing extremist

0:42:47 > 0:42:49material online.

0:42:49 > 0:42:53One former jihadist who now works in counter-radicalisation argues

0:42:53 > 0:42:56that terrorists will always adapt their methods to find

0:42:56 > 0:42:59new audiences, and the platforms need to be willing to take action.

0:42:59 > 0:43:02The big players in this area are taking a lot of action,

0:43:02 > 0:43:05but we've found that it's the smaller companies who aren't

0:43:05 > 0:43:10necessarily prepared to play ball with Government,

0:43:10 > 0:43:12sometimes because they're suspicious of government,

0:43:12 > 0:43:14sometimes because they simply don't regard it as being part

0:43:14 > 0:43:16of their business model.

0:43:16 > 0:43:18It's not yet clear how widely the technology will be taken up,

0:43:18 > 0:43:21but the Government says its instinct is to collaborate with industry.

0:43:21 > 0:43:23We're not going to rule out taking legislative action

0:43:23 > 0:43:28if we need to do it, but I remain convinced that the best

0:43:28 > 0:43:31way to take real action to have the best outcomes

0:43:31 > 0:43:34is to have an industry-led form like the one we've got.

0:43:34 > 0:43:37Your algorithms are doing that grooming and that radicalisation.

0:43:37 > 0:43:40It's a war of attrition, but the chair of the Home Affairs

0:43:40 > 0:43:42Select Committee says the onus is still on the biggest

0:43:42 > 0:43:44digital companies.

0:43:44 > 0:43:48I think it's imperative on the tech giants, on all of these companies

0:43:48 > 0:43:51to do more to operate swiftly to remove illegal material.

0:43:51 > 0:43:56If they don't, there has to be some form of penalty

0:43:56 > 0:43:58on them for not doing this, because in the end, this

0:43:58 > 0:44:00is about illegal material.

0:44:00 > 0:44:02It's important to be realistic about the costs

0:44:02 > 0:44:05and consequences of the open web.

0:44:05 > 0:44:08While technology and Government pressure can reduce harm,

0:44:08 > 0:44:10the fight against digital extremism is a war without end.

0:44:10 > 0:44:13Amol Rajan, BBC News.

0:44:13 > 0:44:16Nakita Malik is the Director of the Centre for the Response

0:44:16 > 0:44:19to Radicalisation and Terrorism.

0:44:19 > 0:44:24Let's hear her views on this new tool.

0:44:24 > 0:44:28I don't think it is a game changer but I do think it is a step in the

0:44:28 > 0:44:32right direction. We have to remember that nothing beats human

0:44:32 > 0:44:36intelligence so although the software is very good in spotting

0:44:36 > 0:44:42trends, what we have already begun to see when we analyse Islamists and

0:44:42 > 0:44:48far right propaganda, which we do on a regular basis at my organisation,

0:44:48 > 0:44:51is the Islamists and the jihadists and extremists are always one step

0:44:51 > 0:44:55ahead of the technology already, they know how to skirt policy

0:44:55 > 0:44:59guidelines, to make sure that they are using certain language or

0:44:59 > 0:45:02symbolism that only the insiders of their group can understand. The

0:45:02 > 0:45:06software is good at removing perhaps the bulk of the material but the

0:45:06 > 0:45:10real nuance and the trends and how this will change remains to be seen

0:45:10 > 0:45:16and we also have to remember that the Islamic State is just one group

0:45:16 > 0:45:21which was found through a foundation of Islamist ideology, starting with

0:45:21 > 0:45:27Al-Qaeda, with the Taliban and now what we see with Islamic State. We

0:45:27 > 0:45:30really have to look at the bigger picture, although it is a step in

0:45:30 > 0:45:34the right direction. I don't know the details of the software but from

0:45:34 > 0:45:38what I can understand, it is quite similar to the way that, say, child

0:45:38 > 0:45:44pornography details are seen on the Internet, how visuals and videos can

0:45:44 > 0:45:49be removed in that way so yes, it is useful and in the past we have seen

0:45:49 > 0:45:55unsuspecting smaller websites like Etsy hosting Islamist material

0:45:55 > 0:45:59completely by accident and not knowing what to do about it so it is

0:45:59 > 0:46:04good having said that, however, the search engines still posed a lots of

0:46:04 > 0:46:07handbooks, they host poison manuals, they housed a lot of disturbing

0:46:07 > 0:46:12material which we interact with and flag up to be social media providers

0:46:12 > 0:46:17on a daily basis. So I'd really like to see changes in that and also in

0:46:17 > 0:46:21legislation. We have yet to see what exactly the government means by

0:46:21 > 0:46:24extremism.

0:46:24 > 0:46:27The threat of terrorism has hit the tourist industy in a number

0:46:27 > 0:46:28of countries on the continent.

0:46:28 > 0:46:30Not least Tunisia, where in 2015, 38 people were shot

0:46:30 > 0:46:33dead at a beach resort.

0:46:33 > 0:46:42And today, for the first time since that incident,

0:46:42 > 0:46:44a British tour company, Thomas Cook, is taking tourists

0:46:44 > 0:46:45back to the country.

0:46:45 > 0:46:47Frank Gardner reports on the measures that Tunisia has

0:46:47 > 0:46:48taken to ensure security.

0:46:48 > 0:46:51Tunis by night, and a National Guard unit prepares to raid

0:46:51 > 0:47:01a suspected terrorist hideout.

0:47:06 > 0:47:08Since two devastating attacks in 2015, this country has vowed

0:47:08 > 0:47:10to stamp out terrorism and make Tunisia safe for tourists.

0:47:10 > 0:47:12Well, they've just gone into a house here.

0:47:12 > 0:47:15We can hear some shouts.

0:47:15 > 0:47:19We're in a tiny little backstreet, and they're looking for members

0:47:19 > 0:47:23of an Isis cell that has been in Libya, they suspect, so the whole

0:47:23 > 0:47:27street is flooded with these armed National Guard soldiers.

0:47:27 > 0:47:30Three years ago, on this beach near Sousse, an Isis gunman

0:47:30 > 0:47:35shot dead 38 people, 30 of them British.

0:47:35 > 0:47:38Now, Tunisia is getting training from Royal Navy instructors

0:47:38 > 0:47:41in maritime security, while Met Police detectives have

0:47:41 > 0:47:43been training up hotel staff.

0:47:43 > 0:47:46At four key airports, British aviation experts have

0:47:46 > 0:47:50installed new screening equipment.

0:47:56 > 0:47:59In this resort town, where Thomas Cook is taking the first returning

0:47:59 > 0:48:02British tourists, I asked the hotel manager what precautions he is

0:48:02 > 0:48:04taking.

0:48:04 > 0:48:06We have around 60 cameras all around the hotel.

0:48:06 > 0:48:11The exterior cameras are all monitored 24 hours

0:48:11 > 0:48:14by persons behind the screens.

0:48:14 > 0:48:17But Tunisia sits in a dangerous neighbourhood.

0:48:17 > 0:48:22Across this border, Libya is in chaos, and Isis has bases.

0:48:22 > 0:48:29The Manchester bomber trained in Libya, and so did the Sousse gunman.

0:48:29 > 0:48:35Back in the capital Tunis, the night raid yields results.

0:48:35 > 0:48:40Suspects are arrested and will now face trial.

0:48:40 > 0:48:42Tunisia has made huge progress against terrorism,

0:48:42 > 0:48:45but if its tourist industry is to recover fully,

0:48:45 > 0:48:47it will need to stay vigilant.

0:48:47 > 0:48:50Frank Gardner, BBC News, Tunisia.

0:48:51 > 0:48:55The funeral of prominent Pakistani human rights

0:48:55 > 0:48:57activist and lawyer, Asma Jahangir, has

0:48:57 > 0:48:58been held in Lahore.

0:48:58 > 0:49:00Senior government officials and members of the legal

0:49:00 > 0:49:03profession were among the mourners who attended.

0:49:03 > 0:49:06Ms Jahangir - who died on Sunday - campaigned for women's rights

0:49:06 > 0:49:07throughout her career.

0:49:07 > 0:49:12BBC Urdu's Henna Saeed was there and sent us this report.

0:49:12 > 0:49:15Hundreds of people came out here at the Gaddafi Stadium

0:49:15 > 0:49:19in Lahore today to pay tribute to the prominent human rights

0:49:19 > 0:49:21activist and lawyer Asma Jahangir.

0:49:21 > 0:49:24Asma had a great fan following in Pakistan,

0:49:24 > 0:49:27especially with women, because she was a voice for women

0:49:27 > 0:49:29who were suppressed here.

0:49:29 > 0:49:33She fought for the rights of women, and got them justice.

0:49:33 > 0:49:40A large number of such women, her friends, family, co-workers,

0:49:40 > 0:49:45they all came to her house today to see her for the very last time,

0:49:45 > 0:49:48then they formed groups and came here as they walked

0:49:48 > 0:49:50to the stadium in Lahore where they offered

0:49:50 > 0:49:52the final funeral prayers.

0:49:52 > 0:49:57For the first time in Pakistan, men and women stood side by side

0:49:57 > 0:49:59in the funeral prayers.

0:49:59 > 0:50:01Never has this country seen this scenario, and this

0:50:01 > 0:50:04is what Asma Jahangir wanted in her life, to see men

0:50:04 > 0:50:08and women stand by together.

0:50:08 > 0:50:10Asma's last wish has been granted, although there were voices

0:50:10 > 0:50:14from across Pakistan that she should be given a state funeral,

0:50:14 > 0:50:18but nothing was finalised in that, and now she has been laid to rest

0:50:18 > 0:50:21in Bedian graveyard.

0:50:21 > 0:50:23Henna Saeed, BBC News, Pakistan.

0:50:23 > 0:50:26Let's bring you a story from Australia now, which is marking

0:50:26 > 0:50:28ten years since it said sorry to its indigenous people

0:50:29 > 0:50:31for the wrongs of the past.

0:50:31 > 0:50:32This is what the former Prime Minister Kevin Rudd said

0:50:32 > 0:50:34to parliament back in 2008.

0:50:34 > 0:50:43The pain, suffering and hurt of these stolen generations, their

0:50:43 > 0:50:48descendants and for their families left behind, we say sorry.APPLAUSE

0:50:48 > 0:50:51It was a defining moment in Australia's history.

0:50:51 > 0:50:53This was the scene in the capital Canberra that day.

0:50:53 > 0:50:54Thousands watched.

0:50:54 > 0:50:58Many of them described it as a watershed moment.

0:50:58 > 0:51:00Up until the 1970s, aboriginal children -

0:51:00 > 0:51:02thousands of them - were taken from their families.

0:51:02 > 0:51:07They became known as the stolen generations.

0:51:07 > 0:51:09So ten years on, the question is are indigenous Australians

0:51:09 > 0:51:10still being disadvantaged?

0:51:10 > 0:51:12Here's a tweet from an indigenous rights campaigner,

0:51:12 > 0:51:14Roxy Moore who says:.

0:51:24 > 0:51:26On Monday the government released this report, Closing the Gap,

0:51:26 > 0:51:32which found that although it's made some progress in reducing

0:51:32 > 0:51:39inequality, it still has a long way to go in several areas.

0:51:39 > 0:51:40One of them is closing the life-expectancy gap.

0:51:40 > 0:51:45More now from our reporter Hywell Griffiths who is in Canberra.

0:51:46 > 0:51:51The apology ten years ago was a cathartic moment for Australia. It

0:51:51 > 0:51:55is hard to overestimate its significance at the time. I have

0:51:55 > 0:51:58been speaking to survivors of the stolen generations, people who were

0:51:58 > 0:52:02taken from their families and they told me how they cried for hours on

0:52:02 > 0:52:06that day ten years ago. A lot of the focus today has been on progress or

0:52:06 > 0:52:12the lack of it. Sadly, we know that things like life expectancy for

0:52:12 > 0:52:17indigenous Australians is far lower than nonindigenous. When it comes to

0:52:17 > 0:52:20employment rates, for example, the gap has widened in the last decade.

0:52:20 > 0:52:26The employment rate for indigenous Australians is 25% lower. There is

0:52:26 > 0:52:30some progress being made but one of the other concerns we have heard

0:52:30 > 0:52:35about is talk of a new stolen generation, the high number of

0:52:35 > 0:52:39children from indigenous families taken into out of home care. They

0:52:39 > 0:52:42account for about 35% of the children in care although

0:52:42 > 0:52:46proportionally, they are only about 5% of all children in Australia so

0:52:46 > 0:52:50you can see there are difficult issues that people are still

0:52:50 > 0:52:53grappling with. In terms of aboriginal community leaders, they

0:52:53 > 0:53:00are asking for more self-determination, for them to come

0:53:00 > 0:53:03up with the answers rather than be dictated to by the government. But

0:53:03 > 0:53:05it is a difficult balance for the Australian Federal government. They

0:53:05 > 0:53:08want inclusiveness, to be the government for all Australians.

0:53:08 > 0:53:10We spoke to Warren Mundine, an aboriginal leader

0:53:10 > 0:53:12in northern Queensland, who told us about what kind

0:53:12 > 0:53:14of progress has been made in his community.

0:53:14 > 0:53:18Well, it's a bit of a mixed bag, to be quite honest, but first of all

0:53:18 > 0:53:20I've got to congratulate the former Prime Minister Kevin Rudd.

0:53:21 > 0:53:22It was a major step.

0:53:22 > 0:53:25I was in the parliament that day and I actually cried when

0:53:25 > 0:53:26he made that apology.

0:53:26 > 0:53:27So it was a major step forward.

0:53:27 > 0:53:31There are many things that are improving but there

0:53:31 > 0:53:33are also many things that are not moving forward.

0:53:33 > 0:53:34I have just...

0:53:34 > 0:53:38I'm up in Cairns because I have just come from

0:53:38 > 0:53:41a tour of free remote aboriginal communities, looking at the

0:53:41 > 0:53:45challenges that we need to face to move ahead,

0:53:45 > 0:53:49but I'm very pleased there is more of a sensible approach

0:53:49 > 0:53:53in regard to if we are going to lift people out

0:53:53 > 0:53:55of poverty and bring them in

0:53:55 > 0:53:58the mainstream economy and the global economy,

0:53:58 > 0:54:01and we have to be able to deal with issues of

0:54:01 > 0:54:02education, health and housing.

0:54:02 > 0:54:04There needs to be economic development and

0:54:04 > 0:54:11that is what the major focus is now.

0:54:11 > 0:54:14Before we go - I want to introduce you to some robots that are getting

0:54:15 > 0:54:18everyone's attention.

0:54:18 > 0:54:21You may have already seen this and had a reaction to it.

0:54:21 > 0:54:22This is the Spot-Mini Robot.

0:54:22 > 0:54:25It was designed by Boston Dynamics - and it has an extendable

0:54:25 > 0:54:31arm that opens doors.

0:54:31 > 0:54:33But a lot of people are saying it's downright creepy.

0:54:33 > 0:54:40This clip has been picked up and shared widely on social media.

0:54:40 > 0:54:43The news editor of BuzzFeed says, "This is one of the most terrifying

0:54:43 > 0:54:45things I've seen in all my life".

0:54:45 > 0:54:47Comedian and Daily Show host Trevor Noah @trevornoah

0:54:47 > 0:54:49replied to that saying, "All I see is a robot

0:54:49 > 0:54:54being a gentleman."

0:54:54 > 0:55:01Thank you very much for watching. Five. -- goodbye.