Badgers: Dodging the Bullet?

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:00:42. > :00:49.This programme contains some scenes which some viewers may find

:00:49. > :00:53.upsetting. Badgers should be dying here and

:00:53. > :00:55.now. The Government wanted them killed to hold the spread of a

:00:55. > :00:59.killer disease - tuberculosis. Thousands of cattle are being

:00:59. > :01:03.slaughtered each year to fight this infection. There is no question

:01:03. > :01:08.about it - the reason why my cows have TB is badgers. Farmers have

:01:08. > :01:13.long blamed badgers for spreading TB to their cattle. The Government

:01:13. > :01:17.backed them and authorised a cull. But the guns have remained silent

:01:17. > :01:21.in what many see as another Government U-turn. So, with their

:01:22. > :01:28.fingers on the trigger, why didn't they fire? Was it the strength of

:01:28. > :01:33.opposition? We are not going to stand by and witness the abysmal

:01:33. > :01:41.slaughter of these creatures. it intimidation of farmers? I hope

:01:41. > :01:46.you die in a fire you sick (BLEEP), (BLEEP), (BLEEP). If that isn't a

:01:46. > :01:48.threatening text, I don't know what is. Was it a dispute over the

:01:48. > :01:53.science? Badger-culling can make no meaningful contribution to the

:01:53. > :01:57.control of TB in cattle in Britain - end of story. Panorama reveals

:01:57. > :02:03.the inside story of the badger cull and asks whether, as the Government

:02:03. > :02:06.insists, it will happen next year. If we do not do this, we are

:02:06. > :02:16.condemning our cattle industry to a hopeless future. I'm not prepared

:02:16. > :02:30.

:02:30. > :02:36."The Mole had long wanted to make the acquaintance of the Badger. The

:02:36. > :02:41.Wind in the Willows has charmed generations by giving its animal

:02:42. > :02:51.cast such human characters, none more so than "Dear, Old Badger",

:02:51. > :02:56.described as gruff and someone who "simply hates society". So an

:02:56. > :03:01.animal few of us have ever seen gets a big, noble personality. We

:03:01. > :03:05.have long been a nation of animal lovers. But the riverside

:03:06. > :03:11.adventures of Badger and Co have had a deeper significance,

:03:11. > :03:16.inspiring generations to nurture and cherish Britain's wildlife.

:03:17. > :03:19.Towards the end of the last century, popular affection was joined by

:03:19. > :03:26.legal protection. An Act of Parliament makes it illegal to kill,

:03:26. > :03:33.injury or remove badgers from their setts. So with no natural predators,

:03:33. > :03:38.badgers have gone forth and multiplied. For the last 25 years,

:03:38. > :03:45.a rise in their numbers has coincided with an increase in

:03:45. > :03:49.tuberculosis in cattle. Though mainly a disease afflicting cows,

:03:49. > :03:53.bovine TB can infect a variety of animals and badgers are significant

:03:53. > :03:58.carriers. It is passed from cattle to cattle, from badger to badger,

:03:58. > :04:02.and between the two. This is how the Government wants to deal with

:04:02. > :04:06.badgers. Until a few weeks ago, marksmen were being trained to

:04:07. > :04:14.shoot them at night in a plan to kill three-quarters of the badger

:04:14. > :04:21.population. In two secret pilot areas, one in Gloucestershire, the

:04:21. > :04:26.other in Somerset. Each zone was around 300 square kilometres. But

:04:26. > :04:31.from the off, animal rights activists took to the countryside,

:04:31. > :04:37.battle lines were being drawn. Threatening to be the largest clash

:04:37. > :04:42.since fox-hunting was banned. At the 11th hour, with both sides dug

:04:42. > :04:48.in, the Government stopped the cull in its tracks, delaying it until

:04:49. > :04:53.next year. Was this another U-turn? There has been absolutely no change

:04:53. > :04:57.to policy. We are quite determined to go ahead with two pilot culls,

:04:57. > :05:04.but we need to do them under the right conditions and we need to do

:05:04. > :05:08.them in a way that they have absolute scientific integrity.

:05:08. > :05:15.what motivates a policy that involves killing such a well-loved

:05:15. > :05:20.animal? New cases of TB have doubled since 2000. Most cattle

:05:20. > :05:27.farmers think shooting badgers will protect their herds and reverse the

:05:27. > :05:33.trend. For almost a century, the Barton family have been farming

:05:33. > :05:40.this corner of the Cotswolds. Today, David Barton runs a herd of 150

:05:40. > :05:46.beef cows. But beneath beauty lurks disease. This place is a TB hotspot.

:05:46. > :05:54.This bull calf, given a girl's name by David's daughter, is a victim.

:05:54. > :05:58.Gertrude is a product of the T "B" testing regime that we have. His

:05:58. > :06:04.mother failed the test in February. He will be tested in a couple of

:06:04. > :06:12.weeks' time. If he fails the test, he will be slaughtered. As farmers,

:06:12. > :06:17.we are basically animal lovers. We love our animals. When TB strikes,

:06:17. > :06:21.it is heartbreaking. It really is. Infected badgers are thought to

:06:21. > :06:25.pass TB to cattle through saliva, faeces or urine. If cows and

:06:25. > :06:30.badgers share grazing, they can pick up the infection. For David,

:06:30. > :06:34.it is clear which is to blame. Without doubt, the main host of TB

:06:34. > :06:37.is badgers. I have five or six badger setts across the grazing

:06:37. > :06:41.that these cattle have to share. Nowhere in the world have they

:06:41. > :06:45.managed to control TB without controlling the wildlife reservoir.

:06:45. > :06:49.I empathise with people who are opposed to the cull because it is

:06:49. > :06:56.very, it is the sort of thing that no-one wants to do, but it is

:06:56. > :07:03.necessary to control this horrible disease. Last year, 34,000 cattle

:07:03. > :07:07.were slaughtered to control TB, costing the taxpayer a bill of �100

:07:07. > :07:14.million annually. So without further disease control, we could

:07:14. > :07:22.be paying �1 billion in the next decade. To fight the disease and

:07:22. > :07:27.cut the cost, the Government settled on its badger cull policy.

:07:27. > :07:32.Culling badgers does give a reduction of TB in cattle over a

:07:32. > :07:38.period of years. If you cull effectively, and over a long enough

:07:38. > :07:42.period, you can get a benefit in reducing TB in cattle.

:07:42. > :07:49.Government expects the cull will mean around 16% fewer cattle herds

:07:49. > :07:54.going down with TB over the next nine years. But does that justify

:07:54. > :07:58.killing thousands of badgers and infuriating Britain's badger-loving

:07:58. > :08:07.public? Good morning, everybody. Thank you for coming. It is lovely

:08:07. > :08:11.to see so many of you here. Pauline Kidner runs Secret World Wildlife

:08:11. > :08:15.Rescue in Somerset. Badgers are amongst her most treasured patients.

:08:15. > :08:19.I have always been amazed by how people are attracted to them. That

:08:19. > :08:24.has to be they are probably the closest thing to a teddy bear when

:08:24. > :08:29.they are young. I think I care about badgers very much because

:08:29. > :08:33.they are such misunderstood animals. They are fascinating creatures.

:08:33. > :08:39.Pauline once ran a dairy farm herself and feels the farmers' pain

:08:39. > :08:43.but doesn't agree with culling as a cure. I totally, totally understand

:08:44. > :08:48.the emotional and the financial side of a bovine TB outbreak on a

:08:48. > :08:54.farm. But believe me, as far as I'm concerned, killing badgers never

:08:54. > :08:58.has and never will be the answer to this problem. While accepting

:08:58. > :09:03.badgers can give TB to cows, she believes most infections on farms

:09:04. > :09:07.arise from cattle spreading the disease among themselves. One of

:09:07. > :09:12.the things you have to remember is that if you reduce the disease in

:09:12. > :09:18.cattle, and it is a bovine disease, it is not a wildlife disease, it is

:09:18. > :09:22.a cattle disease, and if you reduce the incidents of TB in cattle, it

:09:22. > :09:26.automatically reduces in wildlife. The Government insists it is

:09:26. > :09:33.already tackling the cattle side. Movement restrictions and testing

:09:33. > :09:37.will tighten further in the New Year, so that leaves the badgers.

:09:37. > :09:43.Several weeks before the cull was due to begin, I was invited to meet

:09:43. > :09:46.one of the marksmen who would be doing the shooting. He insisted on

:09:46. > :09:52.remaining anonymous for fear of reprisal by animal rights activists.

:09:52. > :09:56.How much training have you had? Well, I went on a detailed training

:09:56. > :10:01.course. It was a mixture of theory and practical sessions. I had to

:10:01. > :10:06.complete an exam at the end of it. I was tested on how I could shoot

:10:07. > :10:11.at 70 metres. You will be shooting them from here, would you? Is this

:10:11. > :10:18.range crucial? The range is crucial. We can't shoot them any further

:10:18. > :10:23.than 70 metres. Pitted against the marksmen were anti-cull campaigners

:10:23. > :10:28.who had spent months combing the countryside for clues about where

:10:28. > :10:34.the shooting would happen. There is another entrance here. How can it

:10:34. > :10:37.be that people who live in those cull zones can't find out they are

:10:37. > :10:41.inside the cull zone, when it is going to take place, who is

:10:41. > :10:46.responsible for it? The Government refused to answer any questions.

:10:46. > :10:50.Jay Tiernan made it his mission to get answers. The campaign we are

:10:50. > :10:54.running is very much along the lines of exposing secrets. Huge

:10:54. > :10:57.volumes of our information come from phone blagging, which is when

:10:57. > :11:02.you trick people into giving you information by pretending someone

:11:02. > :11:05.who you are not. You pretend to be a journalist, someone from Natural

:11:05. > :11:10.England, someone from the NFU. Then you build-up their trust and you

:11:10. > :11:14.ring them and you keep talking to them over a period of days. And get

:11:14. > :11:18.critical information that is useful to you? Lots of information. For

:11:18. > :11:24.every five people that you ring, maybe two of them won't talk to you.

:11:24. > :11:29.More than half will talk. Once he knew where the cull would happen,

:11:29. > :11:36.activists pasted up warnings and posters asking for help. Word

:11:37. > :11:41.spread and more anti-cull campaigners took to the field.

:11:41. > :11:46.don't know how the cull is going to be carried out. We are pretty sure

:11:46. > :11:53.it will involve a man pointing a gun at a badger. Hopefully, we can

:11:53. > :11:58.get in the way of that and stop it. Veterans proved they could still

:11:58. > :12:07.mobilise in numbers and town halls filled up, too, as campaigners

:12:07. > :12:14.stepped up to the soapbox. badgers have no vote. They have no

:12:14. > :12:23.voice. We are not going to stand by and witness the abysmal slaughter

:12:23. > :12:28.of these creatures for no tangible decent purpose whatsoever. One of

:12:28. > :12:33.the biggest opposition guns was the head of the RSPCA. The spotlight of

:12:33. > :12:39.attention will be turned on those marksmen and on those that give

:12:39. > :12:45.permission for this cull to take place. They will be named and we

:12:45. > :12:49.will decide as citizens of this country whether they will be shamed.

:12:49. > :12:53.Fiery words from the leader of an organisation whose patron is Her

:12:54. > :13:00.Majesty the Queen. For activists, exposing the people behind the cull

:13:00. > :13:04.was key. The first real coup for Jay's campaign was tracking down

:13:04. > :13:08.the names and addresses of directors of the two secret

:13:08. > :13:14.companies running the cull and publishing them on the internet.

:13:14. > :13:17.Contact details also went online. Government lawyers got tough,

:13:17. > :13:22.winning an injunction forcing the removal of those personal details.

:13:22. > :13:27.You have published the names and addresses of people organising this

:13:27. > :13:31.cull. Surely there is a danger of personal reprisal on them which you

:13:31. > :13:36.will then be partly responsible for? No, I won't be partly

:13:36. > :13:40.responsible for any reprisals on them. They will be responsible for

:13:40. > :13:46.it for organising a cull on badgers. You don't accept you are increasing

:13:46. > :13:49.the risk by publishing their names and addresses? Not at all. That is

:13:49. > :13:55.not how this farmer saw it. What security measures have you had to

:13:55. > :13:58.take? You can see one of them up here is the CCTV camera. That is it

:13:58. > :14:04.there? He is a director of the company which was organising the

:14:04. > :14:08.cull in Gloucestershire. When my name went up on the Badgerkillers

:14:08. > :14:13.website, we got some nasty, threatening texts and letters.

:14:13. > :14:21.I have a look? Yes, by all means. I have a file here that I have kept

:14:21. > :14:26.the worst of them in. There's a text here, you can see. It is

:14:26. > :14:30.opening up. I hope you die in a fire you sick (BLEEP), (BLEEP),

:14:30. > :14:36.(BLEEP). Are you planning to disappear or change your name so

:14:36. > :14:41.that I can find you? I'm sure they will. I will be happy to read about

:14:41. > :14:46.the justice they will give to you. At no point, were you threatened in

:14:46. > :14:50.this entire text - ha, ha, ha. that isn't a threatening text, I

:14:50. > :14:54.don't know what is. You have a family here? Yes. Grandchildren

:14:54. > :15:00.come and visit regularly. And it just does worry you, that is

:15:00. > :15:07.another one. My funeral plan that's been ordered for me. Obviously,

:15:07. > :15:10.somebody has made a fictitious enquiry in my name. It is the

:15:10. > :15:16.insinuation behind it. It does shake you. It shakes you a lot at

:15:16. > :15:26.the time. Given this intimidation, does the RSPCA boss still stand by

:15:26. > :15:30.I was at a meeting in Tewkesbury where you called for the

:15:30. > :15:34.identification of the farmers and marksmen involved in the cull.

:15:34. > :15:38.called for the identification of the farms. That is splitting hairs.

:15:38. > :15:42.Certainly not. I am totally opposed to personal intimidation. Why did

:15:42. > :15:48.you call for the identification of farmers involved in a cull? I have

:15:48. > :15:51.not called for the identification of any individual. The RSPCA is a

:15:51. > :15:55.responsible organisation and I am a responsible leader. I think there

:15:55. > :15:57.is a groundswell of opinion in communities across the nation and

:15:57. > :16:07.in Parliament that this is the wrong solution to the difficult

:16:07. > :16:09.

:16:09. > :16:19.Many members of the public agree, and their opinions were amplified

:16:19. > :16:24.by a rock star. Queen guitarist Brian May. We have no war to fight

:16:24. > :16:28.with the farmers. We are fighting bovine TB. His online petition

:16:28. > :16:32.gained 160,000 signatures and forced a debate in Parliament,

:16:32. > :16:37.which the Government overwhelmingly lost, but they are not bound by it.

:16:37. > :16:42.Brian May's garden doubles as a wildlife sanctuary and most

:16:42. > :16:47.evenings he checks who is visiting. He believes that the badger cull is

:16:47. > :16:51.simply not ethical. To me it is black and white. It is down to

:16:51. > :16:54.moral issues, down to whether people think it is worthwhile

:16:54. > :16:58.sacrificing the life of thousands of innocent creatures to get what

:16:58. > :17:06.is essentially a marginal improvement, perhaps, in the

:17:06. > :17:11.mortality rate of cattle, which will be slaughtered three years

:17:11. > :17:18.later anyway. For farmer David Barton, the death of his animals

:17:18. > :17:22.may come rather sooner. His farm remained clear of TB until 2001. He

:17:22. > :17:32.has suffered five outbreaks in the last decade. We want to keep one

:17:32. > :17:33.

:17:33. > :17:39.ready. He now has a test every 60 days. They are black days. I think

:17:39. > :17:43.they enjoyed a testing about as much as I do. In the last eight

:17:43. > :17:53.years, the number of cattle slaughtered to two TB has gone up

:17:53. > :18:01.by 50%. They are running at 200 new herds every year in Gloucestershire.

:18:01. > :18:06.She is a reactive. What is that? Another one with TB, that is two so

:18:06. > :18:13.far. He says that the cows going down with TB are in there herd that

:18:13. > :18:18.spent the winter grazing outside with the badgers. Those that spent

:18:18. > :18:22.the winter indoors are clear of infection. No farmer wants to see

:18:22. > :18:27.the badgers cold. The problem is there is no question about it. The

:18:27. > :18:30.reason why they have got TB is badgers. Can I tell you why? The

:18:30. > :18:36.cows live outside 10 months of the year and they are the ones going

:18:36. > :18:44.down with TB, living with a reservoir in the wildlife. A red

:18:44. > :18:52.stripe marks those with TB. They have now just days to live. 10 days

:18:52. > :19:02.later, the slaughterman arrived. The cows to be shot have been

:19:02. > :19:21.

:19:21. > :19:30.separated from their cards. -- from Well, I feel sick, to be honest. It

:19:30. > :19:34.is a terrible waste of good breeding stock. Beef herds has been

:19:35. > :19:38.my life's work, and I started when I was 19 and it is incredibly

:19:38. > :19:48.distressing for me. I am not sure whether I want to continue with

:19:48. > :19:52.this. It is so upsetting. Struggling through hard times,

:19:52. > :19:59.farmers like David clung to the hope that the cull was imminent. A

:19:59. > :20:03.solution at last to end their TB nightmare. But is there another

:20:03. > :20:09.solution that involves medicine not marksmen? The cattle vaccine is

:20:09. > :20:13.being developed. Brian May joined the head of the RSPCA in a visit to

:20:13. > :20:18.Brussels to try to persuade the EU to allow its use. For me the Holy

:20:18. > :20:23.Grail of this is to vaccinate the cows. It is almost a no-brainer. Of

:20:23. > :20:28.course we should. If it was our children, we would be vaccinating

:20:29. > :20:33.before we can say Jack Robinson. The European Commission has ruled

:20:33. > :20:36.out a cattle vaccine for the foreseeable future because of

:20:36. > :20:40.difficulties telling the difference between an animal with the disease

:20:40. > :20:45.and one that has been vaccinated. would love it if I had a vaccine. I

:20:45. > :20:49.could press a button this evening and say vaccinate. Sadly at the

:20:49. > :20:53.moment we are still in the early stages of development. There will

:20:53. > :20:57.be quite a lengthy process of proving it those vaccines in the

:20:57. > :21:06.field. For the time being I have to use the tools at my disposal and

:21:06. > :21:11.one of those is to bear down on disease and wildlife by culling.

:21:11. > :21:15.But does culling really work? In the 1990s, a ten-year trial began

:21:15. > :21:19.involving trapping and shooting badgers. Thousands were killed. The

:21:19. > :21:25.Government says that those deaths reduced to be in cattle over all.

:21:25. > :21:31.That is the scientific justification for the current

:21:31. > :21:36.culling policy. -- reduced TB in cattle overall. Dr Chris Cheeseman

:21:36. > :21:40.worked on the trial. He disputes this and believe that culling can

:21:40. > :21:46.make things worse. One of the effects is to increase the movement

:21:46. > :21:53.of badgers 526 bold. Instead of travelling over 50 hectares, it

:21:53. > :21:59.might be 300. -- 5 to six fold. In doing that, they contact more

:21:59. > :22:05.badgers and so the rate goes up, and the spread of TB goes up.

:22:05. > :22:09.ten-year trial found that while culling badgers could cut TB in

:22:09. > :22:15.badgers inside the cull zone, the benefits did not stretch very far.

:22:15. > :22:18.In the heart of the culling area there was a decrease of TB of 25%

:22:18. > :22:23.and on the edge there was an increase because of the disruptive

:22:23. > :22:29.effects of culling of about the same amount. There is positive and

:22:29. > :22:32.negative effects pretty much cancelled each other out. The

:22:32. > :22:35.scientific committee that oversaw the trial concluded that badger

:22:36. > :22:42.culling can make no meaningful contribution to the control of TB

:22:42. > :22:46.in cattle in Britain, end of story. And he is not alone. In the final

:22:46. > :22:50.days before the cull was due to start, some of the country's

:22:50. > :22:55.leading animal disease scientists wrote to the Observer newspaper,

:22:55. > :22:58.publicly condemning the Government's position. 30

:22:58. > :23:05.scientists, experts in the area, have written a letter saying that

:23:05. > :23:09.you have got the policy wrong. What do you say to that? The scientists

:23:09. > :23:13.agree with the results of the trial, which is that if you cull

:23:13. > :23:18.effectively and over a long enough period, you can get a benefit in

:23:19. > :23:25.reducing TB in cattle. Can you give me some names of scientists that

:23:25. > :23:29.back your view? I think that I will not do those scientists the

:23:29. > :23:32.disservice of possibly putting forward their views. They can put

:23:33. > :23:37.forward their own views. We are seeing scientists offering an

:23:37. > :23:42.opinion about whether that is deliverable. When the

:23:42. > :23:48.interpretation of the science is so hotly-contested, cannot be relied

:23:48. > :23:52.upon to justify the cull? -- can it be relied upon? Science has done a

:23:52. > :23:57.lot to tell us about the disease but it cannot give us a definitive

:23:57. > :24:02.answer on whether it you should cull or not. The science suggests

:24:02. > :24:07.that culling of badgers will give a modest decrease in the instances of

:24:07. > :24:11.TB. Whether that is enough to justify the harm that will be done

:24:11. > :24:16.to the badger population cannot be judged by science. It is

:24:16. > :24:22.essentially a political decision. As the cull was about to get under

:24:22. > :24:25.way, the politician in charge did make a decision.

:24:25. > :24:28.Controversial plans to start killing thousands of badgers in

:24:28. > :24:34.England to try to stop the spread of tuberculosis in cattle have been

:24:34. > :24:38.put on hold until at least next year. Today why have received a

:24:38. > :24:43.letter from the President of the NFU, explaining why they do not

:24:43. > :24:49.feel they can go ahead this year. What was it that finally stopped

:24:49. > :24:52.the cull? Ironically the killer blow came not from scientists,

:24:52. > :24:58.public pressure or intimidation, but from inside the Government

:24:58. > :25:05.itself. With just days to go before the cull was due to start, the

:25:05. > :25:09.agency in charge of licensing it discovered a number of -- the

:25:09. > :25:12.number of badgers had been delivered and the underestimated.

:25:12. > :25:15.Results of the survey suggested there were double the number of

:25:15. > :25:21.badgers in the cull zones, meaning twice the work and cost for those

:25:21. > :25:24.involved in killing them. They realised it could not be done.

:25:24. > :25:30.in the day we learned the numbers were double the previous estimates.

:25:30. > :25:34.That put us on the back food. If we got this wrong, because of the time

:25:34. > :25:38.lines and the numbers of badgers involved, we failed to meet the

:25:38. > :25:43.targets, then we would destroy the policy for ever and the issue of TB

:25:43. > :25:49.is far too important for us as an industry to take that risk.

:25:49. > :25:53.many farmers, a year's delay means another year coping with TB. I felt

:25:53. > :26:00.angry, frustrated, incredibly disappointed, bearing in mind that

:26:00. > :26:05.I had just loaded three lorryloads of cattle TB reactors to be

:26:05. > :26:11.slaughtered. I was incredibly disappointed. How confident are you

:26:11. > :26:15.that this is a delay and not a prelude to cancellation? I am very

:26:15. > :26:21.confident that it is just a delay. Can you imagine the Government

:26:21. > :26:26.making a U-turn? Quite! I think it will happen for sure. Farmers'

:26:26. > :26:30.leaders question whether the Government agency that licensed the

:26:30. > :26:34.cull, Natural England, it really supports it. It is so important

:26:34. > :26:37.that Natural England can demonstrate that within that big

:26:37. > :26:47.organisation they are not people that just like the polities so much

:26:47. > :26:48.

:26:48. > :26:52.that they want it to fail. -- there are not people that just dislike

:26:52. > :26:57.the policy so much. Natural England says they are committed to working

:26:57. > :27:04.with Government policy. But we have found people that work to undermine

:27:04. > :27:07.the cull. You did leak people's names? Yes, I passed on any

:27:07. > :27:13.information from any source because it added to the understanding of

:27:13. > :27:16.the big picture. And you are happy with that? I am happy to do

:27:16. > :27:19.something that will stop an activity going on that is going to

:27:19. > :27:25.be a complete disaster for the farming community from so many

:27:26. > :27:31.aspects. Can a those same agencies be trusted to deliver the promised

:27:31. > :27:34.cull? Officially the cull will begin any time from June next year.

:27:34. > :27:40.Whether that actually happens depends on the political will of

:27:40. > :27:43.those inside Westminster. I am completely determined the two

:27:44. > :27:49.pilots will go ahead and that this is the right policy. Would you put

:27:49. > :27:57.your career on it? I am determined. I have been put year by the Prime

:27:57. > :28:01.Minister to help galvanise the rural economy and improve the

:28:01. > :28:06.environment. I cannot think of anything that will improve that

:28:06. > :28:09.industry and the environment better than this. Fighting talk. It will

:28:09. > :28:14.reassure some and horrify others. Am optimistic that it will not go

:28:14. > :28:17.ahead but we have to prepare as if it is. That is how we have always

:28:17. > :28:22.done it, to carry on working as if it is, and that is how we will

:28:22. > :28:25.carry on. It is the badger is causing the disease in my cattle

:28:25. > :28:30.and I'm absolutely sure of that. Less it is sorted out, the

:28:30. > :28:32.situation is hopeless. The Government is hell bent on killing

:28:32. > :28:36.badgers. They just want to kill badgers and we have to make sure

:28:36. > :28:41.they do not make that mistake because it will be a big mistake.

:28:41. > :28:45.If the Government goes ahead, there will be no let-up from protesters.

:28:45. > :28:52.2012 turned out to be a dress rehearsal, and exercise where both

:28:52. > :28:56.sides could sharpen their tactics before the battle next year.

:28:56. > :29:02.Although animals will be in the line of fire, there will be plenty

:29:02. > :29:04.of raw human anguish. Tomorrow night we followed the

:29:04. > :29:10.brain injured patients communicating for the first time